So there's this Occupy Wall Street protest in Manhattan today

Hey, here's a great idea. Use your kids to blockade buildings...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/d-c...-shields-to-blockade-door-in-violent-scuffle/

*sigh*
Sounds like child abuse to me. Can you imagine what the children are experiencing?

Question authority. Teach your kids to question authority.

But the second - the very instant - you use your child as a shield, weapon, or bargaining chip in any conflict you lose. Whether you're using them to get back at your ex, arming them in africa and having them fight your turf wars, using them to ferry your drugs back and forth, selling them to strangers by the hour, or using them to shield you from the police doesn't matter - you can no longer be counted as their guardian. If they are no more than property to you, weapons, shields, etc, then you shouldn't be the one to raise them.
 
I'd love to see you say that after someone breaks into your house, or robs you at knife point, or smashes into your car and drives off.
Well, AFTER any of that has happened, all they're really good for is a report to file for insurance purposes.
 
If trolling is having an opinion different from the norm here, then yes, I am trolling. I'm not pretending though just to get a rise out of you. I honestly don't like or trust the police.
 
Police stole my truck. True story (those of you who haven't put two and two together by now have just been given a huge clue).
That issue goes unresolved. But I have personally known law enforcement professionals who do truly treat their profession as a duty and take great pride, but unfortunately I have known many who are also on a "I have a badge" power trip.
 
If trolling is having an opinion different from the norm here, then yes, I am trolling. I'm not pretending though just to get a rise out of you. I honestly don't like or trust the police.
Out of curiosity is this due to personal interactions with the police, or from the first-hand experiences of others close to you, or from stories, articles, and news from third party sources? If it's the first two, what experiences have soured you so much towards law enforcement?

My interactions with the police have been as positive as they could be, under the circumstances. I've read reports of other people's bad experiences with them, but without knowing all the details, this third-hand information, often filtered through some bias or another, isn't worth basing my future decisions on.

I've also known many people who hate the police in a "I'mma shoot the messenger way" - the police are acting in accordance with the laws, these people simply disagree with the laws, and by extension those who enforce them.

But your dislike and distrust seems to speak towards personal experiences where the police went beyond enforcing the law to your personal or close friends' detriment.
 
If trolling is having an opinion different from the norm here, then yes, I am trolling. I'm not pretending though just to get a rise out of you. I honestly don't like or trust the police.
As I've said before when you've posted this kind of defense, you're full of shit. You post things in a purposely antagonizing way to get a rise out of people and turn even those who agreed with your side of things against you, killing any kind of discussion aside from "WTF is wrong with Charlie?" Like George W Bush, you are a unifier, in that you bring people together because they now have a common problem.

...that said, I didn't see this as one of those times since "fuck the police" is a meme.
 
I suspect Charlie's animosity towards the police stems more from the inherent power they hold as an enforcer of laws then any particular reason, and he'll go out of his way to find examples that support his view of them as corrupt instead of what a rational person would do and look at it from both sides.
 
Can we, I don't know, stop supposing what someone else's motivation is and just let them speak for themselves?
 
these are your demands Vancouver?

http://www.cbc.ca/bc/news/bc-111104-occupy-vancouver-demands.pdf

vary reasonable. None of them contradict each other.
The thing vascillates from occasionally sane (like protection for whistleblowers) to totally and patently absurd (end free trade, health care must cover naturopathy) to humorously misspelled ("end corporate funding and control of collages").

Although maybe there's a lot of corporations who have their hands in junior high art projects. I can't be sure.
 
Ugh. Just ugh. Some decent ideas interspersed with hippy dippy ridiculousness.

I did get a laugh out of #41. "We demand an end to the corporate funding and control of collages and universities."

:( My arts and crafts group will be very disappointed :(
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DAMN YOU CHAD SEXINGTON! You have made an enemy this day!
 
Well that's... something. Just as I was thinking, "Hey, I can get behind a few of these ideas..." they hit me with a "9/11 is a conspiracy" request, and the whole thing unravels from there.

Although I did laugh at the "if we remove too many demands..." bit at the beginning though.

I hope they gain traction on at least a few things, though it's quite obvious this is merely a laundry list of existing desires of many other groups, many of which have severe issues to be resolved before they could be implemented.

Still, it's good that they are getting stuff down on paper and causing a dialogue. Especially since winter's coming, and a lot of people are going to pack up and head home for the winter.
 
The article says "several sheets" then uses the word "showered". Where do you get "hundreds" from?

traders at the Chicago Board of Trade dumped several sheets of paper on top of the heads of protesters below. Demonstrators were angered to find out they were showered with employment applications for McDonald’s
It's rude, sure, but terribly funny.
 
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