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"Oh, what are you doing here...? Let me think… Oh, that's right. I told you to come! There are 3 Pokémon here! Haha! They are inside the Poké Balls. When I was young, I was a serious Pokémon trainer! In my old age, I have only 3 left, but you can have one! Choose!"

Charmander is the only logical choice here.

I have never played a Pokemon game.

Me either. I watched the anime once in a while.

HowDroll said:

Charmander is the only logical choice here.

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Ok.

I'll take squirtle.

blotsfan, I wish I could have also given you a Love it and a funny. A brofist will have to suffice.

Hells yes squirtle. Why?
Because he evolves into the goddamned Blastoise, that's why.

Charmander. Every time.

Except once, pikachu.

checkeredhat said:

blotsfan, I wish I could have also given you a Love it and a funny. A brofist will have to suffice.

Hells yes squirtle. Why?
Because he evolves into the goddamned Blastoise, that's why.

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My Charizard will shit all over your Blastoise. Besides, Gyrados is an objectively better water Pokemon.

*Puts on nerd glasses*

Gyrados is double weak against electric types and can do nothing to defend against them.
Squirtle can be taught Dig, to both defend and attack against electrics, and blizzard, giving him the upper hand against grass types. A Blastoise with Dig, Blizzard, Surf and Hydro Pump will seldom let you down.

I mean, I'd vote for the Squirtle Squad, but not every squirtle gets in there.

checkeredhat said:

*Puts on nerd glasses*

Gyrados is double weak against electric types and can do nothing to defend against them.
Squirtle can be taught Dig, to both defend and attack against electrics, and blizzard, giving him the upper hand against grass types. A Blastoise with Dig, Blizzard, Surf and Hydro Pump will seldom let you down.

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Surf AND hydropump? Overkill, and hydropump is unreliable. Swap hydropump for skull bash for a normal type move. Also, dig makes you too predictable, swap for earthquake.

BananaHands said:

I mean, I'd vote for the Squirtle Squad, but not every squirtle gets in there.

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Your image is broken.

I liked having bite, though that's dark starting in gen 2

Ravenpoe said:

Surf AND hydropump? Overkill, and hydropump is unreliable. Swap hydropump for skull bash for a normal type move. Also, dig makes you too predictable, swap for earthquake.

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My thinking is that neither Surf or Hydropump has very high PP, and you're still best off matching types, so naturally you want your water type to have a good sized water arsenal. As for dig being too predictable, perhaps, but unlike earthquake it serves a defensive purpose, which helps prevent 1 hit KOs when matched up against an electric type.

checkeredhat said:

My thinking is that neither Surf or Hydropump has very high PP, and you're still best off matching types, so naturally you want your water type to have a good sized water arsenal. As for dig being too predictable, perhaps, but unlike earthquake it serves a defensive purpose, which helps prevent 1 hit KOs when matched up against an electric type.

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I would say that if you use dig, they're just going to switch in a gyrados with thunderbolt.

checkeredhat said:

Your image is broken.

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Fix'd.

Fuck Brock, I'm taking Charmander.

You all know what I picked.

Yyyyyeeeeaahhhh... Bye.

My pick is Thermonuclearmon

All its attacks look like this:



But then you have to go catch a new one.

It sure is cool over here in my corner. Alone. Yeah. Yeah.

...Yeah.

Chad Sexington said:

It sure is cool over here in my corner. Alone. Yeah. Yeah.

...Yeah.

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No link cable?

Quotemander Prime said:

No link cable?

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He has one. He uses it to trade with himself.

... That's how I caught them all

Ravenpoe said:

He has one. He uses it to trade with himself.

... That's how I caught them all

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In the 15 or so years since the North American release of Red and Blue, having also played through Gold and attempting Ruby Red (I'm still not even sure why this one sucks so much. I mean all of them are pretty much the EXACT same, and yet this one blows in comparison), and the god knows how many new games I've started on Red, I've never managed to catch them all. The last time I started a game, I spent like a whole day choosing starters over and over again, playing through to the first PokeCentre I could find, and trading them to one of my roommates, then starting a new game. Over and over again, so that all three of us had all three starters super early in the game.
Also I named all the Pokemon (Not just the starters, but all the Red only pokemon I traded for blue only pokemon) going to one friend after parts of the penis, and all the pokemon going to the other after parts of the vagina. Because I'm super mature.

Charmander was the shittiest Pokemon to start with, Oh gods were the first two gyms complete balls if you didn't start with Bulbasaur. (I totally started with Charmander when Red/Blue came out. >.<)

Dei said:

Charmander was the shittiest Pokemon to start with, Oh gods were the first two gyms complete balls if you didn't start with Bulbasaur. (I totally started with Charmander when Red/Blue came out. >.<)

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No, no, Charmander is how you proved yourself. Bathe Brock and Misty in its cleansing flame.

(My 12-year-old self believed I was a badass by choosing Charmander.)

Dei said:

Charmander was the shittiest Pokemon to start with, Oh gods were the first two gyms complete balls if you didn't start with Bulbasaur. (I totally started with Charmander when Red/Blue came out. >.<)

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Squirtle was okay to deal with, especially in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Bite was a Dark move by then and it would destroy Misty's Starmie and Staryu, while still being strong against most of her attacks.

And yeah... Charmander was the only real choice in those games. You had TONS of great Water and Grass Types, so you really didn't need another of them. But fire? It was basically Charmander, Vulpix, or Magmar.

Excuse me, Ponyta/Rapidash.

I use to like poison type Pokemon, until I realized they were weak to everything in existence.

Fighting type Pokemon were great. On red you had a chance to catch a Manky early on and just waltzed through the first two gyms with low-kick.

AshburnerX said:

Squirtle was okay to deal with, especially in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Bite was a Dark move by then and it would destroy Misty's Starmie and Staryu, while still being strong against most of her attacks.

And yeah... Charmander was the only real choice in those games. You had TONS of great Water and Grass Types, so you really didn't need another of them. But fire? It was basically Charmander, Vulpix, or Magmar.

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Ahem. Growlithe.

I am now filled with the urge to play Pokemon Snap...

I'm with Dave .

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

I'm with Dave .

--Patrick

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In his day, they didn't catch Pokemon. They just threw rocks at dinosaurs.

Oshawott. I only ever played Black.

Quotemander Prime said:

Ahem. Growlithe.

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If you could get Growlithe, you couldn't get Vulpix. It was the same situation.

If it helps any, I tended to play U/W or G/W (or U/B) in MTG.

--Patrick

Ahh good ole U/W. What bastards we were.

What's the U stand for?

Blue

checkeredhat said:

*Puts on nerd glasses*

Gyrados is double weak against electric types and can do nothing to defend against them.
Squirtle can be taught Dig, to both defend and attack against electrics, and blizzard, giving him the upper hand against grass types. A Blastoise with Dig, Blizzard, Surf and Hydro Pump will seldom let you down.

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Actually...

With base 95 HP, base 79 defense, and base 100 special defense, Gyarados is actually surprisingly bulky. While he's weaker on the physical defense side, he comes with the ability Intimidate, which cuts the opposing pokemon's attack in half right off the bat. This means he can tank physical hits despite having a lower base defense than special defense. Yes, he's 4x weak against electric attacks, but if he switches in on a non-electric opponent, he actually has a good chance of surviving whatever attack they throw at him. Yes, sometimes even electric attacks.

Oh, not to mention that Gyarados's flying/water typing makes it weak to two types (electric and rock), but resists five (water, fighting, bug, steel and fire), while also making him immune to ground type attacks. This means that unless your opponent has an electric type on the field, you can probably switch Gyarados in fairly easily, and count on it surviving.

Then, after switching in, depending on the moveset you use, you can utterly destroy your opponent. The most effective set is probably the Dragon Dance set, which involves using Dragon Dance to boost Gyarados's attack and speed. After one boost, you'll outspeed most of your opponents, plus you'll have 50% higher attack. Coupled with Gyarados's base 125 attack stat, and you can often sweep your opponent's team. If you manage to accumulate more than one boost, your opponent might as well surrender.

An effective set would look something like Dragon Dance/Waterfall/Earthquake/Stone Edge. Dragon Dance for the boosts, as mentioned already. Waterfall for the physical STAB (same type attack bonus, which increases damage by 50%), Earthquake for the inevitable electric type that's going to switch in, and Stone Edge for flying types such as a lot of the common dragons, and even opposing Gyarados.

Of course, more advanced players can use a strategy like Motor Drive bait. Motor Drive is an ability found on Electivire, which means it's immune to electric attacks, and actually gets a speed boost when it's hit by an electric attack. So by putting Gyarados on the field, you're basically screaming "hit me with electric!" And then you switch Gyarados out and have Electivire take the electric attack (and thus get a speed boost). Electivire then sweeps the opposing team with its base 123 attack stat, and huge movepool.

Oh, and for starter, I gotta go with Mudkip. Its final evolution Swampert is an utter beast. It has only one weakness (grass) and has two great STAB types to attack with. Not to mention it can support its team with Stealth Rock.

Nerds

"Wait! Let's check out our Pokémon! Come on, I'll take you on!"

You guys are nerds, I'm out.

Smell ya later!

As stated, I've only ever played Black, but man, do I love Sawk. I have a weakness for the fighter type pokemon.

Gilgamesh said:

Ahh good ole U/W. What bastards we were.

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That's usually how I would respond to a deck like that.

Tress said:

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That's usually how I would respond to a deck like that.

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A theme deck? Goblin at that?

Gilgamesh said:

A theme deck? Goblin at that?

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It's cute that you think you'll have time to build up 4 mana.

I was never super good at Magic, mostly due to the fact that I was not willing to drop tons of money on it. I do like pulling out my starter cards every once and a while though, and playing my husband on even terms.

Tress said:

It's cute that you think you'll have time to build up 4 mana.

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It's cute you think you'd be allowed to cast anything worthwhile or keep it on the board with my /U/ side.

Hell if you want -Protection against-

Wow, you really do not know how a Goblin Piledriver deck works.

Oh god I can feel my neckbeard growing just reading this thread.

Tress said:

Wow, you really do not know how a Goblin Piledriver deck works.

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Sure I do:

Tress: I'm casting Goblin Pile Driver.
Gilgamesh:

Azurephoenix said:

Red elemental blast!

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Damn... that means it made it into play...

I like how MTG is taking over this thread lol.

I always played black... sometimes with a splash of green for good measure. I was always fond of my demon reanimator deck... definitely not the strongest but plenty of fun.

Gilgamesh said:

*blather*

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I completely understand how in Magic there's always a counter to a deck or play style. I'm just teasing Tress because in the entire time I played MTG, a Theme Deck, much less a Goblin one, never would have broken the line on a U/W deck.

Still though, not saying it's not possible, just saying that U/W is meant for defense and chip damage kills.

Tress

On a semi-unrelated note, if you ever want to watch people rage out of their minds as they play M:tG, put this underrated gem on the table:



In a casual setting, this card disrupts around 80% of decks. But no one seems to understand it or sees it coming. So you get this type of fun situation:
Opponent: "... and then I tap this for 2 damage."
You: "No. You have to pay 2 every time, and you don't have it."
Opponent: "No I don't! It doesn't say that..."
*reads card*
*begins swearing*

If you had crazy luck, this one was pretty brutal too:

Charmander. Dragons are cool, nuff said.

If your opponent has Stealth Rock on the field, Charizard gets one turn to be cool before it's KO'd.

Possibly less.

Well whatevs baby, I'd love my kick-ass dragon till the end, as would all my hypothetical magical monster pets. Though I'd teach them all to talk because saying there names all the time would be freaking annoying. Seriously, why hasn't Meowth wrote books on how to teach Pokemon to talk? Bonafide best seller.

Mewtwo talks. Talks directly to your brain, in fact.

Actually, can I pick Mewtwo as a starter? Pleeeeeaaaaaaaase?

Psychic communication doesn't count I think.

Meowth proves that Pokemon can learn to verbally communicate with their owners and as such are logically as cognizant as human beings. In-fact they may be MORE cognizant as Pokemon can understand different species of Pokemon through basic vocal conversation. This would also mean that all Pokemon are inertly telepathic and understand anything any creature says and Meowth learning how to vocally speak with humans is merely him able either alter his vocal chords or alter his brain-waves so that humans would THINK he is really talking. So actually...I take back the top sentence. All Pokemon are psychic and are constantly reading our minds. And the fact that they let us use them for stupid shit like battles, transportation, and powering motor-cycles shows that they are humble god like beings.

Starting Pokemon aside, and definitely not getting into -Who's got better stats/moves-:

Who's your favorite Pokemon and why?

Gilgamesh said:

Starting Pokemon aside, and definitely not getting into -Who's got better stats/moves-:

Who's your favorite Pokemon and why?

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Ditto. He's EVERY pokemon!

Mewtwo. Just look at him, the dude just OOZES charisma. He also shouldn't have been replaced by Lucario in my opinion. Nothing against Lucario, but Mewtwo is just cooler.

Gilgamesh said:

Starting Pokemon aside, and definitely not getting into -Who's got better stats/moves-:

Who's your favorite Pokemon and why?

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Well if you look at the movepool and stats of.... aww dammit.

Ok, my favorite pokemon would probably be Medicham, because I have a very fond memory of coming across a Medicham with the moves Endure and Reversal in the Emerald Battle Frontier, specifically I rented one at the Battle Factory. Those two moves allowed me to sweep through the whole tournament like a tank rolling over a row of grapes.

I can't make a case for Medicham being the best competitive pokemon. It's got too many weaknesses. But damn if I don't have fond memories of this guy.

I guess its a copout because its a legendary but I like zapdos. When I played the card game my deck was build around zapdos even though his card was crappy.

I just looked on line and all but 12.5 % of the original starter type species are male. That....that explains a lot about why they are so rare.

blotsfan said:

I guess its a copout because its a legendary but I like zapdos. When I played the card game my deck was build around zapdos even though his card was crappy.

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Any time my friends and I start playing again, we all agree to a no legendary rule, and it completely screws up the balance of my team when I can't have my Zapdos.

Yeah, Legendaries are kinda lame. But then again, I used to raise things like Dragonite, Metagross, Tyranitar, Garchomp... my friends would never bother getting those guys up because they aren't very useful till the end game.

*Mind you I've only played a couple of the Pokemon games.

One of my favorites, his entire species are Egyptian looking, which gets big points in my book.

AshburnerX said:

Yeah, Legendaries are kinda lame. But then again, I used to raise things like Dragonite, Metagross, Tyranitar, Garchomp... my friends would never bother getting those guys up because they aren't very useful till the end game.

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Oh that reminds me, I have a beastly Metagross in my Heartgold game. Adamant nature and max attack IVs. This guy's Meteor Mash causes so much pain.

Metagross would probably be my second favorite pokemon.

Gilgamesh said:

*Mind you I've only played a couple of the Pokemon games.

One of my favorites, his entire species are Egyptian looking, which gets big points in my book.

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YES. I always ended up leveling the hell out of these guy to the point where he wouldn't listen to me.[DOUBLEPOST=1347457598][/DOUBLEPOST]Pokemon War Theory

You have no father, and your best friend is an orphan.
Children are going to a journey around the world.
Your mother accepts you as the man on the house, making your own decisions.
Old man warns you of dangers around the corner.
Most people you meet are children and/ or gym leaders.
Most adult men are either very old, or have a job related to the military or organized crime.
Hospitals and gyms are everywhere, but no forms of entertainment such as movie theaters.

LT. Surge:
"Hey kid! What do you think your doing here? You wont live long in combat!
That's for sure! I tell you what kid, electric Pokemon saved me during the war!"
You now realize that there was a war in Kanto.
Your father died, and your rival lost his parents.
You are amongst the first generation of people to live in peace at post-war time.

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Geodude is awesome.

Second favorite would be Haunter. He just looked so funny!