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Okay, so let's be totally honest for a second. I grew up on the Nightmare movies. They are, hands down, my favourite horror movies. So, when I heard that one of my fave horror flicks was being remade? I was really, really pessimistic.

Then they casted Jackie Earle Haley. After seeing his performance in Watchmen (one of the few bright spots of the movie), I was totally sold on the idea. But I was still cautious because there was no trailer yet and...well, it's a remake.

The first trailer made me cautiously optimistic. Looks like a lot of the kills and moments are taken from various other Freddy movies and put in here. Which is fine. I actually liked the Friday the 13th remake and how they basically condensed the first three movies into one.

Now? I am so stoked. I love the idea of micro naps, which has a LOT of great potential that's never been used in a Freddy movie. I'm stoked, but not getting my hopes up too high. It'll be damn hard to replace Robert England.

Micronaps where always a part of Freddy movies. Whenever a character finds themselves in a dream, despite being someplace where they wouldn't normally be sleeping, they were essentially taking a micro nap. They just never really gave it a name in the original movies.

The Friday remake wasn't really all that great. I mean it was nifty, but I didn't feel it offered anything worthy of a remake. The kills were so so, and the plot just meh. I liked the idea of the underground tunnels, but overall it just seemed like it was a generic slasher that just used the hockey mask to make it an official Friday movie.

Shawnacy said:

Micronaps where always a part of Freddy movies. Whenever a character finds themselves in a dream, despite being someplace where they wouldn't normally be sleeping, they were essentially taking a micro nap. They just never really gave it a name in the original movies.

The Friday remake wasn't really all that great. I mean it was nifty, but I didn't feel it offered anything worthy of a remake. The kills were so so, and the plot just meh. I liked the idea of the underground tunnels, but overall it just seemed like it was a generic slasher that just used the hockey mask to make it an official Friday movie.

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To be fair, Friday the 13th pretty much defined every slasher movie cliche, so making a remake of it can't really be anything but a generic slasher flick.

As to the Nightmare on Elm St movie, I'm still out on it. The last trailer still leaves me with this sinking feeling that they're going to make him an innocent victim instead of an actual child killer. That will totally ruin it for me as it invalidates who freddy is as a character as a whole.

Yeah, you might be disappointed there. From what I've read, he's WRONGLY accused by the parents and actually did nothing wrong.

Between that and the Rob Zombie Halloween remakes, I'm sick of movie makers trying to make us feel sympathy for the bad guy. And I totally admit that the Friday remake wasn't great by any means. But it didn't exactly have a high quality of film to beat in the first place. They captured the idea behind the main character better than other horror remakes have.

<sigh> I remember when evil bastards were just evil bastards because they're evil bastards.

ThatNickGuy said:

Yeah, you might be disappointed there. From what I've read, he's WRONGLY accused by the parents and actually did nothing wrong.

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Hmm. Maybe that's just the description of the Robot Chicken sketch where Freddy is given an ugly sweater and fedora as birthday gifts and crashes a School Gift Giving Fund Raiser where his intentions are misunderstood and he's burned alive.

Shawnacy;346572][QUOTE=ThatNickGuy said:

Yeah, you might be disappointed there. From what I've read, he's WRONGLY accused by the parents and actually did nothing wrong.

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Hmm. Maybe that's just the description of the Robot Chicken sketch where Freddy is given an ugly sweater and fedora as birthday gifts and crashes a School Gift Giving Fund Raiser where his intentions are misunderstood and he's burned alive.[/QUOTE]

The original teaser trailer strongly implies that it is that he is wrongly accused. That totally ruins the character for me.

Looks awesome, movie is going to be amazing.

In regards to all of these worries about Freddy being sympathetic, they're actually bringing back the element of him being a child molester and the "wrongfully accused" possibility is that, while he was a child killer, he might not have killed those particular children.

Or he may be lying?

Silver Jelly said:

Or he may be lying?

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Exactly. They're going with a Freddy that's even more of a monster, really.

The Lovely Boner said:

Looks awesome, movie is going to be amazing.

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As someone who can genuinely never tell if you're being serious or not with posts like this, I reluctantly agree.

I loved the Elm Street movies as a kid, but they moved so quickly into camp that by the time they were done, they had eliminated anything that made them scary. I still enjoyed them, but they weren't in the least bit scary.

The first one, though...that one was gold.

This looks like they could bring that back.

Regarding the did he or didn't he debate, according to a test screening review over on AICN

I want to say "all is well in the world, then" but it doesn't feel quite appropriate.

Meh.

First impressions:

I still don't like modern big budget movie lighting. I just don't. It's the black equivalent of washing out. Oo, we'll throw in some tinted light highlights. Mind you, it's better than the 90's blue tone filter. I mean, neither is bad per se, but they're so overused that it genericizes the effect. You know what movie had good night lighting? The first Spider-Man. It's also got the EXTREME!!11!! problem. For instance, it takes one of the SCARIEST moments from any movie ever, where Freddy pushes his face through the drywall, and warps it to the extreme, completely removing the fear induction from it. A subtle "was...was that a face??" is WAY scarier than the entire freakin' body coming out of the wall.

As far as sympathy for the devil is concerned, the problem is that it's never done right. It's always tacked on. It could be done much better by a good writer director.

fade said:

As far as sympathy for the devil is concerned, the problem is that it's never done right. It's always tacked on. It could be done much better by a good writer director.

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How do you know it's not done right and it's a bad writer/director from a trailer?

I wasn't responding to the trailer. I was responding to the people saying that the sympathy thing was overplayed in hollywood.

oh, yeah. Ffff I can't read