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Sep 11, 2011#1

sixpackshaker

You are a complete piece of shit.

I'll gladly take a ban to call you out on your bullshit ways.

A 9/11 memorial post is no place to start your pussy-assed political rhetoric. I don't like the Patriot Act either, but I would never bring it up there. Mourn the dead and move on with your life.

I am embarrassed that you are a man.

Sep 11, 2011#2

Charlie Don't Surf

u mad?

Sep 11, 2011#3

sixpackshaker

No, I just letting you know that you could die in a car fire, and the world would be a better place.

So grow the fuck up you petulant child.

Sep 11, 2011#4

Charlie Don't Surf

I can't hear you, I was out running in my cool new sneakers

Sep 11, 2011#5

sixpackshaker

You can't hear me because we are on an internet forum.

Sep 11, 2011#6

Hailey Knight

You're giving him what he wants. He likes getting a rise out of people; I won't pretend to understand why. Stop giving him attention.

Also, in before Dave lock/stealth delete.

Sep 11, 2011#7

sixpackshaker

I'll give it to him. I just don't want these replies in the Memorial thread.

Sep 11, 2011#8

Charlie Don't Surf

Look, I just wish we could have had a response to 9/11 that didn't involve throwing billions of dollars down the drain for two wars, or having rampant xenophobia and racism. Is that too much to expect from your country?

And again, in the sacred memorial thread, I am just expressing that I will never forget how the wars in the wake of 9/11 changed this country for the worse. That's a much huger negative impact than the financial and loss of life.

Sep 11, 2011#9

Hailey Knight

You sound like my little cousin when he wasn't allowed to have dessert because he didn't finish his dinner.

He said those exact words.

Sep 11, 2011#10

sixpackshaker

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Look, I just wish we could have had a response to 9/11 that didn't involve throwing billions of dollars down the drain for two wars, or having rampant xenophobia and racism. Is that too much to expect from your country?

And again, in the sacred memorial thread, I am just expressing that I will never forget how the wars in the wake of 9/11 changed this country for the worse. That's a much huger negative impact than the financial and loss of life.

Hear that sound? That is another terrorist suspect getting water boarded.

Sep 11, 2011#11

Zappit

It's easy to condemn America's response - especially when it didn't happen to your own country. The fearful response, that near panic - it's a human response to an unimaginable crime. It's a reaction to something that a human being is not prepared to respond to, could not imagine ever having to respond to. God forbid it happen to anyone else, but we'd likely see similar actions from other nations if they were attacked on such a scope in such a cowardly manner.

Sep 11, 2011#12

Hailey Knight

Charlie, don't play dumb. You knew exactly what you were doing in that thread, and much like your feminism posts having nothing to do with women's rights, it had nothing to do with your sorrow over post-9/11 loss of life or freedoms.

If you really cared about all that, you would've made your own thread to discuss it instead of going into that one, or instead of sixpack ending up making one just for you, just to sate that craving for attention you have.

Sep 11, 2011#13

Charlie Don't Surf

Sep 11, 2011#14

Hailey Knight

And again, more trolling. You have zero interest in the issues you bring up; your only interest is getting a reaction out of people.

Sep 11, 2011#15

sixpackshaker

I really like how they had to spell out every aspect of that joke out for you...

But vampire bats are in South America.

Sep 11, 2011#16

Hailey Knight

sixpackshaker said:
I really like how they had to spell out every aspect of that joke out for you...

That's every political cartoon.

Sep 11, 2011#17

sixpackshaker

Quotemander Prime said:
That's every political cartoon.

Right, and that is what make it funny.

Sep 11, 2011#18

Charlie Don't Surf

Quotemander Prime said:
Charlie, don't play dumb. You knew exactly what you were doing in that thread, and much like your feminism posts having nothing to do with women's rights, it had nothing to do with your sorrow over post-9/11 loss of life or freedoms.

That was honestly my response to this date and all that. Yes, 9/11 was horrible. I'm not going to say that it wasn't. I'm not even saying that we deserved it for our Middle East policies or anything like that. But the loss of basic rights here, the numbers of dead US soldiers, the dead civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan, the financial loss from fighting those two wars, the re-election of George W, and the heightened racism/xenophobia over here. All that bothers me more than the singular event of 9/11. Above everything else, I'm just disappointed that the attacks worked perfectly for Al Queda. I wanted to think we were better than that.

Sep 11, 2011#19

sixpackshaker

What right have you lost in the last 10 years?
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Who is racist now that was not racist 10 years ago?
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Taking an extra hour to get on a plane is not a loss of rights.
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Give me comfort or give me death!

Sep 11, 2011#20

Zappit

Charlie Don't Surf said:
That was honestly my response to this date and all that. Yes, 9/11 was horrible. I'm not going to say that it wasn't. I'm not even saying that we deserved it for our Middle East policies or anything like that. But the loss of basic rights here, the numbers of dead US soldiers, the dead civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan, the financial loss from fighting those two wars, the re-election of George W, and the heightened racism/xenophobia over here. All that bothers me more than the singular event of 9/11. Above everything else, I'm just disappointed that the attacks worked perfectly for Al Queda. I wanted to think we were better than that.

And acting like an immature, petulant child is helping to make your case for a more mature and logical America? Not too classy, Charlie - not the way to make your point, and not the day to do it, either.

Sep 11, 2011#21

Hailey Knight

Charlie Don't Surf said:
That was honestly my response to this date and all that. Yes, 9/11 was horrible. I'm not going to say that it wasn't. I'm not even saying that we deserved it for our Middle East policies or anything like that. But the loss of basic rights here, the numbers of dead US soldiers, the dead civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan, the financial loss from fighting those two wars, the re-election of George W, and the heightened racism/xenophobia over here. All that bothers me more than the singular event of 9/11. Above everything else, I'm just disappointed that the attacks worked perfectly for Al Queda. I wanted to think we were better than that.

But you knew what that thread was focusing on and you knew the reaction you'd provoke if people paid any attention, so why didn't you start a new thread about those issues so that anyone who wanted to take part in a discussion about them had the choice to do so?

You're not an idiot. You can't really be so disconnected from how human beings feel and think to be oblivious to what you were doing, like you're often doing in various threads, albeit in this case a more sensitive topic for people than others. That's why I see it as you attention-whoring rather than actually being interested in expressing your feelings about post-9/11 issues or garnering any discussion about them.

I guess you have your own thread for it now though. But I doubt anyone's really going to want to discuss it at this point. You have yourself to blame.

Sep 11, 2011#22

ThatNickGuy

Charlie's a deer, now?

Added at: 09:16
Also, what little respect I have for Charlie gradully declines with every new post he makes.

Sep 11, 2011#23

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
Charlie's a deer, now?

Also, what little respect I have for Charlie gradully declines with every new post he makes.

Yes, and yes.

Sep 11, 2011#24

Bones

congratulations charlie, you have become diet chaz, you are all the inane trolling without any of the coolness. I will gladly stand with sixpack, you are giant sentient pile of crap that deserves ire every time you open your mouth. I myself am a massive douchebag, but even I have standards!

Sep 11, 2011#25

Charlie Don't Surf

I'm not sure what's so trolling about talking about the macro effect of 9/11 on the world instead of just the event/loss of life. But okay.

Sep 11, 2011#26

fade

I really, really try to avoid saying anything non-complimentary about the people here directly, even when it's clear they don't like me. But I have to say this.

The weird thing is, Charlie, that your opinions usually aren't that off-the-wall. Many people would agree with you. It's the way you choose to present them that is bothersome. You usually attack the people instead of the argument. Most of the time, it's indirect, but very obvious. Your posts aren't informative, they're vitriolic and mean. They're one-sided, and never even acknowledge the humanity of the opposition. That doesn't make your point. It puts everyone else on the defensive or in shutdown mode. Even potential allies will begin arguing the opposite of your point of view because you told them they were wrong. Even if they weren't committed to it. (It's probably something we both could work on, really.)

Sep 11, 2011#27

sixpackshaker

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I'm not sure what's so trolling about talking about the macro effect of 9/11 on the world instead of just the event/loss of life. But okay.

God, you are the most blissful person I know of...

Sep 11, 2011#28

ThatNickGuy

Basically what Fade said. I'm not arguing the fact that yeah, the U.S. has certainly dealt a lot of punishment of their own in retaliation, some of it unwarranted. I'll even go as far as to say that, given that they've been bombing the hell out of the Middle East for a decades, that it's no surprise that 9/11 happened.

But that doesn't take anything away from the tragedy of what happened ten years ago. Loss of life is still a loss of life.

Maybe if you had some more tact and respect for that, people wouldn't be hoping you'd just be perma-banned so we wouldn't have to put up with you anymore.

Sep 11, 2011#29

Zappit

fade said:
I really, really try to avoid saying anything non-complimentary about the people here directly, even when it's clear they don't like me. But I have to say this.

The weird thing is, Charlie, that your opinions usually aren't that off-the-wall. Many people would agree with you. It's the way you choose to present them that is bothersome. You usually attack the people instead of the argument. Most of the time, it's indirect, but very obvious. Your posts aren't informative, they're vitriolic and mean. They're one-sided, and never even acknowledge the humanity of the opposition. That doesn't make your point. It puts everyone else on the defensive or in shutdown mode. Even potential allies will begin arguing the opposite of your point of view because you told them they were wrong. Even if they weren't committed to it. (It's probably something we both could work on, really.)

Bingo. This is Westboro Baptist style stuff, picking this day and that instigating tone.

Sep 11, 2011#30

Jay

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Look, I just wish we could have had a response to 9/11 that didn't involve throwing billions of dollars down the drain for two wars, or having rampant xenophobia and racism. Is that too much to expect from your country?

And again, in the sacred memorial thread, I am just expressing that I will never forget how the wars in the wake of 9/11 changed this country for the worse. That's a much huger negative impact than the financial and loss of life.

and this

Sep 11, 2011#31

Gusto

Not today.

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