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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/18/national/main5697860.shtml

Well... before you jump at me, please read the article.

The girl was unruly and not wanting to take a shower and reportly kick the officer in the groin, but do you think tazing is a bit excessive?

I think they should have done it twice.

Because she wouldn't shower.


Huh.


Shoulda tased the mom for being a fucking bad parent.

Might as well have tazed the family. Could have been a nice little light show. Hell, do it while tossing them all in the shower.

Dave said:

Because she wouldn't shower.


Huh.


Shoulda tased the mom for being a fucking bad parent.

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I was wondering about that. How unruly you have to be for the mom to call the cops on her daughter?

I think that is a little misuse of public service isn't it?

Parents who call the cops for idiotic things like this should be sentenced to community service. As a family.

Of course I also believe in equal sentencing for the parents of minors charged for crimes (Parents serve the same sentence as if they themselves had committed the act)

Unless this little girl isn't little or the mother is disabled, then the police shouldn't have been called.

Having said that, the next time mom says to take a shower you damn well better bet this little shit is getting clean fast!

So I guess it worked...

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TotalFusionOne said:

Of course I also believe in equal sentencing for the parents of minors charged for crimes (Parents serve the same sentence as if they themselves had committed the act)

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Says the guy who's never had kids. This is bullshit. How much control did YOUR parents have of you when they were not around?

TotalFusionOne said:

Of course I also believe in equal sentencing for the parents of minors charged for crimes (Parents serve the same sentence as if they themselves had committed the act)

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Says the guy who's never had kids. This is bullshit. How much control did YOUR parents have of you when they were not around?

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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he has a kid.

TFO? Really? Then it's doubly silly an idea.

Snuffleupagus;301846][quote][quote=TotalFusionOne said:

Of course I also believe in equal sentencing for the parents of minors charged for crimes (Parents serve the same sentence as if they themselves had committed the act)

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Says the guy who's never had kids. This is bullshit. How much control did YOUR parents have of you when they were not around?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he has a kid.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that is a good idea (I don't have kids yet)

so what if "your kid" is all nice and everything at home and school. Does all his/her work and make good grades and doing well (teachers love him/her) then one day go on a killing spree cause of mental breakdown the kid will either be admit to mental institution or jail (say the kid is 16) so you going to prison for life since your kid is going to prison too?

While parenting is important (my parents believe in corporal punishment) there are times I do sneak out and do stuff cause well.... we were kids!!

Dave said:

TFO? Really? Then it's doubly silly an idea.

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Yupyup. Four year old girl. Almost five. This is the first time I've really lived away from her so it's been rough.

And no, it's not silly. Did my parents have control over me? No. Did they influence me and pay attention to the way I grew up to educate me against doing such asinine things? Yes, yes they did. That is not to say that I wasn't a fucking bitch to my parents at the time, I was. But they handled it. And taught me well. Have never been arrested or had the cops called on me for a legitimate reason.

She was obviously a danger to the officer... seriously, how does that cop not get laughed at daily after this...

I stopped reading after I read Arkansas.

I think if a cop can't restrain a 10 year old girl without the use of a tazer, he doesn't belong on any police force.

Chibibar;301853][quote=Snuffleupagus;301846][quote][quote=TotalFusionOne said:

Of course I also believe in equal sentencing for the parents of minors charged for crimes (Parents serve the same sentence as if they themselves had committed the act)

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Says the guy who's never had kids. This is bullshit. How much control did YOUR parents have of you when they were not around?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he has a kid.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that is a good idea (I don't have kids yet)

so what if "your kid" is all nice and everything at home and school. Does all his/her work and make good grades and doing well (teachers love him/her) then one day go on a killing spree cause of mental breakdown the kid will either be admit to mental institution or jail (say the kid is 16) so you going to prison for life since your kid is going to prison too?

While parenting is important (my parents believe in corporal punishment) there are times I do sneak out and do stuff cause well.... we were kids!![/QUOTE]

What case study have you read where there was absolutely NO indication. I'm thinking there's usually something going on that parents just ignore.

TFO
Oklahoma Bombing come to mind. Granted there was some indication near the end, but before the actual incident, the guy was pretty normal.

Edit: I remember reading a while back.

Note: there might be some indication, but also depend on how smart the person might be. you be surprise how well some people can hide their true feeling for a long time.

Chibibar said:

TFO
Oklahoma Bombing come to mind. Granted there was some indication near the end, but before the actual incident, the guy was pretty normal.

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Ten-year-old Oklahoma Bomber?

I'll believe it when I see it.

Spoiler

(no, Murphy, that was NOT an invitation).

Chibibar said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/18/national/main5697860.shtml

Well... before you jump at me, please read the article.

The girl was unruly and not wanting to take a shower and reportly kick the officer in the groin, but do you think tazing is a bit excessive?

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http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation_world/story/198920.html

More in depth story. He used the taser more as shock than as a full knock out tazing.

Course I have no idea why on earth he needed to take the girl into custody at all. For fuck's sake she's a 10 year old girl who doesn't want to take a shower what part of that requires him to arrest her?

Iaculus;301900][quote=Chibibar said:

TFO
Oklahoma Bombing come to mind. Granted there was some indication near the end, but before the actual incident, the guy was pretty normal.

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Ten-year-old Oklahoma Bomber?

I'll believe it when I see it.

Spoiler

(no, Murphy, that was NOT an invitation).

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no. I mean people can hide their true intent. most I can think of is possible that a kid can be pressure into drinking at a party (it happens) the kid could be good kid but got into a car with friends and kill a bunch of people (it happens when you are drunk driving)

so..... do you get punish too for one irresponsible act?

While I may NOT have actual data/news articles or past events, it doesn't mean it can't happen. This is human after all.

plus I was responding to TFO assertion that parents should suffer SAME penalty for the crimes their kids commit.

So I was giving example since children are consider kid from 17 and under (18 you are consider an adult) so parents should be punish if your kids do stuff under age of 17?

even shoplift you have fine so by TFO, the fine is double since you fine the parents too.

What if your kid was drunk driving?
What if your kid got into a fight defending someone and accidentally kill someone?

These are extreme circumstances, but it could happen.

Some of the minor stuff happens all the time
Your kid was frame for shoplifting (someone put stuff in your kids' backpack without their knowing) they are fine and police was called, should you be persecuted too? (btw that happen to me once with a bunch of guys I don't get along with, they decide to pay me back)

Bowielee said:

I think if a cop can't restrain a 10 year old girl without the use of a tazer, he doesn't belong on any police force.

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Wait, what....how?

I've seen my share of fat cops, but wow, the others mostly look like athletic/strong guys that sit in a patrol car too much. This guy looked like he was 140 lb then tossed on 200 more with no strength gain.

bitch had it coming

Now if the parent tazed the kid, we'd all be crying child abuse.

But the police? Well, I guess that makes it okay, then.

Soliloquy said:

Now if the parent tazed the kid, we'd all be crying child abuse.

But the police? Well, I guess that makes it okay, then.

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/reads above

Yeah, I don't think anyone's seriously saying it was OK. Shego's usual fake psycho persona aside.

Bowielee;302531][quote=Soliloquy said:

Now if the parent tazed the kid, we'd all be crying child abuse.

But the police? Well, I guess that makes it okay, then.

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/reads above

Yeah, I don't think anyone's seriously saying it was OK. Shego's usual fake psycho persona aside.[/QUOTE]

Fake? About as fake as you saying you're a gay man.

There must be nothing to do in Ozark if the cops actually responded to that call. That's almost as bad as that lady who called the sheriff's department because her burger wasn't done right.

The child will now respond more positively to instructions. And all it cost you was paying her therapy bills.

Therapy? Just taze her again.

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