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Not all 14 year old girls on the internet are FBI agents...

Nov 13, 2009#1

@Li3n

... some are YOUR WIFE!

Wife posed as girl in online trap

A suspicious wife posed as a teenager online to catch her husband propositioning girls in a chatroom, Cardiff Crown Court has heard.
Cheryl Roberts, 61, pretended to be a 14-year-old girl and was asked by David Roberts, 68, to meet for sex.
Roberts admitted engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child and making and possessing illegal images.
He was given a three-year community order and banned from having access in person or online to under 18s.
The couple have now split up and are getting divorced.

Different computer
The court heard that mother-of-two Mrs Roberts became suspicious about the amount of time her husband was spending in his study and of a message which popped up on their computer while he was out.
While Roberts was chatting online in his study, Mrs Roberts used a different computer in the living room at their home in Pantygog, Bridgend, and pretended to be a schoolgirl.

Roberts propositioned the "girl", unaware he was chatting to his wife, the court was told.
Prosecutor Martyn Kelly told the court that Roberts, a former pub landlord who used the nickname 'Corky' online, also used a webcam to film himself carrying out acts of indecency - which his wife could see on her PC just yards away.

Illegal images
Mrs Roberts was so shocked by the behaviour of her husband of almost 20 years she brought in police, who seized his computer and found dozens of illegal child porn images.
Roberts believed he had been caught through downloading the images and did not know until weeks later that it was his wife who had called the police.
The court heard that, when interviewed, Roberts denied having sex with any schoolgirls but admitted he was "prepared to do so".
Byron Broadstock, defending, said: "He's brought shame on himself and his family."
Psychiatrists' reports said Roberts might have a brain disorder which causes him to be an exhibitionist.
Mr Broadstock said Roberts had been going through a dark patch at the time, was anxious to know why he had behaved in that way and would welcome treatment.
Claude Knights, director of children's charity Kidscape, said: "The offences that he has committed are very serious indeed and his wife must be commended for the active part that she played in bringing him to justice."

Nov 13, 2009#2

Shegokigo

Oh nice.

Nov 13, 2009#3

Denbrought

"engaging in sexual activities in the presence of a child"

Wait what

Nov 13, 2009#4

IronBrig4

He was performing acts of indecency upon himself, while filming himself via webcam... while his wife was in the same room.

Nov 13, 2009#5

Chazwozel

"but honey, she was really mature for her age!"

Nov 13, 2009#6

Hylian

That is just messed up

At least the guy got busted for it.

Nov 13, 2009#7

Dave

Chazwozel said:
"but honey, she was really mature for her age!"

Plus she was from an abusive relationship so I saved her life!

Nov 13, 2009#8

chakz

That is 13 different kinds of creepy and 12 different kinds of wrong.

I really hope there was something wrong with the guy. I wonder how how long his wife waited to call the police?

Nov 13, 2009#9

Shegokigo

chakz said:
I really hope there was something wrong with the guy. I wonder how how long his wife waited to call the police?

I'm guessing after he finished, rolled over and fell asleep?

Nov 13, 2009#10

Adammon

Dave;298460][quote=Chazwozel said:
"but honey, she was really mature for her age!"

Plus she was from an abusive relationship so I saved her life![/QUOTE]

Nov 13, 2009#11

Shegokigo

Adammon: You're doing it wrong.

Nov 13, 2009#12

@Li3n

chakz said:
I really hope there was something wrong with the guy.

Why, for the majority of human history 14 was marrying age...

Nov 13, 2009#13

Iaculus

Well, now we know where Icarus got to...

Nov 13, 2009#14

Cajungal

Auuugh, gross! I'm tired of hearing news about pedophiles! :mad:

Hats off to the wife.

Nov 13, 2009#15

Tinwhistler

(mods take note, SMBC encourages this kind of hotlinking.)

Nov 13, 2009#16

Iaculus

I really shouldn't find that comic so oddly sweet every time I see it, should I?

Nov 13, 2009#17

@Li3n

Cajungal said:
Auuugh, gross! I'm tired of hearing news about pedophiles!

Hats off to the wife.

And i'm tired of people using that word wrong... 14 year old are not prepubescent... in some countries it's even legal age (2 of our neighbours have it at that, and we have it at 15).

Nov 13, 2009#18

SeraRelm

IronBrig4 said:
He was performing acts of indecency upon himself, while filming himself via webcam... while his wife was in the same room.

He was in the study, she was in the living room.

I'm glad she didn't do something crazy in response. She handled the situation exceedingly well, it seems.

What was that, Ic@Lius? I couldn't hear you over the sicko/creepy.

Nov 13, 2009#19

Cajungal

@Li3n;298778][quote=Cajungal said:
Auuugh, gross! I'm tired of hearing news about pedophiles!

Hats off to the wife.

And i'm tired of people using that word wrong... 14 year old are not prepubescent... in some countries it's even legal age (2 of our neighbours have it at that, and we have it at 15).[/QUOTE]

I-am-tired-of-hearing-about-these-sick-people.

...and pedophiles.

Nov 13, 2009#20

@Li3n

Cajungal said:
I-am-tired-of-hearing-about-these-sick-people.

...and pedophiles.

There we go...

What was that, Ic@Lius? I couldn't hear you over the sicko/creepy.

Yes, it's not like being attracted to a female that already has all sexual characteristics and can bare children is totally unnatural...

Nov 13, 2009#21

Cajungal

So what's the proper term if that is wrong?

Nov 13, 2009#22

Twitch

Oh yeah, they're just prime for marrying.

*

*- Taken from some churches Eighth grade graduates page.

Nov 13, 2009#23

Iaculus

Cajungal said:
So what's the proper term if that is wrong?

Ephebophile.

Nov 13, 2009#24

Chippy

@Li3n;298795][quote=Cajungal said:
I-am-tired-of-hearing-about-these-sick-people.

...and pedophiles.

There we go...

What was that, Ic@Lius? I couldn't hear you over the sicko/creepy.

Yes, it's not like being attracted to a female that already has all sexual characteristics and can bare children is totally unnatural...[/QUOTE]

Here we go again!

Nov 13, 2009#25

Troll

@Li3n said:
What was that, Ic@Lius? I couldn't hear you over the sicko/creepy.

Click to expand...

Yes, it's not like being attracted to a female that already has all sexual characteristics and can bare children is totally unnatural...

You're... you're not defending statutory rapists, are you?

Nov 13, 2009#26

Tinwhistler

@Li3n said:
sexual characteristics and can bare children is totally unnatural...

Yep, them junior high kids..so hot.

:puke:

Whoops..twitch beat me to the punch.

Nov 13, 2009#27

Shegokigo

*wonders how long @lien is going to string everyone along*

op2:

Nov 13, 2009#28

Adammon

Nov 13, 2009#29

Gurpel

yeah i wrote about a paragraph concerning "yeah, well for most of human history we also burned witches and thought that the sun revolved around the earth" but then it became relatively obvious i was being trolled.

Nov 13, 2009#30

Cajungal

Iaculus;298823][quote=Cajungal said:
So what's the proper term if that is wrong?

Ephebophile.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I knew it had been mentioned in here somewhere before. I think it was you last time, too.

Nov 13, 2009#31

Iaculus

Cajungal;298866][quote=Iaculus;298823][quote=Cajungal said:
So what's the proper term if that is wrong?

Ephebophile.[/quote]

Thank you. I knew it had been mentioned in here somewhere before. I think it was you last time, too.[/QUOTE]

Technically, there's also hebephilia for the midpoint between the two, but that's very specific indeed.

Hey, I did A-level psychology. These things pop up.

Nov 13, 2009#32

@Li3n

A Troll;298838][quote=@Li3n said:
What was that, Ic@Lius? I couldn't hear you over the sicko/creepy.

Click to expand...

Yes, it's not like being attracted to a female that already has all sexual characteristics and can bare children is totally unnatural...

You're... you're not defending statutory rapists, are you?[/QUOTE]

Like i said, plenty of places where 14 is age of consent (both neighbouring countries are in the EU)...

But mostly i found it ridiculous how everybody finds it so abhorring that someone would find a 14 year old attractive... biologically that's normal (unlike paedophilia, and ephebophilia refers to preference, not just regular sexual attraction).

Of course there are plenty of other good reasons why one shouldn't have sex with persons that young...

*wonders how long @lien is going to string everyone along*

Technically i'm not actually trolling... that's just a nice side effect...

Nov 13, 2009#33

Qonas

Confirmed: Lein = Icarus

Nov 13, 2009#34

@Li3n

Well somebody had to fill that void...

Nov 13, 2009#35

Adammon

@Li3n said:
Well somebody had to fill that void...

Unless she's under 14, then it's life in prison!

Nov 13, 2009#36

chakz

@Li3n;298708][quote=chakz said:
I really hope there was something wrong with the guy.

Why, for the majority of human history 14 was marrying age...[/QUOTE]

If it were 500 years ago and a 68 year old dude wanted to have sex with a 14 year old behind the back of his wife of 20 years I'd still say that there is something wrong with him. Especially if he was performing "indecent acts" in front of children.

Nov 14, 2009#37

@Li3n

Adammon;298920][quote=@Li3n said:
Well somebody had to fill that void...

Unless she's under 14, then it's life in prison![/QUOTE]

Under 15 here, and only 3-10 years actually... but those are probably years you're getting butt raped, knowing our prisons.

chakz;298945][quote=@Li3n;298708][quote=chakz said:
I really hope there was something wrong with the guy.

Why, for the majority of human history 14 was marrying age...[/quote]

If it were 500 years ago and a 68 year old dude wanted to have sex with a 14 year old behind the back of his wife of 20 years I'd still say that there is something wrong with him. Especially if he was performing "indecent acts" in front of children.[/QUOTE]

In a moral sense, sure... (but how is indecent acts aka masturbating on web-camera worse then sex, both are with the same imaginary 14 year old) and it's very likely he has some psychological issues...

But a 14 year old being sexually attractive is not really some sort of deviation from a biological standpoint (but of course having an obsession with them is, so i'm not actually debating against this particular case, just the idea that a 14 year old is not sexually attractive to a normal person, separate from whether or not acting on that attraction is right).

Nov 14, 2009#38

Null

Anyone who's over 16 and finds 14 year olds sexually attractive is creepy. I'm sorry, but they just are. I don't care when people used to get married, I don't care what supposed biological imperative is involved. The fact is that is societally, they're children. These are at best Freshmen in high school. These are not mature people able to make their own decisions.

Nov 14, 2009#39

Shegokigo

I'm actually going to make mention that there are QUITE a few underage girls in my area, and the area I grew up in, that you would NOT be able to tell apart from 18yr olds. Physically anyway.

Nov 14, 2009#40

Null

Shegokigo said:
I'm actually going to make mention that there are QUITE a few underage girls in my area, and the area I grew up in, that you would NOT be able to tell apart from 18yr olds. Physically anyway.

Being unable to tell apart is different from finding attractive, and the implication was that finding them attractive because of their youth was the creepy part. I admit, I was unclear.

Nov 14, 2009#41

@Li3n

Lying Bastard said:
The fact is that is societally, they're children.

Precisely... though what you wrote next makes me think you also meant mentally.

These are not mature people able to make their own decisions.

I agree, even if at 14 i would have totally jumped the bones of half my female teachers (who where hardly very attractive). But that has nothing to do with sexual attraction (unless there's some sort of fetish for mature minds i've never heard of).

biological imperative

Just to make sure, i never said that it was any kind of imperative, there's nothing driving someone to have sex with 14-16 year old any more then to do it with someone older...

---------- Post added at 05:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:36 PM ----------

Being unable to tell apart is different from finding attractive, and the implication was that finding them attractive because of their youth was the creepy part. I admit, I was unclear.

Oh, that is different... even if ephebophilia isn't considered a mental illness, there indeed is something creepy about having a fixation like that...

Nov 15, 2009#42

Qonas

Here comes Lein, defender of underage relationships everywhere!

Nov 15, 2009#43

Cuyval Dar

So [STRIKE]glad[/STRIKE] sad to see that Pedobear Polanski image is being put to good use.

Nov 16, 2009#44

North_Ranger

I often wondered what possible use could military service be once I'm back in the civvies.

This thread makes me wonder no more.

Firing position...

Aim...

Safety off...

Nov 16, 2009#45

@Li3n

Qonas said:
Here comes Lein, defender of underage relationships everywhere!

What can i say, high-school has left me with a very cynical view of kids that age... (first week - who already went to hookers discussion, some of which where actually believable)

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