Former President and Convicted Felon Trump Thread

I'm stepping away from this because I'm getting too angry and emotional on the issue.
We are, too, but I know your threshold of what you can stand is probably lower than average since your emotions are closer to the surface.
This whole "We're going to take our bat and ball and go home" attitude is annoying to us, too. We actually enjoyed the benefits of being part of some of these programs.

--Patrick
 
It's a sad state of affairs when this study is relevant again.

In short - the gag rule increases the rate of abortions in developing countries. Not just unsafe/unhealthy ones, abortions in general - since the decrease in funding because of abortion translates into less modern birth control being available and so on.

Also of note, the "new" gag rule will be affecting far, far more organizations (and thus, people) than the older versions. All statistical data says this new gag rule will lead to literally thousands of dead young mothers, thousands more (often dangerous) abortions, and thousands more unwanted children in already starving regions. Well done! Anyone who claims any sort of moral reason for this law better understand this: this rule is immoral, wrong, and achieves the exact opposite of what you claim to have as a goal.

As one of the first decisions of a new president, it's pretty telling - though it's only telling us things most of us already know.
 
I doubt Trump is actually working this much. Not his style.

This stuff was probably written up by Republicans ahead of time, ready for him to sign his name like he's good at doing. Any of it blows up, it's on Trump, and they get to look like heroes when they throw him under the bus for doing their dirty work.
 
This war on abortion reeks of Pence, honestly. The more I think about it, the more I think Trump is just the clown to distract everyone. Then again, I thought that for a long time.
 
This war on abortion reeks of Pence, honestly. The more I think about it, the more I think Trump is just the clown to distract everyone. Then again, I thought that for a long time.
On the other hand, the all-encompassing flavor of it, the big huge wide sweeping way things are written, sound like Trump speech made text. Big Huge Changes and Everything I Promised, Right Away, See, It Doesn't Have To Be Difficult. Then, finding out what a mess it all creates and cleaning it up 'll be harder, but that's tomorrow's problem.

But yes, I do agree most of this is coming from Pence and the extreme right pushing their agenda through. Each one of these orders he's signing could fill a news cycle. Pushing through so much so fast drowns everything. The news isn't "oh my God, there's something horrible coming, this specific law/order needs to be stopped" - it's "Trump's being Trump and doing insane shit". I think a lot of people still don't understand how fundamental and genuinely dangerous some of the things he's doing and promising to do are.
 
So the gag order thing has a history of going into effect any time a Republican president comes into power, then being rescinded when a Democrat comes into power. So, while abhorrent, it's actually not really surprising that it happened right away.
 
So, while abhorrent, it's actually not really surprising that it happened right away.
But apparently this one is more far reaching, and will affect even the WHO.

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Also, has anyone heard how Trump can't let go the illegal voters thing, even though the Repubs are telling him to drop it?

Wouldn't it be hilarious if he orders a big investigation, and they find tons of dead people that "voted", then they purge them all, then next election, for some reason, lots of Republicans lose their seats as there are less republican votes all of a sudden ...
 
I don't believe they know what irony is at this point.
Trump’s daughter, admin members are registered to vote in multiple states*
New reports have surfaced that President Donald Trump’s daughter and some members of his administration are registered to vote in multiple states. The development [...] comes the same day Trump ordered a “major investigation” into voter fraud, “including those registered to vote in two states,” which he has claimed — without evidence — cost him the popular vote in the 2016 election.
...hmmmnope, I don't believe they do.

--Patrick
*there are other, more reputable sources for the story, if you're interested.
 

Dave

Staff member
People can be registered in multiple states. It only becomes a crime when they VOTE in more than one.
 
People can be registered in multiple states. It only becomes a crime when they VOTE in more than one.
When you register in your new state, you are supposed to update your registration which nullifies your ability to vote in another state.
If, however, you "forget" to change your permanent address with the old state, well...

--Patrick
 
Gag order's been lifted on Department of Agriculture, allegedly because of the outcry.

So apparently we just need to bitch enough. Well, this'll be a breeze.
 

fade

Staff member
Well... I just saw multiple people on my Facebook friends list go from actively defending trump to outrage. No one likes censorship.
 
White House leaks are ... enlightening.



Highlights for me come as no surprise:

- Trump doesn't care one way or the other about abortion. Just signing his name to pre-written orders.
- Moseying from meeting to meeting staring at his phone
- The White House staff is pretty demoralized at the moment over his behavior
- People being sworn in want Pence to do it so they don't have to get their photos taken with Trump
- Trump wants everyone to have healthcare, but has zero understanding of how to make that happen or the effects of ripping away Obamacare without having a plan
 
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