Now the OWS food servers are part of the 1%
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/..._kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL#ixzz1c0UV1hEK
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/..._kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL#ixzz1c0UV1hEK
So there's this Occupy Wall Street protest in Manhattan today
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This would be an excellent time for the "99%" to show what they will do once they get their demands met. And apparently it includes kicking the truly poor and homeless out of their free food just so they can continue to eat as though at a four star restaurant.
I hope those that are supporting the movement financially understand the implications of the 99% pissing on the bottom 19%. In most revolutions the middle class uses the lower class in order to switch places with the upper class. The lower class, however, continues to be the lower class under the new system.
Dave
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http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2011/...-are-employed-compared-to-56-of-tea-partiers/
Discuss.
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And I know that second link includes the skewed infographic from before, but the employment rates of those in the movement I found interesting.
Their first infographic kills their argument around OWS being more employed than Tea Parties. Unless they believe people should work forever, retirees have earned their rest.
Adding in that 33% retiree, 89% of tea partiers are/were employed gainfully, 70% of OWS are/were employed gainfully.
it seems pretty clear. he said he supports the spirit of the movement, not necessarily the actions taken to promote it.
But he seems to perfectly in favor of police actions to stop it... including attacking the people who pay to go there.
In other news, Looks like someone was shot at Occupy Burlington. No details on what went down except that the police have pulled a body and a gun from the scene.
Attacking the people who camp there. Whether they pay or not is irrelevant if they don't have permission to camp.
But it's a protest. It's civil disobedience. This dance takes place each time - people resist, so force is used. The resistors claim that excessive force is being used - well duh, excessive resistance requires excessive force. What they're really saying is that they shouldn't be opposed. Similarly the police and property owners claim that protestors are performing illegal actions. Well duh, no successful protest used legal means to accomplish their goals, illegal action is necessary and warranted.
GasBandit
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On a somewhat related tangent...
... I detect a whole lot of disillusionment coming soon in the next generation of workers (or perhaps, unemployed first worlders). Sheesh, I remember not even being allowed to make or receive personal phone calls unless it was an absolute emergency! Now more than half of fresh-outta-college brats won't consider a position that won't let them facebook on the job.
... yes, I'm aware of the irony of this all coming from me - Mister "I only post from work." But if I got offered a job with more money, and the consequence was no more posting? Well, no more posting.
... I detect a whole lot of disillusionment coming soon in the next generation of workers (or perhaps, unemployed first worlders). Sheesh, I remember not even being allowed to make or receive personal phone calls unless it was an absolute emergency! Now more than half of fresh-outta-college brats won't consider a position that won't let them facebook on the job.
... yes, I'm aware of the irony of this all coming from me - Mister "I only post from work." But if I got offered a job with more money, and the consequence was no more posting? Well, no more posting.
Maybe it's always been this way, but as someone who regularly hires people in the 18-23yr old range I've NEVER seen such a sense of entitlement. It's stunning.
Ditto x 2 for today. But I'm in marketing so technically I'm supposed to be allowed to post to Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites. For work purposes...haha.
I've worked at places that tried to pull that kind of stuff. No thanks.
Necronic
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No he just can't afford the resources to clean up after it/police it. Unless the OWS people are planning on donating some money.
Looks like you've gotten your wish again. Oh wait no that wasn't from the police so it's a bad thing this time.
You know, this explains why I've seen people get hired at my job and then leave after a day. I always assumed it was because there wasn't a lot of talking going on since the job involves a lot of reading and concentration on what you're doing, but now that I've read this, it makes more sense that they quit because they're not allowed to check any sites not for work, Facebook is banned, we're not allowed to text, and phone calls have to be kept to emergencies or off-the-clock.On a somewhat related tangent...
... I detect a whole lot of disillusionment coming soon in the next generation of workers (or perhaps, unemployed first worlders). Sheesh, I remember not even being allowed to make or receive personal phone calls unless it was an absolute emergency! Now more than half of fresh-outta-college brats won't consider a position that won't let them facebook on the job.
... yes, I'm aware of the irony of this all coming from me - Mister "I only post from work." But if I got offered a job with more money, and the consequence was no more posting? Well, no more posting.
What a bunch of children.
People won't accept a job because it won't let them facebook at work? What a bunch of entitled morons.
First off, grow up. If your not willing to act like an adult, your not welcome in the Politics sub-forum.
Secondly, it looks like it was a suicide or at least that's what the witnesses are saying.
Necronic
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I'm sorry what part of your previous comment did I mistunderstand Mr Adult:
See, I wouldn't push you on that if you ever recanted that position. But you didn't. You just kept going. Which to me says that you see nothign wrong with the kidn of people that turn peaceful protests violent. To me, it seems like you want people to get hurt.
And that's not me being a dick. That's me directly reading your statement. Feel free to change your view any time.
Not like supposition is something new in the politics forum.
GasBandit
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Whoa, whoa whoa whoa, whoa. Wait. Hold on just a second. When the hell did THAT happen?
It figures that you'd suggest something like that, as I have no doubts you smugly sit back in your large comfy reclining chair, smugly petting your cat, and smoking a corn cob pipe...smugly.
My smugness is completely unrelated to the politics forum.
Necronic
Staff member
The reason I am harping on this is because you don't think this is a problem that can be solved with rational discourse, you believe it is ideological and required violence. And moreover, it's not even that you're a martyr yourself. You're just some imam sitting comfortably in his desk advocating others to be martyrs.
I've met you're kind before. You don't want democracy, you want an autocracy that aligns with your views.
Or maybe not. I dunno.
I've met you're kind before. You don't want democracy, you want an autocracy that aligns with your views.
Or maybe not. I dunno.
No, I want the issue to be resolved, no matter which way the pieces fall. I simply don't see how that is going to happen without an event that will make the public demand lasting change, when history shows us that it is the only way it ever does... and the riots and police clashes we've been having show that the public at large is ready to do something.
Honestly, we're not going to know if the small skirmishes we've had are going to be enough until some time after the next election. Hopefully it has been... because if it's not, things are going to get a lot worse than they are now.
Yeah, I laughed at that too.
