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#1

David

David

I may have a chance to move to Tempe, AZ in about 6 months for a job working for a friend's start-up game company. This isn't set in stone yet and other things need to fall into place first to ensure enough financial backing, but I'm looking at what is there. Does anyone know of something particular there is to do or see around that area or have any particular tips? Do I still have to worry about keeping proof of US citizenship on me at all times in AZ?


#2

Bowielee

Bowielee

You're a braver man than I... I wouldn't have enough balls to pick up stakes for a position in a starter company.


#3

David

David

The thing for my position is, I have basically nothing other than immediate family tying me here, who I can always move back in with if things in Arizona crash. I've gone basically as far as I can at my college without moving up to a university, which I would probably also have to move for. I'd be moving up in life, and worst case scenario is that it doesn't work and I end up back where I currently am anyway. If I were married and had kids, yeah it would be a different story, wouldn't take the risk.


#4

Bowielee

Bowielee

I don't have anything tying me down either, but my fallback options are... limited.


#5

LittleKagsin

LittleKagsin

I know quite a few people that love to hike and bike in Arizona. I'm not sure about specifically in Tempe, but being outdoors is awesome when in Arizona because it's so wonderfully warm.

I'm also guessing here, but I'll bet that there is a lot of...art there. I say that because Arizona State University is in Tempe and they have a top notch art program.


#6

PatrThom

PatrThom

Do I still have to worry about keeping proof of US citizenship on me at all times in AZ?
Probably depends on how "brown" you are. I wish I could say I was overreacting.

--Patrick


#7

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Arizona is going through a retarded schizophrenic phase right now. A bunch of their resident tinfoil hat politicians are trying to forbid any UN mandates on sustainability.


#8

jwhouk

jwhouk

Tip: Between the months of May and September, DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE.


#9

Baerdog

Baerdog

I grew up in Phoenix so hopefully the following is helpful. Tempe is part of the Phoenix Metro Area and is located pretty much in the center so I may use the terms "Phoenix" and "Tempe" pretty interchangeably.

Tempe is a great part of the city, in my opinion. The parts of it closest to ASU have a lot of young people and housing is affordable. There are a lot of apartment buildings in the area as well as nice, older homes. Tempe's core is a bit older than other parts of Phoenix so the houses tend to not be so cookie cutter and many of the neighborhoods have nice old-growth trees and such. If you have 2-3 other people you want to live with, renting a house is very common.

Another advantage to living in Tempe and being close to ASU is you'll be close to nightlife and restaurants. Mill Avenue is the main street through downtown Tempe and is where many college students and people in their mid-twenties like to go out. Not far from that is Scottsdale which has its own thriving nightlife scene, but tends to be an older, wealthier, sometimes douchier kind of crowd. If you like art and culture, Phoenix is home to the Phoenix Symphony and Herberger Theater and big name theater productions come to ASU's Gammage Auditorium all the time. There are also a number of smaller orchestras and theater companies around the city if you prefer.

Food-wise, if you like Mexican food you'll be in luck. Good Mexican food is really easy to find in the Phoenix as long as you stay away from the chain restaurants. Los Dos Molinos is one of the most famous Mexican places in town, well known for its very excellent and very spicy food. It's almost always busy and they don't take reservations. My favorite joint though is a little hole in the wall called Los Taquitos in Ahwatukee (about 10 miles from ASU). It's delicious and cheap, try the carnitas. Since Phoenix is a major city you can also find just about any kind of cuisine you may want, and Tempe in particular has a good variety. Off the top of my head I would recommend Oregano's for pizza, Little Szechuan for Chinese, Four Peaks for a microbrewery/pub restaurant, Cornish Pastie Company for...Cornish pasties, and the Chuckbox for burgers.

One of my favorite things about Phoenix is how it is surrounded by a lot of little mountain ranges so no matter where you live, you're never too far away from good hiking, mountain biking, and rock climbing areas. In the summer it is very common to drive out of town and go tubing down the Salt River (Bring friends, sunscreen, and a cooler full of cold drinks. Be sure to have a designated driver because the cops will usually check every car leaving the area during the height of the season.) If you have a motorcycle, even better. There are a ton of great little towns up north that are really easy to do a day ride to just to grab some lunch and out of the heat for a while and the scenery is great. If you want to go further out, there is no end to good campgrounds and great natural sights. Obviously there is the Grand Canyon and Painted Desert but you also have the Petrified Forest, Mogollon Rim, Kartchner Caverns (one of my favorites and a very easy day trip from Phoenix) and a ton of others if you just do some research.

Unfortunately, you will need a car. Phoenix does have a bus network but there is only one rail line that starts east of Tempe and goes into downtown Phoenix and it shuts down at midnight. Free parking is very plentiful in the city, usually the only time you will have to pay is if you try to park downtown in Phoenix or one of the suburbs or if you are going to a sports game. Traffic does get pretty slow during rush hour but it's nowhere to the extreme of some places like Los Angeles. Car insurance is mandatory, but cheaper than in California.

All in all, Phoenix may not have the best restaurant scene or the best theater scene or the best nightlife scene of any city in the US but you can find pretty much whatever you might be looking for there if you do your homework. I think it's got a nice balance of big city amenities without the extremely high cost of living and overcrowding of a place like Los Angeles or New York. Yes, the state government is pants-on-head crazy but living in Arizona isn't a post-apocalyptic free for all like the media sometimes likes to paint it as. Hopefully this wall o' text didn't scare you off and had some helpful information for you. If you've got any other questions for me, I'll do my best to answer them.


#10

jwhouk

jwhouk

You forgot that one city park in Phoenix. You know, South Mountain?

Superstitions are always fun to go visit by car. There's a bunch of "ghost towns" on the highway on the way to Roosevelt Dam, northeast of Apache Junction.

And you forgot about the Heart Attack Grill. That'd probably be El Juski's favorite place to visit in the Valley.


#11

Baerdog

Baerdog

My dad's house is about a three minute walk from South Mountain, I know it well. The Supersition Mountains are great hiking also. I have to admit I've never been to the Heart Attack Grill but if you want a great burger you can't go wrong at the Chuckbox down by ASU. You'll just have to settle for not having scantily clad waitresses.


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