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China Beats Out Finland for Top Marks in Education

#1

Terrik

Terrik

Education Survey: China Scores Top Marks; U.S., France Lag - TIME

Huh. That kinda surprises me too. Though it is one city, some people pointed out SH is still a population of 20 million and that's no small amount of people.


#2

TommiR

TommiR

LIES!


#3

Terrik

Terrik

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.


#4

TommiR

TommiR

Terrik said:
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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Seriously speaking though, good on China :) Especially the conclusions drawn from the methods employed in education are interesting. I think I recognise many of them as parts of our system as well, though perhaps these findings will also go some way towards convincing us over here to start paying a decent wage to our teachers.


#5

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Hey, I'm always open for getting more buck for my teacher bang.

Wait, that sounds dirty, doesn't it?


#6

TommiR

TommiR

North_Ranger said:
Hey, I'm always open for getting more buck for my teacher bang.
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Never you mind about PR statements. Now less talk, more work We have some chinese guys to catch up to.

On the more serious side again, what I meant was that, given the importance of good education for the future prospects of Finland in a changing world, I personally feel the education sector could use more funds, also in the personnel department.


#7

Terrik

Terrik

You're such a downer.

A DOWNER.


#8

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Wouldn't China actually need to start developing technologies instead of just building the end product for that to happen?


#9



Chibibar

mr_thehun said:
There is a lot of innovation happening here. Don't get me wrong.
China took the technologies for high-speed trains from the rest of the world and ran with it. When China first received the technology, the trains were traveling at around 250 km/h; however, at this point the fastest train is ~480km/h (China has the fastest train in the world that runs on rails, as opposed to meglev, but that's because meglev sucks up energy quicker than the village whore. Were they to do the 20,000 km of high-speed rail in meglev, China would need a couple dozen nuclear power plants, just to make the trains float.) with faster speeds expected to be developed next year.

There are several large initiatives that are taking ideas for alternative energy that were rejected in the United States due to lack of support that should be coming online in the next decade.

China recently developed the fastest computer in the world. While some might say that it was using Intel based Chips, Nvidia cards, what the Chinese developed themselves was the bridge that connected all of these things together. Not only that, but since Intel is operating within the boarders of China, it means that they had to sell a good chunk of their technology to the Chinese government.

I also know that several American companies that I deal with, have moved their R&D centers to China to take advantage of the fact that your average college graduate gets paid less than your average factory worker in China.

So yes, China is starting to create some interesting technology; however, a survey could never determine something like this.
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Also, you and I know that the education system in China is very very competitive. My mom told me the tests and grades she need in order to EVEN come to the states and study. There is high competition and respect in the school (at least when I was there) The teacher has the command of the room unlike the U.S. counter-part.


#10

Necronic

Necronic

mr_thehun said:
I also know that several American companies that I deal with, have moved their R&D centers to China to take advantage of the fact that your average college graduate gets paid less than your average factory worker in China.
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And I can think of a lot more companies that absolutely refuse to set up shop in China due to the inability or unwillingness of the government to enforce intellectual property rights.

Way I see it, until the chinese bureacracy can start running the country like a modern capitalist nation instead of the eyes to the side 'communists' who tacitly allow capitalism that they currently are they won't be able to excercise their full potential.

Which is good because when that day comes they will run the world. Without a doubt.


#11

Necronic

Necronic

Maybe so. Its interesting that as soon as Mao was gone the Chinese started shifting to capitalism. From the point of his death the acceleration of their economy was incredibly.

However, if they really want to take a seat at the big table (which they already deserve) they seriously need to change certain parts of their government. Their attitude towards NK for one, is unnacceptable and untennable in the long run, as are their anti-competitive foreign trade practices. Look, we big boys are allowed to do that to the third world, we don't do it to each other. Moreover, a lot of work needs to be done with regards to their human rights. Yet again, if you want to make a product for cheap by violating human rights you outsource to a developing nation and violate them there, don't crap in your kitchen, do it in someone else's. And hell, who has a better choice of developing nations to exploit than China?

But if they start behaving like the rest of us. Man. We are totally screwed (as are all the developing nations they will externalize their bad behavior on.)


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