Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

And upon checking with sources (we miss you, Tom Brazelton!), this is not necessarily a win for the rest of us. His primary opponent is apparently just as bad, if not worse.
 
I mean it's a republican primary so by definition everyone is a white supremacist. Hard to believe his opponent is as open about it though.
 
Sadly, yes.
Really? I mean, I believe there is a big difference between getting all the forms properly counter-signed so you can bring a bar of chocolate to the compound, and spraying potentially harmful chemicals in inmates' faces.

Do we actually know that that is happening beyond the realm of error, aside from testimonies of people who may well have an agenda?
 
Do we actually know that that is happening beyond the realm of error, aside from testimonies of people who may well have an agenda?
There is a certain difficulty in obtaining accurate, impartial data, given the circumstances. In order to paint a picture with enough detail to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion, it may be necessary to consider data outside what would normally be preferred as a "tidy" standard deviation.

In other words (since I also have no degree in Statistics), if you are saying you require a quantity of publicly available and unimpeachable data that would place it beyond a reasonable doubt before you will assign any sort of credence to the allegations, then you have no idea what "reasonable suspicion" means.

--Patrick
 
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And, besides that, most CO's are lazy and would rather do as little as possible to get paid to watch children/adults all day.


(Yes, I say that as a former JCO.)
 
My stepmom has shared 6 right-wing videos today, several from PragerU. I feel like I'm seeing the start of the brainwashing.
My mom has been doing that since March. She was broken of looking at Facebook until she couldn't get her back fixed for over a month. :/
 
That Prager guy looks like if someone molded a human out of pure pig lard and put a wig on it. Like a homunculus made out of vegetable shortening.

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Oh yeah, he's a total piece of shit. And his channel is funded by oil billionaires, who certainly don't have any bias.

Also he made this. The part the title makes you want to skip to is 2:16.

 
There is a certain difficulty in obtaining accurate, impartial data, given the circumstances. In order to paint a picture with enough detail to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion, it may be necessary to consider data outside what would normally be preferred as a "tidy" standard deviation.

In other words (since I also have no degree in Statistics), if you are saying you require a quantity of publicly available and unimpeachable data that would place it beyond a reasonable doubt before you will assign any sort of credence to the allegations, then you have no idea what "reasonable suspicion" means.

--Patrick
I think you may be putting words into my mouth there a bit, Patrick.

I haven't been following the story very actively, but as I understand, at this point, we have a number of unverified claims by detainees at an immigration detention center claiming improper use of anti-covid chemicals in the facility. The relevant authorities have denied such claims as baselsess, and profess that the chemicals are being used appropriately.

For some people, the mere claim may be enough to cast blame, perhaps by virtue of past oversights by said authority, whether real or imagined. Personally, I would wish for further verification. What precisely is the proper method in the US I do not know, but I would guess that, if enough indication is detected, then an inquiry could be called for, interviewing the detainees, COs, checking inventories and procurement orders (a facility spraying chemicals ever 10-15 minutes would go through a ton of the stuff), whatever is appropriate. Then issue a report of their findings, after which I may feel like I have sufficient information to make up my mind on the issue.

I hope this serves to clarify my position on the matter.
 
I hope this serves to clarify my position on the matter.
it does. It sounded like you were dismissing the claims as baseless in a sort of "he-said/she-said" way, where the detainees were complaining but the jailers were saying there was nothing, and you were like, "Well, that's good enough for me!" It appeared that you were ignoring the fact that the complaints were not stopping, which could indicate that maaaaaybe the jailers weren't being entirely honest, and at a minimum should trigger some sort of external (, independent) investigation.

--Patrick
 
So, watching Rand Paul whitesplaining lynching was... an experience.
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His focus on the “problem” with the victim getting away with only minor injuries was very disturbing, because it sounds like the argument that it’s not really rape unless the victim has sufficient injuries to prove they fought back.
 
CNN: Ahmaud Arbery was hit with a truck before he died, and his killer allegedly used a racial slur, investigator testifies
Excerpts said:
GBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge Richard Dial testified that Bryan told police Travis McMichael said "f***ing n***er" after three blasts from his shotgun left Arbery dead in the street in the Satilla Shores neighborhood in February.

(..) [T]here were "numerous times" on social media and via messaging services that McMichael used the same slur, once messaging someone that he loved his job because there "weren't any N-words anywhere."

(..) As Travis and Gregory McMichael attempted to head him off, Arbery turned and ran past the truck of Bryan, who recorded the killing, and Bryan struck Arbery with the side of his truck, Dial said.

(..)
When police arrived after the shooting, Dial said, Gregory McMichael said in remarks caught on police body camera footage that he didn't know for certain if Arbery had stolen anything. "He had a gut feeling that Mr. Arbery may have been responsible for thefts that were in the neighborhood previously. He actually says gut. His instinct told him that," the GBI agent said.
I just finished listening to part of the hearing on the background, and the headline/contents are accurate. The investigation turned up a lot of scummy shit on these guys.

 
Okay, we're now only one or two steps removed from hearing people start using words like "cleansing" and "purity," and no matter WHAT some people may say, we need to start adding these people to some kind of "Caution: Advocates dangerous and/or regressive behavior" list so we can remember them when they deny/delete it later.
Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Jeff Merkley propose creating a national database of cops with a record of misconduct
It's a start, but they should also add in all the other public servant positions. Mayors, Governors, Senators, keep it going...

--Patrick
 
Kid's head is gonna explode someday. This much rage isn't healthy.




After all that, he ends it by calling you a “russophobe”. :rofl:

Also, JFC, that is some crazy Bernie Bro circle-jerking going on in that dude‘s Twitter. One of them claims to have PTSD because Biden got the nomination? :rolleyes:
 
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