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AC/DC MP3's not at Amazon WTFrak?

#1



Dusty668

Got Evil Walks stuck in my head at work yesterday, decided to do some impulse shopping. Went to amazon to buy and download "For those about to rock" the album the song is on...

There is as far as I can tell not one AC/DC tune in MP3 format on amazon. What's up with this?

So, other legal tune instant download venues that are NOT iTunes you like?


#2

Zappit

Zappit

I think they sell MP3s on the AC/DC website, but they have an exclusive with Wal-Mart now or something like that.


#3



Dusty668

Tried the AC/DC site, nothing but CD's, DVD's and CD & DVD in a WORKING GUITAR AMP.

Not what I am personally after. I'll try wally world later.


Edit:

Just for grins headed on over. Exclusive or not at walmart MP3 download site they have sweet f***k all. Hey AC/DC guess what? I tried legal, I really did. I got a 500 gig external drive and a buddy at work. Two, here's two, let the band figure it out.

You say you are in the business of selling albums, that's fine, give me a place to buy. I'm not needing a coaster though, just music.


#4

Bowielee

Bowielee

iTunes doesn't have AC/DC either. Same with the Beatles. Whoever owns the rights to those catalogs doesn't want to allow digital downloads of the music.


#5



Dusty668

Yah giving people who like their music no place to buy copies of their music will sure show those pirates.



#6

Bowielee

Bowielee



#7



Alucard

How can you not like itunes? Itunes is your friendddddddd your frienddddddddddddd


#8

@Li3n

@Li3n

So they showed their record company that if people weren't forced to buy all the songs at once they wouldn't?! Sure sounds like they had faith in all the songs they put in an album.


#9

tegid

tegid

No, it's not like that. He says they don't want to release singles because they concieve albums as a whole (yeah arright). Apparently, back in the day, the company pressed them to release singles, and they said 'look, albums make you more money. Leave us alone'


#10



Dusty668

Yah but now all AC/DC wants to do is shore up the CD distribution company from the looks of their actions.


#11



Shadazz

Actually, anywhere I go here in Australia has AC/DC cds. Why? Oh, probably because they're Australia. They make more revenue here than anywhere in the world, because they're culture to us. They're not going to pump their shit to every shithole in America because they're not as appreciated there, so they keep it small. Just business sense in my opinion.

And guys, Acca Daccas been around for thirty odd years now. They're used to CDS and Vinyls, and it's done them pretty well so far. The internuts is a mystery to 50 year olds in my opinion.


#12

Espy

Espy

I don't think AC/DC is considered a "small" band here in the states... maybe they aren't as big now as they were in the past but still, if they choose to not let people buy their music through the easiest and what's becoming the most common (online) method then... well, thats their choice. Good luck with that. When a kid hears them on the radio or rockband or whatever and he wants to buy that song he's not going to drive his 12 year old self to Best Buy, he's going to jump on iTunes and buy it. Only it won't be there. So he will torrent it instead.


#13

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I don't think many people under the age of 25 know AC/DC very well anymore actually Espy.


#14

Espy

Espy

Really? They get played constantly on our local rock stations.


#15

@Li3n

@Li3n

No, it's not like that. He says they don't want to release singles because they conceive albums as a whole (yeah arright). Apparently, back in the day, the company pressed them to release singles, and they said 'look, albums make you more money. Leave us alone'
So it's exactly how i said, you just said it in a more naive way...


#16

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Really? They get played constantly on our local rock stations.
How many of those stations are run by 25yr olds, DJed by 25yr olds or have a larger portion of their listening base under 25?


#17

Espy

Espy

I have no idea, I really avoid both the hard rock and classic rock stations (along with most radio). All I know is when I do turn them on its not unusual to hear AC/DC playing.

From wiki:
Since Nielsen SoundScan began to track music sales in 1991, AC/DC have sold over $26.4? million worth of albums, making their sales figures second only to The Beatles, outselling both The Rolling Stones and The Who. Over the last five years, as CD sales have declined in general, AC/DC albums have sold just as well or better. They sold over 1.3 million CDs in the US during 2007 despite not having released a new album since 2001 at that point.[77]
In 2009 the Recording Industry Association of America upgraded the group's US sales figures from 69 million to 71 million, making AC/DC the fifth-best-selling band in US history and the ninth-best-selling artist, selling more albums than Madonna, Mariah Carey and Michael Jackson.[6] The RIAA also certified Back in Black as double Diamond (20 million) in US sales, and by 2007 the album had sold 22 million copies, which moved it into fifth place.[8]
So I dunno, seems like they are still pretty popular in the US.


#18

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Never said they weren't popular anymore, I simply stated their demographic has changed like any 70s-80s band.


#19

Espy

Espy

I think most kids know Highway to Hell and Hells Bells, etc. If not from the radio from Rockband, etc. Theirs been quite the resurgence in many of the 70's and 80's bands thanks to Guitar Hero and Rockband.


#20

blotsfan

blotsfan

I don't think many people under the age of 25 know AC/DC very well anymore actually Espy.
As someone who is part of that demographic, I think you're completely wrong.


#21

Sparhawk

Sparhawk

I don't think many people under the age of 25 know AC/DC very well anymore actually Espy.
You would be surprised, AC/DC is in regular rotation on the local high school's band buses on trips.


#22

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Other than Rockband/Guitar Hero introduction, I just don't see it.

Oh and posts like "Well I know about it, so you must be wrong" I don't believe you're part of the general consensus.


#23

blotsfan

blotsfan

Sure some people won't know them, but its not just me. Pretty much all the young whippersnappers I acquaint myself with are at least aware of AC/DC's existence


#24

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So you're saying the Miley Cyrus generation is well versed on AC/DC? I just disagree with you.


#25

Espy

Espy

Other than Rockband/Guitar Hero introduction, I just don't see it.

Oh and posts like "Well I know about it, so you must be wrong" I don't believe you're part of the general consensus.
Posts like "Well I don't think so so you must be wrong" means I just don't believe you are part of the general consensus. ;)

Seriously, unless someone has numbers it's really a moot point. I don't know how many under 25 folks know AC/DC, they are ONE OF THE BIGGEST SELLING rock bands in the US so I feel safe saying most people do unless anyone has some info that isn't merely personal conjecture that contradicts that.


#26

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

It can be a moot point, it's also called an opinion. I also know that the general public are a rolling group of morons.


#27



Kitty Sinatra

I don't know how many under 25 folks know AC/DC, they are ONE OF THE BIGGEST SELLING rock bands in the US so I feel safe saying most people do unless anyone has some info that isn't merely personal conjecture that contradicts that.
But kids today don't buy music. :p


#28

Espy

Espy

Lol, fair enough, and of course you are welcome to your opinion. I just haven't seen anything that indicates you have any basis for that belief. Which is fine, you don't need it, but based on their overall US popularity I tend to think more people under 25 know about them than you think.

Either way, back on topic, I don't understand why they don't sell their tracks solo. They aren't putting out concept albums or anything.


#29

@Li3n

@Li3n

Either way, back on topic, I don't understand why they don't sell their tracks solo. They aren't putting out concept albums or anything.
Because they make more money that way, as people that would have normally only bought one or two songs have to buy the whole album instead...

Basically they long ago proved to the record company that only a few songs on their albums are songs people will buy, so letting them buy only those songs means they will no longer buy the album.


#30

fade

fade

I don't think many people under the age of 25 know AC/DC very well anymore actually Espy.
Now I know you don't live below the Mason-Dixon line.


#31



Dusty668

Because they make more money that way, as people that would have normally only bought one or two songs have to buy the whole album instead...

Basically they long ago proved to the record company that only a few songs on their albums are songs people will buy, so letting them buy only those songs means they will no longer buy the album.
Actually they proved that the record company makes more money off of an album than a single song, which makes sense with physical formats. Say it costs 75 cents each to make a pressing run of albums, and 25 cents each to make a pressing run of single (45 rpm) records. The albums will sell for more per unit than the singles do, for about the same costs of a pressing run, higher cost per unit is amortized into higher profit per unit. With this thinking, it is almost stupid to press more singles than you need for radio airplay.

For downloaded music, the cost is measure per byte of storage and bandwidth. Your costs are the creation costs (what's paid to the musician, recording studio,gig/studio musicians, managers, record companies, lawyers), hardware costs (server, harddrives, power, server farm HVAC, paying some network guy to be handy), and bandwidth. Creating by the album will save you money by reducing amount of paperwork to handle, but making the music easy to buy legally is where you MAKE the money.


#32

Bowielee

Bowielee

Because they make more money that way, as people that would have normally only bought one or two songs have to buy the whole album instead...

Basically they long ago proved to the record company that only a few songs on their albums are songs people will buy, so letting them buy only those songs means they will no longer buy the album.
Actually they proved that the record company makes more money off of an album than a single song, which makes sense with physical formats. Say it costs 75 cents each to make a pressing run of albums, and 25 cents each to make a pressing run of single (45 rpm) records. The albums will sell for more per unit than the singles do, for about the same costs of a pressing run, higher cost per unit is amortized into higher profit per unit. With this thinking, it is almost stupid to press more singles than you need for radio airplay.

For downloaded music, the cost is measure per byte of storage and bandwidth. Your costs are the creation costs (what's paid to the musician, recording studio,gig/studio musicians, managers, record companies, lawyers), hardware costs (server, harddrives, power, server farm HVAC, paying some network guy to be handy), and bandwidth. Creating by the album will save you money by reducing amount of paperwork to handle, but making the music easy to buy legally is where you MAKE the money.[/QUOTE]

Actually, the record companies don't have to pay any of the hardware or bandwidth costs, the provider (IE iTunes, Amazon, Napster, etc...) pay for all that.


#33

@Li3n

@Li3n

The albums will sell for more per unit than the singles do
the joke was that they would not... ;)


#34



Shadazz

I don't think AC/DC is considered a "small" band here in the states... maybe they aren't as big now as they were in the past but still, if they choose to not let people buy their music through the easiest and what's becoming the most common (online) method then... well, thats their choice. Good luck with that. When a kid hears them on the radio or rockband or whatever and he wants to buy that song he's not going to drive his 12 year old self to Best Buy, he's going to jump on iTunes and buy it. Only it won't be there. So he will torrent it instead.
Most 12 year olds don't have credit cards. Well, at least I didn't.


#35

@Li3n

@Li3n

Most 12 year olds don't have credit cards. Well, at least I didn't.
You probably didn't have a mobile phone either...


#36



Shadazz

Most 12 year olds don't have credit cards. Well, at least I didn't.
You probably didn't have a mobile phone either...[/QUOTE]

Wrong, haha. This was only seven years ago.


#37

@Li3n

@Li3n

Then i guess your parents just didn't love you enough...


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