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Chibibar

Niac's cold ray? That spell is pretty good. Remember that some mobs have reflex save and "jump around" a lot so you have to cast against stationary mobs.

How to make them stationary? Hypnotism or have a cleric cast command.
 
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I played a long time last night. I've pretty much decided that I hate the advice channel, for reasons stated above. People think there's only one right way to play the game. But not as much as I hate the general chat. It makes Barrens chat look interesting. Yesterday, it devolved into antisemitism, yet I couldn't stop watching. It was like a car crash.

Also, admitted stupid question...what's the equivalent to THAC0 in 3rd edition? I mean, presumably there's some mechanism for melee characters to hit more often than non-melee, right?

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Ah, I found it. It's the "BAB", which is apparently just 20-THAC0.
 
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Kitty Sinatra

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[/COLOR]Ah, I found it. It's the "BAB", which is apparently just 20-THAC0.
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Yeah, the "Base Attack Bonus" is simply a bonus that you apply - along with all the other bonuses/penalties from Strength or Dexterity, magic weapons and miscellaneous other sources like feats and spells - to your d20 attack roll. If that attack roll equals or exceeds the target's AC, you hit.

Your AC is equal to 10 plus all the bonuses/penalties from armor, Dexterity and various other sources. (Plate mail, for example, provides a +8 bonus to AC while leather provides +2; Goddamn Armor was annoying when a lower value represented better protection)

Anyway, the BAB of the fighter and various primary combat classes equals the class level. The BAB of the wizard and similar classes equal to half the class level. For clerics, rogues and various others, the BAB is equal to 3/4 or 2/3 the level, I can't quite recall and don't feel like doing the math on that.
 
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damn that was some pretty basic Math I didn't bother with. I should probably go sit in a corner with my dunce cap.
 
Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.
 
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Tinwhistler said:
I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.
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So 1/2 of us jumped to the other server and the active 1/2 didn't?

*le sigh*
 
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I'm 3rd level thief and last night I did the kobold attack solo. That meant that I had to take on 200 kobolds. Took me a while and I ran a lot but I made it.
 
Jay

Jay

Dave;263826][quote=Tinwhistler said:
I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.
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So 1/2 of us jumped to the other server and the active 1/2 didn't?

*le sigh*[/QUOTE]

Yep, curses to the person who suggested the new server. Seriously.

Honestly, this was to be expected the moment a select few decided to play on another server and advertised their poor decision and pulled a few more away. This wasn't going to work people! The original server chosen was Sarlona. It plays well, there's no lag, no server instability, grouping is solid and overall been decent going. Another server really wasn't needed. What this did was basically destroy the main reason why we were deciding to play together, on the same server and group. It was easy to see that several people weren't willing to start all over and redo the same noobie quests.

le sigh
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

SeriousJay;263853][quote=Dave;263826][quote=Tinwhistler said:
I haven't seen you, but if I've been on when you've been on, I'm sorry.

I've been Playing in sarlona, mostly hooking up with Ashburner and Estryu, so we probably haven't run across each other.
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So 1/2 of us jumped to the other server and the active 1/2 didn't?

*le sigh*[/QUOTE]

Yep, curses to the person who suggested the new server. Seriously.

Honestly, this was to be expected the moment a select few decided to play on another server and advertised their poor decision and pulled a few more away. This wasn't going to work people! The original server chosen was Sarlona. It plays well, there's no lag, no server instability, grouping is solid and overall been decent going. Another server really wasn't needed. What this did was basically destroy the main reason why we were deciding to play together, on the same server and group. It was easy to see that several people weren't willing to start all over and redo the same noobie quests.

le sigh[/QUOTE]

Cannith does seem to have a much better economy at least. Prices aren't nearly as ridiculous as they are on Sarlona.
 
Jay

Jay

Doesn't mean much to most players who just want to play with friends. How people can screw up on which server to choose after the first batch of people have started playing on is pretty astounding to say the least.

Oh well.
 
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I went to Sarlona a good while after this thread had been created, and played there for days, rarely seeing anyone online in the guild. The reason I went to Cannith was because people in that version of the guild actually seemed to be present and playing. So, I don't think it was "screwing up".

(Though there's hardly anyone there anymore either.)
 
ZenMonkey

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SeriousJay said:
This wasn't going to work people! The original server chosen was Sarlona.
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Previous post can be summed up as "Why didn't anyone stay at MY party? :waah:"

Get over it, Jay. This wasn't going to work because a) Halforum MMO guilds never work, and b) people understandably wanted to go to a server where there were people with resources who could help out.
 
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Jay

I don't recall throwing any parties. I just recall another epic failure.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, someone had to say it. People sucked and the point of playing this failed. *tears here*

BLNT
 
Siska

Siska

About DDO points... Is there some repeatable quest where you can earn that? When I rerolled my character I noticed I would not gain points for my reputation until I passed my deleted character. And can't get any rep beyond elite, on the harbor quests atleast.
 
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Siska said:
About DDO points... Is there some repeatable quest where you can earn that? When I rerolled my character I noticed I would not gain points for my reputation until I passed my deleted character. And can't get any rep beyond elite, on the harbor quests atleast.
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It's entirely tied to Rep, but if you do it on different SERVERS, you can get more points for early stuff. I know I had 100 points before I went to Cannith and by the time I was the same level as I was on Sarlona, I had another 125 points.
 
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Last night (on Sarlona, partly because I wanted to keep my two on Cannith) I re-rolled my Bard. I was able to level him pretty quickly now that I have experience. I took a second level in fighter. The bard was already a decent melee fighter, but that pushed him just enough that he ate through the Korthos Island monsters like burger meat. Combined with the bard buffs and my favorite "Charm Person" spell, it was a snap compared to the pure bard. I just wish I knew where to find a quick greatsword (and longbow?). The armor proficiency is kind of a waste thanks to the huge spell failure, but the rest was worth it.

Yeah, I know---no bard capstone (whatever that means), and apparently I automatically lose some of the bard benefits (according to the advice channel). But I've got this funny feeling I'll never make it to 20. Never made it to 50 on CoH or 80 on WoW before getting bored.
 
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If your not one already, I recommend you switch to an Elf for your Bard/Fighter build. You can take a racial enhancement that will reduce your Spell Chance Failure in armor by 5-10%, meaning you can wear some armors without a spell chance failure (Padded and maybe some Mithril Armors). As for Greatswords and Longbows, you'll start finding those occasionally in the Harbor. I don't even think they spawn as random treasures in Korthos.
 
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Chibibar

on point system.

you get 25 points per 100 favors.
you can usually get around 400 favor by level 7-8. So unless you really push favor, you won't see more than 100 point gain PER server (I think it is per character, but I think it is 1st character on that server)

most you can get is 2250 favor which is a long way to get (takes about a year or so) since you need to get elite in almost ALL the quests.

1750 favor unlock 32 point build. that alone will take a and around leevl 20 now (you can do it at 16 but that is elite in ALL quests)

We do play a lot on Cannith. Two of my friends log on a lot we have multiple alts. If the halforums are not going to play as much except for like 3-4 we can absorb you into our guild (Wandering Blades) which has around 5 active players (all real life friends) which we play weekends and and evenings.

Allithia (John) is willing to run anyone in the guild for anything. He doesn't like to give spoilers so don't expect him to tell you all the traps on normal ;) he believes in actually experiencing it yourself.

Free play is limited and thus exclude from many of the "fast exp" instance run like Tangleroot, Delaras, STK, and Catacombs.
 
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Well, as a bard, there's no penalty for light armor already. It's the medium and heavy stuff.
 
Siska

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Chibibar said:
on point system.

you get 25 points per 100 favors.
you can usually get around 400 favor by level 7-8. So unless you really push favor, you won't see more than 100 point gain PER server (I think it is per character, but I think it is 1st character on that server)

most you can get is 2250 favor which is a long way to get (takes about a year or so) since you need to get elite in almost ALL the quests.

1750 favor unlock 32 point build. that alone will take a and around leevl 20 now (you can do it at 16 but that is elite in ALL quests)
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Ok, I think I got the points figured out. There are some once per server points you can get. 3 or 4 milestones, between 5 and 50 favor that will give you 25 points each. Making one character on each server and getting them up to 50 favor, is a quick, non repetable way to earn a few hundred free points. After that you get 25 free points on every character for every 100 favor milestone. It's slow, think I was about level 6 when I finally hit 200 favor. Those slow points you can earn indefinatly. Since you get them on every character you make.
 
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Chibibar

Siska;269905][quote=Chibibar said:
on point system.

you get 25 points per 100 favors.
you can usually get around 400 favor by level 7-8. So unless you really push favor, you won't see more than 100 point gain PER server (I think it is per character, but I think it is 1st character on that server)

most you can get is 2250 favor which is a long way to get (takes about a year or so) since you need to get elite in almost ALL the quests.

1750 favor unlock 32 point build. that alone will take a and around leevl 20 now (you can do it at 16 but that is elite in ALL quests)
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Ok, I think I got the points figured out. There are some once per server points you can get. 3 or 4 milestones, between 5 and 50 favor that will give you 25 points each. Making one character on each server and getting them up to 50 favor, is a quick, non repetable way to earn a few hundred free points. After that you get 25 free points on every character for every 100 favor milestone. It's slow, think I was about level 6 when I finally hit 200 favor. Those slow points you can earn indefinatly. Since you get them on every character you make.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much.

It is pretty slow after 400. You can get around 400 favor by level 7-8 (which unlock drow for that server) and that equals to 100 Turbine points. (25 per 100) after that it is REALLY slow

Consider the cost of most of the adventure pack, it will take a while to get a lot of characters and "grind" points, but it is doable but with only 2 character slots (4 with premium if you buy some points or go VIP for 1 month) you can get 4 slots. That is a lot of deletions.
 
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Chibibar

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Do drow have the XP penalty they do in the real game?
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Nope. There is no xp penalty. They actually have several benefits like Spell Resistance and stuff like that.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Image:Drow_male.jpg

The difference between races are the starting stats (positive and negative) like Drow starts with -2 Con (so it starts at a 6 instead of normal 8)

Drow is essentially a 32 point build since they do have extra +2 dex, int and cha. They make great Pally, Rogue, Wizard, Sorcerer, Favored Soul or any other class. The downside is that the con is a little low so you would need to pump that up.
 
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