Explosion at boston marathon

That I hadn't heard about, but I did hear on Friday or Saturday about a guy who posted to 4chan that he was going on a practice run for a shooting spree and then went and shot up his community college's satellite campus at a strip mall, wounding two women.
My husband showed me an article about that over the weekend including screenshots of the 4chan thread as it evolved. Except I think the guy said it was an experiment.
 
My husband showed me an article about that over the weekend including screenshots of the 4chan thread as it evolved. Except I think the guy said it was an experiment.
Well, hopefully he finds out that the result of that experiment is a very long time in a very miserable jail cell.
 
There's a rumor going around that there was a Facebook page up for this event on Saturday and then taken down today. Anyone know the validity of that?

One would have to be pretty stupid to mark their own terrorist event in advance online.
I heard about that too, but if it was a fairly new facebook page (I think if it has under 100 likes) you are capable of changing the name of the page.

Someone could have easily made a page over the weekend (just by chance, not with this all in mind) and after this event happened, changed the page title to whatever they had it set as once it was discovered.
 
And apparently the twitterverse has taken this blurb by Wolf Blitzer "It is a state holiday in Massachusetts today called Patriots' Day and, uh, who knows if that had anything at all to do with these explosions," to mean that he blames the Tea Party.
This is the kind of vile, political bullshit that's bursting out of every seam of our current political discourse. Glad Wolf Blitzer took time out of his busy schedule to make a thinly-veiled attack against his perceived political opponents---though I wish he would have at least waited for the blood to dry.

If it's home grown terrorism I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. But that's totally and solely my own opinion.
Well apparently not, because Wolf Blitzer apparently shares the opinion.


Sometimes I wonder if leftists/liberals in America hope and pray that every act of violence/terrorism is caused by a white person/christian/right-winger the same way some Republicans hope the same is caused by an Islamist just to justify their own bias/bigotry against the people they hate. My own facebook page is full of teapots calling kettles black.
 
People have preconceived notions, details at 10:00.

Sad this happened. What a bizarre thing to suddenly see after ignoring the news for the day. My sympathies go out to those directly affected by this senseless act of violence.
 
This is the kind of vile, political bullshit that's bursting out of every seam of our current political discourse. Glad Wolf Blitzer took time out of his busy schedule to make a thinly-veiled attack against his perceived political opponents---though I wish he would have at least waited for the blood to dry.



Well apparently not, because Wolf Blitzer apparently shares the opinion.


Sometimes I wonder if leftists/liberals in America hope and pray that every act of violence/terrorism is caused by a white person/christian/right-winger the same way some Republicans hope the same is caused by an Islamist just to justify their own bias/bigotry against the people they hate. My own facebook page is full of teapots calling kettles black.
I'm sorry, but what the fuck are you on about, man? Patriots' Day is the anniversary of the first battle of the revolutionary war. It has extremely little to do with the Boston Tea Party, which happened on December 16th, 1773. The fact that a bunch of people on Twitter jumped all over Blitzer for mentioning the fact that he didn't know if the blasts had anything to do with Patriots' Day because it obviously meant that he was claiming that the Tea Party was behind the bombing today shows how little grasp those people have of history and the real world. If the bombing had happened on July 4th, and Blitzer had said that he didn't know if that date were significant because it was the 4th of July, would that mean he was blaming the Tea Party?
 
I'm sorry, but what the fuck are you on about, man? Patriots' Day is the anniversary of the first battle of the revolutionary war. It has extremely little to do with the Boston Tea Party, which happened on December 16th, 1773. The fact that a bunch of people on Twitter jumped all over Blitzer for mentioning the fact that he didn't know if the blasts had anything to do with Patriots' Day because it obviously meant that he was claiming that the Tea Party was behind the bombing today shows how little grasp those people have of history and the real world. If the bombing had happened on July 4th, and Blitzer had said that he didn't know if that date were significant because it was the 4th of July, would that mean he was blaming the Tea Party?

Wait a second.


*goes back to read Gared's post again*

*and again*

*and one more time*

Ah yes, I see where I misread that. I thought your post meant that Blitzer was implying that it was tea party related, which I took took as an incredibly tasteless comment mere hours after people's limbs were blown off, hence my anger. After reading Dave's post, I assumed I had read correctly.
 
Wait a second.


*goes back to read Gared's post again*

*and again*

*and one more time*

Ah yes, I see where I misread that. I thought your post meant that Blitzer was implying that it was tea party related, which I took took as an incredibly tasteless comment mere hours after people's limbs were blown off, hence my anger. After reading Dave's post, I assumed I had read correctly.
I kinda figured. Sorry for the textual snapping.
 
There's something I'm wondering. Why does it appear so many legs were blasted off? How come there haven't been pictures of severed hands or arms or other body parts? Can bombs be designed to specifically take out legs?
 
There's something I'm wondering. Why does it appear so many legs were blasted off? How come there haven't been pictures of severed hands or arms or other body parts? Can bombs be designed to specifically take out legs?
Yes they can, and what is worse for an athlete?

I sympathize with all the victims and hope that the people responsible are quickly caught and suitably punished.
 
That's just... I don't even...
Given the statements from the doctors who have been pulling the shrapnel out, it's to be expected. If the bomb was, indeed in a backpack as was stipulated earlier, any debris kicked out by it was also be at a backpack level, rapidly accelerated. This shrapnel, be it stones, cans, pieces of metal etc, would be travelling extremely rapidly at approximately knee-level. It might rise a little, depending on proximity to the blasts, but it'd follow a shallow parabola. Leg and lower-torso injuries would be the rule.

And small children.
 
That I hadn't heard about, but I did hear on Friday or Saturday about a guy who posted to 4chan that he was going on a practice run for a shooting spree and then went and shot up his community college's satellite campus at a strip mall, wounding two women.
This happened at New River Valley Mall in Christiansburg, Virginia - the closest mall to Virginia Tech - within a week of the anniversary of the Virginia Tech massacre.
 
Ugh. This is all just sickening and sad.

Sadly I fear this is homegrown terrorism as well, but no matter who it is it's terrible and I hope they are brought to justice before they can do more harm.
 

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Terrik I had the same thought process about how everyone is saying that it looks domestic, except without the leftist/liberal stipulation. I kind of get the feeling everyone, regardless of political slant, doesn't want to get into another war effort.
 
Terrik I had the same thought process about how everyone is saying that it looks domestic, except without the leftist/liberal stipulation. I kind of get the feeling everyone, regardless of political slant, doesn't want to get into another war effort.
I think we can all agree to that.
 
Wait, I haven't read through the whole thread yet but people here aren't saying that anyone who thinks this might be homegrown terrorism is an evil liberal who wants it to just that are they? Because thats just silly.
 

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Wait, I haven't read through the whole thread yet but people here aren't saying that anyone who thinks this might be homegrown terrorism is an evil liberal who wants it to just that are they? Because thats just silly.
No, Wolf Blitzer made a statement that was being spun by the right to be an attack on the Tea Party - which it wasn't. I stated that if it were home-grown, it very well could have been someone from that faction. They are usually the ones who do that kind of stuff. Lefties usually make pamphlets or do sit-ins. It's usually the right that grabs their guns or bombs people. I can't remember the last time there was a leftist attack in the US.
 
huh, no further news? It happened just as I started work, but don't see much new news appearing anywhere since when I left from work and went to sleep....

Anyway, it is another horrible thing to have happen... Hope they catch whoever did it.

Also, I, too, share the opinion that it seems more local than Islamistic (though the two are, of course, not mutually exclusive). If Al Qaeda was involved, it'd have been a different target.
 
No, Wolf Blitzer made a statement that was being spun by the right to be an attack on the Tea Party - which it wasn't. I stated that if it were home-grown, it very well could have been someone from that faction. They are usually the ones who do that kind of stuff. Lefties usually make pamphlets or do sit-ins. It's usually the right that grabs their guns or bombs people. I can't remember the last time there was a leftist attack in the US.
Yeah, who remembers the Weather Underground.

If we include US embassies, then as recently as February 2nd in Turkey there was a suicide bombing by a leftist group.

Generally I agree, though. Leftist protest groups home grown here in the United States are generally non-violent in their protest methods, possibly due to a difference in the way leaders speak.
 
Also this morning, the FBI and other investigative forces say that contrary to yesterday's reports, there were no unexploded devices recovered. Which both makes the job of figuring out who built the bomb more difficult, and makes this somewhat more likely to be just some nutjob with either a grudge or some sick agenda and less likely to be the work of a terror network.
 
When I say that I think a domestic terrorist carried out the attack in Boston, I usually think of some scraggly-bearded psycho in the woods, or a militia/cult that's upset because the government won't let them make meth and have 5 child brides. I don't think conservative or liberal. These people aren't really on the sane spectrum.
 
huh, no further news? It happened just as I started work, but don't see much new news appearing anywhere since when I left from work and went to sleep....

Anyway, it is another horrible thing to have happen... Hope they catch whoever did it.

Also, I, too, share the opinion that it seems more local than Islamistic (though the two are, of course, not mutually exclusive). If Al Qaeda was involved, it'd have been a different target.
And they would have claimed bragging rights.
 
in the US.
Good thing you added that; I was just about to say most non-Al-Qaeda terrorist attacks in Europe over the last 2 decades have come from the left...

We'll see. Whoever is responsible, though, expect further loss of liberty and increased funding and broader powers given to Homeland, FBI, and whatever other agencies see this as an opportunity to grab more power, rather than form a coherent whole.
 
I get angry anytime the news organizations put up title-cards and theme music for the latest tragedy. I feel sorry for the son of a bitch that has to write mourning music for the next tragedy.
 
They've tried a number of phrases, but the one that's seeming to stick is "marathon bombing"

There was a lengthy press conference this morning wherein all the federal, stay and local officials offered a brief on what they know, what they are doing, and what, if anything, they need from the public.

The reports of additional bombs were false. There were only two bombs, and they both exploded. They currently have 12 blocks cordoned off for forensic research, and will shrink that to 0 in the next two days. Nearly every agency that could be involved is involved and is putting nearly their entire force into this task.

Reports of ball bearings appear to be false. Debris recovered from wounds appears to be consistent with debris from typical blasts picked up from the environment.

Agencies are looking for video and photographic evidence of the area prior to the blast. It suggests they are trying to build up a minute by minute timeline, and find out what was present in the area before the blast.
 
If this person was as smart as they seems and knew what he was doing, he remote detonated so video/photographic evidence for the time prior to the blast is going to be useless. The key will be finding out when the devices were planted, and checking those time frames.

Checking for cellphone usage prior might be useless as well if the remote detonation was also home made and didn't involve a cellphone.

I would also imagine all the cracking down on the airport as well as harbor would be useless if they're smart enough not to bother trying to run at this time. I mean, there not going to be any evidence left over since both explosions went off. This person could just take their time and leave the city leisurely by car a couple of days from now.
 
I wish we could get a clear answer on the ball bearings angle. Every time a doctor or hospital rep comes out and says that the reports of ball bearings being packed in the devices was incorrect, the press trots out an "intelligence agent" or "terrorism expert" that's been "briefed on the investigation" who says that there were ball bearings, and now most recently that the devices were made of pressure cookers packed with metal scraps and ball bearings.
 
They are getting these Talking Heads to show up and sprout their bullshit, and the story is changing faster than their "informed opinions."

Really sometimes I think I know more about world terrorism than these blokes that eat up airtime.
 
I wish we could get a clear answer on the ball bearings angle. Every time a doctor or hospital rep comes out and says that the reports of ball bearings being packed in the devices was incorrect, the press trots out an "intelligence agent" or "terrorism expert" that's been "briefed on the investigation" who says that there were ball bearings, and now most recently that the devices were made of pressure cookers packed with metal scraps and ball bearings.
Yeah, the latest reports are third hand. A congressional official, who was briefed by federal authorities, said that at least one bomb, and probably both, was a pressure cooker filled with shrapnel and explosives.

Until that's reported by someone with a title at one of the lead organizations, though, it's not much more than story fodder.

It would make sense, though, if the bomb was in the middle of the pot, and shrapnel packed around it, then the explosion would act in all directions, but the shrapnel would fly out at just above ground level, hitting legs and feet.
 
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