Export thread

I keep seeing these TV spots for Destiny, and they're doing a good job of selling me the game. Is it nearly as cool as it looks, or is there a lot of hype?

I doubt that is possible...

Feedback is pretty mixed. Many claim it's pretty boring.

If a game ad is going ACTION ACTION ACTION, it probably isn't.

Doesn't exist for PC so who cares.

Gryfter said:

Doesn't exist for PC so who cares.

Click to expand...

TRUTH

Gryfter said:

Doesn't exist for PC so who cares.

Click to expand...

Basically this. Not on PC? Don't care. It's a shooter. Fix that shit.

Nobody I know is super-into it, but nobody flat out hates it either. Seems to be pretty middle-of-the-road from what I'm hearing.

But hey, why answer his question when you can whine about PC/console shit?

CynicismKills said:

Nobody I know is super-into it, but nobody flat out hates it either. Seems to be pretty middle-of-the-road from what I'm hearing.

But hey, why answer his question when you can whine about PC/console shit?

Click to expand...

Peasant.

Tom Chick made a comment about it that made me smile.

The Peter Dinklage voiceover in Destiny is a gift that keeps on giving. You simply cannot fake that level of disinterest.

Click to expand...

Frank said:

The Peter Dinklage voiceover in Destiny is a gift that keeps on giving. You simply cannot fake that level of disinterest.

Click to expand...

Must be a serious shortage of Tits and Wine in the game, then.

It's very generic storywise but the gameplay is fun. I would probably wait until it drops in price as you won't be too far behind. Max level is 20 right now with you able to get a little passed that using some gear, I think 26. Currently at 21 but I haven't really done much else since it came out.

It is very much borderlands without the soul though.

CynicismKills said:

Nobody I know is super-into it, but nobody flat out hates it either. Seems to be pretty middle-of-the-road from what I'm hearing.

But hey, why answer his question when you can whine about PC/console shit?

Click to expand...

Has nothing to do with which is better, I'm not dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one game.

Bowielee said:

Has nothing to do with which is better, I'm not dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one game.

Click to expand...

That's a fine, valid point. It's the whole "hur dur pc deserves it cause it's a shooter" that's annoying. The console/PC thing is as dumb as the Nintendo/Genesis thing.

I never really got the whole console/PC thing, either. I even put my money where my mouth was after arguing with people on here about it. Are the games shinier on the PC? Sure, but I also sit a whole lot closer to the screen. I flop back on my couch with my PS3 controller and I can't say it's a world of difference. Not enough to care. Checks and balances to me. Simplicity, comfort, and touch feedback vs. pretty and flexible. Eh, I'll take either, and neither wins. Call me a filthy casual.

fade said:

I never really got the whole console/PC thing, either. I even put my money where my mouth was after arguing with people on here about it. Are the games shinier on the PC? Sure, but I also sit a whole lot closer to the screen. I flop back on my couch with my PS3 controller and I can't say it's a world of difference. Not enough to care. Checks and balances to me. Simplicity, comfort, and touch feedback vs. pretty and flexible. Eh, I'll take either, and neither wins. Call me a filthy casual.

Click to expand...

Filthy casual.

I looked at a game play clip and it looked pretty boring. A group of people was trying to take down a boss, but even with everything going on it just seemed kinda meh.

CynicismKills said:

That's a fine, valid point. It's the whole "hur dur pc deserves it cause it's a shooter" that's annoying. The console/PC thing is as dumb as the Nintendo/Genesis thing.

Click to expand...

Dude, this isn't an argument about console vs PC.... that would require the game to be out on PC for us to complain about how much better/worse it is.

fade said:

I never really got the whole console/PC thing, either. I even put my money where my mouth was after arguing with people on here about it. Are the games shinier on the PC? Sure, but I also sit a whole lot closer to the screen. I flop back on my couch with my PS3 controller and I can't say it's a world of difference. Not enough to care. Checks and balances to me. Simplicity, comfort, and touch feedback vs. pretty and flexible. Eh, I'll take either, and neither wins. Call me a filthy casual.

Click to expand...

I have to disagree on the graphics. I play on my PC from the same distance that I play on my PS3(my TV is also my computer monitor), and I can still tell a difference, in particular the resolution. PCs also have access to a whole host of fog, cloth and other such effects that are ahead of the curve for consoles. That's one of the reasons that if a game is out on all platforms, I'll always default to the PC, unless it's a really horrid port. And because almost every game that comes out is cross platform now, it makes owning a console absolutely useless for me.

But, I still want Microsoft to keep cranking out the consoles so that I can have decent game controllers for my PC.

I can route my pc output to my television with the push of a button, and play on my couch with my wireless controllers if I so choose.

Filthy casuals.

One advantage of consoles, or at least used to be, was that the hardware didn't really change. You never had to worry about having the right graphics card or sound card or proper setup or how certain drivers interacted. You had a console, that was what the game required. Since I don't like having to reconfigure things every time I want to play something, that appeals to me.

Ironically now I do most of my gaming on PC, though since the newest game I own is Mass Effect 3 or Dragon Age 2, being at the tip of the curve isn't really so much an issue. Now, it's a matter of, "I do a lot of my work on PC, so it makes sense to game on it too, instead of having to buy a new console." (my latest console is a PS2)

Gryfter said:

Dude, this isn't an argument about console vs PC.... that would require the game to be out on PC for us to complain about how much better/worse it is.

Click to expand...

See, you say that but all you spout is

Gryfter said:

Doesn't exist for PC so who cares.

Click to expand...

Instead of trying to make a point, you dismiss anything important by being a blind PC fanboy. Instead of "fuck it not on PC who cares" why not either talk about the game's various reviews, or ignore it since you can't play it/won't bother to buy it?

For a board so against the mindset of things like 4chan's /v/, there's a staggering amount of similarities.

CynicismKills said:

or ignore it since you can't play it/won't bother to buy it?

Click to expand...

I think that's what he was expressing.

You may also be reading a bit more seriousness into these posts than is intended.

Peasant.

The biggest advantage of consoles was that they were consistent, meaning that there were fewer bugs, and games HAD to be in a great state before release because they had no way of patching them. PC games have had patches for years and years, so we are used to it. Now, that advantage is gone. With there being fewer drive issues due to better PC architecture and constant connectivity for updates. Consoles nowadays are, for the most part low rent computers. That's one of the reasons that the WiiU is the only console I'm buying this generation. It's still a console, not a weak PC with a crappy OS that trys to sell me stuff.

One thing that gets me is that the best trailers for Destiny are the live action trailers using 'Immigrant Song', which is awesome. The gameplay trailers, not so much. I think I'd be a lot more interested if it was a 3PS instead of FPS (for some reason I handle those a lot better). On the other hand, watching the gameplay of TitanFall makes me want to play it if I had a top-shelf gaming rig.

Actually, I think some of the best advertising for games that I have seen is actually the Let's Plays done by Achievement Hunter. I really didn't have much interest in GTAV until I watched their gaming events, and now I'm waiting for the price to drop so I can get it and a bunch of the DLC. Their multi-part Lets Play of Titanfall really showed how fun and intense that game can be and went from "Hmm, that game looks cool," to "Holy shit that game is fucking awesome!"

Ravenpoe said:

I think that's what he was expressing.

You may also be reading a bit more seriousness into these posts than is intended.

Peasant.

Click to expand...

But by coming into a thread where the OP is asking about something and you respond with NO FUCK THAT HERE'S THE THING, you're not helping anyone, you're just being a Charlie.

Stop being a Charlie.

CynicismKills said:

But by coming into a thread where the OP is asking about something and you respond with NO FUCK THAT HERE'S THE THING, you're not helping anyone, you're just being a Charlie.

Stop being a Charlie.

Click to expand...

Personally, I look forward to when they port this to PC.

Because they will eventually.

Null said:

One thing that gets me is that the best trailers for Destiny are the live action trailers using 'Immigrant Song', which is awesome. The gameplay trailers, not so much. I think I'd be a lot more interested if it was a 3PS instead of FPS (for some reason I handle those a lot better). On the other hand, watching the gameplay of TitanFall makes me want to play it if I had a top-shelf gaming rig.

Click to expand...

Titanfall actually doesn't require a super high end gaming rig to run. It requires a fairly beefy computer, but most gaming PC's should be able to run it just fine. My EA hate aside (and there is plenty) it's actually pretty well optimized, other than the fact that it's using uncompressed 'super textures' that devour harddrive space for no good goddamn reason.

Bowielee said:

Personally, I look forward to when they port this to PC.

Because they will eventually.

Click to expand...

And that's what makes it even more hilarious.

Everyone jumps on CDS for his posting style, but really most of them do them same as him in their own way. But instead of thinking "oh yeah, we're being hypocrites" they just keep going.

CynicismKills said:

But by coming into a thread where the OP is asking about something and you respond with NO FUCK THAT HERE'S THE THING, you're not helping anyone, you're just being a Charlie.

Stop being a Charlie.

Click to expand...

Fuck that, here's the thing: Destiny looks interesting, but since it's not yet out on PC, I have no vested interest to really pay much attention to it, until such a point that it is out on PC.

And I would define being a Charlie as arguing against things in which there's no real reason to argue. In which case, stop being a Charlie.


Actually, that's probably more like being a JCM.

And before you say "If you have nothing to contribue, why post" I'll ask you this: Have you ever read this forum before?

Ravenpoe said:

Titanfall actually doesn't require a super high end gaming rig to run. It requires a fairly beefy computer, but most gaming PC's should be able to run it just fine. My EA hate aside (and there is plenty) it's actually pretty well optimized, other than the fact that it's using uncompressed 'super textures' that devour harddrive space for no good goddamn reason.

Click to expand...

Yeah it's not really a gaming rig, it's just a general use PC. I have to tone down the graphics on Transformers: Fall of Cybertron to keep it from running slow.

Ravenpoe said:

Fuck that, here's the thing: Destiny looks interesting, but since it's not yet out on PC, I have no vested interest to really pay much attention to it, until such a point that it is out on PC.

And I would define being a Charlie as arguing against things in which there's no real reason to argue. In which case, stop being a Charlie.


Actually, that's probably more like being a JCM.

And before you say "If you have nothing to contribue, why post" I'll ask you this: Have you ever read this forum before?

Click to expand...

Alright, so we're both Charlies in the end.

Then instead of whining about NO PC WEH WEH, why not look into reviews and see if the game is even worth wanting? PC gamers bitch about not getting games that consoles do, but are the games worth worrying about to begin with?

First Impressions of Destiny by NY Daily News

Too Long, Didn't Read: edition? It's basically if you put HALO, Mass Effect, Borderlands, Diablo, and a bored Peter Dinklage into a telepod, Destiny would emerge out the other side, and the reviewer thought it was fun, if not epic.

CynicismKills said:

See, you say that but all you spout is



Instead of trying to make a point, you dismiss anything important by being a blind PC fanboy. Instead of "fuck it not on PC who cares" why not either talk about the game's various reviews, or ignore it since you can't play it/won't bother to buy it?

For a board so against the mindset of things like 4chan's /v/, there's a staggering amount of similarities.

Click to expand...

Whoa... whoa.... where did I use profanity in anything I said? I am sorry if my response set off one of your sore spots. You've clearly been hearing a lot of complaints elsewhere about Destiny not being made for the PC. (Hmmmm... I wonder why that is.....)

Gryfter said:

Whoa... whoa.... where did I use profanity in anything I said? I am sorry if my response set off one of your sore spots. You've clearly been hearing a lot of complaints elsewhere about Destiny not being made for the PC. (Hmmmm... I wonder why that is.....)

Click to expand...

Maybe this thread needs a trigger warning.

CynicismKills said:

Alright, so we're both Charlies in the end.

Then instead of whining about NO PC WEH WEH, why not look into reviews and see if the game is even worth wanting? PC gamers bitch about not getting games that consoles do, but are the games worth worrying about to begin with?

Click to expand...

This is not true... like at all.

Meh. I have no real dog in the fight.

On topic, I think I'll skip it for now at least. Oh well. Maybe I'll pick up borderlands 2 instead.

- Michael, Ray, and Geoff play Destiny. Honestly looks pretty good.

Bowielee said:

This is not true... like at all.

Click to expand...

Eh... Last of Us and GTA5 spring to mind immediately. Though, yes, I'm aware that a PC version of GTA5 has been announced.

And it's gonna be far better

Rented from Redbox for PS3 today, will let you know.

bhamv3 said:

Eh... Last of Us

Click to expand...

There are plenty of other serviceable post-apocalyptic zombie games on PC, anyway.

ThatNickGuy said:

There are plenty of other serviceable post-apocalyptic zombie games on PC, anyway.

Click to expand...

That's kind of a weak statement though. Which ones, the top-down tower defense? The survival type games that are all the rage now? Left 4 Dead? These are all different kinds of games from each other, and from The Last of Us.

I'm not one of the people who adored The Last of Us, but if you're going to cut it that simply, there's plenty of any kind of game on anything. No one should feel they're missing out on Destiny because there are plenty of MMOs. No one should care that GTA5 wasn't on PC, because other sandbox games already were. None of it should matter if there's alternatives?

Zero Esc said:

That's kind of a weak statement though. Which ones, the top-down tower defense? The survival type games that are all the rage now? Left 4 Dead? These are all different kinds of games from each other, and from The Last of Us.

I'm not one of the people who adored The Last of Us, but if you're going to cut it that simply, there's plenty of any kind of game on anything. No one should feel they're missing out on Destiny because there are plenty of MMOs. No one should care that GTA5 wasn't on PC, because other sandbox games already were. None of it should matter if there's alternatives?

Click to expand...

Getting pissed because one console or another or PC has an exclusive is beyond stupid. The point I was making earlier is that I've never seen significant backlash because game A wasn't available across all platforms.

Bowielee said:

Getting pissed because one console or another or PC has an exclusive is beyond stupid. The point I was making earlier is that I've never seen significant backlash because game A wasn't available across all platforms.

Click to expand...

Getting pissed is stupid, sure, but it's not like one game can't be unique from another, and it's understandable if someone wishes they could play an exclusive game, but can't be buying every console or a strong enough PC.

Zero Esc said:

Getting pissed is stupid, sure, but it's not like one game can't be unique from another, and it's understandable if someone wishes they could play an exclusive game, but can't be buying every console or a strong enough PC.

Click to expand...

This all started from this exact quote from CynacismKills: PC gamers bitch about not getting games that consoles do

I was refuting that point, because I haven't heard said bitching.

Most of the bitching I've recalled seeing was more "We're not getting that game YET" than anything else. Most games do eventually wind up on PC, except it seems Sports games. Or maybe I just don't pay attention to those...

Actually, do many Japanese-developed titles eventually get to PC? It seems like they wouldn't.

Bowielee said:

This all started from this exact quote from CynacismKills: PC gamers bitch about not getting games that consoles do

I was refuting that point, because I haven't heard said bitching.

Click to expand...

It did happen with The Last of Us. "Bitching" may be putting it strongly, but there was certainly befuddlement a while before The Last of Us released. I think a lot of people (myself included) just assumed it was going to get a PC port; it seemed like that kind of game for some reason. I was surprised to find out it was PS3 exclusive, meaning only that, no PC, nothing Microsoft could've touched.

Zero Esc said:

It did happen with The Last of Us. "Bitching" may be putting it strongly, but there was certainly befuddlement a while before The Last of Us released. I think a lot of people (myself included) just assumed it was going to get a PC port; it seemed like that kind of game for some reason. I was surprised to find out it was PS3 exclusive, meaning only that, no PC, nothing Microsoft could've touched.

Click to expand...

Well, it was developed by naughty dog, which means everyone should already know it's a ps3 exclusive. That's be like expecting a new God of War game to get a PC release.

I hate to defend Arthur Gies (the guy that said Diablo 3 was above criticism) but a stopped clock is right twice a day. This is him getting reamed by Hiphopgamer (a youtuber I think) about his 6/10 review of Destiny.

It's been a long time since I bothered reading a "critical" game review. When I want to know about a game now, I go on youtube and look for gameplay videos. If people are playing it and it looks fun and awesome, I'll be more interested in it. If it looks annoying, really twitchy, or extremely demanding of qualities I don't have, I lose interest.

One of the problems with critics in general is that it's hard to trust that they're giving an honest opinion instead of crafting an image - ie the whole hipster mindset: "Yeah, I'm sure a lot of casuals or people who don't know any better like it, but it just doesn't meet MY standards. I demand more of a game than regular people." etc. Then there's the question of what a critical number score even means. What's the difference between a 7.8 and a 9.1? Between a 6.0 and a 7.8? Is it some sort of exponent of quantified fun? Is it an expression of technical achievement, regardless of subjective fun? And then there's the critics who basically miss the fucking point: people who criticize sandbox games for not being linear, people who criticize JRPGs for being anime-flavored and grindy, people who criticize retro side-scrolling beat'em ups for having an excuse plot.

A reviewer who explains their subjective experience is a lot more valuable to me than someone who gives a brief summary of what they didn't like and a number. I have no idea if Gran Turismo 6 is a 6.5 or 7.4 or 8.8 - I do know that it's a visually stunning game with a humongous variety of vehicles to experience, with a few flaws that are noticeable even if most of the time they don't ruin the experience (with one major exception). The car roster, for instance, has almost 1200 cars - but when you look, there's almost 20 varieties of Mazda RX-7, half a dozen Toyota Vitz's, at least 4 different versions of the fucking Prius, and yet some glaring omissions: the Pontiac GTO is a 64 Le Mans Tempest or the 5.7 2004 GTO that was a rebadged Holden Monaro, not the 69 Judge (which would be the one to have); none of the cool British Fords like the Escort or Sierra Cosworth or Capri; no Hennessey hypercars... And the programmer who decided to include Kart racing instead of drag racing should be fed alive to a pool of lampreys.

Same. Can't trust most official review sites anymore.

I just watch a quick look of the PS3 version and it actually loads faster and plays the same as the next gen versions. Obviously a good chunk of the more advanced effects are gone and there's a bit more aliasing, but the gameplay remains unchanged. So, I could get this if I wanted to. I prefer to watch quick looks to reading reviews. When I can actually see what the game is like, I can make my own decisions.

So, all things considered, this game is going to get a big old pass from me.

That right there may be one of the better reviews of GT6 I've ever heard.[DOUBLEPOST=1410708202,1410707924][/DOUBLEPOST]That all said, I'm enjoying Destiny a lot right now. It's definitely not a "10 year IP" or whatever the shit Activision tried to claim when they announced it, but it's a decent little MMO-style shooter that is less grindy than Firefall, looks pretty decent, and I have a good time playing with friends. We'll see how I feel when I get to level 20 and the endgame grind (such as it is) really begins, but I've enjoyed the 4-ish hours I played so far a great deal.

I enjoyed what I played of it, only made it to level 8 in a half a day. I liked that there was no difficulty setting, and that the game's "levels" ramp up enemy AI to coincide with your difficulty, but you can still go back to previous levels to search, play, and grind if you like. I was never a big fan of deathmatch, have only a couple of online friends, and never use voice communication, so the automatic co-op in parts of levels and missions is welcome. It wasn't as RPG as I thought, but then I didn't follow along with all the internet articles written about it, since I figured I wouldn't be buying it (having no next-gen console, nor a 1080p hdtv). I would rent it again, but no plans to buy.

I've basically heard that it's boring and grindy, but has great controls and is really pretty.

Bowielee said:

I've basically heard that it's boring and grindy, but has great controls and is really pretty.

Click to expand...

In the RT Let's Play of Destiny I posted, Ray, Geoff, and Michael were discussing it in comparison to Diablo 3 and Borderlands, and basically agreed that "completing the game is just the start of the game" - ie you keep playing through at higher challenge levels, acquire better loot, change up your skills to better suit your play-style or for self-imposed challenge, etc.

If it were a single player game, it would be too short and kind of insulting for what you get. But it's an MMORPG - grinding to build up your character is kind of the point of the game.

Yes, but that grinding itself has to be fun, and that's not what I've been hearing anecdotally by people who bought the game. They've said that it's repetitive. Opinions may change as they get further in the game, but that's what I've heard so far. I'll wait on that to see if I'll ever get the game or not. Good thing about waiting on a PC version is that there will be a definite comprehensive overview of what to expect by then.

And of course what kind of expansions start coming out, as well.

Bowielee said:

Yes, but that grinding itself has to be fun,

Click to expand...

Yeah, not everyone can get away with it like WoW.

Still very much enjoying it. The raid they launched Tuesday is hard as fuck.

Apparently they're doing a patch that fixes the Cryptarch in Destiny- now epigrams that are unlocked will be their level or higher, so no more purple epigrams turning into rares instead of legendaries, starting next week. But don't hoard the ones you've got - purples collected before the patch and unlocked after will be rares.

I don't have the game, but I found it really interesting how Michael, Gus, and Jack were talking about it on the RT Podcast - how basically for the first week or so you have to do a lot of grinding for gear, but once you have a good set, you can really enjoy the game. Michael also pointed out that apparently loot in the Crucible is random - he logged in to a match, got like one kill, then went and washed the dishes, and at the end of the match, was awarded like an exotic fusion rifle or something.

I picked up an exotic rocket launcher after ending up only in the middle of the pack during a control match. Dude at the bottom of the pile got a legendary engram. Their post-mission/match reward system seems rather random.

Not complainin' though.

I was reading something earlier this week that said that the crucible rewards tend to be weighted toward the things you do the least. So, if you have a lot of kills with auto rifles,, but 0 kills with hand cannons, it will increase the probability of giving you hand cannons. If you don't play crucible much at all, it increases the rarity chances. That's why you see some schmuck who goes 1 & 25 getting the exotic weapon.

Anyways, I'm finally getting the chance to play this a lot & I like it. It's very... grindy though. Whole lotta faction grinding for gear seems like. The campaign is extremely short. I'm having fun, but there's a whole lotta things that make you scratch your head & wonder why the hell bungie did them in the first place.

The engrams situation is the first thing. There never should have been coding in the first place that allowed engrams to downgrade. Then, when they patch it, they fuck that up too because they make sure to specify it will only apply to engrams that drop post-patch. And OH BTW - if you're saving any purples for the patch - don't cause once the patch hits we're just gonna go ahead & downgrade them to blue anyways. THEN they have the balls to joke about it in their patch notes, saying "Let's be honest, it was probably gonna just be a blue anyways" Sounds to me like they've overthought the coding.

Then there's the other problem - you can only have 1 exotic weapon & 1 piece of exotic gear equipped at a time.

Oh! and...

And to prove the point, running the weekly nightfall heroic strike earlier this week I was rewarded with a lovely legendary hand cannon.

At that point I had 0 (zero) hand cannon kills...

Now that I've played a month, I think Destiny is the perfect game to play when you're not currently playing other games.

It's not super-compelling or deep so it won't get in the way of other games that show up at my door (both Shadow of Mordor and Borderlands are getting acquired some time in the next month or two), but the actual gameplay is just tuned well enough that if I feel like I need a palate cleanser in-between other things it will serve perfectly, and you can get stuff done in 20 min.