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Canada is going with plastic money

Nov 17, 2011#1

Chibibar

And we are not talking Debit/Credit Card. Actual money printed on special plastic with built in security which will make it harder to counterfiet.

http://news.discovery.com/tech/canada-plastic-bills-111116.html

Nov 17, 2011#2

Adammon

The polymer bills I thought would feel a lot more plastic, but they're not half bad. The see through portions are somewhat dumb, but from a security standpoint very difficult to counterfeit. Still launders well. (In the laundry sense, not in the hide money sense)

Nov 17, 2011#3

Gusto

Have you seen these, Adam? They sound neat as long as they still fold in my wallet well.

Nov 17, 2011#4

Chibibar

I can see this happening with the paper money here. I post a thread about coin dollar. While we spend MILLIONS on them, they were never popular mainly cause the bill version are still in use. I think this plastic could be a good way to keep the paper version of the money in the market longer and save money in the long run.

Nov 17, 2011#5

blotsfan

Nov 17, 2011#6

Adammon

Gusto said:
Have you seen these, Adam? They sound neat as long as they still fold in my wallet well.

My wife had some Australian 'plastic money' ready to go. I expected it to feel like Tim Horton's gift cards except thinner, but the feel is more like a brand new cloth bill, just a bit smoother. The translucent bits will entertain you for hours. Careful with how ATMs take the new bills though. Because they're less rough, the catch on some ATMS may not pull or distribute them very well. I wouldn't be putting $50s or asking for $50s from ATMs for another couple months.

Nov 17, 2011#7

Chibibar

Adammon said:
My wife had some Australian 'plastic money' ready to go. I expected it to feel like Tim Horton's gift cards except thinner, but the feel is more like a brand new cloth bill, just a bit smoother. The translucent bits will entertain you for hours. Careful with how ATMs take the new bills though. Because they're less rough, the catch on some ATMS may not pull or distribute them very well. I wouldn't be putting $50s or asking for $50s from ATMs for another couple months.

Can you use it as a weapon?

Nov 17, 2011#8

Adammon

Chibibar said:
Can you use it as a weapon?

Tim Hortons Gift Cards make excellent shuriken if their edges are filed down.

Nov 17, 2011#9

Chibibar

Adammon said:
Tim Hortons Gift Cards make excellent shuriken if their edges are filed down.

Dang nabit! now I want Tim Hortons

Nov 17, 2011#10

Adammon

That's good!

Nov 17, 2011#11

Chibibar

Adammon said:
That's good!

That is bad. I haven't had in years

Texas is a long ways to Canada

Nov 17, 2011#12

Adammon

Chibibar said:
Texas is a long ways to Canada

That's good!

Nov 17, 2011#13

Emrys

You just have to ask, Chibi, and I'm sure the Canadian Halforumites would send you a can.

True, you would have to build your own filtration system to purify the water and dissolve the cocaine to make it 100% authentic but I'm sure you could come up with something.

Nov 17, 2011#14

checkeredhat

Haven't seen any yet, cause its only the 100s for now. They've been talking about doing this for forever now, I'm pretty excited to finally get my hands on it.

Nov 17, 2011#15

Bowielee

And you Canadians thought that you caught flack for having play money BEFORE...

Nov 17, 2011#16

strawman

I'm wondering how many people will complain when it curls and distorts in their car on a hot summer day.

Nov 17, 2011#17

fade

stienman said:
I'm wondering how many people will complain when it curls and distorts in their car on a hot summer day.

That's how I lost my copy of "Bad".

Nov 17, 2011#18

Krisken

I wish I was Canadian so I could shuffle my money.

Nov 17, 2011#19

strawman

Looks like they're made out of polypropylene film, which has a melting point of 160C. It would probably start deforming at around 130C - well above boiling, but it can get that hot on top of the dashboard on a hot day.

But the real reason they're doing it is to discourage all those canadian billionaires from burning money during the winger to heat their mansions.

Their long, cold, dark winters.

Oh, and increase their dependence on domestic oil.

Nov 17, 2011#20

checkeredhat

stienman said:
I'm wondering how many people will complain when it curls and distorts in their car on a hot summer day.

......Canada.

(seriously though, Australia's had this stuff for years, and it hasn't been an issue there.)

Nov 18, 2011#21

Frankie Williamson

And when Australia isn't flooding it's catching fire.

Nov 18, 2011#22

DarkAudit

stienman said:
But the real reason they're doing it is to discourage all those canadian billionaires from burning money during the winger to heat their mansions.

Their long, cold, dark winters.

Why aren't the billionaires headed south like the rest of the country? I swear the entire eastern half of Ontario is making it's way through Morgantown this month.

If I could score a Tim Hortons franchise off of I-79 I'd be a millionaire by Xmas.

Nov 18, 2011#23

Frankie Williamson

I'm a Canadian, and I don't understand the nearly jingoistic obsession this country has with fucking Tim Hortons. They make shitty coffee and awful donuts.

It's so bad that Krispy Kreme, who make equally shitty coffee but donuts that absolutely demolish Tim Hortons shitty fare, tried to open up here and they got shit on by everyone. Not because of the quality but because they're Americans trying to kill the Canadian dynasty Tim Hortons.

Fuck Tim Hortons and their shitty rims that you roll.

Nov 18, 2011#24

gargoyle_eva

Curls up on a hot summer day...yeah it sorta does. and if you roll it up for....ahhhh... taking powdered medication nasally.... it stays curled for a while. But it is fairly easy to just re-flatten it after. Best advantage over old paper money...it survives the washer and dryer!

Nov 18, 2011#25

checkeredhat

DarkAudit said:
Why aren't the billionaires headed south like the rest of the country? I swear the entire eastern half of Ontario is making it's way through Morgantown this month.
If I could score a Tim Hortons franchise off of I-79 I'd be a millionaire by Xmas.

Probably Christmas shopping. A lot of things are way cheaper in the States.
Added at: 12:44

Frankie Williamson said:
I'm a Canadian, and I don't understand the nearly jingoistic obsession this country has with fucking Tim Hortons. They make shitty coffee and awful donuts.
It's so bad that Krispy Kreme, who make equally shitty coffee but donuts that absolutely demolish Tim Hortons shitty fare, tried to open up here and they got shit on by everyone. Not because of the quality but because they're Americans trying to kill the Canadian dynasty Tim Hortons.
Fuck Tim Hortons and their shitty rims that you roll.

I like Tim Hortons coffee. (Not really a fan of their donuts though. I just dislike donuts in general)

Nov 18, 2011#26

Gusto

I don't really like Tim Horton's coffee but it's a safe known entity that's easy to return to.

Nov 18, 2011#27

fade

checkeredhat said:
(Not really a fan of their donuts though. I just dislike donuts in general)

Nov 18, 2011#28

doomdragon6

Am I the only one that noticed the multicolored dick on the bill pictured in the article?

Nov 18, 2011#29

Dei

I'm really not a fan of Krispy Kreme, way too sweet for me. I like my doughnuts to be somewhat bland. (I'm a weirdo

)

Nov 18, 2011#30

MindDetective

Dei said:
I'm really not a fan of Krispy Kreme, way too sweet for me. I like my doughnuts to be somewhat bland. (I'm a weirdo )

No, you're not.

Nov 18, 2011#31

Adammon

Give me Honey Crullers or Death!

Nov 18, 2011#32

filmfanatic

Dunkin' Donuts has the superior doughnuts.

Nov 18, 2011#33

checkeredhat

Dei said:
I'm really not a fan of Krispy Kreme, way too sweet for me. I like my doughnuts to be somewhat bland. (I'm a weirdo )

This. I don't get how people eat donuts, especially in the morning.
Added at: 00:42

fade said:

There a few donuts I like; old fashioned plain, and pumpkin donuts, but thats pretty much it. The rest is way too sugary for me.
Added at: 00:47

doomdragon6 said:
Am I the only one that noticed the multicolored dick on the bill pictured in the article?

That's the East Block of the House of Parliament. If your penis has an antenna on it, see a doctor cause that can't be good.

Nov 19, 2011#34

Krisken

I love chocolate iced long john's. No fulling. Really like jelly donuts too. What the hell, I like donuts, but prefer them to be baked by an actual bakery, not some mass produced schlub fest.

Nov 19, 2011#35

jwhouk

So that means you don't like Kwik Trip's crullers and Glazers, hm?

I'm thinking the popularity of Tim Horton's is due to two things: a pretty good selection of items on their menu, and scarcity.

Nov 19, 2011#36

Gusto

jwhouk said:
So that means you don't like Kwik Trip's crullers and Glazers, hm?

I'm thinking the popularity of Tim Horton's is due to two things: a pretty good selection of items on their menu, and scarcity.

I guess scarcity is a relative term. I can name 3 situations in my city alone were I can see a Tim Horton's from another Tim Horton's.

Nov 19, 2011#37

jwhouk

I meant scarcity down here in the USA. If you don't share a common border with Ontario or Quebec, you probably don't have a Timmie's nearby.

Nov 19, 2011#38

checkeredhat

Yeah, there's more than 3,000 locations accross Canada. More locations than McDonalds, even. Then again, there's something like 11,000 Starbucks accross the US, so maybe that's what jwouk means.

But finding a Tim Horton's in Canada, at least throughout where 90% of the population resides, is as easy as finding porn on the internet. I read earlier this year that 96% of coffees sold in Canada (ie: not homebrewed), are sold at Tim Horton's. This is why they are trying to expand internationally, and why they're focusing on expanding their menus in Canada rather than adding new stores. with 96% of the market already cornered, they can't expand further in Canada. I'm not sure how they did their research so I'm sure there is a margin of error there, but unless the margin of error is like 30%, that number is mindblowing.
4% of the coffee in Canada is sold by Starbucks, On the Go, Coffee Time, Country Style, Java Stop, Krispy Kreme, McDonalds, and every other restaurant or cafe you can think of. 96% is Tim Hortons. Its insane.

I also remember reading, back when Tim Hortons was owned by Wendy's that when Dave Thomas died Wendy's had a really bad year and only turned a profit that year because of Tim Horton's; which had even less of a presence in the States then than it does now.

Honestly, I think its largely because it was started by a Canadian NHL player, and very quickly and successfully attached itself to that tradition. So it was already there in the 70s, a time when the Canadian identity was suddenly a very important ideal, (see: The Cold War, The Summit Series, SCTV, the Canadian Content Law). So it quickly managed to engrain itself into Canadiana. All this before Starbucks and Coffee Time were even on the scene. The fact that it beat Starbucks and Coffee Time to the Canadian market by nearly twenty years helps too. After a certain point, its really nothing to do with quality, its just blind dedication because its been there so long, its just an inescapable part of the Canadian landscape.

Its kind of like the dedication to Molson and Labatts you encounter throughout most of Canada.

Nov 19, 2011#39

ElJuski

Gusto said:
I guess scarcity is a relative term. I can name 3 situations in my city alone were I can see a Tim Horton's from another Tim Horton's.

The Tim Horton Triangle Effect. I heard about it once in science class.

Nov 19, 2011#40

Frankie Williamson

checkeredhat said:
So it quickly managed to engrain itself into Canadiana. All this before Starbucks and Coffee Time were even on the scene. The fact that it beat Starbucks and Coffee Time to the Canadian market by nearly twenty years helps too. After a certain point, its really nothing to do with quality, its just blind dedication because its been there so long, its just an inescapable part of the Canadian landscape.

Its kind of like the dedication to Molson and Labatts you encounter throughout most of Canada.

A donut shop is such a shitty thing to base cultural identity on.

Nov 19, 2011#41

checkeredhat

I don't disagree by any stretch. But I think Canada was grasping for straws during that time to find its culture, and that's why our cultural identity is based pretty much solely around stereotypes Americans gave us.

Nov 19, 2011#42

fade

Gusto said:
I guess scarcity is a relative term. I can name 3 situations in my city alone were I can see a Tim Horton's from another Tim Horton's.

That's the way Dunkin' Donuts was in Boston. I can think of several places where this is true there. Despite being called "Dunkin' Donuts", they seemed to sell more coffee than anything else.

Nov 19, 2011#43

checkeredhat

I don't think we even have Dunkin' Donuts up here anymore.

Nov 19, 2011#44

Null

Just as a side-rant, does it bother anyone else that Dunkin' Donuts doesn't actually sell donuts meant for dunking anymore? They had the "old-fashioned" which had, like a Q shape, for dunking into your coffee. I know they stopped selling them a long time ago, but dang, man.

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