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Del Toro pulls out of The Hobbit

#1

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=28016

This news is not good. I like it not. Bring me some other news!


#2

Cajungal

Cajungal

The Hobbit still gets pregnant.

Really though.... BOO. :(


#3



Cobra Star

Yep, I veto this completely. Only way I'd accept is if Peter Jackson takes over....


#4



Philosopher B.

I has a sad. :cry:


#5

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'm happy.

Yeah, it sucks that del Toro won't be doing The Hobbit, and I'm sure whatever version of The Hobbit we get won't be as good as what del Toro would've done. But this film has been in limbo thanks to MGM, and he's been held up from other stuff for two years now working on this thing. I'd rather see more del Toro movies than wait and wait on him to make this one based on someone else's fantasy world under the eye of another director who's already established that world in film.

Bring on more del Toro projects!


#6

Cajungal

Cajungal

^That's a good point.


#7

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

You know, I don't mind this news at all.

I wasn't particularly thrilled with Del Toro's work in Pan's Labrynth or Hellboy 2


#8

MindDetective

MindDetective

Tinwhistler said:
You know, I don't mind this news at all.

I wasn't particularly thrilled with Del Toro's work in Pan's Labrynth or Hellboy 2
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He does have a particular aesthetic that I'm not sure would mesh well with the Hobbit.


#9

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Man, that project is cursed.


#10

Cajungal

Cajungal

MindDetective;392151][QUOTE=Tinwhistler said:
You know, I don't mind this news at all.

I wasn't particularly thrilled with Del Toro's work in Pan's Labrynth or Hellboy 2
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He does have a particular aesthetic that I'm not sure would mesh well with the Hobbit.[/QUOTE]

I was actually really looking forward to seeing what he would do with it. As dark as his style can be, I think that a person with his imagination would have done a pretty good job. I can understand not loving Hellboy, but I thought Pan's Labyrinth was excellent.


#11

Espy

Espy

Love Del Toro, I think he would have done a great job on this but I'm very happy that he's going to go get some actual filming done now and on his own projects. If the Hobbit ever gets made I have a feeling Jackson will be doing it. He needs a hit.


#12

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I would have loved to see del Toro tackling the especially dark parts of the book, like the Trolls, the Mirkwood and Smaug's lair. He's pretty good with the beastly.


#13

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Cajungal;392169][QUOTE=MindDetective;392151][QUOTE=Tinwhistler said:
You know, I don't mind this news at all.

I wasn't particularly thrilled with Del Toro's work in Pan's Labrynth or Hellboy 2
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He does have a particular aesthetic that I'm not sure would mesh well with the Hobbit.[/QUOTE]

I was actually really looking forward to seeing what he would do with it. As dark as his style can be, I think that a person with his imagination would have done a pretty good job. I can understand not loving Hellboy, but I thought Pan's Labyrinth was excellent.[/QUOTE]

Don't get me wrong. I loved Pan's Labyrinth. The story was incredible. Del Toro did a great job of directing the actors. But MindDetective said it better than I could have..there's a certain aesthetic that isn't about how 'dark' it is, but a certain Del Toro look that I just don't find myself caring for and am glad that I won't be seeing in The Hobbit.


#14

MindDetective

MindDetective

Yeah, it isn't darkness, it is...some kind of style found in his settings and creatures that is a bit alien. I think in Pan's and H2 he put a lot more emphasis on it than he would in the Hobbit, but I bet it would creep in and give the film a different feel than the novel has.


#15

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Guys, guys, guys! This is GOOD news. Don't you know what this means?

We could be seeing Hellboy 3 sooner, rather than later!

And really, if you thought his aesthetic didn't fit with The Hobbit, watch Hellboy 2 again. That was like Del Toro's warm-up.


#16

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

ThatNickGuy said:
Guys, guys, guys! This is GOOD news. Don't you know what this means?

We could be seeing Hellboy 3 sooner, rather than later!

And really, if you thought his aesthetic didn't fit with The Hobbit, watch Hellboy 2 again. That was like Del Toro's warm-up.
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I'm still a little iffy on HellBabies, though, as much as I enjoyed Hellboy 1 and 2.

Also, the more I think on it the more I agree that we might get lucky and get someone better suited to The Hobbit through this. My main concern is del Toro might not do as well with those beautiful grand shots that Jackson managed to frame so well in the LotR movies.


#17

Jay

Jay

Isn't there a reason why Jackson isn't doing everything again? Or does he not want to put on any weight?


#18

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.


#19

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

sixpackshaker said:
The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.
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Chris Columbus is a terrible director.


#20

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

The Lovely Boner;392275][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.
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Chris Columbus is a terrible director.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Jackson isn't directing because of New Line cheating him out of royalties from the LOTR trilogy... even though he's still producing The Hobbit. Yeah...


#21

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The Lovely Boner;392275][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.
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Chris Columbus is a terrible director.[/QUOTE]

If they make the Hobbit just like Lord of the Rings, they will ruin it. Columbus (yeah don't know why I thought that) Has made some of the best kids movies, just to name Home Alone and Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. He's doing something right.


#22

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Just based on producers' tendencies to work with the same directors and crews, I'd put money on Peter Jackson trying to get Neil Blomkamp to fill the role. Not sure if he'd be able to do it, as District 9 is the only movie of his I've seen, but I bet he's near the top of ol' PJ's list.


#23

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

sixpackshaker said:
Columbus (yeah don't know why I thought that) Has made some of the best kids movies, just to name Home Alone and Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. He's doing something right.
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If by "doing something right" you mean "making soul-less, if mostly harmless, drek"....

The first Harry Potter movie was excruciating for its complete lack of visual imagination or pacing. He basically tried to cram in as much as he could that was already described verbally in the books and didn't take the slightest interpretive chance. The film was a good 20 minutes longer than it had to be for what was depicted, and is only out-done in its sheer monolithic molasses-like movement by the second film, also Columbus-directed, which did the same thing as the first film, only injecting melodramatic pauses into every conversation and plot event.

Columbus is good at slapstick comedy. Home Alone, Mrs. Doubtfire, all passable and reasonably funny, even if Home Alone relied enormously on physical Jackass-esque laughs. None of them are particularly atmospheric or visually interesting, or even especially well-paced, which is going to be pretty darn critical in the Hobbit.

(credit where credit is due, the guy did write Gremlins and the screenplay for the Goonies)

As PJ demonstrated with LOTR and Del Toro at least conceivably with Hellboy, the Hobbit is going to need a director who isn't afraid to take risks with the material and inject a bit of themselves into the creative process to make the translation from page-to-screen work. I just don't think Columbus is that kind of director.


#24

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

I want to photoshop some Home Alone hands on Peregrin Took's face so bad....darn you no-photoshop-having job!


#25

Espy

Espy

escushion;392277][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner;392275][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.
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Chris Columbus is a terrible director.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Jackson isn't directing because of New Line cheating him out of royalties from the LOTR trilogy... even though he's still producing The Hobbit. Yeah...[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be surprised if that changes though. Like I said before, he needs a hit movie.


#26

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Espy;392362][QUOTE=escushion;392277][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner;392275][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.
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Chris Columbus is a terrible director.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Jackson isn't directing because of New Line cheating him out of royalties from the LOTR trilogy... even though he's still producing The Hobbit. Yeah...[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be surprised if that changes though. Like I said before, he needs a hit movie.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but then what? They screw him out of royalties on these movies as well?


#27

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

escushion;392645][QUOTE=Espy;392362][QUOTE=escushion;392277][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner;392275][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
The first name that popped into my head is Chris Colombo. He does great kids flicks, and he will have the WETA for art direction.
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Chris Columbus is a terrible director.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Jackson isn't directing because of New Line cheating him out of royalties from the LOTR trilogy... even though he's still producing The Hobbit. Yeah...[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be surprised if that changes though. Like I said before, he needs a hit movie.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but then what? They screw him out of royalties on these movies as well?[/QUOTE]

But he would still get paid Millions upon Millions of dollars, even if he gets cheated.


#28

Espy

Espy

Well, he lost a lot of capital with the studios with Kong and Lovely Boners (or so the pundits say). He needs to build that back up again.


#29

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Thanks to all this MGM crap it sounds like Jackson's not as likely as people are hoping

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/31/guillermo-del-toro-leaves-the-hobbit/


#30

Calleja

Calleja

MEMO!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


#31

Espy

Espy

Well thats shame. Jackson knows that world and how to bring it to life.


#32

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

We need a director that's done fantasy before. Let's see... hey, Uwe Boll could do it! He recently made In the Name of the King so he's got some fantasy experience.
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What?


#33

Krisken

Krisken

Frank said:
Man, that project is cursed.
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Leave it to Preacher to say that, too.


#34

Gryfter

Gryfter

Calleja said:
MEMO!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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....OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....


#35

Espy

Espy

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45331

Jackson says he's not ruling out directing.


#36

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

The pull out method is not an effective form of birth control.


#37

Cajungal

Cajungal

I already barked up that tree, Dr., and no one laughed. :cry:


#38

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Cajungal said:
I already barked up that tree, Dr., and no one laughed. :cry:
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I missed it! Good, I was thinking this place was starting to lose it's touch. But, seriously, we're humor snobs. Our jokes are too witty for the masses.


#39

Cajungal

Cajungal

dr_awkward;393797][QUOTE=Cajungal said:
I already barked up that tree, Dr., and no one laughed. :cry:
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I missed it! Good, I was thinking this place was starting to lose it's touch. But, seriously, we're humor snobs. Our jokes are too witty for the masses.[/QUOTE]

Wanna start a club!?! :D :D :D *starts building a kickass treehouse*

-Leslie, who always wanted to start a club and have a clubhouse


#40

Jay

Jay

Espy said:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45331

Jackson says he's not ruling out directing.
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Fuck yea!


#41

Calleja

Calleja

I'm not so sure about Jackson... The Hobbit and LotR are two completely different beasts... the former is less epic and sprawling.. more personal. Del Toro was a GREAT choice for that. Jackson NAILED LotR, but I'm not so sure his style will fit The Hobbit as well. I've liked very few movies of his besides LotR :eek:hwell:


#42

Krisken

Krisken

I loved Frighteners. Just saying is all.


#43

Calleja

Calleja

Not really in the same vein as The Hobbit, though, is it?

And The Lovely Bones was one of the worst movies I saw last year.


#44

Espy

Espy

The Lovely Bones is the only movie of his that I haven't liked. You want personal? Watch Heavenly Creatures. Easily the best movie he has ever done.


#45

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Dead Alive was the first one I watched, from Jackson. I've never looked at a push-mower the same way ever since. I also dig the Frighteners and Heavenly Creatures. However, I really disliked Lovely Bones, and was bored by King Kong. His staff will likely control this project too much. It probably won't matter who they get to direct it at this point.


#46

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Heavenly Creatures was amazing.

Stayed away from the Lovely Bones because everyone I knew who liked Heavenly Creatures hated it. :p


#47

Calleja

Calleja

King Kong was also a snore fest.

Except for the T-Rex scenes, at least.

But yeah... I've lost the blind faith I once had in Jackson. I'm worried he's going to want to do The Hobbit too LotR-y


#48

Cajungal

Cajungal

AUUGH Every time I think of King Kong I get mad at Naomi Watts. Would it have killed her to actually learn how to freaking juggle?!


#49



Philosopher B.

I pretty much like every movie I've seen by the guy, King Kong included (though it coulda used some tightening) ... granted, I haven't seen The Lovely Bones yet.


#50

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

The poor, poor hobbit... that must have been like a Tauren using a Gnome as a contraceptive.


#51



Philosopher B.

North_Ranger said:
The poor, poor hobbit... that must have been like a Tauren using a Gnome as a contraceptive.
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:confused:


#52

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Philosopher B.;395837][QUOTE=North_Ranger said:
The poor, poor hobbit... that must have been like a Tauren using a Gnome as a contraceptive.
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:confused:[/QUOTE]

Well, aren't gnomes walking sex toys already? I mean, they have a vibrate setting.


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