[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond
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Apparently Alfred Molina's returning to Spider-Man 3 as Doc Ock.
While I do think Alfred Molina is a strong actor, and his take on Doc Ock was pretty good, I'm wondering if we're starting to get overloaded on returning cast members.
While I do think Alfred Molina is a strong actor, and his take on Doc Ock was pretty good, I'm wondering if we're starting to get overloaded on returning cast members.
While it seems very likely at this point that we are going to see all three Spider-Man movie universes collide in a multi-verse event, I imagine that many of the returning villains are going to have no more than brief cameos.
I am doubtful... but I'm crossing my fingers that you're right because that would be a spectacular way to end the Tom Holland films.
While I think this is a fun idea, I'm concerned that the MCU is becoming more and more like the comics the movies are based on. If you haven't been following along for 30 years, you're going to be lost. My wife stopped watching them at some point with us, and completely disliked Infinity War as a result. Fortunately, much like comics, there's the old "Well this isn't for you then" argument.
Of course look how well that's worked for DC and Marvel comics.
Of course look how well that's worked for DC and Marvel comics.
Eh, I understand your concern. But I have a friend who didn’t watch ANY of the MCU movies, went to see Infinity War with her daughter in theaters, and still loved it. She did eventually go back and watch them all over this past summer, but she enjoyed Infinity War enough without knowing backstories. I think you would be surprised how well they have made it so people can jump into most of their properties without seeing previous work and still get enough to enjoy the story.
Also it sounds like she already lost interest in the MCU if she stopped watching the films at a certain point. Showing her another film, regardless of order, probably isn’t going to get her back into it.
THIS has me more excited than any of the other announced appearances (not counting JK Simmons, since that was already from Far From Home).
Eh, it's a rumor coming from a newer site called "Murphy's Multiverse" that claims to have an anonymous source. I'm not saying it's fake, but we should definitely wait to see something more solid for confirmation before celebrating.
I don't know if it's "this isn't for you" so much as the issue with long-running franchises: some people are always going to be into it, and some people just don't have the same strong feelings for it as time rolls on. The same thing happens with Star Trek, Star Wars, James Bond, Dr. Who, soap operas, etc. Tastes change, and you can't please all the people all the time.
I agree it's not for everybody, but have you ever tried to read a random comic about superheroes? Unless it's a little contained story, it's kind of impossible to get into. There's too much history, backstories, trying to figure out which retcon this is...it's nigh impenetrable. It'll just be a bummer if people stop watching them because they skipped a few and don't know what's going on.
Also, sorry. I try not to use words like 'impenetrable' when talking to a lady.
I think that's a valid concern, but it would also be a balancing force. If Disney/WB don't watch out for this and turn off audiences, so be it. It'll be their fault and they will suffer the financial consequences. It would make sure the whole genre and industry doesn't get too far up its own ass with continuity/expanded universe stuff.
One bright side though is that as long as they try to keep it one big story, it's going to make it harder to do the inevitable reboots. Of course that might be exactly what the new Doctor Strange and Spider-Man movies are setting up for, so I guess we'll see. Either way, I'm going to keep throwing my money at them.
I just want to point out that as a kid I loved comics but only read them sporadically. This meant that sometimes things or characters would be referenced that I just didn't know, and I was perfectly ok with that. Not everything has to be clearly explained, you don't even need to know the backstory of every character. Who is this guy? Oh, he shoots fire from his eyes? Good enough for me
Sure... It's all about how and what and where.
GOOD: I didn't even realize the Oliphant character in the Mandalorian was a character from another show. he was introduced, did his thing, left (I guess he'll show up again, I've only seen 3 episodes of this season).
BAD: NCIS episode 127 starts a story....and it ends in NCIS LA episode 84. Yeah, good luck with that, but those won't be showing alongside each other on subsequent replays, they won't be on the same DVD box, etc etc. I'll never know how it ends (or how it began).
I like big interconnected universes, sure, and if it's done properly, it can really create a whole world. Even if not all rules are always completely consistent, it can work. Potterworld works despite BS being pulled out of the author's ass every other book/movie. The MCU mostly works. Star Wars and Trek...kinda work, depending on your view on things. Many other interconnected crap doesn't work, because they try to force you to read/watch/buy other pieces.
Every MCU movie can be watched "on its own", with perhaps Endgame as the exception - you'll miss stuff and some references might be incomprehensible, but sure. Watch Agents of SHIELD, and....well, you better wear a harness, because the whiplash from the events from some of the movies really change the whole show around without so much as a "Meanwhile" or "elsewhere" or whatever intro video to explain what happened.
This reminds me of a story.
Back when I was in middle school, I joined an after-school comic book club, even though I didn't really know much about comic books or comic book culture. I just basically liked reading comic strips, so I joined up. The club was led by a young PE teacher, and there were only like four members, and we'd talk about comics and sometimes do some drawing. At the end of the semester, the teacher said he had a present for us, and gave each of us a signed and sealed copy of Prophet #6 from Image Comics. I don't remember who it was signed by, possibly the writer or artist, but I remember the other members of the club basically squealing with glee at this gift.
Me, being a complete dumbass, immediately opened up the comic to read it. I still remember the exclamations of sheer horror from the other club members and the teacher.
The point is, though, that because this was #6 in the series, I was completely lost plot-wise. There was some interesting action, there was an implausibly thin lady dressed in a business suit (hmm, now that I think about it, maybe it'd been signed by Liefeld), and there were some mentions of certain other characters I'm sure a bigger fan would know. But I didn't know them, so all I could do was look at the pretty pictures.
Also I don't have this comic any more, it was lost during one of my many moves.
Jon Watts, director of Homecoming and Far From Home, will be directing the Fantastic Four film.
Let's do it properly this time, shall we?
Let's do it properly this time, shall we?
Holy crap. I thought there was too much to keep track of before all this. What, 20 new series? I'm not even going to try to keep up, and I technically kinda want to. It's just too much too fast.
I understand half of these will probably be aimed at kids, and some won't be really connected, and there'll be some comedy and some action and some more procedural, and whatever, but... I just don't have the time.
I understand half of these will probably be aimed at kids, and some won't be really connected, and there'll be some comedy and some action and some more procedural, and whatever, but... I just don't have the time.
One of the biggest complaints about the launch of Disney+ was that it didn't have enough original programming. Now, if they release it all at once, that's really too much. But if they do them as limited series over time, kinda like the Netflix shows? I don't think it's that's bad, for me, at least. The nice thing about this model, compared to the old way of watching tv, is you don't have to be in front of the tv at a set time. Watch 'em when you want, if you want.
Also, I must add, PEGGGGGGGGGGYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave
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I had the entire run of What If comics when I was a kid. Well, the first series at least. The last one came out in 1984 when I was a senior in high school. Then I went into the military and my mom sold them all on a garage sale.
We sold a Kodak-branded Lionel train set at a garage sale for I think $35 because it was missing one piece of track. I didn't know anything about things being "collectibles" at the time. I still think about it.
--Patrick
Dave
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Well, my comic collection had a LOT of very nice comics in them. Nova #1, the entire Star Wars original comic series, some early Spider-mans. A few weird ones that I found on sales like "Falling in Love" #1 & "Superman's Girlfriend, Lois Lane" #1. All in mint condition. There were a lot of others.
When I got stationed in California she had a garage sale. Sold them 3 for $.25. Taken out of their sleeves, rolled up, & bound with a rubber band.
When I got stationed in California she had a garage sale. Sold them 3 for $.25. Taken out of their sleeves, rolled up, & bound with a rubber band.
Black Panther's Ryan Coogler Is Developing a Wakanda Show for Disney+
The show is part of a new five-year television deal the writer-director signed with Disney for his production company, Proximity Media.
Nothing is known about the show except that it’s set in “the Kingdom of Wakanda.”
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The show is part of a new five-year television deal the writer-director signed with Disney for his production company, Proximity Media.
Nothing is known about the show except that it’s set in “the Kingdom of Wakanda.”
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They have confirmed that T'challa will never be recast.