Now they're making armour for themselves...

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Oh well, i for one welcome our soon to be new octopi overlords:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8408233.stm

Link has video.

Octopus snatches coconut and runs
An octopus and its coconut-carrying antics have surprised scientists.
Underwater footage reveals that the creatures scoop up halved coconut shells before scampering away with them so they can later use them as shelters.
Writing in the journal Current Biology, the team says it is the first example of tool use in octopuses.
One of the researchers, Dr Julian Finn from Australia's Museum Victoria, told BBC News: \"I almost drowned laughing when I saw this the first time.\"
He added: \"I could tell it was going to do something, but I didn't expect this - I didn't expect it would pick up the shell and run away with it.\"
Quick getaway
The veined octopuses (Amphioctopus marginatus) were filmed between 1999 and 2008 off the coasts of Northern Sulawesi and Bali in Indonesia. The bizarre behaviour was spotted on four occasions.
The octopuses use the coconuts as a shelter

The eight-armed beasts used halved coconuts that had been discarded by humans and had eventually settled in the ocean.
Dr Mark Norman, head of science at Museum Victoria, Melbourne, and one of the authors of the paper, said: \"It is amazing watching them excavate one of these shells. They probe their arms down to loosen the mud, then they rotate them out.\"
After turning the shells so the open side faces upwards, the octopuses blow jets of mud out of the bowl before extending their arms around the shell - or if they have two halves, stacking them first, one inside the other - before stiffening their legs and tip-toeing away.
Dr Norman said: \"I think it is amazing that those arms of pure muscle get turned into rigid rods so that they can run along a bit like a high-speed spider.
\"It comes down to amazing dexterity and co-ordination of eight arms and several hundred suckers.\"
Home, sweet home
The octopuses were filmed moving up to 20m with the shells.
And their awkward gait, which the scientists describe as \"stilt-walking\", is surprisingly speedy, possibly because the creatures are left vulnerable to attack from predators while they scuttle away with their prized coconuts.
The veined octopus is a meaty feast for predators

The octopuses eventually use the shells as a protective shelter. If they just have one half, they simply turn it over and hide underneath. But if they are lucky enough to have retrieved two halves, they assemble them back into the original closed coconut form and sneak inside.
The shells provide important protection for the octopuses in a patch of seabed where there are few places to hide.
Dr Norman explained: \"This is an incredibly dangerous habitat for these animals - soft sediment and mud couldn't be worse.
\"If they are buried loose in mud without a shell, any predator coming along can just scoop them up. And they are pure rump steak, a terrific meat supply for any predator.\"
The researchers think that the creatures would initially have used large bivalve shells as their haven, but later swapped to coconuts after our insatiable appetite for them meant their discarded shells became a regular feature on the sea bed.
Surprisingly smart
Tool use was once thought to be an exclusively human skill, but this behaviour has now been observed in a growing list of primates, mammals and birds.
They do things which, normally, you'd only expect vertebrates to do



Tom Tregenza, University of Exeter

The researchers say their study suggests that these coconut-grabbing octopuses should now be added to these ranks.
Professor Tom Tregenza, an evolutionary ecologist from the University of Exeter, UK, and another author of the paper, said: \"A tool is something an animal carries around and then uses on a particular occasion for a particular purpose.
\"While the octopus carries the coconut around there is no use to it - no more use than an umbrella is to you when you have it folded up and you are carrying it about. The umbrella only becomes useful when you lift it above your head and open it up.
\"And just in the same way, the coconut becomes useful to this octopus when it stops and turns it the other way up and climbs inside it.\"
He added that octopuses already have a reputation for being an intelligent invertebrate.
He explained: \"They've been shown to be able to solve simple puzzles, there is the mimic octopus, which has a range of different species that it can mimic, and now there is this tool use.
\"They do things which, normally, you'd only expect vertebrates to do.\"
 
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Deschain

Soon they'll use the pots and bowls that we dump aside. One day we shall be greeted by octopi knights riding dolphin steeds.
 
It's almost as though Earth forces all life to evolve it's own aspects of intelligence. Or perhaps animals are relying on their intellectual capacity because it's now needed to compete with us.
 
You guys are crazy... this is an obvious sign that R'lyeh is finally rising. They're just getting ready for when Cthulhu wakes up and eats us...
 
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Kitty Sinatra

I'm impressed that they're stacking the coconut halves to carry them away. That's pretty damn clever.
 
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Gill Kaiser

It's almost as though Earth forces all life to evolve it's own aspects of intelligence. Or perhaps animals are relying on their intellectual capacity because it's now needed to compete with us.
I think they've been that intelligent for millennia; we just happen to be realising it now.
 
If they find all the unexploded ordinance from WWI and II lying around the ocean floor, cruise vacations are fucked.

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You guys are crazy... this is an obvious sign that R'lyeh is finally rising. They're just getting ready for when Cthulhu wakes up and eats us...
 
Muscle heads? Hate 'em!

Also these dudes are smart as hell. There's a report of one octopus squirting ink at a light that was shining into its aquarium that had been bothering it. Another crawled out of its area to a valve and was able to turn it, releasing gallons of water.
 

fade

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Yeah, I've read for years about the intelligence of octopi. There was one particular experiment where the octopus was smart enough to figure out that his food was in an adjacent tank, climb up over the wall of the tank, and into the next to get it.
 
Not to mention the Denver aquarium incident. They kept having a light blow out that would cause a short that would kill the filters on their tanks. So they had several employees stay overnight and watch the light to find out what happened. Turned out it was directly over an octopus tank and he didn't like the light (being nocturnal) so he would shoot water at it and if the light was hot enough it would blow up (causing the aforementioned short).

They are on my short list for "species that will take over after we are gone".
 

doomdragon6

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Shego's octo-post totally has the octopus creature looking at Sheg's avatar in an "I'm about to rape you" kind of way.

And the avatar is actually responding appropriately.
 
Not to mention the Denver aquarium incident. They kept having a light blow out that would cause a short that would kill the filters on their tanks. So they had several employees stay overnight and watch the light to find out what happened. Turned out it was directly over an octopus tank and he didn't like the light (being nocturnal) so he would shoot water at it and if the light was hot enough it would blow up (causing the aforementioned short).

They are on my short list for "species that will take over after we are gone".
Yeah, this is the one I was talking about, I had heard it was ink, but still. That's crazy.
 
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