), really. And scandals...While possible, doubt it.No, it isn't - the last Pope to resign was in the 1920s somewhere. It's been a long time, the last two Popes stayed on even when faced with things like Parkinsons and such.
I'm betting the exact opposite. In the Western world, the Pope's power is next to nothing and the Catholic Church is falling apart. In Sub-Sahara Africa, Eastern Asia and Southern America, the Catholic Church is still growing - but there's a lot of call for stricter stances on a lot of moral issues. We'll see....
John Paul II couldn't stand or even move pretty much at the end but still remained pope til they couldn't resurrect him anymore...
https://www.halforums.com/threads/the-pope-resigns.29026/
All German middle class teenagers were forced/coerced into the Hitler Youth.
Oh, well that makes it okay then...
Strange. There were people who resisted joining the Hitler Youth. There were enough that there were camps for them. I'd like to think that the person who leads a religious organization would have the strength of spirit and conviction that they wouldn't have capitulated to save themselves from trouble. Very Christ-like.
So you're judging a 14 year old for having his name put on the role of an organization that forced membership, and then proceeded to not attend the meetings, as if he was a willing member and participant? And that having his name on a list is such a critical moral failing that it should bar him from any promient religious position even 50+ years later?
I agree. I was more talking about losing the jokes when it got all serious-like. I probably would have gone along as well, but then again I am not the one who claims to be speaking for God.
Depending on how much you believe he didn't do it -willinginly-
Well, he wasn't born pope.
They say he deserted, but this was in May of 1945. And he wasn't the only one. By that time, people were leaving in droves. So yet another action based on self-preservation. Seems pretty selfish.[DOUBLEPOST=1360598511][/DOUBLEPOST]
Or if your dad fucked up. Sins of the father and all that.[DOUBLEPOST=1360598619][/DOUBLEPOST]By the way, I could hardly care less. I think the whole Catholic church is messed up beyond belief. So I'm more yanking chains than anything. Take what I say with a grain of salt. Take it from Lot's wife's arm.
Given the lack of any hard evidence I've seen that he did it willingly, and reports from people who knew their family that they were very anti-nazi, I see no reason for anyone who's not irrationally anti-religion/catholic to not believe that.
You're right, the Catholic Church would never cover anything up.
So in lieu of any actual evidence to support your stance, you're basing your opinion on the fact that it's pontentially possible for Catholic Chruch to cover it up? That's tinfoil hat territory, since you can literally support just about any claim about him with that argument.
Which part? the state forcing the 13yo to join or watch his family go to a prison camp?
