[Gaming] Overwatch (#boycottblizz)

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

GasBandit said:
I wish we had numbers on things like damage per shot and rate of fire.
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My brother loves to do the math on this stuff, at one point he had a spreadsheet with rate of fire, damage per shot and other stuff all laid out. Unfortunately it was maybe a month or so after release, so I don't know if any of it is still accurate.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

The wiki over here is usually good about that sort of thing, but last time I checked they didn't have any Sombra data yet.
Oh hey, now they do. Guess someone else already did the legwork.

--Patrick
 
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GasBandit

GasBandit

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So, Sombra does 8 damage per hit at 20 rps, 60 round clip, which gives her much similar burst damage than S76's current 17 (becoming 20) damage at 10 rps with a 25 round clip, but lower sustained damage, and will have a harder time chewing through armor than 76 and especially McCree.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

GasBandit said:
So, Sombra does 8 damage per hit at 20 rps, 60 round clip, which gives her much similar burst damage than S76's current 17 (becoming 20) damage at 10 rps with a 25 round clip, but lower sustained damage, and will have a harder time chewing through armor than 76 and especially McCree.
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And her spread is almost as quick as Widow's, so precision headshots and/or reliable mid- to long-range damage will be difficult.
So she's closer to Tracer/Reaper, I guess.
EDIT: Oh, man. I didn't realize that any health packs she hacks will not only be blue team-only, they'll also respawn 3x faster.

--Patrick
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

PatrThom said:
EDIT: Oh, man. I didn't realize that any health packs she hacks will not only be blue team-only, they'll also respawn 3x faster.
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The health pack thing is actually her best asset. All the other stuff is good, but she has no burst offense, and her hack can be easy to counter by most hitscan classes, but when she hacks a health back it basically gives the area complete control to your team. It will be huge is defense maps for blocking off flanker health packs, which they often rely on to keep up pressure on the back line. You can't even counter hack as Sombra, so once you have the pad, it's yours for that whole minute.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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CynicismKills said:
That video is just the best thing.

Thanks Torbuyorn!

IT'S TORBJORN
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Ha ha ha, that was great, and then.
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Holy crap. Didn't even need a voice modulator.
 
Terrik

Terrik

GasBandit said:
Muselk seems to think Sombra is gamebreaking.

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I really don't see how. The invisibility is broken by damage, can be seen by enemies if too close and is short in duration.

The smg is useful mostly at close range and does a little more than tracer.

The teleport is nice though. She brings more ultility than damage which means a team running her will do less damage with the offset that she can temporarily disable abilites of important targets (i m thinking like hacking that mercy befor she rezzes....mmmm)

Now, this is only my own experience on ptr and playing her myself, but I've yet to have a difficult time dealing with her, so I dunno.
 
Dei

Dei

She's more annoying than anything. Her hack is basically a less effective Mei freeze, since you can still shoot her in the face if she hacks you. If used correctly it can have a huge impact, but she isn't just running around hacking and killing everyone.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Terrik said:
I really don't see how. The invisibility is broken by damage, can be seen by enemies if too close and is short in duration.

The smg is useful mostly at close range and does a little more than tracer.

The teleport is nice though. She brings more ultility than damage which means a team running her will do less damage with the offset that she can temporarily disable abilites of important targets (i m thinking like hacking that mercy befor she rezzes....mmmm)

Now, this is only my own experience on ptr and playing her myself, but I've yet to have a difficult time dealing with her, so I dunno.
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Well, according to his video, he says the health pack hack lasts too long. 60 seconds (and it can't be counterhacked) means that you can basically constantly lock down all the large health packs that are pertinent to the current location of the fight, and just dancing on the pack which then respawns every 2 seconds is basically better than a pocket mercy. So, either the duration of the health kit hack needs to be reduced (he suggests 30 seconds), or susceptible to counterhack, or slow the pack respawn, or some combination thereof.

The teleporter is too often a get-out-of-jail-free card, usually placed on a hacked health pack. IMO, her translocator needs to be instant use when thrown, not on a 15 second delay. That way, it is still a mobility feature without being a free escape.

Also, her stealth breaking on damage isn't much of a downside, as he clearly demonstrates its utility in the video to sneak up right behind the enemy's rear and MP them down in the head instantly.
 
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GasBandit

GasBandit

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Speaking of Genji players, last night was the worst night ever.

Terrik, Snuffles and I got put in a match with this guy named polliwog (lower case), but the other team has this Genji (named, BestGenji, "hilariously" enough) who is just completely carrying the entire team. Massacring us. So polliwog switches from Reaper to Winston (after their reaper kills both him and myself on Lucio when we tried to double team) to counter the Genji.

And then he completely fails to counter the Genji. But he sure likes to jump in and tickle their entire team for a couple points of damage with his electro gun, so that any kill that happens he gets an elimination credit for.

As the match progresses and we continue to get stomped. The shitstain polliwog is absolutely failing to do anything about Genji, so while the rest of us are trying our best to make up for him, their Reaper is just having a field day - dropping on us and using his ult from behind and above and whatever. All the while polliwog is getting louder and saltier in team chat, and then starts trash talking us in open match chat so the other team can read it.

Granted, one of the other randos going Symmetra at the start (and sucking at it) and then switching to Junkrat, leaving my Lucio the sole healer for the entire match, didn't help.

But instead of getting salty at Symmet-rat, he starts yelling at Snuffles and Terrik.

Who have silver and gold damage, respectively.

So all three of us tell him to shut the fuck up because he's useless.

We lose the match spectacularly. Pause a few moments to open lootboxes, and requeue.

Next match, polliwog AND BestGenji are on the other team.

polliwog goes Mercy (why he couldn't go support when he was on OUR team I fail to understand) and just sits in the back while BestGenji chews us to pieces. And polliwog continues to taunt us all in match chat, as if he had anything to do with what was going on.

It was super frustrating. I can only hope Karma is a real thing and his dick rots off.
 
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