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Old School!

#1

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Yesterday, I picked up a PC gamepad. I've been thinking about buying one for awhile, as I own the Grand Theft Auto games on Steam and find a keyboard not comfortable enough. Plus, I thought it might be fun to play old NES and SNES games with a controller for the first time in at least a decade.

And man, it's like coming home to an old friend. It just feels so much more comfortable to play Super Mario World or Mega Man using a gamepad rather than a keyboard. That said, I am incredibly out of practice. I used to clear threw the first level (sometimes even the first world) of Super Mario World without dying once. First level? Killed within ten seconds.

But yeah, I can't wait to try this out on San Andreas or maybe even other Steam games like Trine or Super Meat Boy.


#2

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

You should use your pad to play the Cadillacs and Dinosaurs


#3

Jay

Jay

contra game play.jpg


#4

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy



#5

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I bought one of these bad boys a few months ago: Amazon product

I love it, so awesome to play the old SNES titles with it. I use a 360 USB controller for PS1 and current gen titles, though.


#6

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Holy frig, were these old games always this hard? I just tried making my way through Elec Man's stage in Mega Man 1 and died several times. Never even reached him. Then just tried playing Contra 3 and got my ass kicked.

Either I've gotten old or those older games really were a lot harder. Holy crap.


#7

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Nope, they're just hard. I still think the first Mega Man is the hardest of the NES series.


#8

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I found the old NES Mega Man games to be pretty punishing, yeah. Contra has been hard since 1, sort of a staple of the series.

If you want ball-busting, though, might I suggest Marble Madness or Cobra Triangle.


#9

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Before playing old NES games = Rose Colored Glasses of Nostalgia
After playing old NES games = Broken Glasses and a need for a drink


#10

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

/reads title, ignores thread

WE'RE GOING STREAKING THROUGH THE QUAD!!!!!!


#11

Bowielee

Bowielee

Funny, I just booted up the sega genesis collection on steam before work tonight. I played for 10 minutes and I was like "How the HELL did I ever beat these games???"


#12

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Man I still don't know how I managed to beat any of the Sonic games without jogging briskly through them. Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles are merciless.


#13

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

How did you beat them? You played them 4-5hrs a day, every day, for months on end because you didn't have that many other games to play. You learned the routes, the spawn points the muscle reflex on when to jump/duck/run etc.

It's not that you're less skilled now, it's that you're less of a Chinese Gold Farmer pressing the same buttons at the same time in the same sequence day in and day out.


#14

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

people who 1cc old beat 'em ups and shmups blow my mind


#15

Jay

Jay

Older games are harder.

And better.


#16

Gryfter

Gryfter

Jay said:
Older games are harder.

And better.
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tru dat


#17

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

So I'm nearly done playing through Actraiser. Every time I revisit it, I'm reminded how awesome the game is. It would very likely be in my top ten favourite games of all time.


#18

Bowielee

Bowielee

I loved the hell out of Actraiser. I didn't much care for the second one, though.


#19

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I think I played a little bit of it back in the day. It had none of the sim elements to it, right? That's why I wasn't fond of it, myself.


#20

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Such a shame they took out the awesome Sim City style of the first game from the second one.


#21

Bowielee

Bowielee

Really, it was what made it better than the other games of its type. I didn't understand why they removed the one unique element.


#22

Frank

Frank

The whole Quintet Quintology of SNES action/adventure games are rad.

Actraiser, Soul Blazer, Legend of Gaia, Terranigma and Actraiser 2.


#23

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Frank said:
The whole Quintet Quintology of SNES action/adventure games are rad.

Actraiser, Soul Blazer, Legend of Gaia, Terranigma and Actraiser 2.
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Loved Actraiser 1&2 as well as Soul Blazer but I just could not get into LoG or Terra. Dunno what it was.


#24

Frank

Frank

I loved the shit out of Legend of Gaia, it was the first one I had played actually. My mom just surprised me with it one day. I hadn't asked her for it or anything, she had just asked the guy at the store what a good game was for a kid with my taste. It actually motivated me to learn about places like Angkor Wat.


#25

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Fyi it's "Illusion of Gaia" ;)


#26

Frank

Frank

Oh yeah, I've got Legend of Legaia in my head. That game sucks. Illusion was fantastic though and I stick by it.


#27

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Terranigma started out really slow but eventually gets amazing. The ending was pretty solid. IoG is also a lot of fun, though again it starts really slow.

Personally I replay Lufia 2 and Earthbound pretty much every year. I mean, if nothing else, this boss music, man:


This is the ringtone when work calls, haha:


#28

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Also, I should point out the end of Lufia 2 made me cry like a bitch. I am man enough to admit this.


#29

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Old School RPGs are a different beast. They're hard but in the good way. Mostly.... the xp/gold grinds aren't exactly fun but still love it. The only problem is alot of the great Old School RPGs have portable remakes that are very very good. So it's not really worth going back and playing the original NES/SNES/Genesis versions.


#30

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

I like Legend of Legaia... :(


#31

Necronic

Necronic

If you want an old RPG that is still awesome to this day play Secret of Mana. This isn't just because you get to fly the dragon from Neverending Story. But...that's part of it.

As for a hard game: Find yourself a copy of D-Force. Then play until you want to kill yourself.


#32

Bowielee

Bowielee

There are still a lot of the older RPGS that still stand up. Chrono Trigger, any of the super nintendo FF games, the Lunar games, the Dragon Quest series. I think with the advent of the Bethesda line of games, we're probably not going to see much going back to the old fashioned turn based RPGs. Which some people think is great, but for some it sucks. I really view that period as the golden age for turn based RPGs. Most of the stuff after that kind of pales in comparison.


#33

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Necronic said:
If you want an old RPG that is still awesome to this day play Secret of Mana. This isn't just because you get to fly the dragon from Neverending Story. But...that's part of it.

As for a hard game: Find yourself a copy of D-Force. Then play until you want to kill yourself.
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I used to think Secret of Mana was amazing. Now I think it's just okay because I played Seiken Densetsu 3, which is in the same line of games and is much, much better. if you're playing ROMs there's an English version available and it's worth all the time you can invest into it. 6 characters, choose 3 for your party, two unique end bosses and different final dungeons based on your main character choice. Also, each character class changes twice, with a total of 6 classes per character.


#34



Soliloquy

True story: My friend found an snes copy of Chrono Trigger for $2.00 at a swap meet a few years ago, and got it for me for my birthday. Best Friend Ever.


#35

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Bowielee said:
any of the super nintendo FF games.
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Even Mystic Quest?


#36

fade

fade

Yeah. Early college me: Actraiser was awesome! Sweet, Actraiser 2!
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What the hell is this crap?


#37

Jay

Jay

CynicismKills said:
Terranigma started out really slow but eventually gets amazing. The ending was pretty solid. IoG is also a lot of fun, though again it starts really slow.

Personally I replay Lufia 2 and Earthbound pretty much every year. I mean, if nothing else, this boss music, man:


This is the ringtone when work calls, haha:
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FUCKING THIS

BOTH OF THEM


#38

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

ThatNickGuy said:
Even Mystic Quest?
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The funniest things about FFMQ is in Japan it's called Final Fantasy USA, because for some reason around the time this and FFIV were released Japan was convinced the US RPG enthusiasts couldn't handle the difficulty of normal games (and Square wanted to push the JRPG into mainstream US gaming with something "entry level"). It was actually released in the US prior to Japan. IV was simplified a little as well as some censorship, too. In the end the game flopped, as FFVII was the one to really draw JRPG's into the US mainstream and those who wanted something great after VI were left with only MQ to tide them over until FFVI.

All that said, I don't hate FFMQ. It's easy (you can oneshot the last boss with a Cure spell) and the story's pretty thin, but it's still not as boring as FFXIII.


#39

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Oh, I'll agree that it's not a bad game by any means. I rented and played it back in the day and enjoyed it. But it certainly isn't even remotely in the same league as IV or VI.


#40

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

CynicismKills said:
I used to think Secret of Mana was amazing. Now I think it's just okay because I played Seiken Densetsu 3, which is in the same line of games and is much, much better. if you're playing ROMs there's an English version available and it's worth all the time you can invest into it. 6 characters, choose 3 for your party, two unique end bosses and different final dungeons based on your main character choice. Also, each character class changes twice, with a total of 6 classes per character.
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Well, this game is amazing.


#41

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

If you want a great SNES JRPG experience, seriously check out Seiken Densetsu 3. It's worth it. That, Earthbound and Lufia 2 are easily my top 3 SNES JRPG's, even beating out FFIV which basically hooked me on them in the first place.


#42

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Got to disagree on FFIV being that low, it's easily superior if but barely.


#43

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Story-wise IV wins out by a mile against SD3, and really those 3 are just my personal top, if given the chance there's no reason not to play all of them, IV and VI. I preferred Earthbound's story over any of them, though, managing to bring what would have been your typical good v evil story with a truly unique twist and setting for the RPG's of the time (and even now, for the most part).


#44

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

SNES wasn't my old school, my old school was the Play-station and N64. Anyone here play Tomba? Game is haaaaaaaaaaaaaard.

Also there was this one SNES game made by Squaresoft, it was an RPG like Final Fantasy. Fire...something. It had people who could turn into birds and what-not. Ring any bells anybody?


#45

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I keep waiting and waiting for PSN to release Tomba. *fingers crossed* I played a demo for it back in the day but never got the full game.

And could it be Fire Emblem? I don't know what it could be.


#46

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

ThatNickGuy said:
I keep waiting and waiting for PSN to release Tomba. *fingers crossed* I played a demo for it back in the day but never got the full game.

And could it be Fire Emblem? I don't know what it could be.
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No not Fire Emblem, this was a more traditional RPG, Fire Emblem was more strategy based. And on Tomba, I was lucky to find the ORIGINAL version. Cost me sixty buck though but damn was it worth it.


#47

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Breath of Fire. I love BoF1 and 2, 3 I didn't get to play much of and haven't touched anything past that. The SNES entries are solid, though.


#48

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

CynicismKills said:
Breath of Fire.
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BREATH OF FIRE! Thank you! I was playing that at my bros place and while it's a traditional RPG it still had an interesting story definitely worth playing. Last time I played it I beat the second boss...and then my stupid brother kicked the cartridge deleting my data. Oh cartridges, why must you taunt me?


#49

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Also the transformation you're thinking of is Nina, the winged girl who can turn into a bird for map travel. Ryu changed into dragons and Gobi could become a giant fish for water travel. Karn could merge characters to make one new powerful one, something that was carried over into BoF2 but made a bit more involved.

Interesting note, only BoF1 was Square, the rest of the series was created by Capcom. However, the character designs of BoF1 were done by Keiji Inafune, the creator of Mega Man.


#50

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

CynicismKills said:
Also the transformation you're thinking of is Nina, the winged girl who can turn into a bird for map travel. Ryu changed into dragons and Gobi could become a giant fish for water travel. Karn could merge characters to make one new powerful one, something that was carried over into BoF2 but made a bit more involved.

Interesting note, only BoF1 was Square, the rest of the series was created by Capcom. However, the character designs of BoF1 were done by Keiji Inafune, the creator of Mega Man.
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Interesting! One thing I thought was hilarious was how Nina was being accompanied by unamed guards. I was like "Uhp, playable characters that don't have names. Yeah, they're gonna die."


#51



Soliloquy

Yoshimickster said:
No not Fire Emblem, this was a more traditional RPG, Fire Emblem was more strategy based. And on Tomba, I was lucky to find the ORIGINAL version. Cost me sixty buck though but damn was it worth it.
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Oh wow, Tomba! I only got to rent it when it came out, but I had WAY too much fun with that game. Never did get to finish it :(. Though by the time I had to return it, I forgot what it was Tomba was looking for to begin with.


#52

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Soliloquy said:
Oh wow, Tomba! I only got to rent it when it came out, but I had WAY too much fun with that game. Never did get to finish it :(. Though by the time I had to return it, I forgot what it was Tomba was looking for to begin with.
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His Grand-father's watch. Game is hard, I still haven't beat it!


#53

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Ah yes, how could I forget my first Furry Fantasy Girl?
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#54

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Broken pic is broken.

You know what's the first thing I'm getting once I get a top loader? Super Game boy, then I'll FINALLY be able to play Super Mario Land all the way through. I swear, every pair of double a batteries I have goes out too early.


#55

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Ah yes, delicious Katt. Not to mention she was a powerhouse hitter, too. Only one who kept up with the Hero's damage in my BoF2 playthroughs.


#56

Jay

Jay

Shegokigo said:
Ah yes, how could I forget my first Furry Fantasy Girl?
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#57

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

...I'm sorry what?

Anyone ever play the Jersey Devil for the Playstation? Man that game was balls hard.


#58

Jay

Jay

Not as hard as that awesome PS1 game where you were a ninja/samurai and basically it was game over from 1 hit. Many character types... Bushido Blade?


#59

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Jay said:
Not as hard as that awesome PS1 game where you were a ninja/samurai and basically it was game over from 1 hit. Many character types... Bushido Blade?
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Yeah Bushido Blade, just looked it up. I get waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too frustrated at fighting games. Speaking of fighting games, what do I have to do to get the special endings in Street Fighter 2?


#60

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

get a bunch of perfects


#61

fade

fade

Bushido Blade was a neat concept. They were trying to make a realistic fighting game where you could die with a well-placed hit, and you carried damage from battle to battle. Unfortunately "realistic" isn't the same as "fun to play".


#62

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Allen who is Quiet said:
get a bunch of perfects
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Thank you! All this time I thought it was the right difficulty level.


#63

Bowielee

Bowielee

I actually liked that aspect of Bushido Blade. But yes, generally realistic doesn't always equate to fun.


#64

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Bowielee said:
I actually liked that aspect of Bushido Blade. But yes, generally realistic doesn't always equate to fun.
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It's the same way with that game based on Deadliest warrior. The Spartan's spear was basically an instant kill move.


#65

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

You want a tough ps1 game, play Brave Fencer Musashi. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


#66

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

CynicismKills said:
You want a tough ps1 game, play Brave Fencer Musashi. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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THERE'S A GAME BASED ON MUSASHI! Question, is there a level wear you kill a guy with an oar?


#67

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Possibly, it's a platformer/RPG, you get new items and level and such. Here's sort of an overview of the gameplay:



#68

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Loved Bushido Blade. Playing against my brother in long epic duels where we'd run through snow fallen bamboo forests, watching the trees slide and fall as we cut our way through them. We both got so good at the game that to land a single hit took 10-15 minutes at a time and a kill could sometimes take longer.

One of my favorite moments was fightin on the slope with the huge stairs and him having taken out one of my arms. My good arm held my sword and my other arm hung worthlessly to my side as I deftly continued dodging him till we made it to the near bottom of the stairs. Having the "high ground" he should have been able to finish me off (lolLucaslol) and he thought he'd take a running jump over me and kill me with a backstab. I lept to meet his jump before he realized it and my one good arm swept my sword across his neck. He crumpled to the floor and slid down the final few stairs as I stood triumphant.

Beautifully epic.


#69

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

CynicismKills said:
Possibly, it's a platformer/RPG, you get new items and level and such. Here's sort of an overview of the gameplay:

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Oh yeaaaaaaaaaaah, I had this on my demo disc.


#70

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Many a person bought Brave Fencer Musashi ONLY for the Final Fantasy 8 demo disk... which is funny, because Brave Fencer Musashi was a much better game in pretty much every way.


#71

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

AshburnerX said:
Many a person bought Brave Fencer Musashi ONLY for the Final Fantasy 8 demo disk... which is funny, because Brave Fencer Musashi was a much better game in pretty much every way.
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I have seen half of the Spoony series. I agree. I haven't seen all of it because his archiving system confuses me.


#72

Covar

Covar

AshburnerX said:
Many a person bought Brave Fencer Musashi ONLY for the Final Fantasy 8 demo disk... which is funny, because Brave Fencer Musashi was a much better game in pretty much every way.
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Kind of like Zone of the Enders and Metal Gear Solid 2. Who knew that demo would have the only worthwhile part of the entire game.


#73

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Metal Gear Solid 2 is okay, if you understand the meme process and what Hideo Kojima was trying to do with the game. It was basically a Take That at everyone who had said they wanted to be just like Snake, without realizing what that would actually take to make it happen.


#74

Bowielee

Bowielee

AshburnerX said:
Metal Gear Solid 2 is okay, if you understand the meme process and what Hideo Kojima was trying to do with the game. It was basically a Take That at everyone who had said they wanted to be just like Snake, without realizing what that would actually take to make it happen.
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I think you're thinking of MGS 3: snake eater. MGS2: sons of liberty was the one with Raiden.


#75

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Maybe it's just me but I thought the MGS series got better with every release and culminated in the most epic way possible with 4.


#76

Adam

Adammon

I think the gameplay got better, but the writing got outright retarded.


#77

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Disagree.

I loved the mass conspiracy, the Snake brothers twists, the family involvements, the reoccuring characters actually aging and changing, the new "weapons" in every one, the way the stakes got higher and higher.

Really the whole thing was an enjoyable experience for me.


#78

Bowielee

Bowielee

I think that it just started getting bogged down in its own mythos. To the point where MGS4 was 90% exposition dump to wrap up all the loose plot threads.


#79

Adam

Adammon

Bowielee said:
I think that it just started getting bogged down in its own mythos. To the point where MGS4 was 90% exposition dump to wrap up all the loose plot threads.
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Maybe that's more appropriate than my opinion on the writing. It was so convoluted that I felt I was taking a course on Metal Gear Solid versus playing Metal Gear Solid.


#80

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

*shrug* Better than not explaining.


#81

Covar

Covar

I think when cutscenes outnumber gameplay by a factor of 2-1 you no longer have a video game. You have an interactive movie with intermissions.


#82

Adam

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
*shrug* Better than not explaining.
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Oh, I would agree on that. In some instances "A wizard did it" would have been somewhat preferable to disappearing up one's own anus trying to weasel out of the corner of writing one has painted themselves into.


#83

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Perhaps I should have said I enjoyed MGS1-3 as amazing games and 4 as an amazing movie that wraps up an amazing story.... however, I still thought the MGS4 gameplay (the little there was) was flipping perfect.


#84

Adam

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
Perhaps I should have said I enjoyed MGS1-3 as amazing games and 4 as an amazing movie that wraps up an amazing story.... however, I still thought the MGS4 gameplay (the little there was) was flipping perfect.
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No argument.


#85

fade

fade

MSG4 is the one PS3 "classic" i've avoided primarily because I've heard this rumor of very little gameplay. I figured that was also why it's less than 10 bucks at gamestop.


#86

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Only worth buying if you played and enjoyed the first 3. Also going in knowing it's ALOT of "video".


#87

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

I thought the series peaked with MGS3. It was pretty darn close to perfect. Lots of great gameplay, cool story, great pacing, and less expository dialogue-as-filler.

Plus, you got to hurt "Raiden" before MGS4 made him Cyborg McAwesomeHeels

While I had a total blast playing MGS4, I couldn't stand the weapons dealer, and if I hadn't played the three previous games through multiple times I would have just given up after 3rd 20-minute cutscene in less than 4 hours. It's why I don't recommend the game to people.


#88

Covar

Covar

I can't wait for the ZOE hd remakes.


#89

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

SpecialKO said:
I thought the series peaked with MGS3. It was pretty darn close to perfect. Lots of great gameplay, cool story, great pacing, and less expository dialogue-as-filler.

Plus, you got to hurt "Raiden" before MGS4 made him Cyborg McAwesomeHeels

While I had a total blast playing MGS4, I couldn't stand the weapons dealer, and if I hadn't played the three previous games through multiple times I would have just given up after 3rd 20-minute cutscene in less than 4 hours. It's why I don't recommend the game to people.
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See, again I have to disagree.
I thought what happens with Raiden in MGS4 was amazing. After all the fan whining we got to see him growth, change and resolve in a way I would have never expected. Hell if anything he's one of the best things about MGS4.

I will say this though, as I played through and finished MGS1-3 multiple times, MGS4 is a "one-timer" for sure. As for not recommending it? Nah, I'd definitely tell any MGS fan to play and finish it at least once.


#90

Jay

Jay

Buck Rodgers on the Genesis. Been playing it during my lunch breaks.

Good times.


#91

Bowielee

Bowielee

I have to say that I loved MGS4. But I knew going into it that it was mostly cutscenes. I do wish there had been more gameplay, but I think Shego and I are generally on the same page as far as liking deep, sometimes convoluted, lore in games. Hell, the Legacy of Kain/Soul Reavers are my favorite series of all time, and you need a freakin' roadmap to follow all the plots and twists in those games.

I love those games so much, I plan on this being my first tattoo.

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#92

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

What I wouldn't give for a current gen revival of LoK.... even though I just know they'd screw them up.

I replayed the first one so many times, I love the fact that they used "that ending" as the canon version.


#93

Bowielee

Bowielee

LoK was the very first game I downloaded off the PSN on my PS3. I need to pick up copies of Soul Reaver and Soul Reaver 2. The first one, I owned on the Dreamcast, and the second I had on PC, but the disk got cracked in half when I moved.

It also doesn't hurt that they got TREMENDOUS voice actors. Tony Jay as the elder god, Simon Templeman as Kain, Michael Bell as Raziel.

Though, as much as I want more LoK games, I'm not too keen on this : http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/20/rumor-soul-reaver-reboot-in-development.aspx


#94

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Soul Reaver but not LoK? BLASPHEMY!

Also I agree 100% that the voices really carried and amazing story.


#95

Bowielee

Bowielee

Plus the fact that it's a reboot... just... ish...


#96

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

I still need to beat MGS. That game is hard.


#97

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Maybe they're saving LoK for the reboot prequel.


#98

Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

I remember I had this Dexter's lab game for the gameboy color. It....could have been better. Mandark Madness I think?


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