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I like how in past seasons the title for this thread was RIP Peyton Manning. I think he's doing ok now...

Titans are undefeated, good season so far

Same old Bills.

49ers looked great, and the Raiders didn't suck as much as I thought they would! Good times in the Bay Area.

Well the Giants gave the game to the Cowboys. But, what really shocked me was when the Cowboys took it...

I hate how interceptions that bounce off a recievers hand, and travel 10 yards at an odd angle right into a lucky cornerbacks arms are charged against the QB. Seriously.

Covar said:

I hate how interceptions that bounce off a recievers hand, and travel 10 yards at an odd angle right into a lucky cornerbacks arms are charged against the QB. Seriously.

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Similar with throws that are dropped by the receivers that should have been caught and are recorded as incomplete (which usually don't affect fantasy points). Baseball calls it an error and protects pitcher stats.

It compensates for when qbs get an incomplete when the ball was right in the dbs hands, or when it's mis-thrown and the receiver makes a one handed grab.

Good teams find ways to win the game...

Panthers are now 2-14 in games that are decided by 7 points or less.

I seriously believe that this season is already over. The Panthers would have to somehow run the table on the rest of their schedule in order to reach the playoffs. I do not see anyway they could do that against the likes of the Giants, Patriots, and oh yeah the Saints and Falcons twice. We should go ahead and fire all of the coordinators and Ron Rivera. Do it now and immediately start the search for replacements.

The Texans are the newest incarnation of the Cardiac Kids.

I don't know. The secret to beating the Giants seems to be putting just enough pressure on Eli that he can't get a good pass off, but not so much that he doesn't think he can get a miraculous long bomb off. That, or he hasn't figured out yet that no matter how many times he throws the ball to his brother's friends, they're still not going to accept him as one of their own. The Panthers might be able to imitate that.

General Specific said:

Good teams find ways to win the game...

Panthers are now 2-14 in games that are decided by 7 points or less.

I seriously believe that this season is already over. The Panthers would have to somehow run the table on the rest of their schedule in order to reach the playoffs. I do not see anyway they could do that against the likes of the Giants, Patriots, and oh yeah the Saints and Falcons twice. We should go ahead and fire all of the coordinators and Ron Rivera. Do it now and immediately start the search for replacements.

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That was a crushing game (though I liked it a lot) but 0-2 to the playoffs is not that absurd. You'd have to go probably 10-4 the rest of the year which is difficult, but not unreasonable at all.

Ok, maybe I was a little too harsh on the Panthers last week. 38-0 over the Giants. 7 sacks. Passing all over the field. Where the hell were these guys the first two games?

Further on into the season now and I definitely overreacted. Defense has gotten together and are playing tremendously well. Newton is not the best right now, but we are doing enough to get wins. 10-9 over the 49ers last week was a hard game to watch. Monday night vs New England this week is going to be interesting.

Anyone else watching Detroit & Philly right now? I'm trying to, but all I'm getting is snow...

Meh, color me unimpressed. I remember times watching the Packers on Monday nights in December when you couldn't see the field and there were snowbanks in the end zones because that was where it was shoveled as they were clearing the seating area.

I don't understand how the Pats can truly be such a second half team. There's nothing the first half, and it's like they come back out and announce they've actually decided to win. These comebacks are unbelievable, but lord knows that can't last.

Zappit said:

I don't understand how the Pats can truly be such a second half team. There's nothing the first half, and it's like they come back out and announce they've actually decided to win. These comebacks are unbelievable, but lord knows that can't last.

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Well, that and refs giving them the game. Can't have lowly Cleveland beating the golden children of the NFL.

Dave said:

Well, that and refs giving them the game. Can't have lowly Cleveland beating the golden children of the NFL.

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His Lordship should never have to experience such a defeat.

Ok this is awesome

Andre Johnson foots the bill for a dozen underprivileged and at-risk kids to go crazy in a toy store for 80 seconds

Apparently he's been doing this for seven years.

Covar said:

Ok this is awesome

Andre Johnson foots the bill for a dozen underprivileged and at-risk kids to go crazy in a toy store for 80 seconds

Apparently he's been doing this for seven years.

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If he or JJ Watt ever turn out to be jerks, I'd be highly disappointed.

I'll bet the 13th kid thinks he's a jerk.

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Well, that and refs giving them the game. Can't have lowly Cleveland beating the golden children of the NFL.

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Ehh, Boyce got wrapped up way before the ball got there, so that was clearly pass interference. And the refs haven't been giving the Pats the game - in fact, they handed one to the Jets by calling an Unsportsmanlike for pushing a player into the pile during a failed field goal - a dubious call at best, and the Jets got 15 and a fresh kick that won that game. That penalty hasn't been called since.

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... hasn't been called since.

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kinda like the tuck rule?

BErt said:

kinda like the tuck rule?

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Jeeze, give it a rest already! It's not like the pats were recording other team's defensive signals...

Ah yes, the convict pre-release snowplow.

Y'know, some records you just don't want to break. Like your career highest interception record. NY has got to make some changes and buy Eli an offensive line. Not that I really mind, as a Seahawks fan.

Gared said:

Y'know, some records you just don't want to break. Like your career highest interception record. NY has got to make some changes and buy Eli an offensive line. Not that I really mind, as a Seahawks fan.

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Quoted for truth. I said during the '08 Superbowl that the defensive line should have gotten MVP, because I feel like they won the game for the Giants. And I like Eli. I feel like he often gets more of the blame than he deserves. I don't think he's Peyton, but he can only do so much with a less-than-reliable offense. And I'm a life-long Giants fan, so today's game hurt a bit, but didn't surprise me.

Dang, that was a sick interception by Tramon Williams.

Cowboys play calling and defense, you suck. FUCK!

Lemme guess, you thought Kramer was offside too, hey?

Nah. Cowboys did enough that that probably wouldn't have mattered. Both sides got away with some calls.

blotsfan said:

That was a crushing game (though I liked it a lot) but 0-2 to the playoffs is not that absurd. You'd have to go probably 10-4 the rest of the year which is difficult, but not unreasonable at all.

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Told you it could happen @General Specific

blotsfan said:

Told you it could happen @General Specific

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Yeah, I will still be amazed if we beat the Saints next week. Especially after our showing in New Orleans. Still, Saints seem to be a much different team on the road and if we beat them and then also take down Tampa Bay again, we win the NFC South.

I hate to be "that guy" and we did nothing to help ourselves...but can the lions get a fucking break? This is two straight weeks with at least 3 WTF calls against us. Grumble grumble...

Good teams overcome bad officiating.

And good teams overcome bad injuries, too.

Wow, what a game between the Saints and Panthers. I am still not quite sure how we pulled out the win.

Panthers clinch the playoffs and have 1 more game to go in ATL; that if we win, we lock up the NFC South.

What the hell, Seahawks?

I guess good teams lose to Pittsburgh at home instead of on the road like bad teams.


Bill O'Brien is a pretty good coach and I hope he likes Michigan.

Just like that, all the Bears need is a win tonight against a team with nothing to play for.

Piotyr said:

Just like that, all the Bears need is a win tonight against a team with nothing to play for.

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I gave you a like but only because there isn't a "Shake my fist in frustration" rating. Congrats to you.

Look on the bright side; no way Schwartz comes back next year... right?

drifter said:

Look on the bright side; no way Schwartz comes back next year... right?

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In all honestly, I don't mind him as a coach ( which I guess says a lot about the Lions)...but yeah, probably not. Hence my Bill O'Brien comment.

Gared said:

What the hell, Seahawks?

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Yeah... it's too bad that billboard went up 27 miles from the stadium. In a different city. Hell, maybe if it was closer to the stadium, the Seahawks would have remembered how to offense.

Gared said:

Yeah... it's too bad that billboard went up 27 miles from the stadium. In a different city.

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It did? We couldn't even get that right?

Yep, the official story is that they put it there so that all of the fans on their way to the stadium had to drive past it... but that's unlikely.

Whatever, man. The sentiment stands.

Piotyr said:

Just like that, all the Bears need is a win tonight against a team with nothing to play for.

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Except to play spoiler.

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More than you.

DarkAudit said:

More than you.

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1) Barely, and...

2) I wasn't talking to you.

Tress said:

Whatever, man. The sentiment stands.

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Actually, I love this rivalry. I'm actually genuinely saddened that the billboard is so far from the stadium. Hopefully we'll see each other in the playoffs. Good luck in your final home game in Candlestick.

Yep, just one win away...

I'm sorry, I can't hear you from all these NFL championship banners muffling your murmuring.

And our theme is "Stayin' Alive" this week.

Nomo Romo?

Congrats 49ers on clinching a playoff birth, and for an awesome send-off for Candlestick. I only caught the last 8 or 9 minutes of the game, but that pick 6 was a hell of a play.

Woo! Close game, but NFC South Champs! 1st round bye and more importantly, sending the Saints on the road!

Thanks for the awesome capper to this year, Bears.

Dammit Orton, you almost had me believing...

Hahahahaha! Cowboys fans were feeling all tingly, and then December hit.

Nice season, Cowboys. The Romo Orton curse strikes again.

Dave said:

Nice season, Cowboys. The Romo Orton Jones curse strikes again.

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Fixed.

And serves him right, the jackass.

A couple of missed calls in SD, and the Steelers would've made the playoffs. Not that they deserved it. Not when things like "Free Hernandez" were the narrative of the early season.

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Thanks for the awesome capper to this year, Bears.

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Either sarcasm or a Packer fan, not sure which.

I am still waiting for the Cowboys to distance themselves from Jerry Jones...

I kinda suspected that the last team to score would win this game. After Kapernick got that first down with less than a minute to go, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

So much for that home freezer advantage.

It was a helluva game, though. Well played by the Packers.

That and $300 (or more on the street) gets you to the Super Bowl, though.

Niners are gonna have to step up their game against Carolina though.

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Niners are gonna have to step up their game.

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FTFY. Each team left in the NFC bracket beat them earlier this year. They just barely got past Green Bay, and I doubt they will be so lucky against the other three.

Not only did my Panthers beat the 49ers earlier in the season, they did it AT San Fran. They are coming to Carolina this time. Just hoping Steve Smith is healed up by then.

Final four is set: Niners vs. Seahawks and Patriots vs. Broncos.

I'm thinking a Seahawks/Broncos Super Bowl.

My picks are the opposite of yours: 49-ers/Patriots

Seahawks vs Broncos, Broncos champs.

I would give anything to see the 49ers go up to Seattle and beat them in their own house.

I know, I know, but I can dream, can't I?

Well damn. Panthers lost. I can say that the 49ers did beat us. It would have been much less frustrating for me if the officiating was better, but we still could not make plays when we needed to. I guess the consolation is now I don't have to watch the Panthers go up to Seattle and get their asses handed to them. Have fun, SF!

I am now officially rooting for Payton Manning to win his second super bowl.

I'm rooting for Russell Wilson to win his first.

Kaepernick is from Turlock, so I'm rooting for the hometown kid to win HIS first ring.

Once a Badger, always a Badger.


(Though I do make an exception for Heatley and Suter.)

Fuck you, Kaepernick. You had better spend every moment of the off-season working on your reads and decision making, because right now you're throwing like an idiot.

And fuck you Sherman, you fucking punk. I hope Manning & Co. humiliate your sorry ass in two weeks.

Can't say I'm surprised that the injuries finally caught up with the Pats; they looked depleted today. Hell, they got further than they should have. Next year. Next year.

Now go run Peyton's ass over, Seattle.

Sherman doesn't bother me. I'm rooting for Russell Wilson.

I was totally for Seattle until Sherman. Now I hope he gets torched.

Truthfully, I don't see Seattle winning on a neutral field against this Denver team.

That's incredible.

Richard Sherman owns and I have the distinct impression a lot of his critics wouldn't care if he were white or if he played for their team.

Go Seahawks

Charlie Don't Surf said:

Richard Sherman owns and I have the distinct impression a lot of his critics wouldn't care if he were white or if he played for their team.

Go Seahawks

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The latter is true. The backlash towards Johnny Football shows that disliking players for obnoxiousness isn't just by race.

That being said, I don't really care about it. From what it sounds like, Crabtree is a massive asshole and tried to fight Sherman at a charity event. Also, I can't blame him for being pumped right after the biggest moment of his career.

So let me get this straight, a dude blows up at a sideline reporter (although she wasn't the target, which wasn't apparent initially) and acts like a massive douchenozzle, has a history of doing just this...and we are disgusted because we're racist?

Huh.

It's Charlie. Everyone else is always racist.

Charlie Don't Surf said:

Richard Sherman owns and I have the distinct impression a lot of his critics wouldn't care if he were white or if he played for their team.

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I can't speak for everyone, but color plays no factor for me when someone acts like an ass. I hated Shockey when he was one of the Giants and couldn't wait until we got rid of him. Acting like a jerk isn't excusable, no matter who it is. Same reason I intensely dislike Tom Brady and Tiki Barber(sad, 'cause I used to really like Barber) for being child-abandoning bastards.

I didn't say YOU were racist, guys, calm down. No one here called him a thug at least.

As a casual football fan I want to see more of that. Way to deviate from the script Sherman!

Charlie Don't Surf said:

I didn't say YOU were racist, guys, calm down. No one here called him a thug at least.

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I have no doubt that some of the people coming down on Sherman because he's black, but I think saying "a lot" of his critics are doing so is an over-statement. Like Timmus said, he deviated from what is considered an acceptable response. It's considered poor sportmanship for anyone, regardless of race or gender, to say those things in a nationally televised interview. You save that for the locker room or private or whatever. Yes, he was excited and there is most likely 9and probably deserved) bad blood between him and Crabtree, but this isn't the forum where you air it.

Besides, it's not like national opinion hasn't been know to turn on anyone who says something stupid in public. Generally, we want our "winners" to be gracious.

Sherman tore into Skip Bayless before. That makes him a hero in my book

"... he hugged me so hard I hit my chin on his pads. It was a raw, passionate, candid moment. That’s how pumped he was.”

"You expect these guys to play like maniacs and animals for 60 minutes,” she said. “And then 90 seconds after he makes a career-defining, game-changing play... that’s why we grab them right after games because we hope they lose their minds like that, we hope they show pure joy. We hope he does the same thing at the Super Bowl."

"That was awesome. That was so awesome. And I loved it.”

-Erin Andrews

I think whether you disapprove of Sherman depends a lot more on whether you're a seahawks fan or not than if you're racist.

Apparently, Sherman's numbers really back him up for INTs, which is a surprise to me. Guess I haven't watched enough Seahawks to really take notice.

He was targeted a grand total of 58 times this season (as of January 17 - add two more targets from the 49er's game) and had 8 INT's.

He also gave up 30 receptions, which is over 50% completion rate when targeting him. In addition, addition, give him 7 penalties, which effectively makes this 37 receptions, for a rate of 37/58 (63%).

Boykin allowed 52 receptions and had 3 penalties, for a total of 55/89 (61.7%)

So it's pretty close, but I'd still give Boykin the edge. Sherman is very all or nothing.

And he has an ego to match, which is what I can't stand. I mean, Ochocinco had an ego, but instead of being in your face, everyone liked him and his antics. He was having fun. Sherman just comes across like a douchebag.

I'm wrong about Sherman.



"Hell of a game."

Yeah, that was some thuggery and taunting there, man.

Shhh. He's a heel now.

He's literally a Stanford graduate, and not in the "sports medicine" field most athletes are in. He's probably smarter than almost everyone on this board.

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He's literally a Stanford graduate, and not in the "sports medicine" field most athletes are in. He's probably smarter than almost everyone on this board.

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He has a degree in communications. THIS is the go-to degree for people who are in college for sports. So he may be smart, but you can't use his degree as a measure of his intelligence.

At my college, general studies seems to be the popular joke major for athletes.

Apparently it's General Business followed by Sociology and then Communications.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748703743504575493773613076844

General Studies comes in at #5. But, of course, this is from 2010 and was for BCS football players only. It's my experience, though, that communications is the go-to easy major for athletes.

In Sherman's defense, he's currently earning a Master's degree from Stanford. That's not something a dumb athlete who skated through college would be doing. He *is* intelligent. I just hated the way he conducted himself in that post-game interview.

Tress said:

In Sherman's defense, he's currently earning a Master's degree from Stanford. That's not something a dumb athlete who skated through college would be doing. He *is* intelligent. I just hated the way he conducted himself in that post-game interview.

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I do understand it though, now. If I said good game to someone and they hit me in the face I'd sure be upset.

Dave said:

I do understand it though, now. If I said good game to someone and they hit me in the face I'd sure be upset.

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I...agree. And 49er fans have known for a while that Crabtree can be an asshole.

But still.

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I do understand it though, now. If I said good game to someone and they hit me in the face I'd sure be upset.

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And if some guy went around doing the choke symbol before coming up to me and saying "good game" I very well might smack them in the face.

Don't know how this became anything other than "gosh maybe Athlete's aren't great role models" I'll never understand.

Dubyamn said:

And if some guy went around doing the choke symbol before coming up to me and saying "good game" I very well might smack them in the face.

Don't know how this became anything other than "gosh maybe Athlete's aren't great role models" I'll never understand.

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He did the choke thing AFTER Crabtree, not before. And I'm not arguing about all athletes, just that I was wrong about Sherman.

Thing is, Crabtree ain't that great of a wide receiver.

I should know. Thanks to his inability to catch the ball in his college career, Bucky Badger won its first ever Rose Bowl back in '94.

He's actually pretty good. Just an asshole as well.

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Thing is, Crabtree ain't that great of a wide receiver.

I should know. Thanks to his inability to catch the ball in his college career, Bucky Badger won its first ever Rose Bowl back in '94.

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Ya gotta salute a 6 year old playing in the Rose Bowl...

My bad, I was thinking J.J. Stokes.

"I found a girlfriend for the Latin kid." [DOUBLEPOST=1390608805,1390608657][/DOUBLEPOST]And on that note, we're going to the Pro-Bowl open practice tomorrow. Since Noah played flag football this past fall he has really gotten into following the NFL (as best an 8 year old with no cable tv can at least). I think he's going to have a blast. Anyone we should especially look out for?

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Ohana Day was a bit disappointing. My impression was that all military kids would have a chance to go on the field and that we would have "special" seating. The seats we had were too high for the mascots to reach when they threw t-shirts. It seemed like they picked kids to go on the field prior to the practice. The announcer said the kids were participants in Play 60...but all of the youth sports programs on base are part of Play 60. Which means Noah should have been able to participate. Nope, not the way it went down. They brought out the mascots and cheerleaders to do routines and play with the kids who were on the field.
The practice itself didn't start until an hour after we got there. Even then we only saw Team Deion since they were holding practice separately (really?) and they didn't introduce the players. The seats we had were directly in the sun, but on the 50 yard line. So we got a great view of the field, but it was hot. Lily was playing games on Shawn's phone. Noah was not having fun either since we just sat there waiting for some real action to begin. We decided to try to move to another section that was shadier only to find out that it was reserved. What? This was an open to the public, free event. I asked the kids if they wanted to leave and they both said yes. For a fun family event it sure didn't feel that way. The San Diego Padres could teach the NFL a few things about family day.

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Ohana Day was a bit disappointing.

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Sounds like the Pro Bowl all right.

I'm sorry to hear how that turned out. The NFL definitely has its head up its ass about how treat fans.

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I'm sorry to hear how that turned out. The NFL definitely has its head up its ass about how treat fans.

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and sadly it doesn't seem to matter. I often wonder if the NFL is in a bubble.

I think for die-hard fans it would be great. But it wasn't a family-oriented event as far as activities or participation.

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I think for die-hard fans it would be great. But it wasn't a family-oriented event as far as activities or participation.

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... which is insanely myopic. Blowing kids' minds with an awesome experience is how you make lifelong customers.

Tress said:

... which is insanely myopic. Blowing kids' minds with an awesome experience is how you make lifelong customers.

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I agree, especially since the Pro Bowl is an exhibition rather than a regular game anyway.

I'm going to miss the superbowl because I have to spend time with my Chinese family. Why can't they understand there are more important things in life? Pfft.

Terrik said:

I'm going to miss the superbowl because I have to spend time with my Chinese family. Why can't they understand there are more important things in life? Pfft.

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They'd understand if it were NBA playoffs.

Thing is, Wasabi, the NFL isn't as thrilled about the Pro Bowl as they used to be. You're just getting a taste of that.

Terrik said:

I'm going to miss the superbowl because I have to spend time with my Chinese family. Why can't they understand there are more important things in life? Pfft.

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Do you still live in Shanghai? Just sneak down to Big Bamboo before everyone's awake. They'll never know the difference.

How far away do you guys think we are from the Pro Bowl being played entirely on Segways?

Timmus said:

Do you still live in Shanghai? Just sneak down to Big Bamboo before everyone's awake. They'll never know the difference.

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If only it were that easy. The problem s im going to Fuyang, Anhui. Chinese New Year starts on the 30th. Originally I was going to go to Shanghai to watch the game, but I was *very* politely informed by my fiance that leaving on the 2nd to make sure I see the game would not be in my best interest especially if some of her family members are planning on giving out a few 红包s which would require my presence to receive them.

Terrik said:

If only it were that easy. The problem s im going to Fuyang, Anhui. Chinese New Year starts on the 30th. Originally I was going to go to Shanghai to watch the game, but I was *very* politely informed by my fiance that leaving on the 2nd to make sure I see the game would not be in my best interest especially if some of her family members are planning on giving out a few 红包s which would require my presence to receive them.

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We're expected to attend one of my husband's family's CNY celebrations *on* Super Bowl Sunday, but I think they planned the party around football fans, because it's over by 3 PM. We go, eat, get our hong bao and get home plenty of time before kick-off.

This is also why I like my mother-in-law's annual CNY planning; we always host the party on a Saturday close to the start of CNY. This way we get big family party, but she gets to invites her friends that would otherwise be occupied with their own family's celebrations (ditto for our friends) and we never have to miss a Super Bowl.

I think it's only a matter of time before the Pro Bowl is played on Madden.

jwhouk said:

I think it's only a matter of time before the Pro Bowl is played on Madden.

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With all the players on the field, in rolling recliners that minions have to move around just like they're in the game.

Sparhawk said:

With all the players on the field, in rolling recliners that minions have to move around just like they're in the game.

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Life-size electric football!

Reading Engadget's Super Bowl viewing guide I just heard the best argument for why I should upgrade my soundbar to an full surround system.

If you tire of Joe Buck and Troy Aikman's call, a well-known trick to eliminate commentary is to pull the center channel from your surround sound system ..., which is usually the only one with the broadcaster's voices, leaving only stadium sounds from the other speakers.

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That might be the greatest thing I've ever heard.

No.

ABOUT #### TIME.

Ray Guy FINALLY elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame

You who never had the privilege of seeing him play don't understand: Ray Guy changed games. He would punt, the ball would be up in the air so long that one of the Raiders' coverage team could literally go down and catch it on the 5 - and the Raider D would just push the opposing team back into the end zone.

So do you guys think the NFL needs a mercy rule?

Timmus said:

So do you guys think the NFL needs a mercy rule?

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Broncos just can't catch a break.

Hey, so has Shaq Gretsky helped the Florida Argonauts win the Golden Gloves by shooting a 3-point birdie from the blue line yet?

...

This is why you never see me in the Sports subforum.

Amazing. The Broncos finally scored. I was beginning to wonder if they knew where the end zone was.

Celt Z said:

Amazing. The Broncos finally scored. I was beginning to wonder if they knew where the end zone was.

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Of course they do.





It's where you give up a safety.

This is a bit ridiculous now....

Raise your hand if you ever heard of "Malcom Smith" before today.


Nope, didn't think so.


Cue the "Denver Bronco World Champion t-shirts headed for Haiti" jokes.

Had a feeling Seattle would win, but damn. Bruno Mars and the Hooligans coulda put up a better fight.

His legs know nothing of gravity.

I was expecting Seattle to squeak out a victory. But 3 minutes in they had it won.

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I threw that out there at the party we went to this afternoon. By the end of the 3rd quarter it was pretty clear that Seattle had won. They needed to call mercy and let it go.

WasabiPoptart said:

I threw that out there at the party we went to this afternoon. By the end of the 3rd quarter it was pretty clear that Seattle had won. They needed to call mercy and let it go.

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And lose those hundreds of millions of eyes glued to the set for their advertising? Yeah right

But yeah, that wasn't the best game I've ever seen*



*I've seen about 2 and 1/2 games of American Football in my life, so this may not be saying much

Didn't see a minute of it. By the time I woke up and saw the score alerts on my phone, I didn't have to.

Wayne Larrivee pulled out "the dagger" after the second half kickoff return.