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Big welcome to Angels2200!

#1

Dave

Dave

From their website description:

New to Angels 2200? Report Here for Briefing!

Welcome new readers to Angels 2200!


The year 2200, ten years after a Genetic Plague killed almost all of the male population of Earth and its off-world colonies. During the chaos that followed, the colonies rebelled and a resource-desperate Earth is now attempting to bring them back into line.



Angels 2200 joins a squad of raw recruits aboard the old Aurora-class carrier “Outcast” on their mission to put down the revolution in the Risae Asteroid Belt near Mars.


The original concept and writing belongs to Nathaniel Savio. Peter Haynes (AKA Hansagan) was the original illustrator. Peter eventually took on the writing reins also for several years, staying true to Nathaniel’s vision. Because of time consuming life stuff, Peter has decided to take on 2 other illustrators, Jana Hoffmann (AKA Nuriet) from Australia and Kimberly Stewart (AKA Kimmers) to tackle the art when Angels 2200 Part 6 comes to a close.


If you want to know more about the history of the Angels 2200 universe, check out the 7 part History of the Sol System available in the filler section of the archives.
Welcome, welcome, welcome!

edit: Damn! Forgot the link! www.angels2200.com


#2

Cajungal

Cajungal

Hi!


#3



Dusty668

Wow, I'm used to comics I like changing forums and having to follow them, not so used to having them come to me...

That having been said....

YAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!

WB been too long!


#4

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

The year 2200, ten years after a Genetic Plague killed almost all of the male population of Earth and its off-world colonies.
Oh I'm liking this already. :twisted:


#5

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Awwww, Shego's already made friends ^^

Welcome, welcome! Please come in, have some snacks, don't touch the smoking baby :D


#6



Hansagan

Thanks all, and many thanks to Dave :) I've put the word out and hope to have a gradual influx of people shortly.


#7



Dusty668

Hey that was Cora, Kid's sister in the monster feet slippers right?


#8



RocketGirl

I'm used to the old webboard, but I dig this comic like a backhoe, so...here I am! :)


#9



Hansagan

Damn you're fast RG.....do you ever sleep?

Yes that was Cora :)


#10



RocketGirl

Damn you're fast RG.....do you ever sleep?
I actually JUST woke up. Got your message while I was having my morning cup of internet. :cool:


#11

Espy

Espy

Awwww, Shego's already made friends ^^

Welcome, welcome! Please come in, have some snacks, don't touch the smoking baby :D
It's true. I'm a biter.


#12



rabbitgod

Awwww, Shego's already made friends ^^

Welcome, welcome! Please come in, have some snacks, don't touch the smoking baby :D
It's true. I'm a biter.[/QUOTE]

The trick is to dangle a cigarrette in front of his face with one hand. With the other hand you have about 1.2265 seconds of back pat time. No rubbing/stroking/scratching. And god help you if you make any suddenm movements.


#13



Kimmers

Thanks all, and many thanks to Dave :) I've put the word out and hope to have a gradual influx of people shortly.
Yup! I'm here! I'm here! I've been following you for this many years, I might as well drag my butt over here as well! ;)

Hello Half Forums!!


#14

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Hmmm... I just took a look at the comic proper.

While admittedly the idea of all men dying makes me as a member of the dangly-bit sex a little bit frightful... I'm likin' what I'm seeing so far.

I'll be reading on, and I just might bookmark as well ;)


#15



RocketGirl

While admittedly the idea of all men dying makes me as a member of the dangly-bit sex a little bit frightful... I'm likin' what I'm seeing so far.
...which brings up questions I've had for quite some time, actually.

I mean, I came to this comic kinna late; only found out about it because I was on the Star Wars Fan Film board over at TFN, where Hansagan posted the Angels2200 prequel movie, and by that time the comic had gotten pretty far. It's possible the questions I have about their disease were answered outside the comic, but I wasn't around to hear 'em.

Like...how is the distinction made between males and females? Does the disease go after chromosomes, does it go after hormones, what? Would, say, a eunuch be spared if it went after hormones instead of chromosomes? Or is it simply having XY genetics that makes one die? (Come to think of it, if it's genetics and not hormones, I wonder how many cross-dressers and transsexuals were suddenly dead and outed by the plague! Hah!)
It seems at least ONE male survived on Earth--Whiskey's father--and certainly a male has survived on the colonies...what was the difference that caused such an immunity, I wonder...

...maybe I should start asking this in it own thread, neh? :)


#16



Soliloquy

...maybe I should start asking this in it own thread, neh? :)
Sounds like a plan to me!


#17

fade

fade

Why are writers always so keen on killing off all the males?


#18

Cajungal

Cajungal

Because they're bad. :mad: Shame on all of you!


#19



RocketGirl

What...you don't think that's a possibility? Seems to me that it'd come up at some point. Even if they weren't killed off, it makes you wonder what the reaction would be to that fact, yanno?


#20

Gusto

Gusto

I think it targets penises.

Specifically.


#21



RocketGirl

But I dun wanna die just because I had the misfortune of being born with the wrong set of genetics.
Well, who would? I'm sure folks with diabetes or sickle cell anemia or whatever don't much care for it either. (Actually, I'm not sure if diabetes is genetic, but you get the idea...)

Doesn't make it any less of an interesting question, I'd say.


#22

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Ame, I really don't think she's gonna get it without spelling it out.


#23

Dave

Dave

One thing you should know, that question is pertinent to a few members of this board. We have some transgendered users and a number of gay/bisexuals. So your question is very thought provoking and worthwhile to explore.

I wonder how much of the science they've fleshed out behind the scenes.


#24

fade

fade

Ame, I really don't think she's gonna get it without spelling it out.
Actually I think she made a damn good point. The 50% of the population born with the right genitals don't really want to die just because of that either.


#25

Dave

Dave

Ame, I really don't think she's gonna get it without spelling it out.
Actually I think she made a damn good point. The 50% of the population born with the right genitals don't really want to die just because of that either.[/QUOTE]

^ This.

My penis and I want to go on living, TYVM.


#26

Dave

Dave

Ame, I really don't think she's gonna get it without spelling it out.
Actually I think she made a damn good point. The 50% of the population born with the right genitals don't really want to die just because of that either.[/quote]

It is a point, sure. No one wants to die. But my point was that I'd hate to have everything I've done and worked toward be in vein because of simple genetics. The one thing I cannot change no matter how many hormones I take or surgeries I undergo. That this 'killing device' would deem me male regardless of what I've done and how I view and portray myself. I know that it is a simple scientific fact, but it still makes me sad.[/QUOTE]

You'll always be a lady to us, Ame.


#27

figmentPez

figmentPez

Oh I'm liking this already. :twisted:
I'm honestly surprised you haven't already read Angels 2200.


#28



RocketGirl

One thing you should know, that question is pertinent to a few members of this board. We have some transgendered users and a number of gay/bisexuals. So your question is very thought provoking and worthwhile to explore.
Well, hell, I'm a lesbian my own darn self, so...I'm not indifferent to LGBT issues, I assure you!

And I certainly wasn't bringing up the question in order to offend or hurt anyone...hell, it was basically an afterthought, really; it occurred to me while I was wondering about the other question, the hormones-vs-genetics question...it was a natural progression that I'm surprised hadn't occurred to me before, actually.

I wonder how much of the science they've fleshed out behind the scenes.
Heck, I'm still wondering about the colonies and their history. I seem to remember a timeline being mentioned, but... Well, it doesn't come up much in the comic itself, so I don't really know much about why they're out there and what they stand for.

Actually I think she made a damn good point. The 50% of the population born with the right genitals don't really want to die just because of that either.
Yeah; a plague like this is gonna be unfair to someone, no matter how you look at it.


#29



Cuyval Dar

I can get behind this, presuming that this plague can't kill off male fishheads.
:ackbar:


#30



Hansagan

Actually I did ask resident Biologist Chaz if he could come up with some science behind the disease....I may try to reword it into our histories.

And post said histories at some point :)


#31



RocketGirl

I can get behind this, presuming that this plague can't kill off male fishheads.
:ackbar:
Roly-poly fishheads?


#32

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

Ame, I really don't think she's gonna get it without spelling it out.
RG is kinda renowned for her "subtle as a brick through plateglass" approach to most things, bless her l'il pointed head. *grins*

I dig the philisophical conversation that popped up though. It raises a point that I've considered a couple times during the course of reading the comic: if one were transgendered (post-op, just as a study), would the virus be lethal? Less lethal? Potentially disfiguring (The one fan-comic that's been accepted as more-or-less canon showed an image of a man, covered in HEINOUS boils and whatnot)?

... In retrospect, I might have been more morbid than I thought...


#33



RocketGirl

RG is kinda renowned for her "subtle as a brick through plateglass" approach to most things, bless her l'il pointed head. *grins*
Aww, there've been times when I've been quite subtle...and people miss it entirely.

Bah! Humans! *spit*

;)


#34

strawman

strawman

I can get behind this, presuming that this plague can't kill off male fishheads.
:ackbar:
Roly-poly fishheads?[/QUOTE]

I took a fishhead out to see a movie
didn't have to pay to get it in!


#35



Dusty668

It would actually be fairly straight forward to put a killing trigger on something like the gene to produce testosterone instead of androgen. Have it do something like weaken the vascular system, or perhaps shut off the marrow system. Something like this could allow a "lucky few" to survive under very protected conditions to have a few last children with families.

The medical side of the comic was not explored much other than prosthesis and first aid for jail breaks.

However, the prosthesis side would show a much advanced understanding of the human bodies rejection of foreign implants than we have now, so a standard immune system shut off would not seem to be as deadly as it is now. Depending on how you handle it, that may be what you want though.

Boils would indicate a sloughing of the dermal layer, this would be a great terror weapon, and with possible limited guys with prosthetic skin, this would work great.


#36

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Welcome, welcome guys!

Come on in, the water's fine!


#37

Dave

Dave

It would actually be fairly straight forward to put a killing trigger on something like the gene to produce testosterone instead of androgen. Have it do something like weaken the vascular system, or perhaps shut off the marrow system. Something like this could allow a "lucky few" to survive under very protected conditions to have a few last children with families.

The medical side of the comic was not explored much other than prosthesis and first aid for jail breaks.

However, the prosthesis side would show a much advanced understanding of the human bodies rejection of foreign implants than we have now, so a standard immune system shut off would not seem to be as deadly as it is now. Depending on how you handle it, that may be what you want though.

Boils would indicate a sloughing of the dermal layer, this would be a great terror weapon, and with possible limited guys with prosthetic skin, this would work great.
Did I mention that we have a lot of very smart people here, too? We do some things here using nothing but SCIENCE!!


#38



Chibibar

I would like to live too..... here are some ideas.

Scenario One:
The disease target the y chromosome. This of course would effect anyone with a y chromosome including women with XXy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter's_syndrome but since it is in the future (year 2200?) there could be a technology to replace the y with an X so people who chose to change gender will be safe (it is a possibility) but this also could mean that the human race would not die off either since you could "create" male partners for pro-creation. The downside the disease will kill them off :(

How do they die? I haven't read the story so does it kill them instantly? airborne? contact?

Scenario two:
Instead of y chromosome, maybe it attack certain genetic sequence or hormones. Certain level could be deadly and cause them to die out. This of course, can kill some women off who may produce some level of those hormones (it is possible) same for genetic sequence (this is a pure guess on my part, I'm sure some of our forumite scientist can give a better scenario)


#39



RocketGirl

Well, who knows what form the plague took? Heck, for all we know it was actually a seeding of nanobots which would enter the body, seek out testicles, and turn sperm vicious. Carnivorous. :D
And nerd-boy on the enemy vessel at the end of the last chapter has the transmitter bracelet that sends the deactivation code which keeps him safe, perhaps.

Okay, okay, that's silly...but there'z no reason to assume that it was an actual virus or nuffin'. There are a lot of interesting things you could do with a nanobot plague.
For example, I once had this HORRIBLE idea for a movie: aliens decide to invade Earth, but rather than conquer it militarily, they seed Earth with nanobots which enter the human body and reorganize the physical structure of everybody in their sleep, so that when they wake up they find that they look EXACTLY...like William Shatner. The horror! The horror!

...I wuz gunna call it, Invasion of the Body Shatners. :D


#40



Chibibar

Well, who knows what form the plague took? Heck, for all we know it was actually a seeding of nanobots which would enter the body, seek out testicles, and turn sperm vicious. Carnivorous. :D
And nerd-boy on the enemy vessel at the end of the last chapter has the transmitter bracelet that sends the deactivation code which keeps him safe, perhaps.

Okay, okay, that's silly...but there'z no reason to assume that it was an actual virus or nuffin'. There are a lot of interesting things you could do with a nanobot plague.
For example, I once had this HORRIBLE idea for a movie: aliens decide to invade Earth, but rather than conquer it militarily, they seed Earth with nanobots which enter the human body and reorganize the physical structure of everybody in their sleep, so that when they wake up they find that they look EXACTLY...like William Shatner. The horror! The horror!

...I wuz gunna call it, Invasion of the Body Shatners. :D
LOL...

Nanobot would be interesting. I guess than you could have an "angst" scientist who don't get any girl to make something like this to kill off his "competition"


#41



RocketGirl

Nanobot would be interesting. I guess than you could have an "angst" scientist who don't get any girl to make something like this to kill off his "competition"
Heh. Perhaps.

I seem to remember there being allusions to this plague being not natural, that it was set upon humanity by...somebody. Maybe I'm wrong, but...


#42

KEM

KEM

I would like to live too..... here are some ideas.

Scenario One:
The disease target the y chromosome. This of course would effect anyone with a y chromosome including women with XXy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter's_syndrome but since it is in the future (year 2200?) there could be a technology to replace the y with an X so people who chose to change gender will be safe (it is a possibility) but this also could mean that the human race would not die off either since you could "create" male partners for pro-creation. The downside the disease will kill them off :(

How do they die? I haven't read the story so does it kill them instantly? airborne? contact?

Scenario two:
Instead of y chromosome, maybe it attack certain genetic sequence or hormones. Certain level could be deadly and cause them to die out. This of course, can kill some women off who may produce some level of those hormones (it is possible) same for genetic sequence (this is a pure guess on my part, I'm sure some of our forumite scientist can give a better scenario)
It's been described as a "genetic plague" which I have always took to meaning that it attacked the Y chromosome. I don't think there was indication as to the transmission method, but it did spread through all of human space and did so very quickly. So quickly that 95% of the male population was dead before a cure was found. Death from the plague wasn't instantaneous but it was quick.

All of that was off the top of my head. As Han commented above, there are some details that are a bit fuzzy that may need to be retconed in future, but that's the general gist of it. The Divided Souls fancomic that Vexus is writing will deal with the origin of the plague, so that's worth checking out as well.


#43

Dave

Dave

My question is how that other 5% did survive it.
Without having been able to read ALL of the background yet, I think it may have to do with the fact that a space-faring race would be difficult to wipe out unless it was somehow nano-bot related to go off at a predisposed time. It would be nearly impossible to kill an entire gender even on a closed planet like Earth because of remote locations unless it was a persistent virus or effect.


#44



Chibibar

My question is how that other 5% did survive it.
Without having been able to read ALL of the background yet, I think it may have to do with the fact that a space-faring race would be difficult to wipe out unless it was somehow nano-bot related to go off at a predisposed time. It would be nearly impossible to kill an entire gender even on a closed planet like Earth because of remote locations unless it was a persistent virus or effect.[/QUOTE]

Yea. I figure if a remote colony has no physical contact with the home planet could survive (if via virus or nanobots) now if it is magical, then it likely to be 100% unless some have protection from harmful magic ;)

or psionic powers (like Q in Star Trek or that being in TNG where his will can kill off an entire race) then well..... we are screwed.


#45



RocketGirl

My question is how that other 5% did survive it.
They washed their hands A LOT.


#46

Dave

Dave

My question is how that other 5% did survive it.
They washed their hands A LOT.[/QUOTE]

In FIRE!


#47



Dusty668

Yah, nanos would be the best way, or something that was contagious for like a year with no symptoms, then BLAMMO triggered death in like a few hours.


#48



RocketGirl

My question is how that other 5% did survive it.
They washed their hands A LOT.[/quote]

In FIRE![/quote]

I touch the fire and it freezes me.
I look into it and it's black.
Why can't I feel?
My skin should crack and peel.
I want the fire back!
[/quote]

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it


#49



Hansagan

All will be made clear(er) in the first 5 comics of the relaunch.

You have to remember, this comic was conceived by two guys with little to no knowledge of advanced biology and/or diseases. The plague was more of a kick off point to establish the female universe, I don't think we ever actually thought too hard about how it would work.

Until we opened the first forums that is, and you lot came along :)


#50

Jake

Jake

I come back to the forum after a few weeks and find new people AND science talk? Sweet!

I'd say your best bet for the plague would be a benign but incredibly transmissible virus that activates a deadly but non-transmissible dormant retrovirus on the Y chromosome. Much of the "junk DNA" of the human genome is composed of retroviruses that have been overcome and incorporated. And they're just lying there. Waiting.

My question is how that other 5% did survive it.
Push up bras and hooker boots. I have a knack for telling people what they want to hear.


#51

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Say, how long ago was this plague?

Are the historical sources on the matter reliable? Or is it possible that in some kind of gendercidal frenzy all men were killed to set up a gynocracy?

...asketh the Cultural History minor who's been told far too many times to maintain healthy scepticism of all sources.


#52



Hansagan

Mr Ranger, I direct you to the Angels Timeline :)

http://coldcatstudios.org/angels/angels2200_timeline.pdf


#53

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Oh, so it's that recent. Nevermind then ;)


#54



Cuyval Dar

I am seriously impressed with this. You have certainly earned a spot in my bookmarks bar, right after PA, LICD & QC.


#55



Cuyval Dar

Just finished the archive, and I can't wait for the strip to start up again.


#56



Hansagan

I am seriously impressed with this. You have certainly earned a spot in my bookmarks bar, right after PA, LICD & QC.
Quality company indeed :) Thank you, very good to hear.


#57

Troll

Troll

Welcome to Halforums! I'm a Troll, and I'll be handling most of the trolling duties for your new forum. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll answer them as soon as possible. In the meantime, please compile a list of topics you find aggravating or offensive, so that I may begin harrassing you. Thanks, and enjoy your stay!


#58



Dusty668

From what I've seen of the comics, the main points would be the ships are made out of wood by Amish space craftsmen, all of the outfits are at a minimum 15 layers thick, and half of the women wear goatees on Tuesdays and Thursdays and the other half on Monday and Wednesday. Fridays are open for anyone, and weekends are days to go buy more facial hair.


#59



Kitty Sinatra

You'll always be a lady to us, Ame.
I'm not sure I'd describe her as a 'lady'. She seems a little wild for such a delicate word.


#60



JediBubbles

Ah, but that's the only kind of lady Angels has, Gruebeard! Even Kimmers, and she's got the whole "Mom" thing going on. ^_^


#61



Zumbo Prime

Question - what's the update schedule this year?


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