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http://www.newscientist.com/article...trust-what-the-lhc-is-really-looking-for.html

Basically, a cursory glance at the modern state of particle physics, what the LHC hopes to find, and a (relatively) layman's explanation of what it all means. Good article!

... and I am once again reminded why I went to Arts instead. Thank you

Snarkiness aside, it was an interesting read, though I admit it went a tad over my head. Physics was never my cup of tea.

Before finishing reading this wall of text, I want to know. What is the point of this? How can this help humanity anyhow? And specially, will this enable space-travel?

Green_Lantern said:

Before finishing reading this wall of text, I want to know. What is the point of this? How can this help humanity anyhow? And specially, will this enable space-travel?

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Physics has helped mankind since its inception. You know all those wacky things like TV, phones, electricity, etc...? Yeah, you can thank physics.

I think it may create "food replicator" or matter replicator. The only I say that is if we know how the molecule bind/unbind in all levels, I'm sure someone will figure out a way to build almost "anything" out of atoms.

(naturally assume we discover the energy source that is require to even accomplish this)

Struggling to make C's in college-level physics: mechanics
<---me

Shannow said:

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We are the Technocracy, and we approve this message... and remember, only you can prevent Paradox, don't be a Reality Deviant.

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I want that t-shirt, but all the folks around here are too uptight. It'd cause raucousness. I would probably have to go to an Academic Integrity course. Science is serious business.

Hi Chaz.

Shannow said:

Hi Chaz.

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Werd.

The LHC, further proof that that the majority of science consists of taking things apart, blowing them up, or blowing things up in order to take them apart.

figmentPez said:

The LHC, further proof that that the majority of science consists of taking things apart, blowing them up, or blowing things up in order to take them apart.

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"Why do I take this job? Because scenery change, the money is good, and they let me use explosives" That is what popped in my head when I read your statement

Violent Drunk Ray Romano;297715][quote=Green_Lantern said:

Before finishing reading this wall of text, I want to know. What is the point of this? How can this help humanity anyhow? And specially, will this enable space-travel?

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Physics has helped mankind since its inception. You know all those wacky things like TV, phones, electricity, etc...? Yeah, you can thank physics.[/QUOTE]

And don't forget that you can't predict that sort of thing. Without physicists doing wacky things with electromagnetism with no conceivable application, Maxwell couldn't have figured out the laws of electromagnetism (also without an immediately apparent application). Yet without Maxwell, absolutely nothing the slightest bit complex relying on electricity could ever have been built.

The point is, with science, the applications are frequently a century or more down the line, but when they happen, they are huge.

Zarvox;297996][quote=Violent Drunk Ray Romano;297715][quote=Green_Lantern said:

Before finishing reading this wall of text, I want to know. What is the point of this? How can this help humanity anyhow? And specially, will this enable space-travel?

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Physics has helped mankind since its inception. You know all those wacky things like TV, phones, electricity, etc...? Yeah, you can thank physics.[/QUOTE]

And don't forget that you can't predict that sort of thing. Without physicists doing wacky things with electromagnetism with no conceivable application, Maxwell couldn't have figured out the laws of electromagnetism (also without an immediately apparent application). Yet without Maxwell, absolutely nothing the slightest bit complex relying on electricity could ever have been built.

The point is, with science, the applications are frequently a century or more down the line, but when they happen, they are huge.[/QUOTE]
I am not saying is not usefull, but I wanted to know if I was suppose to here with my mind saying "this interesting" or "this interesting and scy-fi!" \o/

Zarvox;297996][quote=Violent Drunk Ray Romano;297715][quote=Green_Lantern said:

Before finishing reading this wall of text, I want to know. What is the point of this? How can this help humanity anyhow? And specially, will this enable space-travel?

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Physics has helped mankind since its inception. You know all those wacky things like TV, phones, electricity, etc...? Yeah, you can thank physics.[/quote]

And don't forget that you can't predict that sort of thing. Without physicists doing wacky things with electromagnetism with no conceivable application, Maxwell couldn't have figured out the laws of electromagnetism (also without an immediately apparent application). Yet without Maxwell, absolutely nothing the slightest bit complex relying on electricity could ever have been built.

The point is, with science, the applications are frequently a century or more down the line, but when they happen, they are huge.[/QUOTE]

I mean downright to it, that's the point of science. However, much of the public doesn't even realize that most academic/ nonprofit scientific studies are funded by you! And writing up a grant proposal and getting a grant accepted is no easy task! These grants have to have a very, very, very precise point of the implications of the research.

LHC. That's the thing that's going to destroy the world, right?

Only if you think "The Onion" has a good crossword section.

I hope this brings us closer to figuring out what happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object.

I still think about that....alone....in the dark.

LordRavage said:

I hope this brings us closer to figuring out what happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object.

I still think about that....alone....in the dark.

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Einstein already said you'd get a black hole.

Einstein was bad at math...Tell me another one Shark guy!

Zarvox;297996][quote=Violent Drunk Ray Romano;297715][quote=Green_Lantern said:

Before finishing reading this wall of text, I want to know. What is the point of this? How can this help humanity anyhow? And specially, will this enable space-travel?

Click to expand...

Physics has helped mankind since its inception. You know all those wacky things like TV, phones, electricity, etc...? Yeah, you can thank physics.[/QUOTE]

And don't forget that you can't predict that sort of thing. Without physicists doing wacky things with electromagnetism with no conceivable application, Maxwell couldn't have figured out the laws of electromagnetism (also without an immediately apparent application). Yet without Maxwell, absolutely nothing the slightest bit complex relying on electricity could ever have been built.

The point is, with science, the applications are frequently a century or more down the line, but when they happen, they are huge.[/QUOTE]

Professor Mode, ACTIVATED:
Maxwell didn't. Maxwell is mostly responsible for bringing together the works of three other famous scientists into one cohesive mass. He put Faraday's Law together with Ampere's Law and Gauss's Law (and an unnamed but known 4th equation). He's most famous for "correcting" Ampere's Law by developing the displacement current (i.e. changing electric fields create magnetic fields--a current flowed even in a cut wire when AC was applied). They are assigned the name Maxwell's Equations mostly in historical reference to an article he published containing the previously discovered laws + his correction.
Professor Mode, DEACTIVATE!

I apologize; I used the wrong verb. I shouldn't have said 'figured out.' I should have said 'brought together in one place.'

I can't even claim credit for the argument anyway. Sagan devotes a whole chapter of The Demon-Haunted World to fleshing that idea out.

I get you. I use a similar argument against people like Michael Crichton who claim that weather and climate are too random and chaotic to model. After all, all of those laws and the constituent laws, including Coulomb's law do a pretty good job of making this here computer work despite the fact that those electrons are highly chaotic. Given enough computer power, we could exactly model a circuit, but the point is it doesn't matter. The macro-laws we already know work well. Lather, rinse, repeat for climate models.

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I get you. I use a similar argument against people like Michael Crichton who claim that weather and climate are too random and chaotic to model. After all, all of those laws and the constituent laws, including Coulomb's law do a pretty good job of making this here computer work despite the fact that those electrons are highly chaotic. Given enough computer power, we could exactly model a circuit, but the point is it doesn't matter. The macro-laws we already know work well. Lather, rinse, repeat for climate models.

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Michael Crichton was a very staunch advocate of complete and total skepticism at all times. I think the book State of Fear is probably his most controversial novel where he delves into that whole 'weather is too random' idea.

I agree with you about the general macro-laws. Look at Newtonian physics. They're not as accurate as Einsteinian ones, but on our macro level they work perfectly fine.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8366405.stm

This is pretty cool too! (I figure it is better than to make a new thread)

basically a chip (no power needed) can test your blood for different type of illness.

Okay my drunk 2 cents worht of lateral thinking away:

If an unstoppable force meats an immovable object I always assumed it would just blow a hole right through it.The object remains unmoved and the force remains unstopped. Everyone is happy and eats some cake. Or does that just spoil everyones fun??

I asked one of my physics teachers that question once and he responded with a simple, "The immovable object would move"

Edit: and I do know that this is a gross oversimplification of what would happen.

In "reality" The Blob would present Juggernaut with a rounded interface, which would probably result in Juggernaut ultimately deflecting his path. The blob would work as ramp in simple machine terms. Everybody's happy, unless Juggernaut's unstoppableness includes direction of travel.