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The Hangover won, which surprised me but I did a HUGE facepalm when Avatar won best picture.

I wanted Precious to win so bad.

Charlie! Where's our rundown?

Yet Avatar was clearly Best Picture.

christoph waltz took best supporting actor, that's awesome

Spoony called that shit.

Glad Up won best animated and muiscal score at the globes

Begs the question however, was it animation or cgi? If so, did it go up against Avatar? If not, why not?

Avatar cleaned up way too much. Downey's speech was fucking rad, though I dunno if he should've won.

It's only the Golden Globes, who actually cares about those?

The Golden what now?!

The TV stuff was okay, the Movie stuff was fuckin retarded. I'm too depressed by the imminent Avatar winnin best picture at the Oscars to care.

Winners, I've bolded the especially shitty choices, and underlined ones I agree with. Ones I'm kind of ambivalent on, or haven't seen enough of the nominees to really know/care I left normal.

MOTION PICTURES:

_Picture, Drama: "Avatar."

_Picture, Musical or Comedy: "The Hangover."

_Actor, Drama: Jeff Bridges, "Crazy Heart."

_Actress, Drama: Sandra Bullock, "The Blind Side."

_Director: James Cameron, "Avatar."

_Actor, Musical or Comedy: Robert Downey Jr., "Sherlock Holmes."

_Actress, Musical or Comedy: Meryl Streep, "Julie & Julia."

_Supporting Actor: Christoph Waltz, "Inglourious Basterds."

_Supporting Actress: Mo'Nique, "Precious: Based on the Novel `Push' by Sapphire."

_Foreign Language: "The White Ribbon."

_Animated Film: "Up."

_Screenplay: Jason Reitman and Sheldon Turner, "Up in the Air."

_Original Score: Michael Giacchino, "Up."

_Original Song: "The Weary Kind" (theme from "Crazy Heart"), (written by Ryan Bingham, T Bone Burnett).

TELEVISION:

_Series, Drama: "Mad Men," AMC.

_Actor, Drama: Michael C. Hall, "Dexter."

_Actress, Drama: Julianna Margulies, "The Good Wife."

_Series, Musical or Comedy: "Glee," Fox.

_Actor, Musical or Comedy: Alec Baldwin, "30 Rock."

_Actress, Musical or Comedy: Toni Collette, "United States of Tara."

_Miniseries or Movie: "Grey Gardens," HBO.

_Actor, Miniseries or Movie: Kevin Bacon, "Taking Chance."

_Actress, Miniseries or Movie: Drew Barrymore, "Grey Gardens."

_Supporting Actor, Series, Miniseries or Movie: John Lithgow, "Dexter."

_Supporting Actress, Series, Miniseries or Movie: Chloe Sevigny, "Big Love."

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Was Christoph Waltz the guy who played Hanz Landa?

If so, I'd like to know who the other nominees were, because I'm struggling to see how it could even be a contest.

Iaculus said:

Was Christoph Waltz the guy who played Hanz Landa?

If so, I'd like to know who the other nominees were, because I'm struggling to see how it could even be a contest.

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Matt Damon – Invictus

Woody Harrelson – The Messenger

Christopher Plummer – The Last Station

Stanley Tucci – The Lovely Bones

Christoph Waltz – Inglourious Basterds


This was a good choice.

Iaculus said:

Was Christoph Waltz the guy who played Hanz Landa?

If so, I'd like to know who the other nominees were, because I'm struggling to see how it could even be a contest.

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Damon for Invictus, Harrelson for Messenger, Tucci for Lovely Bones (lol), Plummer for Last Station


edit: dammit Dave. I feel a little guilty underlining Waltz since I haven't seen any of those other movies, but I really loved his performance

_Actress, Musical or Comedy: Toni Collette, "United States of Tara."

Really?

Frankie said:

_Actress, Musical or Comedy: Toni Collette, "United States of Tara."

Really?

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Showtime throws a lot of money at the Foreign Press, what can I say? Although, I haven't seen said TV show.

It's not worth a Golden Globe.

The Hangover deserved the win for best comedy. Twas good.

It's still a surprise that a "raunchy" comedy won. They tend to get overlooked.

The Golden Globes are much more of a popularity/biggest box office contest. A Serious Man was a much better movie.

Charlie Dont Surf said:

The Golden Globes are much more of a popularity/biggest box office contest. A Serious Man was a much better movie.

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What? No it wasn't. It was nowhere near as mass appealing as Hangover was.

Chazwozel;330070][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf said:

The Golden Globes are much more of a popularity/biggest box office contest. A Serious Man was a much better movie.

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What? No it wasn't. It was nowhere near as mass appealing as Hangover was.[/QUOTE]

I agree. It was nowhere near as successful as The Hangover.

Charlie Dont Surf;330071][QUOTE=Chazwozel;330070][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf said:

The Golden Globes are much more of a popularity/biggest box office contest. A Serious Man was a much better movie.

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What? No it wasn't. It was nowhere near as mass appealing as Hangover was.[/QUOTE]

I agree. It was nowhere near as successful as The Hangover.[/QUOTE]

Well in addition to being more successful it was the better movie. To me watching comedies is about fun more than anything. Hangover was definitely more fun.

I'll give you that. Hangover was more accurately a comedy. It was kind of weird that Serious Man was in that category instead of Drama. I'd still be raging over it losing to Avatar either way!

Charlie Dont Surf said:

I'll give you that. Hangover was more accurately a comedy. It was kind of weird that Serious Man was in that category instead of Drama. I'd still be raging over it losing to Avatar either way!

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A Serious Man was a dramedy/black comedy? I mean there were funny parts to it.

Yeah, it was on the line. But I think I'd put it more as a drama for the Golden Globes' purposes.

That brings us to an interesting question as to what exactly constitutes a comedy. "The Truman Show" was billed by the Golden Globes as a comedy as was "Man on the Moon" but I would say that neither were.

What criteria makes a movie a comedy? Is there a percentage of funny material that has to be present? What about a movie like Showgirls where it's hysterical but not intentionally?

I have not seen "A Serious Man" but I've heard it's like "In Bruges" in that it has funny parts but is a serious movie.

The honest answer is: whichever category the studio thinks it has a better shot at winning.

Charlie Dont Surf said:

The honest answer is: whichever category the studio thinks it has a better shot at winning.

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Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Drama- 1980: Chevy Chase in Caddyshack.

Chevy beat out DeNiro in Raging Bull, huh? I did not know that. :sneaky:

Yeah, ASM should have been drama although I understand WHY it's in comedy. Oh yeah, and it should have won. Best picture of the year I have seen (I haven't seen The Hurt Locker yet, I hear that might change my mind).

Espy said:

Yeah, ASM should have been drama although I understand WHY it's in comedy. Oh yeah, and it should have won. Best picture of the year I have seen (I haven't seen The Hurt Locker yet, I hear that might change my mind).

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Just bought The Hurt Locker on Bluray and watched it last night. If it's the Best Picture of the Year, this year was really shitty for movies.

It's good, but it also slides into retarded territory on occasion. It's one of the best Iraq movies. And it's definitely engrossing/gripping. But Best Picture it is not.

Wait Caddyshack was a comedy why were they categorizing it as a drama?

BlackCat said:

Wait Caddyshack was a comedy why were they categorizing it as a drama?

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ffffffffffffffffffffff

Adammon;330239][QUOTE=Espy said:

Yeah, ASM should have been drama although I understand WHY it's in comedy. Oh yeah, and it should have won. Best picture of the year I have seen (I haven't seen The Hurt Locker yet, I hear that might change my mind).

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Just bought The Hurt Locker on Bluray and watched it last night. If it's the Best Picture of the Year, this year was really shitty for movies.

It's good, but it also slides into retarded territory on occasion. It's one of the best Iraq movies. And it's definitely engrossing/gripping. But Best Picture it is not.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. I've heard nothing but glowing praise for it. Well, I guess we will see if it can knock ASM off the top of my list.

Dave said:

That brings us to an interesting question as to what exactly constitutes a comedy. "The Truman Show" was billed by the Golden Globes as a comedy as was "Man on the Moon" but I would say that neither were.

What criteria makes a movie a comedy? Is there a percentage of funny material that has to be present? What about a movie like Showgirls where it's hysterical but not intentionally?

I have not seen "A Serious Man" but I've heard it's like "In Bruges" in that it has funny parts but is a serious movie.

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In Bruges was supposed to be a serious movie?!?!

Covar said:

In Bruges was supposed to be a serious movie?!?!

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I was laughing my ass off when

Espy;330250][QUOTE=Adammon;330239][QUOTE=Espy said:

Yeah, ASM should have been drama although I understand WHY it's in comedy. Oh yeah, and it should have won. Best picture of the year I have seen (I haven't seen The Hurt Locker yet, I hear that might change my mind).

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Just bought The Hurt Locker on Bluray and watched it last night. If it's the Best Picture of the Year, this year was really shitty for movies.

It's good, but it also slides into retarded territory on occasion. It's one of the best Iraq movies. And it's definitely engrossing/gripping. But Best Picture it is not.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. I've heard nothing but glowing praise for it. Well, I guess we will see if it can knock ASM off the top of my list.[/QUOTE]

It suffers from Jack Bauer Syndrome, where they try to make a character an extreme bad ass to the point where it tosses realism out the window.

For example: Instead of using a robot to deactivate a bomb, the bomb disposal EXTREME BAD ASS character goes in and does it manually. Repeatedly. Throughout the movie. Just to show how EXTREME he is. Even the other characters in the movie talk about how EXTREME he is. (I thought they were making fun of him at one point, but no, they were talking seriously about how bad ass he is)

Once you take the EXTREME BAD ASS meme out, the rest of the movie kinda falls apart. Fortunately, the dude plays an EXTREME BAD ASS really well. In fact, the whole point of the movie is "War is a Drug" and that this dude is addicted to how EXTREME it is.

I think the reason it's getting good word of mouth is because it plays against the typical expectations for a 'war movie'. There's not a lot of explosions, there's not a lot of gore. There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was.

Charlie Dont Surf;330264][QUOTE=Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was. [/QUOTE]

No, no it wasn't.

15 minutes of nothing, followed by:


This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.

Adammon said:

This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.

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You say that like it's a bad thing.

ahah, if you thought The Hurt Locker was an "Art House Movie", then well, I don't know.

The Lovely Boner said:

ahah, if you thought The Hurt Locker was an "Art House Movie", then well, I don't know.

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I'm surprised you've even seen it.

Adammon;330281][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner said:

ahah, if you thought The Hurt Locker was an "Art House Movie", then well, I don't know.

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I'm surprised you've even seen it.[/QUOTE]

Why? I like good movies

The Lovely Boner;330293][QUOTE=Adammon;330281][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner said:

ahah, if you thought The Hurt Locker was an "Art House Movie", then well, I don't know.

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I'm surprised you've even seen it.[/QUOTE]

Why? I like good movies [/QUOTE]

You should really try watching more of them then.

Adammon;330294][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner;330293][QUOTE=Adammon;330281][QUOTE=The Lovely Boner said:

ahah, if you thought The Hurt Locker was an "Art House Movie", then well, I don't know.

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I'm surprised you've even seen it.[/QUOTE]

Why? I like good movies [/QUOTE]

You should really try watching more of them then.[/QUOTE]

I dunno what you're getting at, I watch a lot of good movies, I guess we disagree on Hurt Locker.

I really want to see that movie.

Adammon;330267][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf;330264][QUOTE=Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was. [/QUOTE]

No, no it wasn't.

15 minutes of nothing, followed by:


This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.[/QUOTE]

Your solution would have gotten them in some pretty deep shit. You can not shoot a body that is known to be dead already.

I want to see this movie now, I think the RedBox wil be getting a visit from me this weekend.

Covar;330315][QUOTE=Adammon;330267][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf;330264][QUOTE=Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was. [/QUOTE]

No, no it wasn't.

15 minutes of nothing, followed by:


This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.[/QUOTE]

Your solution would have gotten them in some pretty deep shit. You can not shoot a body that is known to be dead already.
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At the risk of derailing the thread, why is that? Serious question here, not trying to be a smart-ass.

Ricky Gervais was awesome, I wish he had been on more than like 2 minutes total.

Also... Toni Collette totally deserved to win, United States of Tara is a pretty good show, but Collette's performance is exceptional.

Simfers;330347][QUOTE=Covar;330315][QUOTE=Adammon;330267][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf;330264][QUOTE=Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was. [/QUOTE]

No, no it wasn't.

15 minutes of nothing, followed by:


This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.[/QUOTE]

Your solution would have gotten them in some pretty deep shit. You can not shoot a body that is known to be dead already.
[/QUOTE]

At the risk of derailing the thread, why is that? Serious question here, not trying to be a smart-ass.[/QUOTE]

1) Defacing the dead.
2) You are only supposed to discharge your weapon when there is a credible threat.

In this case if he fired he'd probably have a case. Sometimes they will "put one in the leg" to see if the target is faking it. Not a common tactic but it happens.

Dave;330353][QUOTE=Simfers;330347][QUOTE=Covar;330315][QUOTE=Adammon;330267][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf;330264][QUOTE=Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was. [/QUOTE]

No, no it wasn't.

15 minutes of nothing, followed by:


This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.[/QUOTE]

Your solution would have gotten them in some pretty deep shit. You can not shoot a body that is known to be dead already.
[/QUOTE]

At the risk of derailing the thread, why is that? Serious question here, not trying to be a smart-ass.[/QUOTE]

1) Defacing the dead.
2) You are only supposed to discharge your weapon when there is a credible threat.

In this case if he fired he'd probably have a case. Sometimes they will "put one in the leg" to see if the target is faking it. Not a common tactic but it happens.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Mr. Nihsen. I shall go to bed slightly smarter tonight.

There may be other & better reasons. These are just the ones I can come up with from the mists of time that I call my past.

Also, each shot fired can give away your position more, I imagine.

The Lovely Boner said:

Why? I like good movies

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Tears in my eyes from laughter here.

The Lovely Boner said:

Also, each shot fired can give away your position more, I imagine.

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Considering how many snipers they were firing at, and the number of times they missed. Plus the fact they didn't move between misses, I don't think they were concerned about positions.

I liked the movie, don't get me wrong. However, it's not (..scratch that, it shouldn't be) a Best Picture contender. In terms of Iraq movies, I think I enjoyed Three Kings more, however it's a more 'real' movie (Even if Three Kings is based on a true story)

Covar;330315][QUOTE=Adammon;330267][QUOTE=Charlie Dont Surf;330264][QUOTE=Adammon said:

There is a 15 minute scene of two guys staring through a sniper rifle though. Riveting!

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It actually was. [/QUOTE]

No, no it wasn't.

15 minutes of nothing, followed by:


This is an art house war movie. Not a real war movie.[/QUOTE]

Your solution would have gotten them in some pretty deep shit. You can not shoot a body that is known to be dead already.

I want to see this movie now, I think the RedBox wil be getting a visit from me this weekend.[/QUOTE]

This is a movie where

Shooting a sniper they believed to be still alive would be defensible in this universe.

Three Kings was flippin fantastic.

Charlie probably hated it.

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I remember liking Three Kings a bunch.

Hurt Locker is on my "to see" list, but I wish to agree right now that Three Kings was frakkin' awesome.