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No, not that guy. Or even that guy. But THIS guy:



What do you think? This video was made in 2006 and he was promoted after that when the videos were already common knowledge. So why now? If they knew about this before, why are they just now doing this to him? Personally, even though some of the humor is targeted at homosexuals, it also targets women, himself, the Navy uniforms, masturbation and a host of other things. I can see where it would possibly hold up his promotion, but what other than DADT being repealed change between then and now? And are we going to go back & investigate everything people said?

He's getting a lot of support from the men & women under his command. They know him as someone with a sharp sense of humor who isn't afraid to say what's on his mind.

What are your thoughts?

If this video has been around that long, this might just be the reason someone else is using.

I was an enlisted sailor at the time of Tailhook. This guy had to have been around at about the same time. Everyone was walking on eggshells back then. Do you think they had forgotten? Do you think they had FORGIVEN? As much as we had "this will ruin your career" drummed into us on a routine basis, he should have known better.

But why bring it out 4 years later, after he had been promoted and the ship was getting ready to deploy in a hostile environment? The video was never hidden and was known and accepted by all at the time and in the proceeding years. Now to go back and toss some sort of revisionist black mark against him just seems wrong. And Tailhook was a bit different in that this video is an obvious attempt at humor while Tailhook was sexual assault. And who is it that should have forgotten and forgiven?

Interesting... So who brought this all out into the open and what grudge did they have?

It's politics. It doesn't matter that it was out in the public years ago. All someone needs to do is bang on the discrimination drum, and a whole marching band will appear, with cheerleaders in skimpy outfits.

What's changed between now and then is that someone wants him out more now than they did back then. That's all.

Dave said:

But why bring it out 4 years later, after he had been promoted and the ship was getting ready to deploy in a hostile environment? The video was never hidden and was known and accepted by all at the time and in the proceeding years. Now to go back and toss some sort of revisionist black mark against him just seems wrong. And Tailhook was a bit different in that this video is an obvious attempt at humor while Tailhook was sexual assault. And who is it that should have forgotten and forgiven?

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To be honest... "they". That amorphous mix of the media, the general public, and rabble-rousers who are never satisfied with anything ever.

Although Tailhook itself *was* about sexual assault, the response afterwards was what I was getting at. Anything and everything that had even the remotest possibility of creating a "hostile work environment" was taboo and could get anyone involved canned. You didn't ever have your entire day's work postponed for a special "sexual harassment standdown" day of training?

I am shocked that the 2 female officers in the shower were not drummed out of the Navy under DADT.

It shouldn't have taken this long for him to have been relieved of his command, there is no excuse for a CO or any other officer to make a video like that. This is the definition of conduct unbecoming, and I am sure there are other violations present.

Officers of that rank need to hold themselves to higher standards. Yes, he wasn't the CO back then, but he was only 1 or 2 steps away IIRC.