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No Matter How Big of a Beatles Fan You Are...

#1

Calleja

Calleja

REVOLUTION 9 IS NOT A SONG!!

Seriously. It's a track in the White Album, fine, just because it has a starting point somewhere, runs, and ends. But IT'S NOT A SONG!

It's.. the recorded epitome of John's Yokofication, is what I'd call it.

I mean, seriously, I dare you to listen through all 8 minutes of this:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1swOYEZBim0:3lvxtrn3][/youtube:3lvxtrn3]


#2

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I am not man enough to dare. Is it just a record hiss?


#3

Calleja

Calleja

There's no explanation that would give you an accurate depiction of it. Just listen for a minute or so, that's pretty much how it all goes, with more voices and shit.

The intro explains why 09/09/09 is gonna be Beatles Day, though.


#4

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

It's awful. I always had to skip it when I was listening to the beatles before going to sleep, as a 12 year old... or listening to it when I was goint to schoool... or every time I listened to the album, except for the rare cases in wich I tried to listen to it. I don't think I ever made it.


#5

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

I made it through it a while ago. All it did was be further support the idea that John was an asshole.


#6

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Number nine. Number nine. Number nine. Number nine. Number nine...


#7



Le Quack

I disagree.


#8

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Le Quack said:
I disagree.
*sigh* Fine...

Number eight *BELCH*. Number eight *BELCH*...


#9





DarkAudit said:
Le Quack said:
I disagree.
*sigh* Fine...

Number eight *BELCH*. Number eight *BELCH*...
*headbangs*

That shit is off the HOOK, yo!


#10

Calleja

Calleja

Allen said:
I made it through it a while ago. All it did was be further support the idea that John was an asshole.
John wasn't an asshole, though. He was pretty much using lots of drugs at this point, the strongest and unhealthiest of which was Yoko Ono.

He cleaned up after (at least chemically, he never did manage to quit Yoko on high dosages), looked after his kid, and then was killed. Tragic, more than asshole-ish.

It's sad to see footage of John from the Let it Be sessions. Hell, I'd even say there was no John in the Let it Be sessions... just... LennOno. That bitch was surgically attached to the fucker.


#11



wana10

what's this? a beat-alls thread?




ooooh, a beatles thread, my mistake :tongue:


#12



GeneralOrder24

Turn me on, dead man.


#13

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

wana10 said:
what's this? a beat-alls thread?




ooooh, a beatles thread, my mistake :tongue:
man, now there was a rock band.


#14

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

OOOHH GOOOOD MY EARS MY PRECIOUSSS EARSS!!!!!!!


#15

Calleja

Calleja

The only positive experience of having listened to Revolution 9 the whole way through several times (yes... I wanted to give John a chance, gorram it!!) is that the whole "number nine...number nine...number nine..." thing is not only catchy as fuck, but hilarious, especially if you're with people who get it.

Like the other day a few friends and I were hanging out at a golf course, just waiting for a friend to arrive, and someone mentioned a "number 9 club"... I started with the monotonous "number nine... number nine", soon to be joined by two of my more cultured friends. It becomes a THING.


number nine...number nine... lmao, hilarity.


#16





Calleja said:
the whole "number nine...number nine...number nine..." thing is not only catchy as fuck, but
...has been played out for years now.


#17

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

ZenMonkey said:
Calleja said:
the whole "number nine...number nine...number nine..." thing is not only catchy as fuck, but
...has been played out for years now.
Not in Mexico! :heythere:


#18

Calleja

Calleja

"played out"? How so?


#19

Dieb

Dieb

Oh please, it's not that hard to listen to. It's only 8 min long, I could listen to basically anything for that long. And it's actually kind of interesting, in a "Goddamn Lennon was fucking wasted/half crazy when he made this".

Not that it's a song by any reasonable definition of what a "song" is. But people here are acting like it's someone scratching their fingernails across a chaulkboard for an hour.


#20





Calleja said:
"played out"? How so?
Everyone goes "number nine...number nine" every time the word "nine" is mentioned. It's like Monty Python references at this point, no longer "Ha ha! Funny! I get it!" but "yeah ha ha African or European swallow, get some new material already."


#21



Twitch

I listen to this every time I go to get the mail.


#22

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

ZenMonkey said:
Calleja said:
"played out"? How so?
Everyone goes "number nine...number nine" every time the word "nine" is mentioned. It's like Monty Python references at this point, no longer "Ha ha! Funny! I get it!" but "yeah ha ha African or European swallow, get some new material already."
Monty Python references are ALWAYS funny! :humph:


#23

Cat

Cat

It's better than hearing yoko sing.


#24

Calleja

Calleja

ZenMonkey said:
Calleja said:
"played out"? How so?
Everyone goes "number nine...number nine" every time the word "nine" is mentioned. It's like Monty Python references at this point, no longer "Ha ha! Funny! I get it!" but "yeah ha ha African or European swallow, get some new material already."
Huh... I've never heard it in any TV show or movie or the such, which is where I would pick up on played out things over there.

It's obviously not played out here since we say "nueve" instead of "nine" :p


#25





Makes sense that it would be a cultural/linguistic thing. :uhhuh:


#26



TDK1987

I liked the Simpsons parody of it better... probably more entertaining to listen to that over and over too


#27



YAOMTC

Just listened to it... with headphones.

I now expect to hear sounds moving from ear to ear.


#28

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

ZenMonkey said:
Calleja said:
"played out"? How so?
Everyone goes "number nine...number nine" every time the word "nine" is mentioned.
Sure, if you're an old person. :tongue:


#29

Calleja

Calleja

I've never heard the Revolution 9 reference in any movie or TV show or book I've read, that I recall.... mentions of it being weird as fuck, sure, but people going "number nine...number nine..." not really.


#30



Skinny Santa

I read somewhere once that John would often have TV's and Radios playing simultaneously while he read and used that to find ideas for song. Interpreting it as how John's mind works when hes creating has always made it interesting for me to listen too. Its not a song but I like it anyways.

Take this brother may it serve you well.


#31



TDK1987

Calleja said:
I've never heard the Revolution 9 reference in any movie or TV show or book I've read, that I recall.... mentions of it being weird as smurf, sure, but people going \"number nine...number nine...\" not really.
http://www.umnet.com/free-Ringtone/36451-The_Simpsons___Yoko_Ono_Number_8


#32



TwoBit

That track's not so hard to sit through at all. Hell, I've heard Two Lone Swordsmen songs that were more painful on the ears.


#33



Joe Johnson

I guess I never thought of it as a "song" so much as a sound experiment.
I'm fine with that. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it, but I'm good with musicians pushing some boundaries (and, remember when this came out - it was before everyone and his brother could make music on their computer for free).


#34

Calleja

Calleja

I'm fine with experimenting, and I'm the last person you have to convince The Beatles pushed boundaries..... but why did he have to put it right smack in the middle of an otherwise quite enjoyable album, is my question.

I mean... it's the foocking White Album... and not even *I* can listen to it from beginning to end cause there's an 8 minute pause of random noise, which is not what I wanna hear when I'm driving or whatever, y'know.

It's the longest track in the entire Beatles discography, too.


#35



Joe Johnson

I see your point. I suppose they were catering to the drug crowd back then.

The White Album is probably my favorite album by them. It's an experimental album, but not in the "in your face" way that Sgt Peppers was. More of a group of songs that were all fairly different from each other, with different styles and different levels of fidelity/production value.


#36



JCM

Calleja said:
REVOLUTION 9 IS NOT A SONG!!

Seriously. It's a track in the White Album, fine, just because it has a starting point somewhere, runs, and ends. But IT'S NOT A SONG!

It's.. the recorded epitome of John's Yokofication, is what I'd call it.

I mean, seriously, I dare you to listen through all 8 minutes of this:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1swOYEZBim0:bcj6lo6z][/youtube:bcj6lo6z]
But if we consider some paint splatter and fesces to be a painting or work of art,by the same logic we could consider Lennon´s drunken recordings as a song. :twisted:


#37

Fun Size

Fun Size

I listen to a fair set of avant-garde music, and figure it couldn't be that bad.

It was.


#38

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Calleja said:
I'm fine with experimenting, and I'm the last person you have to convince The Beatles pushed boundaries..... but why did he have to put it right smack in the middle of an otherwise quite enjoyable album, is my question.
because he's an asshole

-- Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:27 am --

Joe Johnson said:
More of a group of songs that were all fairly different from each other, with different styles and different levels of fidelity/production value.
Right. Because they were all working independently and noticed they happened to have enough tracks to fill a two record album.


#39

Calleja

Calleja

Allen said:
Right. Because they were all working independently and noticed they happened to have enough tracks to fill a two record album.

That's not entirely right..... Ringo never did anything on his own :p


#40

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Calleja said:
Allen said:
Right. Because they were all working independently and noticed they happened to have enough tracks to fill a two record album.

That's not entirely right..... Ringo never did anything on his own :p
first beatle to be a voice on the simpsons. that counts for something musical...right? right?
:waah:


#41

Calleja

Calleja

Go play with octopuses


#42

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Calleja said:
Go play with octopuses
...ok



#43

Calleja

Calleja

that's not their garden under the sea!!


#44

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

i am playing with octopi the only way i know how


#45

Calleja

Calleja

octopuses, the plural is OCTOPUSES

seriously, it's not a Latin word.


#46

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

There are three forms of the plural of octopus; namely, octopuses, octopi, and octopodes.
if you're so attached to them, maybe you should have fun with them the only way i know how


#47

Calleja

Calleja

Your sources are fail

The common misconception is that "octopi" is the plural of "octopus", because of the mistaken assumption that the "us" ending means it derived from Latin, whereas "octopus" is actually derived from Greek.

Strictly speaking, the plural is actually "octopodes", however this is rarely used nowadays. Today, "octopuses" is more commonly accepted as a plural.


#48

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

well, then i no longer have any attachment to this world. somebody does english better than i do.

well, i'm going to go kill myself. see you later.


#49

Calleja

Calleja

Make it a painful death, you got beat by someone whose native language isn't even English.


#50

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

"Octopi shall not occupy the ice"
:moon: :moon: :moon:


#51





Never was a big fan of the Beatles. I thought their stuff was either too "popcorn" or too "fucking weird". This song is in the "fucking weird" category.


#52

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Calleja said:
Make it a painful death, you got beat by someone whose native language isn't even English.
oh, i know. pluralization is serious business.


#53



Twitch

Octopi might not be traditional but all three are accepted in about any setting.


#54

Calleja

Calleja

Edrondol said:
Never was a big fan of the Beatles. I thought their stuff was either too "popcorn" or too "fucking weird". This song is in the "fucking weird" category.
Hmm.. I think I can find for you a song that's neither.

How about two...first, a nice, beautiful reminiscing:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ5N4-X_HWU:6rpr4feg][/youtube:6rpr4feg]

AND, I noticed you liked Green Day on your Last.fm, so maybe you'll like this:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsVlmp8eQ7s:6rpr4feg][/youtube:6rpr4feg]


How about it? I think I have enough Beatles minutia in my head that I should be able to find a song ANYONE would like, given enough parameters of the subject's tastes.


#55

General Fuzzy McBitty

General Fuzzy McBitty

We went over the White Album in one of my poetry classes and discussed it as a work of postmodern parody.


#56

Calleja

Calleja

Rocky Raccoon is certainly a parody.


#57

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

The Beatles are just a parody of The Monkees anyway.


#58





I like "In My Life". There are a few that I like but not enough to call myself a proper fan.


#59

Calleja

Calleja

In My Life... aight, so you're of the more ballady persuasion?

Fair enough, I can dig something else up for you. Lessee...

Oooh, this one's great, but it grows more and more on you:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrM8EL04ETI:34u1okvh][/youtube:34u1okvh]

This is also a great example of not being "popcorn" NOR "fucking weird".


#60

Bubble181

Bubble181

I don't have any trouble listening to Revolution 9...if anything, it helps soothe the mind because it guides two different mindsets at the same time, so you can actually listen to it on two levels with two mindtracks at the same time. It's sort of trippy, but, eh. Better than my experiments with two different cds with one plugged in each ear. *shrug*


#61

Calleja

Calleja

....you're one weird dude, Bubs.


#62

Bubble181

Bubble181

Sorry :-P

That said, backwards, it does sound more melodious.


#63

Calleja

Calleja

They really didn't intend for it to be heard backwards, though, that was an idea of the nutters... both the Manson nutters and the Paul is Dead nutters. When the Beatles added backwards stuff, it was cause they liked how it sounded backwards, not so you would LISTEN backwards

An example is the song I linked a few posts back, I'm Only Sleeping, that includes some backwards guitar chords.


#64

Bubble181

Bubble181

Obviously :-P


#65

General Fuzzy McBitty

General Fuzzy McBitty

Calleja said:
Rocky Raccoon is certainly a parody.
As is "Back in the USSR" ... we had the most fun, though, with "Glass Onion" and its self referencing, its lying, and the idea that once you've peeled all the layers away nothing is really there.


#66

Calleja

Calleja

hahahaha, yeah, Glass Onion was another I Am The Walrus... John just having fun in confusing the fuck out of people who looked for messages in all their songs.


#67





Actually my favorite Beatles' tune is "When I'm 64".


#68

Calleja

Calleja

.... are you setting yourself up for an old joke or being honest there, Turbo?


#69





Honest. I love that song. It's so lighthearted in beat & tune but the subject matter is serious.


#70

Calleja

Calleja

you like lighthearted in beat & tune but not so in lyrics, huh?

Well, then, meet:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF5apksk_ps:3o9yycsc][/youtube:3o9yycsc]


#71





Not a fan.


#72

Calleja

Calleja

DAMMIT!

Alright... When I'm Sixty-Four and In My Life.

I can work with this. Lessee...

ooh, I know, one of my all time favorites:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k83H2fRc02I:2gi34l61][/youtube:2gi34l61]


#73

General Fuzzy McBitty

General Fuzzy McBitty

Edrondol said:
Honest. I love that song. It's so lighthearted in beat & tune but the subject matter is serious.
I enjoy it for the irony that the answer to the question for Paul was, "No, she won't."


#74

Calleja

Calleja

How is that the answer? The man is over 64 now and I would sure as hell send him Valentines.

(if you're saying it's "no she won't" cause Linda died or something... it was one of the first songs Paul wrote, when he was like 16 or something. No Linda yet.)


#75





Fernando, I love ya man. But I'm not going to be a Beatles fan. And that's something you're going to have to learn to live with.


#76

Calleja

Calleja

I'm not trying to make you a Beatles fan, dude, I'm just trying to introduce you to songs that aren't either "popcorn" or "fucking weird", just, y'know... cause if anyone can, it's me!

I'm well aware that your musical tastes are beyond saving, Fall-Out Boy man :D


#77



Skinny Santa

Calleja said:
How is that the answer? The man is over 64 now and I would sure as * send him Valentines.

(if you're saying it's "no she won't" cause Linda died or something... it was one of the first songs Paul wrote, when he was like 16 or something. No Linda yet.)
Do you crazy Mexicans not get news? Heather Mills divorced him right before his 64th birthday and the world had an ironygasm.


#78

Calleja

Calleja

the song says "many years from now" not "in a few months" :angry:


#79





Calleja said:
the song says "many years from now" not "in a few months" :angry:
How does that make what Skinny Santa said not true?


#80

Calleja

Calleja

That it's not ironic cause the song is a young guy thinking about being old, not about an old guy thinking about being slightly older.


#81

General Fuzzy McBitty

General Fuzzy McBitty

Calleja said:
How is that the answer? The man is over 64 now and I would sure as hell send him Valentines.

(if you're saying it's "no she won't" cause Linda died or something... it was one of the first songs Paul wrote, when he was like 16 or something. No Linda yet.)
No, I'm referring to the fact that he was born on June of '42, and he separated from his wife in may of '06... right before his 64th birthday.

I don't care if you don't think it's right... I still find it delicious.


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