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Science fiction? Environmentally related, ala The World Without Us (sort of)? People with bows and arrows ala The Hunger Games?

Oh, I am so down for this when it comes out this Fall.

I struggle with the believability of the premise, but I can put that aside under the heading of magic shit and enjoy the setting.

I'll definitely check it out

Looks cool, though I agree that there better be some magic shit in that premise.

I kinda hope it's not magic. I don't see what's not to buy. Electricity doesn't work anymore, somehow. That would affect cars, too, would it not? Gas might get it to run, but you still need car batteries to start them up.

Then again, science is one of my worst subjects, so I don't know.

ThatNickGuy said:

I kinda hope it's not magic. I don't see what's not to buy. Electricity doesn't work anymore, somehow. That would affect cars, too, would it not? Gas might get it to run, but you still need car batteries to start them up.

Then again, science is one of my worst subjects, so I don't know.

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If electricity somehow just stopped working, everywhere, regardless of source, then everyone would die. Electrical impulses control the nervous system.

Ravenpoe said:

If electricity somehow just stopped working, everywhere, regardless if source, then everyone would die. Electrical impulses control the nervous system.

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Weeeell not exactly. Things that interfere with electricity (like magnets) don't interfere with our nervous system.

ThatNickGuy said:

I kinda hope it's not magic.

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It's Time Travel.

Yeah, I couldn't think of a simple mechanism that would stop gas engines from running, but would allow guns. A gas engine is just an automatic weapon with a bullet that never leaves the barrel. Presumably mechanical devices like the wheel and lever still work, so as long as one can create an explosion one can create an engine that runs off that explosion.

Still, I long ago invested in industrial strength suspenders of disbelief, so as long as the story is good I'll enjoy it. Until it turns into a prime time soap opera, anyway.

Chad Sexington said:

Weeeell not exactly. Things that interfere with electricity (like magnets) don't interfere with our nervous system.

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Magnets wouldn't stop spark plugs either...

Tinwhistler said:

I agree with poe...if something causes all electricity to stop working, complex life as we know it stops working.

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You're both wrong...

It would stop the universe from working, as it's one of the fundamental forces... they don't call them electrons for nothing you know...

You know what I dig about shows like Game of Thrones? Not everyone on it is gorgeous. They have some real CHUDs.

Everybody on that Revolution show is very good looking. Even the fat nerdy dude is a good looking fat nerdy dude.

Ugly naked women does help with the eye rolling at all the pointless sex scenes Game of Thrones has...

Anyone else getting an "Escape from Las Angeles" vibe when it comes to the premise? Are we going to find out it's a bunch of space satellites, and the USB stick that guy holds is the only thing with the codes to turn it off, thus why the ruling government wants him?

Obviously electricity doesn't work because they're really in purgatory.

NU UH PEZ!

The writers specifically said they weren't in purgatory in like season 3.

I swear, if this is all the work of some Egyptian god that can turn into black smoke or something that isn't explained until two thirds of the way through the last season that only creates more mind-boggling questions than the answers it's meant to, I...

Wait, hang on, what was I talking about again?

Anyone know where the music at 1:50 to 2:34 is from? I'd thought it was from Mass Effect because of another trailer for ME3, but I doubt NBC would use game music.

And since no one's said it yet...

HOLY SHIT IT'S GUS!

Ravenpoe said:

And since no one's said it yet...

HOLY SHIT IT'S GUS!

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massive Breaking Bad Season 4 spoiler joke

My prediction? It'll get cancelled after the second season, leaving a helluva lot of questions unanswered and no executive giving a flying fuck about it.

Yes, I'm a little hurt they did that to Jericho.

Charlie Don't Surf said:

massive Breaking Bad Season 4 spoiler joke

Spoiler

I'm glad he was able to save face

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There was a show on Fox that got cancelled as NR predicted. John Doe. Loved that fucking show...cancelled after one season.

I'm hopnig this doesn't happen to this one.

John Doe was pretty cool. I remember that being on around the same time as another quickly cancelled, little known Fox show. I can't remember the name. It has some sort of bug in the title. Like, a firey bug.

Yup. I think all the shows that were on in that hour in half got cancelled.

I kind of liked the show Fastlane. It was a brazen attempt to make "Fast and the Furious" the TV show, but I liked the chemistry between the two main guys. Also Tiffany Amber Theissen was a pretty cool random cop/boss type character. I think it replaced Firefly at midseason and got cancelled real fast too

That show had Peter Facinelli. It's hard to take him seriously anymore.

@Li3n said:

Magnets wouldn't stop spark plugs either...



You're both wrong...

It would stop the universe from working, as it's one of the fundamental forces... they don't call them electrons for nothing you know...

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THIS A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!

We had a thread on this. And I hate the idea of electricity magically vamping out. It's just not fucking possible unless you're in another universe or something.

And if it is that - suddenly the electro-magnetic force of the universe craps out, well, then we won't just all be dead. Everything, and I mean everything will break apart into fundamental particles. Chemistry as we know it would just...stop.

This show looks like someone at NBC watched a little too much Die Hard 4 and Mad Max.

Quotemander Prime said:

Anyone know where the music at 1:50 to 2:34 is from? I'd thought it was from Mass Effect because of another trailer for ME3, but I doubt NBC would use game music.

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Vast kicks ass

VAST is the second tune in the vid.

He's talking about the Two Steps from Hell tune, which was in a Mass Effect 2 trailer (and a bunch of others).



All Two Steps from Hell produces is music meant for trailers.

Mathias said:

Vast kicks ass

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Not the music to which he was referring... But, thanks, because that is great!

VAST is awesome.

Two more musical artists to add to my amazon wishlist...

I was under the impression Two Steps From Hell didn't release their music publicly, but I guess that hasn't been true for years now looking it up. Me and you both Steinman.

I don't give a fuck about science in works of fiction. Fuck all those words, man. I'm going to watch the show and suspend my disbelief.

Sheldon for 2007 Aug 15

Charlie Don't Surf said:

I don't give a fuck about science in works of fiction. Fuck all those words, man. I'm going to watch the show and suspend my disbelief.

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I generally don't mind. Take the Avengers for example. None of those dudes could or can exist, but it's fun.

I just can't wrap my mind around wiping out a fundamental force of the universe. The only way I'll bite is if there was a huge solar flare that wiped out the entire electrical grid of the world, and melted the brain of anyone with any knowledge of physics and engineering.

This does not look good.

Mathias said:

THIS A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!

We had a thread on this. And I hate the idea of electricity magically vamping out. It's just not fucking possible unless you're in another universe or something.

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Of course, electricity didn't crap out, the whole planet fell into another universe where only heart shaped lockets are capable of conductivity (did i spell this right?)...

Then in the final season they find a world where electricity works normally and it turns out it's purgatory... ELECTRICITY IS THE DEVIL!!!!

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Of course, electricity didn't crap out, the whole planet fell into another universe where only heart shaped lockets are capable of conductivity (did i spell this right?)...

Then in the final season they find a world where electricity works normally and it turns out it's purgatory... ELECTRICITY IS THE DEVIL!!!!

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THE AMISH WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!

Fucking Amish.

They're pretty strict about that too.

Well, it's on tonight. I know what I'll be doing at 10pm.

http://www.nbc.com/revolution/

Wonder why they stuck it in such a late slot, though? Is it closer to PG-13 than PG? They've been advertising the heck out of it for weeks now - I haven't been able to watch AGT without seeing an animation overlay during AGT advertising the show. (advertising overlays are the new way to fight DVR commercial skippers like me). (Yes, AGT is my guilty pleasure. But I don't watch any other reality show, and I can quit anytime I want to! Right after I watch the comedian again. And the mentalist's act. Oh who am I kidding anyway, I'm just glad it's done for the season)[DOUBLEPOST=1347900605][/DOUBLEPOST]Well shoot, why wait? Apparently the pilot is available on NBC's site right now. Curse having a job and having to work during the day!

http://www.nbc.com/revolution/video/pilot/1415378

Interesting premise. Not sure if I buy it. I'll give it a shot for Giancarlo Esposito.

checkeredhat said:

Interesting premise. Not sure if I buy it. I'll give it a shot for Giancarlo Esposito.

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Why do guns work and cars don't? For that matter steam engines. Also 15 years and the government and society collapses into a wild tribal society? Electricity isn't that old, we wouldn't suddenly turn into the middle ages. Could large urban areas survive at the size they are now without electricity? Probably not but they wouldn't be completely abandoned.

There are just to many stupid assumptions I'm expected to believe to make me care about this. Just feels like a lack of effort put into it.

My hope is that either 1) they aren't stupid and they'll have reasonable (ie, not requiring industrial suspenders of disbelief) explanations or 2) they'll invoke "magic" and the things that don't work are that way due to some force or power that is picky and choosy about what works and what doesn't, meaning it needn't be entirely consistent.

But if this is another Lost I will be disappointed.

due to some force or power that is picky and choosy about what works and what doesn't, meaning it needn't be entirely consistent

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Lazy writing?

Okay...bad-ass uncle with a sword taking on militia people. I am watching this.

"Hey guys, know what's popular right now? The Hunger Games."

Basically, yeah.

The pilot was released online by NBC a little while ago. I had a chance to check it out. And honestly, if you saw the trailer, you more or less saw the pilot. It's not bad, but I wouldn't call it out-of-the-gate awesome like other shows, like Lost, 24, or Walking Dead.

The pacing had me wanting to know at points when it was going to end, but I enjoyed it overall. It'll fill the sci-fi gap since Eureka's cancellation.

This one breaks my willing suspension of disbelief, to the point where I won't be watching.

I read somewhere that they have - or had - some experts working with them during development. How much of that expertise was used and/or followed is another thing, of course.

ThatNickGuy said:

I read somewhere that they have - or had - some experts working with them during development. How much of that expertise was used and/or followed is another thing, of course.

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I'm super sceptical about TV shows that have 'experts'. They will sacrifice all expertise in a heartbeat for drama or plot convenience.

Cop shows have experts and former cops, but they still have bizarre nonsense, like tracing 911 calls (we now have Enhanced 911 which gives all the information related to a phone number, which makes 'tracing' a call basically unnecessary), the 'one phone call' rule, evidence that takes minutes to come back, etc, etc.

Hospital shows still shock flatlines (you can only defibrillate certain rhythms, a dead person is dead. You can shock 'em but it won't do much), they don't intubate correctly most of the time, they hurl out nonsense diagnoses...

Hey, the bad guy brands people like cattle, so it can't be all bad.

There are some mild spoilers contained in this post about episodes that have already aired.

Episode 1:

The first episode basically explained the characters and setting. We now know that the main story is going to be saving the brother of the protagonist, and the overarching story is how to get the power back on (and probably whether it is wise to do so or not). We know there are limited circumstances where people can use power.

Episode 2:

More character development, introduce a few new characters and provide them with short backstory, skills, and motivations. Move closer to being able to save dear brother, and find out that among those that can use power, there is some disagreement and/or infighting. Demonstrate that protagonist has been mislead in some things. Find out more about the interpersonal connections important characters have with each other.

Summary:

I'm just not interested in the characters. They are all cookie cutter tropes with few nuances, thrown into uninteresting situations. It's all very black and white - there are good guys with good motivations, and bad guys with bad motivations. To some degree it feels much like lost in terms of how the show unrolls as a mystery, adding question on question with few answers - which would be ok if the questions were even a little compelling. Further, it just stretches on and on - like Bilbo intones, the plot feels "thin. Sort of stretched, like... butter scraped over too much bread." I'll watch another episode or two to see if things become less formulaic, but if it doesn't get better I see myself ignoring it until the show ends, then reading the wikipedia plot summary rather than sitting through the whole thing.

Yeah, I'll be honest. Even though I enjoyed parts of the first episode, I'm not finding myself motivated to keep watching. When I looked at the latest episode listed on EZTV last night, my first reaction was, "Eh," which isn't a good sign. I don't think I'll bother with it anymore.

I've heard this show was incredibly terrible and just dumb. I'll be watching the Avengers and playing WoW or Torchlight II instead.

The one thing that took me out of the show was the main character's immaculate leather pants.

"I'm going on a long trip that will involve danger, fighting, and walking long distances. My leather pants will be the perfect wardrobe for this adventure." Said nobody ever in the history of mankind.

Sure there are plenty of other parts that were... bad or uninteresting but the leather pants were just too ridiculous.

stienman said:

whether it is wise to do so or not

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As someone who earlier this year got to witness the christening of his twin cousins who were two months premature, that is one of the dumbest debates I've ever seen. Never mind the fact that we're able to converse in real-time with people on the other side of the world, and have more information available to a much larger percent of the world population.

Seriously, just from reading and seeing clips of this show, it sounds like a lazily written, pretentious piece of shit.

Castle > revolution

stienman said:

Castle > most shows

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Fixed that for ya.