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Ok, this is weird. So, these guys are charged with terrorist related attacks and only allow limited communication with the outside and they are suing their jailers?

Wow, I guess you can sue anything to anyone.

Chibibar said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/30/ap/government/main6347473.shtml

Ok, this is weird. So, these guys are charged with terrorist related attacks and only allow limited communication with the outside and they are suing their jailers?

Wow, I guess you can sue anything to anyone.

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Well, if they are indeed being treated more harshly than other federal prisoners, and if it does violate federal law, they may well have grounds.

Equal rights, remember?

Iaculus;363300][QUOTE=Chibibar said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/30/ap/government/main6347473.shtml

Ok, this is weird. So, these guys are charged with terrorist related attacks and only allow limited communication with the outside and they are suing their jailers?

Wow, I guess you can sue anything to anyone.

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Well, if they are indeed being treated more harshly than other federal prisoners, and if it does violate federal law, they may well have grounds.

Equal rights, remember?[/QUOTE]

I keep forgetting that U.S. prisoners have a lot of rights that many other country don't. You broke the law, you lose your rights.

Chibibar;363304][QUOTE=Iaculus;363300][QUOTE=Chibibar said:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/30/ap/government/main6347473.shtml

Ok, this is weird. So, these guys are charged with terrorist related attacks and only allow limited communication with the outside and they are suing their jailers?

Wow, I guess you can sue anything to anyone.

Click to expand...

Well, if they are indeed being treated more harshly than other federal prisoners, and if it does violate federal law, they may well have grounds.

Equal rights, remember?[/QUOTE]

I keep forgetting that U.S. prisoners have a lot of rights that many other country don't. You broke the law, you lose your rights.[/QUOTE]

The issue with that, of course, is that it gives the government an easy way to remove the rights of citizens it doesn't like - not necessarily a category exclusively limited to criminals, and not necessarily proportionate to actual criminals' crimes. What tends to follow is obvious - especially in this case, where cutting off contact could very well mean that what would happen to these people wouldn't filter to the outside world.

Icaculus is right. Just because you've been imprisoned, it does not give the government the ability to strip you of your rights. Some, perhaps (right to vote is denied to convicted felons), but the social stigma of being an ex-con more or less destroys you as a citizen anyway.

I could see guards treating certain prisoners with harsher methods due to the nature of their crimes (CO's tend to...not see anything when child rapists/murderers get the shit kicked out of them).

Chibi wants the U.S. to become China.

escushion said:

Chibi wants the U.S. to become China.

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Dude, cheap shot.

mr_thehun said:

so do many republicans?

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Many Republicans want the U.S. to become an atheist socialist country?

And if you meant on the prisoners stuff, then you mean conservatives.

escushion;363746][QUOTE=mr_thehun said:

so do many republicans?

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Many Republicans want the U.S. to become an atheist socialist country?

And if you meant on the prisoners stuff, then you mean conservatives.[/QUOTE]

No, they want it to become a Fascist Theocracy so they can inflict their morality on the populace without reprisal, without having to give time to those with different beliefs.

AshburnerX;363759][QUOTE=escushion;363746][QUOTE=mr_thehun said:

so do many republicans?

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Many Republicans want the U.S. to become an atheist socialist country?

And if you meant on the prisoners stuff, then you mean conservatives.[/QUOTE]

No, they want it to become a Fascist Theocracy so they can inflict their morality on the populace without reprisal, without having to give time to those with different beliefs.[/QUOTE]

Oh. Then yeah.

Surprisingly, it's still a Theocracy as long as your telling people they can only believe in one thing. Even if that one thing is that there is no God.