[NHL] Game of Thrones on Ice (aka the NHL Hockey Thread)
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It means something: Shea, Roman, Seth, Alexander, etc. keep people AWAY from their Pekka.[DOUBLEPOST=1423877418,1423877351][/DOUBLEPOST]
You obviously have not been watching games that don't involve Canadian clubs.
And that's why Price is a better goalie this season.
GG on the fanbois on the gratuitous disagrees on this yet provide the reasons why he's better.
I'm not sure you guys understand the concept of disagrees around here.
Price has more saves, more shutouts and most importantly a better save percentage. Since mid-October, that last one is even more ridiculous.
Man, I knew Price had been good for you guys this year, I did not know the extent of how good. That's crazy. 1280 Shots faced and only 86 goals against. Yeesh.
and I'd probably also throw in that the Western Conference is much stiffer competition than the Eastern
What does that have to do with which goalie's been better this year?
Price is putting up better numbers on a worse team. He's been more impressive this year, and it's not even close.
What?! The Preds with their defense would be a playoff team with Bester in net.
Wins are a completely arbitrary number. It depends completely on who's team you're playing for.
Put these goalies in shitholes like Edmonton/Buffalo and that changes. Does that make them bad goalies? Nope, just really unhappy ones.
Playing for teams that score more goals affects this, as you'll get more wins. Preds have 164, Habs have 146. I'm sure those 18 goals make a difference.
Since Oct. 17 :
Rinne: 29-7-1, 2.07 GAA, .929 SV%, 2 SO
Price: 27-10-2, 1.84 GAA, .938 SV%, 4 SO
These numbers don't lie. Both are great goalies but Price is simply playing better this season.
The fact that Rinne got hurt doesn't matter, since you know, Price played similar number of games (2 more at the time of that statline). But it'll affect his Vezina chances at the end of the season baring any issues with Price's performance.
The fact that the Habs haven't won a cup in 20 something year, has, well... fuck all to do with the topic on hand. But since we're bringing irrelevant things on the table, did you know that Nashville Preds have a cat like creature logo on their jerseys?
#TheMoreYouKnow[DOUBLEPOST=1423970857,1423970551][/DOUBLEPOST]
Irrelevant to the conversation.
That myth is always in play, since the lock-out, West is 5-4 vs the East.[DOUBLEPOST=1423971390][/DOUBLEPOST]
Did he score those 20 extra goals?
Also, the defense differences are pretty staggering
4 guys with +10 or better? Habs best is ALEXEI EMELIN??
LOL
I'm sorry, I can't quite hear you all the way up here at the top of the standings...
[DOUBLEPOST=1423972093,1423971903][/DOUBLEPOST]Carter Hutton (5-4-4) is proof: without Pekka Rinne, the Nashville Predators are simply playoff contenders. With him, they are going after the Governor's trophy. That's a swing of about 18-20 points.
[DOUBLEPOST=1423972093,1423971903][/DOUBLEPOST]Carter Hutton (5-4-4) is proof: without Pekka Rinne, the Nashville Predators are simply playoff contenders. With him, they are going after the Governor's trophy. That's a swing of about 18-20 points.Carter Hutton
5-4-4 (13 games)
.905 save %
2.65 GAA
357 shots (27 shots a game)
Tokarski
5-4-2 (11 games)
.914 save %
2.67 GAA
359 shots (33 shots a game)
Kind of comparable, except for the fact Toks has more shots taken on him than Hutton does with 2 games played less.
Better D. No surprise there.
Though your backup goalie is ass.
Still get 6 shots less a game. That's close to 0.5 less goals a game for a goalie doing .915 (league average).
5-4-4 (13 games)
.905 save %
2.65 GAA
357 shots (27 shots a game)
Tokarski
5-4-2 (11 games)
.914 save %
2.67 GAA
359 shots (33 shots a game)
Kind of comparable, except for the fact Toks has more shots taken on him than Hutton does with 2 games played less.
Better D. No surprise there.
Though your backup goalie is ass.
Still get 6 shots less a game. That's close to 0.5 less goals a game for a goalie doing .915 (league average).
So your argument is that because your starter is better than your backup, Rinne is better than Price?
Stop making sense, yo.
# of wins isn't that important of a stat to win the Vezina. The truth is the fact that the Habs are bottom 10 (#21) in scoring and Nashville is top 10 (#6). Habs are likely not going to win if Price lets in more than 2 goals. This isn't the case with the Preds. The Preds also possibly have 2 Norris finalists as well as the Calder winner as well.
Imagine if the Habs had Weber?
You kinda have him, except you call him "P.K. Subban" and for some unknown reason he has a Norris Trophy while the real one doesn't.
Not that Subban has done anything to deserve a Norris Trophy this year, mind you.
The real test will be playoff time. If Price leads les Habitants to the Cup, I shall eat my words.
If Pekka does...
I probably won't be posting for a while, because I'll be floating somewhere over 5th and Broadway out of pure elation.
Not that Subban has done anything to deserve a Norris Trophy this year, mind you.
The real test will be playoff time. If Price leads les Habitants to the Cup, I shall eat my words.
If Pekka does...
I probably won't be posting for a while, because I'll be floating somewhere over 5th and Broadway out of pure elation.
I have to assume this is just some knee-jerk defensiveness coming from how often Nashville was targeted for relocation rumours - no other reason the arguments would keep coming back to the Habs' history and Nashville's record this year instead of any factual analysis of the goalies' performances.
looks like we'll have to settle this the old-fashioned way: In the Stanley Cup Finals, if your chump Canuck squad can make it.
Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced Sunday that the team has acquired defenceman Cody Franson and forward Mike Santorelli from the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Nashville’s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.
I've done a little gander at some of them, but not much digging to see if there's anything comparable to WAR. A lot of people went nuts over the "Corsi number", but I slightly think it's more helpful to line performance more than individuals.
Also, I fully approve of that Preds trade.
Steve Montador dead at 35.
Apparently, he had a lot of concussions and suffered from depression. I hope its not related.
Apparently, he had a lot of concussions and suffered from depression. I hope its not related.