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Amnesia: The Dark Descent

Jun 17, 2012#1

Tiq

Can we talk about this game?

So umm... SHIT BE SCARY, YO'.

Thoughts?

Jun 17, 2012#2

bhamv3

Bought it on Steam during the last Potato Sack sale. Played it for about 40 minutes. Got too scared, closed it down, never played it again.

It's a good game, and I want to play it some more, I just need to get braver first. Cause seriously, this is the first and thus far only game I've been too scared to play.

Jun 17, 2012#3

Bowielee

I have it waiting on my steam list, but it's yet another in the long list of games that I'm working my way to.

On a related note, Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs has been announced.

Jun 17, 2012#4

Tiq

bhamv3 said:
Bought it on Steam during the last Potato Sack sale. Played it for about 40 minutes. Got too scared, closed it down, never played it again.

It's a good game, and I want to play it some more, I just need to get braver first. Cause seriously, this is the first and thus far only game I've been too scared to play.

Sounds like you need some sort of wonderful bravery inducing montage.

Jun 17, 2012#5

bhamv3

Tiq said:
Sounds like you need some sort of wonderful bravery inducing montage.

Ooh, Rocky-style training montage? Set to the same music?

Jun 17, 2012#6

Tiq

bhamv3 said:
Ooh, Rocky-style training montage? Set to the same music?

I was thinking more like a montage of you running down a hallway filled with the echo's of screaming monsters, actually... and maybe at the end, you have to go hand to hand with a zombie, or something.

You'd feel braver after that, right?

Jun 17, 2012#7

bhamv3

Tiq said:
I was thinking more like a montage of you running down a hallway filled with the echo's of screaming monsters, actually... and maybe at the end, you have to go hand to hand with a zombie, or something.

You'd feel braver after that, right?

... Can't reply, busy pissing myself.

Jun 17, 2012#8

Tiq

In all seriousness, I think amnesia is the perfect example of what the survival horror genre needs more of.

Resi 4 will always hold a special place in my heart, but I don't think the evolution of survival horror games lies in "SHOOTY BANG, BANG" and amnesia is really refreshing to play. I just wish more developers were making truly terrifying games like this, instead of turning them into FAST PACED ACTION MOVIES WITH SOME ZOMBIES FLUNG IN FOR GOOD MEASURE!!!

You... you guys still like zombies, right?

.....right?

Jun 17, 2012#9

bhamv3

I agree that Amnesia is definitely one of the pinnacle of survival horror games, but the fact that I (and some others, I'm sure) find it too scary to play might turn off developers, who want their product to reach as wide an audience as possible. And apparently more people like shooting fast paced zombies than dark claustrophobic corridors with shadowy monsters lurking behind you.

Jun 17, 2012#10

Tiq

bhamv3 said:
And apparently more people like shooting fast paced zombies than dark claustrophobic corridors with shadowy monsters lurking behind you.

Well I hope you don't mind me saying this, but literally fuck all of those people with a rake.

Jun 17, 2012#11

SpecialKO

Amnesia is an awesome game. I made the mistake of playing it in my room at night.

Not doing that shit ever again.

Jun 17, 2012#12

Tiq

SpecialKO said:
Amnesia is an awesome game. I made the mistake of playing it in my room at night.

Not doing that shit ever again.

Did you spontaneously wet yourself with fear?
It's ok you can tell us... this is a safe place.

Jun 17, 2012#13

Bowielee

The 10 minutes I played of it was moody as all hell. I'm assuming it gets even scarier as you go on.

Jun 17, 2012#14

Tiq

Bowielee said:
The 10 minutes I played of it was moody as all hell. I'm assuming it gets even scarier as you go on.

Oooooh yes.

Just wait till you get to the water...

Jun 17, 2012#15

bhamv3

Tiq said:
Oooooh yes.

Just wait till you get to the water...

Oh god, there's WATER later on? I can just imagine the terrifying potential there...

Jun 17, 2012#16

Tiq

bhamv3 said:
Oh god, there's WATER later on? I can just imagine the terrifying potential there...

Two words.

Invisible monster.

Mull that one over, for a bit.

Jun 17, 2012#17

Ravenpoe

Fuck the water.

Fuck it in its watery ass...

I'm never going near any water in any game ever again.

Jun 17, 2012#18

Tiq

Ravenpoe said:
Fuck the water.

Fuck it in its watery ass...

I'm never going near any water in any game ever again.

I can taste your fear and pain, from here poe.

It is delicious.

Jun 17, 2012#19

bhamv3

Tiq said:
Two words.

Invisible monster.

Mull that one over, for a bit.

Whelp, that settles it, I'm going to go play a game more suited to my level of cowardice. Like Solitaire.

Jun 18, 2012#20

SpecialKO

Tiq said:
Did you spontaneously wet yourself with fear?
It's ok you can tell us... this is a safe place.

No, it was more that I actually threw my mouse in terror when my cat's cold nose touched the back of my knee.

Jun 18, 2012#21

SeraRelm

After how unimpressed I was with the "ooo scary web comic" thread, I've serious doubts as to the level of terror I'll find in this game.

Jun 18, 2012#22

SpecialKO

Not knowing what was in that thread, I will just ask:

Did you ever play Eternal Darkness, and did you find it at least moderately intense?

If yes, you will like this game. It's like someone took most of the physical monsters out of Eternal Darkness (they're there, but it's not about facing them and gunning them down anymore, it's about running the fuck away because you have no weapons) and added in atmosphere.

Jun 18, 2012#23

SeraRelm

I played ED and laughed at a lot of it.

Jun 18, 2012#24

SpecialKO

Hmmm...maybe not, then.

Jun 18, 2012#25

Tiq

SeraRelm said:
I played ED and laughed at a lot of it.

Jun 18, 2012#26

CynicismKills

From what I've heard, the Fatal Frame series makes this look like nothing. Sadly the only videos I can find of it have random dudes with their recording equipment on and they're all screaming like scared children. Kind of kills the atmosphere.

Jun 18, 2012#27

SpecialKO

CynicismKills said:
From what I've heard, the Fatal Frame series makes this look like nothing. Sadly the only videos I can find of it have random dudes with their recording equipment on and they're all screaming like scared children. Kind of kills the atmosphere.

If they really wanted to sell me on the Wii U, it would be by making a new Fatal Frame game, using the gamepad as the camera.

Jun 18, 2012#28

SeraRelm

Fatal Frame is where it's fucking AT! Crimson Butterfly was amazing.

Jun 18, 2012#29

Frank

Amnesia > FF in the scariness department in my opinion.

You have a weapon in FF. Amnesia affords you no such luxury.

Jun 18, 2012#30

Fun Size

What I played of Crimson Butterfly was amazingly creepy. Freaked me right the Hell out.

Jun 18, 2012#31

Ravenpoe

Every now and then I have to stop and play costume quest, because that game makes me happy.

Jun 18, 2012#32

SeraRelm

You have a camera in FF.

Jun 18, 2012#33

Frank

A camera that defeats or at least slows down the ghosteses. All you have in Amnesia is whatever you can throw in the path of whatever it is is chasing you until you can lose it and find a place to hide it out.

Jun 18, 2012#34

Bowielee

No offense Sera, but you watch gore movies like they're porn, so I'd have to say your scary gauge is a little on the skewed side.

Jun 18, 2012#35

SeraRelm

That or I've seen enough real shit that supernatural fantasy stuff doesn't phase me.

Jun 18, 2012#36

Frank

Bowielee said:
No offense Sera, but you watch gore movies like they're porn, so I'd have to say your scary gauge is a little on the skewed side.

I don't think gore is scary. Amnesia is all about the atmosphere.

Not responding to Bowielee here, I don't think that the Fatal Frame games are bad. Quite the opposite really, I think they're about the best horror games ever made this side of Amnesia which I think has dethroned them.

Jun 18, 2012#37

CynicismKills

I think Dead Space 1 did alright, though it got a little jump-scare focused sometimes. From what my brother tells me 2 was much better and quite a bit more disturbing (though again, gets a little too focused on jump-scares).

Jun 18, 2012#38

Frank

Ugh, nursery rhymes aren't scary. Reminds me of that Cracked article talking about the original script to a movie I can't remember where over and over again it's written that kids are singing Frere Jacques and that it's totally scary. Oh yeah, it was Akira.

The Little Boy looks up, HIS HAIR STANDING ON END, EMITTING A GENTLE PULSE OF STATIC ELECTRICITY as he begins to hum a slow, haunting version of "Frere Jacques." It chills to the bone.

Jun 18, 2012#39

CynicismKills

I feel like it would make more sense in the storyline as opposed to just seeing that clip (it was the first one I found), but I do agree. Nursery rhymes and British children are pretty overused tropes.

Jun 18, 2012#40

Tiq

SeraRelm said:
That or I've seen enough real shit that supernatural fantasy stuff doesn't phase me.

See personally, I find that the more grounded in reality I become, the more the idea of supernatural shit becomes effective at scaring me.

Having said that, I have an extremely paranoid mental state at times... movies like blair witch have always been extremely effective at freaking me out, because leaving my mind to it's own devices in these situations is the best way to scare the shit out of me.

Jun 18, 2012#41

SeraRelm

I guess I've less faith in the supernatural. I'm not afraid of any of that. The creaking footsteps behind me in some dark woods? I'm more afraid it's a person than a ghost or some shit.

Jun 18, 2012#42

Ravenpoe

Tiq said:
See personally, I find that the more grounded in reality I become, the more the idea of supernatural shit becomes effective at scaring me.

Having said that, I have an extremely paranoid mental state at times... movies like blair witch have always been extremely effective at freaking me out, because leaving my mind to it's own devices in these situations is the best way to scare the shit out of me.

Amnesia does a good job of being scary because they know how to use empty space. Not having a monster behind every door is scarier than having a monster jump out every minute, because then your paranoia starts to become your own worst enemy.

Jun 18, 2012#43

SpecialKO

SeraRelm said:
I guess I've less faith in the supernatural. I'm not afraid of any of that. The creaking footsteps behind me in some dark woods? I'm more afraid it's a person than a ghost or some shit.

I wish Manhunt had been like this. The Most Dangerous Game would make a great game done right.

Jun 18, 2012#44

Bowielee

Frank said:
I don't think gore is scary. Amnesia is all about the atmosphere.

Not responding to Bowielee here, I don't think that the Fatal Frame games are bad. Quite the opposite really, I think they're about the best horror games ever made this side of Amnesia which I think has dethroned them.

I wasn't saying gore was scary, BTW.

Just that Sera's views of what is/isn't disturbing is going to be completely skewed to the general populace.

Jun 18, 2012#45

SeraRelm

So tell us how you really feel.

Jun 18, 2012#46

Tiq

SeraRelm said:
So tell us how you really feel.

I think he's calling you a sick puppy.

Don't be taking that shit... teach him the exquisite pain of the knife.

Jun 18, 2012#47

SeraRelm

Meh, he knows near nothing about me and I'm fine with that.

Jun 18, 2012#48

Hailey Knight

Eternal Darkness was a great story, fun, and mind-fucky, but the only time I got scared was

When my insanity meter fucked with my attempts to save and played it as "Deleting Saved Game"

Jun 18, 2012#49

SeraRelm

Yeah, I loved that stuff. THAT is what made me laugh.

Jun 18, 2012#50

Bowielee

SeraRelm said:
Meh, he knows near nothing about me and I'm fine with that.

I'm not the one who cultivates an online persona of being a psycho.

I find it funny that you're offended that I'm implying you are what you pretend to be.

Jun 18, 2012#51

Hailey Knight

Bowielee said:
I'm not the one who cultivates an online persona of being a psycho.

A person doesn't need to be a psycho to have seen some shit. Although sometimes seeing some shit turns a person into a psycho.

Just ask my wife. :awesome:

Haaaaaaaaaaaa not funny...

Jun 18, 2012#52

SeraRelm

I'm not Shego, if anything, I think I've proven myself to just laugh stuff off most of the time and try to make light of situations. I'm not offended though, I mean you really do know little about me and I really am ok with that.

Jun 18, 2012#53

Tiq

Bowielee said:
I'm not the one who cultivates an online persona of being a psycho.

I find it funny that you're offended that I'm implying you are what you pretend to be.

See now it's comments like that, that wind up with you being taught the exquisite pain of the knife.

Jun 18, 2012#54

bhamv3

CynicismKills said:
I think Dead Space 1 did alright, though it got a little jump-scare focused sometimes. From what my brother tells me 2 was much better and quite a bit more disturbing (though again, gets a little too focused on jump-scares).

Having played both Dead Space 1/2 and Amnesia, I'd say Amnesia blows them both out of the park in terms of scariness. In Dead Space, you get to be a one-man walking arsenal. You get no such luxury in Amnesia.

Jun 18, 2012#55

Hailey Knight

Dead Space's gimmicks got old real fast.

Jun 18, 2012#56

CynicismKills

Quotemander Prime said:
Dead Space's gimmicks got old real fast.

That's basically what I meant with jump-scares, yeah. I liked the first game, all in all, but I'm sure it pales next to Amnesia/Fatal Frame.

Jun 18, 2012#57

Hailey Knight

CynicismKills said:
That's basically what I meant with jump-scares, yeah. I liked the first game, all in all, but I'm sure it pales next to Amnesia/Fatal Frame.

Jump scares would be it. Mainly the creatures that would play dead. They stopped being surprising by #3 and stopped being funny by #16.

Jun 19, 2012#58

Terrik

Hope you guys are right. I just bought it because of this thread.

Jun 19, 2012#59

fade

Ooh. Cool. I LOVE survival horror. <----------------LOOK I SAID I LIKE SOMETHING.

I hope it's not like the Dead Space games, though. I really did find those kind of boring. I returned DS before I finished it. That was a sci-fi shooter with some jump scares thrown in. I want something that scares you like radio static ramping up in Silent Hill (because whoever decided that a radio would be a good radar was a freaking genius. No sarcasm.) Plus, I didn't like the difficulty level in DS. Normal was too easy, and hard was like saying "Dear monsters, here are my balls."

Jun 19, 2012#60

Necronic

SeraRelm said:
That or I've seen enough real shit that supernatural fantasy stuff doesn't phase me.

See, this is weird to me. It makes sense, in some ways, and totally doesn't in others. I've had more than my fair share of "close calls". I literally almost had my face melted off once. I've had a loaded shotgun pointed in my face. I know what real danger is.

Which is exactly why "unreal" danger is so scary. With "real" danger there are rules. There are ways of avoiding it, there are ways of mitigating it. With supernatural stuff there's nothing you can do. You are completely helpless and at the whims of a being whose motivations are so alien you can't even begin to fathom them.

Cenobites chasing you? What are you going to do. Go to the cops? Call the FBI? Get the Vatican to try and protect you? There's nothing you can do. There is only the flesh.

Jun 19, 2012#61

SpecialKO

fade said:
LOOK I SAID I LIKE SOMETHING.

And yet, you still balanced it with something you disliked. :trolol:

Jun 19, 2012#62

Ravenpoe

Necronic said:
See, this is weird to me. It makes sense, in some ways, and totally doesn't in others. I've had more than my fair share of "close calls". I literally almost had my face melted off once. I've had a loaded shotgun pointed in my face. I know what real danger is.

Which is exactly why "unreal" danger is so scary. With "real" danger there are rules. There are ways of avoiding it, there are ways of mitigating it. With supernatural stuff there's nothing you can do. You are completely helpless and at the whims of a being whose motivations are so alien you can't even begin to fathom them.

Cenobites chasing you? What are you going to do. Go to the cops? Call the FBI? Get the Vatican to try and protect you? There's nothing you can do. There is only the flesh.

Say what you want, those guys know how to party. Sure, you may not be able to find your skin after, but it will be one HELL of a night.

Jun 19, 2012#63

Necronic

You know what the scariest part of those stories is to me. That it's NOT Hell. That this isn't a religious thing. If it was then it would imply a heaven. But there isn't a heaven, there isn't a god, there isn't a devil. There's just these horrific things. There is just the flesh.

Jun 19, 2012#64

Fun Size

SeraRelm said:
That or I've seen enough real shit that supernatural fantasy stuff doesn't phase me.

As a parent, I can tell you that I've seen a lot of real shit. Diapers, not flushing, calls for wiping assistance...you name it. Still, I'm left unjaded. Seems like a flimsy excuse to me.

Jun 19, 2012#65

fade

SpecialKO said:
And yet, you still balanced it with something you disliked.

I am in a state of fade zen.

Jun 19, 2012#66

Necronic

You know, as a bit of a followup/correction, I think the thing is with "supernatural" stuff is that when you've been exposed to a lot of rational fears, there's something comforting about a completely irrational terror. Being afraid of cenobites is kind of fun. Being afraid of cancer isn't.

Jun 19, 2012#67

Hailey Knight

Necronic said:
You know what the scariest part of those stories is to me. That it's NOT Hell. That this isn't a religious thing. If it was then it would imply a heaven. But there isn't a heaven, there isn't a god, there isn't a devil. There's just these horrific things. There is just the flesh.

The book fiction of the Cenobites is so much more interesting than where the movie sequels went with it.

Jun 19, 2012#68

SeraRelm

I don't think they're frightening, I think the idea behind them is interesting though. The idea of stretching the bounds of experience.

Jun 19, 2012#69

Necronic

Yeah, that's what everyone says until they open the puzzle box. Then they see what's what.

Jun 19, 2012#70

Hailey Knight

SeraRelm said:
I don't think they're frightening, I think the idea behind them is interesting though. The idea of stretching the bounds of experience.

I love how in the book Frank thinks they're going to be dimension-hopping beautiful women.

Jun 21, 2012#71

Terrik

So this game does creep me out.

I think it's mostly because I don't have a gun, or any way to defend myself. I literally have to cower in a corner and hope my face isnt torn off. A lot of horror games never managed to really get to me because I could blow the brains out of anything that got in my way. The original Dead Space ALMOST got there, but as long as I had a corner and enough ammo (or saw blades, lawl), I could weather the storm. But there are instances where I pause Amnesia, got a coke and just stop playing, because I get too absorbed and I get too nervous to play.

Aug 3, 2012#72

dill616

I've had this game for a few months now, but haven't had the time to play it. Cowering in corners? Scary monsters? Terrifying twists? This sounds awesome. Keep in mind that I'm a huge fan of Asian horror movies (k-horror being my favorite) and I'm not easily frightened. Seriously, the last movie that scared me was House on Haunted Hill and I was 14. I'm definitely giving Amnesia a go now!

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