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Mythical myths and legendary legends

#1

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Where we talk bout the thing on the title.

My personal favorite myth would have to be the black shuck a Celtic myth about a black spectral dog. In legend, it is usually a person celtic decent who sees the black shuck. The black shuck which can mean many things, is usually an omen of bad things to come. If one were to go near it, the dog will usually bark at them and then disapear. The person is usually met with misfortune and usually this involves death. Is also the basis for the monster in "The hound of Baskervilles" by Sherlocke Holmes.


#2



SeraRelm



#3

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Something about that being upside down just killed me. Wow, I have tears in my eyes.


#4

Mathias

Mathias



Yeah, you're a fucking retard.


#5

Mathias

Mathias

Something about that being upside down just killed me. Wow, I have tears in my eyes.
What's so funny? That she's being a deliberate douche?


#6

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

One page in, and we all-ready have our religion debate. HUZZAH!


#7

Mathias

Mathias

Not really, I'm pretty agnostic, but that doesn't mean I'm going to douche up a pretty good thread idea by posting things that'll kick it straight to oblivion.


#8

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

What's so funny? That she's being a deliberate douche?
As someone who tries to promote religious tolerance due to the boredom that comes from having that same old debate again, I really shouldn't make any jokes.

Why are you so cranky? You're acting like someone murdered your savior.


#9



SeraRelm

¿ɯɐǝɹʇsuıɐɯ os s,ʇı ʇɐɥʇ sı ɹo 'pɐǝɹɥʇ ʎƃoloɥʇʎɯ ǝɥʇ uı sƃuıǝq lɐɔıƃoloɥʇʎɯ ʇsod oʇ pǝʍollɐ ʇou I ɯ∀


#10

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

What's so funny? That she's being a deliberate douche?


#11

Mathias

Mathias

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

I LOVE LAME JOKES TOO!


#12

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

AWESOME! :brofist:


#13



SeraRelm

˙ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ǝq llıʍ ƃuıuıɐɹʇ ɹnoʎ uooS ˙ʇɹnɥʇʇnq ǝɥʇ oʇuı ǝʌıפ ˙poooooפ


#14

Mathias

Mathias



#15

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Long ago, there were a number of lonely lumberjacks working in the center of a very large forest. They cut down mammoth trees and watched them crash into the thick snow in exactly the place where they said the trees would land. They would cut up the trees and haul them hither and thither. They worked hard, Mon Dieu, very hard indeed! But they were lonely for the women they had left behind.

On New Years Day, it snowed so hard no work could be done. The men huddled in their camp and spoke longingly of their home. They passed around the rum and drank toasts to the New Year, but finally Baptiste said what they were all thinking: "I wish to go home today and see my girl!" There were murmurs of agreement, but Jean replied: "How can we go home today? There is more than two meters of snow on the road, and more snow is falling."

"Who said we were walking out of here?" asked Baptiste. "I am going to paddle out in my canoe." Now the men all knew that Baptiste had a canoe with paddles out back of the camp. Baptiste had made a pact with the devil. If the devil would make the canoe fly wherever Baptiste wished, the lumberjack would not say Mass for an entire year. However, if Baptiste did not return the canoe before dawn of the day after he used it, the devil could keep his soul. While Baptiste and his companions were in la chasse-gallerie, they could not say the name of God or fly over a church or touch any crosses, or the canoe would crash.

Many of the men refused to participate in Baptiste's New Years scheme, but he managed to find seven companions to fly with him in the canoe back to their home town to visit their women. Baptiste and his friends got into the canoe, and Baptiste said the magic words: "Acabris! Acabras! Acabram!"

When Baptiste was done binding himself to the devil, the canoe rose into the air and the men began to paddle their way through the sky to their home. Their womenfolk were so glad to see them! They celebrated long into the night, drinking and dancing. It was close to dawn when the men realized they had to return the canoe to the lumber camp by dawn or forfeit their souls. They searched for Baptiste, and found him as drunk as a lord, lying under a table at the inn. They bundled him into the canoe, spoke the magic words, and paddled away. Knowing that Baptiste would start swearing if they woke him, one of the men tied him up and gagged him so he would not speak the name of God at an inopportune moment and crash the canoe.

When Baptiste awoke, he sat up, struggling with the ropes that bound him. He managed to loosen the gag, and shouted: "Mon Dieu, why have you tied me up?"

At the name of God, the canoe took a nose-dive, plunging towards the ground. It hit the top of a large pine tree and all the men tumbled out and fell down, down into the darkness just before dawn. They were never seen again!


#16



makare

I always love greek legends.

Also not sure if it counts but I love stories about fairies. All kids, the old scary ones the new froofy ones and even the new scary ones. Fae are coo.


#17

Mathias

Mathias

My favorite legends are Norse/Bavarian type deals that involve trolls, elfs, and gnomes.


#18

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

I always love greek legends.

Also not sure if it counts but I love stories about fairies. All kids, the old scary ones the new froofy ones and even the new scary ones. Fae are coo.
Yes and yes. I know more about Greek legeneds, but I like learning about fae as well. The twelve labors of Heracles is probably one of my favorites, that dude kicked ASS! Though he did unnessacarily murder quite a few people.

I'm also big on Shintoism. Susano vs. Orochi is one of my favorites! He kills Orochi by getting him drunk first. That...that is GENIUS!


#19

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

I always enjoyed Norse mythology growing up... the more I've learned of it since reaching maturity, the more I've come to appreciate it.


#20

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I have to say the one that's stayed with me the longest as a favorite over the years is Elizabeth Bathory. I mean I idolize alot of the serial killers from the 1800s-1940s due to their ability to move so freely when there was so little police knowledge to help stop or catch them but Elizabeth's story is easily what I'd imagine myself doing if I had been in her capacity.


#21

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster


Spring-heeled Jack. This guy was one of my favorite vigilantes as a kid. Dude could jump up tall buildings, had razor sharp claws and could breathe fire. FIRE! To this day no-one is sure who he is.


#22

Bowielee

Bowielee

I've always loved the Greek/Roman mythology and Norse best. I guess I just like the concept of pantheons of gods that are just as likely to turn you to stone as to help your crops grow.


#23

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

I've always loved the Greek/Roman mythology and Norse best. I guess I just like the concept of pantheons of gods that are just as likely to turn you to stone as to help your crops grow.
Man what didn't turn you to stone in those myths? Basilisks, Gorgons, Zeus, it was a pretty common plot ending.

You know who I feel sad for? The Cyclops. These 3 dudes made all the magical items and all of them end up being killed by the Olympians. Ungrateful jerks.


#24

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

I've always had a morbid fascination with the more bloodthirsty of historical figures - Vlad Tepes, Jack the Ripper (THERE'S a fascinating criminology/sociology case), Genghis Khan, Hitler - I can't really explain why.

I found out about the Blood Countess late in my teens, and find it a fascinating story, really... despite the fact that she was only ever convicted of a handful of victims, the claims were reliably crediting her with up to 600 or so young women.

Things that make you go "How the HELL...?"


#25

Bowielee

Bowielee

Yes, but what do they have to do with mythology?


#26

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

The Jersey Devil. Basically the mascot for all of Jersey, even having a damn hockey team based on it. When Mother Leeds was having her 13th child she said while giving birth "I don't want another child. Make it a devil." And the baby was born looking generally normal. But moments later it's nose started to grow, it sprouted wings and horns and turned into a devil! It then climbed up the chimney and flew away doing all sorts of crazy devil stuff. Modern historians believe the devil to be a deformed retarded child that was ridiculed it's whole life and word turned the child into a full on monster. I still like to believe he's the ol' fire breathing monster I've loved since I was a kid though.

And Vlad and the Blood Countess do technically count seing as how Vlad is the partial basis for the character Count Dracula.


#27

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

Yes, but what do they have to do with mythology?
Because, in the course of telling their stories, these historical characters have their stories distorted, skewed, and linked to myths (Vlad Tepes -> Dracula being the most prominent).

That sort of drift has always been fascinating...


#28



SeraRelm

uɐpnɐʌéפ np ǝʇêq ɐ˥


#29



makare

I also like a lot of native american myth and african myth as well.


My favorite greek myths are usuallyabout the gods throwing giant shitfits and being, ahem, petty and cruel.

I like the myths of niobe and arachne for that.


#30

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Because, in the course of telling their stories, these historical characters have their stories distorted, skewed, and linked to myths (Vlad Tepes -> Dracula being the most prominent).

That sort of drift has always been fascinating...
The stories told of most serial killers before the 40s are myth and legend due to the fact that there are so FEW provable facts and most of it are stories told from generation to generation.


#31

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Dragons, just about any folk-lore from Europe to Mexico. I just find it fascinating how just about every culturlle has a legend about reptile people be they good or evil. Maybe it is a distant memory of reptilian people, maybe not. All I know is I friggin' LOVE em. My favorit dragon has to be the fire-drake, a basic dragon but still threatening.


#32



SeraRelm

˙˙˙ʇnq ƃuıʇsǝɹǝʇuı sı ǝɹnʇɐǝɹɔ lɐɔıƃoloɥʇʎɯ ɐ ɟo ɐǝpı ǝɥ┴
...there is so much in reality that just blows my mind. I can't look at mythology with anything beyond mild interest when faced with the wonders the universe has to offer. At most, I'm more interested in the society which spawned said myths.


#33

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

˙˙˙ʇnq ƃuıʇsǝɹǝʇuı sı ǝɹnʇɐǝɹɔ lɐɔıƃoloɥʇʎɯ ɐ ɟo ɐǝpı ǝɥ┴
...there is so much in reality that just blows my mind. I can't look at mythology with anything beyond mild interest when faced with the wonders the universe has to offer. At most, I'm more interested in the society which spawned said myths.
That's a good point. Zeus was most likely created as a way to explain the phenomena of lightning.


#34



makare

oooo yes dragons!

I love dragons.


#35

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

You know the dragon ball is based on mystical orbs that dragons had in mythology? They were said to allow the dragons to acend to the heavens.


#36

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

¿ɯɐǝɹʇsuıɐɯ os s,ʇı ʇɐɥʇ sı ɹo 'pɐǝɹɥʇ ʎƃoloɥʇʎɯ ǝɥʇ uı sƃuıǝq lɐɔıƃoloɥʇʎɯ ʇsod oʇ pǝʍollɐ ʇou I ɯ∀
Yes, that's what the thread is about. But you aren't saying anything about this mythical character, and I don't think it's your favourite one. It's not difficult to infer you are just trolling. Of course, I may be wrong, but that's just a polite way of ending this post.


#37



SeraRelm

Yes, that's what the thread is about. But you aren't saying anything about this mythical character, and I don't think it's your favourite one. It's not difficult to infer you are just trolling. Of course, I may be wrong, but that's just a polite way of ending this post.
Where we talk bout the thing on the title.
No one said it had to be a favorite. But what is there to say? A magic (soon to be zombie) man who claims to be the son of a god, transmogrifies substances, ignores the consistency of the matter upon which he treads and gives good metaphorical advice on some subjects. Not as cool as a lightning wielding blond with a magic hammer or a toga toting strongman who beat up snakes as a baby, but still pretty interesting.


#38



makare

and then the romans were like AVADA KADAVRA!


#39

Bowielee

Bowielee

For the record, I'm a staunch atheist, but I really do like the mythology of Christ. There's some good stuff in there. Real or fictional, he did give some damn good advice.


#40

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

No one said it had to be a favorite. But what is there to say? A magic (soon to be zombie) man who claims to be the son of a god, transmogrifies substances, ignores the consistency of the matter upon which he treads and gives good metaphorical advice on some subjects. Not as cool as a lightning wielding blond with a magic hammer or a toga toting strongman who beat up snakes as a baby, but still pretty interesting.
Well, inside his myth, he is the son of god. He is not as metal as thor or hercules, but I agree, I think he is a pretty interesting character which has a very powerful element in his story: the fact that he is an all powerful god that becomes human to try and change the world from "our" side and suffers a lot because of it. Of course, as this story is so ingrained in our culture, it's very hard to see this as all that interesting.


#41

Bowielee

Bowielee

What I don't understand is why some atheists feel the need to evangelize it so much...

Then again, many atheists I know are just mad at god for whatever reason(how can he allow evil, etc...), which kind of makes them the opposite of atheists.


#42

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

What I don't understand is why some atheists feel the need to evangelize it so much...

Then again, many atheists I know are just mad at god for whatever reason(how can he allow evil, etc...), which kind of makes them the opposite of atheists.
I can understand getting angry at people trying to tell you how to live your life and what to believe because it's a divinely revealed truth.


#43

Bowielee

Bowielee

I can understand that too, but too often it's almost compulsive to some people to point prove how much of an atheist they are at any given opportunity.

I kind of view it the same as being gay. I'm certainly comfortable with myself and live an openly gay lifestyle, but I don't feel the need to break into a dating thread on here and go on a tyrade about how glorious buttsex is.


#44

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

On the topic of atheists, anti-theists. These are people who believe it is wrong for people to have any theology because it goes against our normal societal evolution. While I ain't the most religious person, I definitely know this to be false. How many pieces of art-work were based on Christ? How many laws were made based on the ten commandments. Religion is yes, a set of rules and practices but it is through these rules and practices that have brought order to many societies and helped them advance. Until they met someone with opposing views, then shit got crazy.

BOT, Gnomes. Gnomes are FUCKIN scary man. They can run at 35 miles an hour, have the strength of seven men, can make people feel depressed, they are freakin' deadly! Enemy to the trolls.


#45

Mathias

Mathias

No one said it had to be a favorite. But what is there to say? A magic (soon to be zombie) man who claims to be the son of a god, transmogrifies substances, ignores the consistency of the matter upon which he treads and gives good metaphorical advice on some subjects. Not as cool as a lightning wielding blond with a magic hammer or a toga toting strongman who beat up snakes as a baby, but still pretty interesting.

Oh grow the fuck up. You were just trying to trololol and be a smartass. Just shut the fuck up.


#46

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

I admit a liking for dragons, whether we are discussing them as celestial sages or fire-breathing monsters. Medieval bestiaries are also a hoot to read, with strange monsters such as a cow that defends itself by turning around and spraying any would-be attacker with acidic shit. Even stranger are the depictions of real animals. Did you know for instance that hyenas were believed to be androgynous and capable of breeding all by themselves?


#47



SeraRelm

On the topic of atheists, anti-theists. These are people who believe it is wrong for people to have any theology because it goes against our normal societal evolution. While I ain't the most religious person, I definitely know this to be false. How many pieces of art-work were based on Christ? How many laws were made based on the ten commandments. Religion is yes, a set of rules and practices but it is through these rules and practices that have brought order to many societies and helped them advance. Until they met someone with opposing views, then shit got crazy.
I disagree. The only two commandments that are law are the 6th and 8th commandments (the fourth is, for some silly reason, a half observed rule, though definitely not followed), but those two were laws far before any Moses making (on a side note; those artworks were breaking the first). The Romans had a rich and vast society and before the monotheists in question arrived, the Chinese and Japanese beliefs didn't include Jesus and they were doing just fine. Theology is not religion in and of itself either. It's the study of religion, and not just the Christian religion. I don't believe society needs deific religion to function, mind you, but the study of those cultural and belief systems seems prudent.

But yes, shit got crazy. Here's an example:
Oh grow the fuck up. You were just trying to trololol and be a smartass. Just shut the fuck up.


#48



Soliloquy

I've been reading Celtic and Norse mythology and there's one thing about them that really stood out: The Norse believed that their Gods would all one day be killed, and seemed to have an attitude of "Yeah, the gods won't help make things better. You gotta look out for yourselves."

The Celtics (at least in one of the stories I read) believed that many of their gods were already dead.


I'd say the mythical individual was much better than the historical figure.


#49

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Don't gods dies in Shintoism too? I think they do.


#50

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

You know, Celtic, Norse, and Greek mythologies were all once religions worshipped by people. It's very insensitive to be calling them myths, a time traveler could get very upset.


#51



Soliloquy

You know, Celtic, Norse, and Greek mythologies were all once religions worshipped by people. It's very insensitive to be calling them myths, a time traveler could get very upset.
Pfft. What's the worst that a time-traveling viking could OH GOD HE'S AFTER ME!



#52

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Don't worry, it's just a cosplayer with some high-grade special effects. The horns are a dead give-away.


#53

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Don't worry, it's just a cosplayer with some high-grade special effects. The horns are a dead give-away.
Vikings didn't wear horns? I refuse to believe this! Lalalala I can't hear you.


#54



Soliloquy

Those aren't horns. They're necessary components for his personal flux capacitor.

He told me that after chasing me down at 88mph on foot.


#55

Chippy

Chippy



#56

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

Is this thread about female orgasms?


#57

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


The tengu, probably my favorite of all obakemono. They could fly, teleport, make hurricane gusts, and talk with-out using their mouths(most likely telepathy). Probably the least used obakemono in fiction, which I think is friggi' rediciulous.


#58

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

While I find Norse mythology interesting, let's not forget they all came from a giant cow licking a salt lick, and the sweat of a giant.

Also, Zeus had a thing for doing women in the shape of animals, for some reason. Like he was up on Olympus saying "oh shit guys, bet you I can turn into a duck and put a baby in that lady" and the other Gods roll their eyes and sigh as Zeus gets quackin'.


#59

Tress

Tress

I'd say the mythical individual was much better than the historical figure.



#61

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Shoot, picture of JFK. Aaaaaaaah!



#62

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

While I find Norse mythology interesting, let's not forget they all came from a giant cow licking a salt lick, and the sweat of a giant.

Also, Zeus had a thing for doing women in the shape of animals, for some reason. Like he was up on Olympus saying "oh shit guys, bet you I can turn into a duck and put a baby in that lady" and the other Gods roll their eyes and sigh as Zeus gets quackin'.
"Whatever happened to the Zeus who would turn into a cow, and pick up chicks?" -The Simpsons


#63

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet



#64

Siska

Siska

Asgardians did the whole seduce people while in animal form too. Here is a lesser known story about Odin.

There was a giant who was the inventor of all poetry by making some kind of creative mead. Odin heard of it and decided to steal it. So he turned into an eagle and flew off and seduced the giants daughter to gain entry. He gulped up all the mead and made his escape. Now barely being able to fly, because he was so full. The giant found his daughter crying and asked what she was bawling about, she pointed at the disappearing fat eagle in the distance. The giant transformed into an eagle too, a much bigger one, and pursued Odin. He soon caught up and nipped at Odin's tail feathers. Odin was so surprised he vomited. The Giant tugged again, harder, and this time Odin crapped. Now considerable lighter, Odin was able to out-speed the giant. He made it home, Thor smashed the giant and there was now poetry in Asgard. However he had also unintentionally brought poetry to humans. All the vomit that rained down on the earth is the source of good poetry and all that rained down as crap is, well, crap poetry.

Perhaps they will mention this in the next Marvel Thor movie?


#65

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

Asgardians
Ass guardians. Lawl



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#66

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

One of my favorite books I read in high school was Beowulf. And before you say it-NO it isn't Christian progaganda. Christianity during this time wasn't even nearly as big as it is today to have the progaganding skills. So many great themes, glory, revenge, hubris, just brilliant. Plus he totally ripped off a mofos arm. One point I've heard about when he fights the dragon is that he did it not because he wanted to, but as king Beowulf he NEEDED to. He set himself up with doing all this awesome stuff when he was young and as an old man he needs to in order to live up to his own legend. And when he needs his men the most, they FUCKIN bail on him. A good metaphor for how some people have pride in great accomplishments their leaders have done to make up for the fact that they can't do shit. Viclaf tore those guys a new ass-hole at B's funeral. It wasn't until he was dying after his great battle that he truly understood that living your life is more important than one's legend.

For my opinions on that piece of ass movie I'll post it in the "Bad Interpretations" thread.


#67



makare

Hmm I'll have to reread Beowulf I don't remember it focusing on Christianity.


#68

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Hmm I'll have to reread Beowulf I don't remember it focusing on Christianity.
Not so much focus just a few themes. It's really not that noticable, but jerky Atheists like to split hair.


#69



Soliloquy

Heh... the Christianity thing in Beowulf is just a few references that most scholars believe were inserted in later by monks who were writing down the oral tradition but wanted to put their own slant on it.


#70

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Well that explains it! Plus I always did have trouble believing Hrothgar's seat was protected by god. Was a den of mead and debauchery it was, probably one of the few things in the movie they got right. Anyone ever have mead?


#71



Soliloquy

Asgardians did the whole seduce people while in animal form too. Here is a lesser known story about Odin.

There was a giant who was the inventor of all poetry by making some kind of creative mead. Odin heard of it and decided to steal it. So he turned into an eagle and flew off and seduced the giants daughter to gain entry. He gulped up all the mead and made his escape. Now barely being able to fly, because he was so full. The giant found his daughter crying and asked what she was bawling about, she pointed at the disappearing fat eagle in the distance. The giant transformed into an eagle too, a much bigger one, and pursued Odin. He soon caught up and nipped at Odin's tail feathers. Odin was so surprised he vomited. The Giant tugged again, harder, and this time Odin crapped. Now considerable lighter Odin was able to out-speed the giant. He made it home, Thor smashed the giant and there was now poetry in Asgard. However he had also unintentionally brought poetry to humans. All the vomit that rained down on the earth is the source of good poetry and all that rained down as crap is, well, crap poetry.

Perhaps they will mention this in the next Marvel Thor movie?
There's also a myth about Heimdall going around and getting it on with a bunch of people's wives and populating the entire world.


#72

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Anyone ever read an Artemis myth? Pretty much all the same really. It's someone challenges her to a hunting challenge or tries to get with her, and ends with the person dying at the end. Just saying, there's a reason she doesn't show up that much in pop-culture.


#73

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Long ago Santa Claus was searching the forest for wood to make toys. When suddenly he was attacked by a hideous troll! Santa was brave and managed to defeat the troll, but he was hurt and couldn't move. He lay there in the forest when suddenly a bunny rabbit hopped past him. Santa called out to the bunny for help, and the bunny collected as many bird eggs as he could find to nurse Santa back to health. Santa was saved! To show his appreciation to the bunny rabbit Santa created a special day just for the bunny rabbit and called it Easter. So now the Easter Bunny brings fancy eggs to all good boys and girls on Easter!


#74

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Long ago Santa Claus was searching the forest for wood to make toys. When suddenly he was attacked by a hideous troll! Santa was brave and managed to defeat the troll, but he was hurt and couldn't move. He lay there in the forest when suddenly a bunny rabbit hopped past him. Santa called out to the bunny for help, and the bunny collected as many bird eggs as he could find to nurse Santa back to health. Santa was saved! To show his appreciation to the bunny rabbit Santa created a special day just for the bunny rabbit and called it Easter. So now the Easter Bunny brings fancy eggs to all good boys and girls on Easter!
Makes more sense than any other Easter Bunny special I've seen.


#75

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

I always assumed that the Easter Bunny giving out eggs was because those little chocolate eggs they sell in stores around Easter time are usually about the size of rabbit droppings...


#76

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Well now you know and knowing is half the battle.

YO JOE!


#77

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Speaking of rabbits, you know what I find hilarious? The Jackalope. The fact that some guy saw a rabbit with horns one day and put so much weird stuff for it's powers. Ability to mimic any sound, drinks beer, apparently carniviorous, it's just so random! By the way the rabbits with horns thing is a disease that rabbits apparently have.


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