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Prediction: G.I Joe out grosses Transmurfers 2? Your take

Aug 6, 2009#1

Alucard

Still taking into consideration how 'profitable' Transmurfers 2: Flop of the Fallen was do you think it is highly plausible
that this G.I. Joe incarnation will be more profitable than the other flop of twisted metal and crappy shitty dialogue?

I'm slightly optimistic because my opinions are so low of the film that I won't be disappointed and plus I'm seeing two
flicks for the price of one at the drive in tomorrow evening so not a complete loss.

I went in slightly critical of Abrams Star Trek and that was a positive experience it was a whole lot more damn decent
than Lucas' shitty attempt at the pile of erroneous crap that was episodes 1 through 3.

Aug 6, 2009#2

The Lovely Boehner

This thread couldn't be any more wrong. Transformers 2 is #9 all time in domestic box office. There is no definition that ends in it being a flop at all. I would bet literally every dollar in the world that G.I. Joe doesn't beat Transformers 2. There is no fucking way on earth that will happen.

Aug 6, 2009#3

Tress

Charlie Dont Surf said:
This thread couldn't be any more wrong. Transformers 2 is #9 all time in domestic box office. There is no definition that ends in it being a flop at all. I would bet literally every dollar in the world that G.I. Joe doesn't beat Transformers 2. There is no smurfing way on earth that will happen.

:uhhuh:

Aug 7, 2009#4

Steven Soderburgin

Charlie Dont Surf said:
This thread couldn't be any more wrong. Transformers 2 is #9 all time in domestic box office. There is no definition that ends in it being a flop at all. I would bet literally every dollar in the world that G.I. Joe doesn't beat Transformers 2. There is no fucking way on earth that will happen.

Aug 7, 2009#5

Aisaku

In before the I told you sos of either side.

That said, if we were to go by past evidence it's likely Transformers won't be beaten.

Aug 7, 2009#6

I think it'll do well. Very well, in fact. But it won't rake in TF2 numbers. It certainly couldn't be a worse movie, in terms of quality.

Aug 7, 2009#7

Far

We had a midnight showing for G.I. Joe tonight and it sold a grand total of 98 tickets. To put it bluntly, that is fucking atrocious.

Aug 7, 2009#8

doomdragon6

Thing is, Transformers 2 was already the "BIG MOVIE OF THE YEAR!!!" and Transformers 2 built on that, getting even more sales.

G.I. Joe? Nobody's gonna give a @#$% about that movie. It looks terrible. That, on top of how it's not "THE BIG MOVIE OF THE YEAR!!!" either.

Aug 7, 2009#9

Bubble181

If anything, I'd put money on GI Joe flopping horribly.
Domestically, it might make a decent coin, though it'll get nowhere near TF2. Globally, I'm pretty sure GI Joe will seriously underwhelm. The movie - and the PR - seem completely geared to middle US, not the world.

Aug 7, 2009#10

Frankie Williamson

Though I believe there's a greater chance that my penis will suddenly become 17 inches longer overnight than G.I.Joe has of beating Transformers in the box office, I'm still pretty stoked to see it if for nothing more than seeing if it could be anywhere near the God awful train wreck of misery Transformers was.

Aug 7, 2009#11

The Lovely Boehner

Despite my harsh words in here, I do believe G.I. Joe will be the better movie, but that is not high praise.

Aug 7, 2009#12

Espy

I've heard G.I. Joe is actually a fun movie, dumb, but fun and full of action, unlike Transformers 2 which was BOOOMBLARGRUN!PACHOW!STUPID!RACIST!WAAAARBLGGGGG!

Aug 7, 2009#13

Charlie Dont Surf said:
Despite my harsh words in here, I do believe G.I. Joe will be the better movie, but that is not high praise.

I think in comparison, Catwoman was a better movie than TF2.

Oh, that's right. I said it.

Aug 7, 2009#14

V.Bond

Bubble181 said:
The movie - and the PR - seem completely geared to middle US, not the world.

Which is strange, considering that they went and made the Joes an international fighting....squad, instead of one based in the U.S., specifically to appeal to the global market.

Aug 7, 2009#15

The Lovely Boehner

ThatNickGuy said:
Charlie Dont Surf said:

Despite my harsh words in here, I do believe G.I. Joe will be the better movie, but that is not high praise.

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I think in comparison, Catwoman was a better movie than TF2.

Oh, that's right. I said it.

That's not really going out on a limb thing there. Despite it's terrible script and acting and everything, Catwoman had a coherent plot and scenes where you didn't want to kill yourself.

Aug 7, 2009#16

bigcountry23

TF2's "opening weekend" started on a Tuesday. If you want to do a fair apples to apples comparison, you need to see how it did Tues/Wed/Thurs vs other movies.

Aug 7, 2009#17

The Lovely Boehner

bigcountry23 said:
TF2's "opening weekend" started on a Tuesday. If you want to do a fair apples to apples comparison, you need to see how it did Tues/Wed/Thurs vs other movies.

The only real way to compare those mid-week release movies with traditional Fri release movies is total. Day 1(wed) and Day 1(fri) are going to be a lot different. Day 6(Wed) and Day 1(Wed) are equally incomparable.

Aug 7, 2009#18

Steve

The success of Transformers 2 has solidified Michael Bay as the go to guy in Hollywood when you want to bring in a fat bank role. Now if he could reboot the Star Wars franchise with Shia playing Luke the financial intake would single handedly end the recession.

Aug 7, 2009#19

WolfOfOdin

Steve said:
The success of Transformers 2 has solidified Michael Bay as the go to guy in Hollywood when you want to bring in a fat bank role. Now if he could reboot the Star Wars franchise with Shia playing Luke the financial intake would single handedly end the recession.

Keeping in mind, the Michael Bay Death Star explosion would blind the audience.

Aug 7, 2009#20

klew

WolfOfOdin said:
Steve said:

The success of Transformers 2 has solidified Michael Bay as the go to guy in Hollywood when you want to bring in a fat bank role. Now if he could reboot the Star Wars franchise with Shia playing Luke the financial intake would single handedly end the recession.

Click to expand...

Keeping in mind, the Michael Bay Death Star explosion would blind the audience.

Remember how he got permission to film around the pyramids? He would ask to blow up a real moon. One of those tiny ones around Saturn or Jupiter.

Aug 7, 2009#21

WolfOfOdin

klew said:
WolfOfOdin said:

Steve said:

The success of Transformers 2 has solidified Michael Bay as the go to guy in Hollywood when you want to bring in a fat bank role. Now if he could reboot the Star Wars franchise with Shia playing Luke the financial intake would single handedly end the recession.

Click to expand...

Keeping in mind, the Michael Bay Death Star explosion would blind the audience.

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Remember how he got permission to film around the pyramids? He would ask to blow up a real moon. One of those tiny ones around Saturn or Jupiter.

So you're saying Michael Bay is Cobra Commander?

Aug 7, 2009#22

Cog

Where is the "G.I. Joe sucks" thread? I just saw the movie and it was... fun. I can't wait for someone to tell me why I am wrong for thinking that.

Aug 7, 2009#23

Krisken

Cog said:
Where is the "G.I. Joe sucks" thread? I just saw the movie and it was... fun. I can't wait for someone to tell me why I am wrong for thinking that.

Well, the good news is you probably won't pass out from holding your breath! :slywink:

Aug 7, 2009#24

Steve

Cog said:
Where is the "G.I. Joe sucks" thread? I just saw the movie and it was... fun. I can't wait for someone to tell me why I am wrong for thinking that.

Give Charlie a day or so.

Aug 7, 2009#25

Cog

I hope so. I can't really enjoy a movie until someone from the internet agrees with me.

Aug 7, 2009#26

Tress

If you keep trying to bait someone into a flamefest, don't complain when it actually happens.

Aug 7, 2009#27

Cog

Not my intention. Sarcasm is really my second language. I will shut up now.

Aug 7, 2009#28

Shakey

Cog said:
Where is the "G.I. Joe sucks" thread? I just saw the movie and it was... fun. I can't wait for someone to tell me why I am wrong for thinking that.

You're wrong. I haven't seen it yet, but you're just wrong. This movie has destroyed my childhood. I hate you for allowing $wood to justify putting out this crap.

P.S. Fuck you

Aug 8, 2009#29

S

Scydron

And...time. There you go.

Aug 8, 2009#30

Troll

Shakey said:
Cog said:

Where is the "G.I. Joe sucks" thread? I just saw the movie and it was... fun. I can't wait for someone to tell me why I am wrong for thinking that.

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You're wrong. I haven't seen it yet, but you're just wrong. This movie has destroyed my childhood. I hate you for allowing $wood to justify putting out this crap.

P.S. Fuck you

Aug 8, 2009#31

The Lovely Boehner

I don't even have any harsh feelings towards G.I. Joe the movie really.

Aug 8, 2009#32

Steven Soderburgin

I'm pretty much completely indifferent to the movie itself. What is interesting to me about it was this.

EDIT: Although if someone went to a theater playing both G.I. Joe and The Hurt Locker and bought a ticket for G.I. Joe, it's unlikely that we could be friends.

Aug 8, 2009#33

blotsfan

Steve said:
The success of Transformers 2 has solidified Michael Bay as the go to guy in Hollywood when you want to bring in a fat bank role. Now if he could reboot the Star Wars franchise with Shia playing Luke the financial intake would single handedly end the recession.

No no no. The guy who plays Indiana Jones is also Han Solo.

Aug 8, 2009#34

DarkAudit

Kissinger said:
I'm pretty much completely indifferent to the movie itself. What is interesting to me about it was this.

EDIT: Although if someone went to a theater playing both G.I. Joe and The Hurt Locker and bought a ticket for G.I. Joe, it's unlikely that we could be friends.

Can't seem to get there, no matter the browser. Downforeveryoneorjustme says it's broke.

Aug 8, 2009#35

The Lovely Boehner

It made $22m on Friday which is not much more than Transformers 2 made on midnight showings, but still a shitload of money.

Aug 8, 2009#36

Aisaku

WolfOfOdin said:
Steve said:

The success of Transformers 2 has solidified Michael Bay as the go to guy in Hollywood when you want to bring in a fat bank role. Now if he could reboot the Star Wars franchise with Shia playing Luke the financial intake would single handedly end the recession.

Click to expand...

Keeping in mind, the Michael Bay Death Star explosion would blind the audience.

That would be so bad... that I'd be morbidly curious to watch.

Aug 8, 2009#37

Gusto

I saw GI Joe last night.

It was the most retarded movie I have ever seen, and I'm glad I didn't see Transformers 2.

Aug 8, 2009#38

Steve

Gusto, was there any part worth watching?

Aug 8, 2009#39

The Lovely Boehner

Gusto said:
I saw GI Joe last night.

It was the most retarded movie I have ever seen, and I'm glad I didn't see Transformers 2.

You didn't get it since it was an American story for middle america regular joes.

Aug 8, 2009#40

Cog

Aug 8, 2009#41

Tress

Here we go, indeed.
Here's a few gems from the Rolling Stone review:

I don't know what to say about the acting, writing and directing in G.I. Joe because I couldn't find any. There were scads of pretty people posing awkwardly in military chic and tossing out lame one-liners.

In a tight economy, why do we lavish cash on movies based on plastic battle toys? Maybe we just want some dumb fun. Too bad they left out the fun part. There are special effects, lots of them, but despite a reported $170 million budget, they look shockingly crappy.

I could load you up with more plot details, but this mercilessly incoherent, galactically stupid movie left me too numb to type.

EDIT: There was one good thing he had to say about GI Joe:

I can tell you that G.I. Joe isn't as rank as Transformers 2. The people who made it, spearhead by director Stephen Sommers (whose hack touch is all over the Mummy trilogy and Van Helsing), actually seem to be enjoying tarting themselves out for a paycheck. Transformers 2 director Michael Bay, on the other hand, is clearly a cynic who believes audiences deserve the garbage he so profitably dumps on them.

Aug 8, 2009#42

Gusto

Steve said:
Gusto, was there any part worth watching?

There were a couple scenes (or like, 5 second clips buried inside of scenes) where some cool shit happened. Beyond that, it was pretty fucking ridiculous. I'd save it for a rental, if anything.

The funniest part of the movie was during the beginning where they show the production companies that helped with the show, and there was an elaborately animated Hasbro logo.

The movie LITERALLY starts with a black screen with the phrase "IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE..." written in white. I immediately fought my urge to walk out by humming the MST3K theme song.

-- less than a minute ago --

ETA:

Disclaimer: I am in no way a huge GI Joe fan. There might have been tons of jokes or scenes that would have made sense to a diehard, but then, none of the other people I went with seemed to get them either.

Aug 8, 2009#43

Cog

I wish I could say anything about the acting, but all the "big" movies here are dubbed so, all of them sound the same to me.

Aug 8, 2009#44

Shawn

I'm not going to defend it a lot. It is a big, corny, summer movie after all. I'll mention a few of the reasons I enjoyed it though. I loved the villains first of all. I'm a nut for viscious, vile, and over the top villainy. Destro is the super businessman he's supposed to be. Cobra Commander is wonderfully sadistic and I especially loved the gravely voice. Zartan is so evily optimistic and jovial as he casually kills and switches outfits with people, then walks off whistling.
As far as the Joes, I can't say that many of them were as fun to watch as the villains, but Snake Eyes stands out and is nearly perfect in my eyes.
And of all the scenes I especially loved the Paris chase scene. I think the Joe force shined the most there.
[spoiler:1fszp5tp]And the of course I love it because the villains win. Or at least they have the advantage for the sequel, having quietly replaced the American President with Zartan.[/spoiler:1fszp5tp]

Aug 8, 2009#45

Steven Soderburgin

Is it true that when the secret arctic base is blown up, the ice sinks in the water?

Aug 9, 2009#46

Shawn

Kissinger said:
Is it true that when the secret arctic base is blown up, the ice sinks in the water?

It is indeed true. There is no explanation offered for this event, neither is there a lampshade on it. They were hoping that people either wouldn't notice or didn't care. There were so many fight scenes and plot reveals going on that it wasn't much of a concern for me.

Aug 9, 2009#47

LittleSin

I know how you can watch the G.I. Joe movie without spending a dime.

Go to fanfiction.net, look up G.I. Joe, narrow search to Duke/Baroness, READ!

I am so angry at this movie. It insulted my intelligence. I really do believe they just read fan fiction based on the show and based a movie on it.

Oh and the Baroness is Russian! Not American! GOD.

Aug 9, 2009#48

Frankie Williamson

From everything I heard the movie could have been an episode of the show (with some differences here or there). I'm totally gonna go see it today. Cornball country, population me.

Aug 9, 2009#49

Gusto

Kissinger said:
Is it true that when the secret arctic base is blown up, the ice sinks in the water?

I think something shut off in my brain when this happened.

Also?

[spoiler:2poig3j9]Underwater ice explosions.[/spoiler:2poig3j9]

Aug 9, 2009#50

Steven Soderburgin

Gusto said:
I think something shut off in my brain when this happened.

I thought you were supposed to just turn off your brain when watching this kind of movie anyway????

Aug 9, 2009#51

Hailey Knight

Gusto said:
The movie LITERALLY starts with a black screen with the phrase "IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE..." written in white. I immediately fought my urge to walk out by humming the MST3K theme song.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Beautiful!

Mention of the pyramids shooting makes me realize that the "It takes a lot of calls to make a movie, and only one to ruin them, so please turn off your cell phones" bit before a movie in theaters, where this director insists on blowing up the real Mount Rushmore for his film "Robots from Space" was intentionally Michael Bay.

"Couldn't you just blow up a model?"
"Yeah, I could... if I wanted it to SUCK."

Aug 9, 2009#52

Alucard

[spoiler:3tseq5z2]I'm wondering how they'll set it up for a sequal since they have a stand in for the president.

Was fairly obvious that the Baroness was Duke's former girlfriend and that her brother was the doctor later commander of Cobra.
Was also cool how his voice at the end sounded like the maniacal voice from the animated show.

Thought the super soldiers on the Cobra side were pretty cool especially when they attacked the convoy carrying the nano warheads.

It was also fucking hilarious how all the Joe's got deported from France forever for failing to stop the Eiffel tower from the terroist attack.
I mean c'mon really your upset that you can't go to France any more big deal.

The only cool fights were the ones between Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes especially at the end of the film where he stabs him in the chest
and Storm Shadow falls into a watery grave most likely not dead[/spoiler:3tseq5z2]

Aug 9, 2009#53

LittleSin

BlackCat said:
[spoiler:104gzf1z]I'm wondering how they'll set it up for a sequal since they have a stand in for the president.

Was fairly obvious that the Baroness was Duke's former girlfriend and that her brother was the doctor later commander of Cobra.
Was also cool how his voice at the end sounded like the maniacal voice from the animated show.

Thought the super soldiers on the Cobra side were pretty cool especially when they attacked the convoy carrying the nano warheads.

It was also fucking hilarious how all the Joe's got deported from France forever for failing to stop the Eiffel tower from the terroist attack.
I mean c'mon really your upset that you can't go to France any more big deal.

The only cool fights were the ones between Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes especially at the end of the film where he stabs him in the chest
and Storm Shadow falls into a watery grave most likely not dead[/spoiler:104gzf1z]

[spoiler:104gzf1z]Storm Shadow is probably dead. In the comics he cloned after he was killed.[/spoiler:104gzf1z]

Aug 9, 2009#54

Gusto

[spoiler:2jdgkagy]If he's fucking alive I will throw something. The dude got stabbed through the chest and fell into the ARCTIC OCEAN. I mean I freaked out when he got off the airship at the north pole wearing nothing but his trenchcoat, but to fall into Arctic water means he better be dead.[/spoiler:2jdgkagy]

Aug 9, 2009#55

Norris

Well, some of the ice had metal tunnels and machinery built into it...but not all of it. :/

Anyhow, I enjoyed it. Some stuff bothered me, but it's a movie based on a toyline. Directed by the guy who did the "Mummy" movies. It was stupid fun, the plot was more coherent than that Rolling Stone review gives it credit for, and I hope it gets a sequel.

LittleSin said:
Oh and the Baroness is Russian! Not American! GOD.

Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow are supposed to be Vietnam veterans, Cobra Commander is supposed to be a used-car salesman, etc. The movie is different. Big whoop.

[spoiler:1qeo3fdf]EDIT: Yeah, Storm Shadow won't be dead. He might be cloned, he might have been saved at the last second by some Vipers, he might have used super-secret special ninja techniques to survive. But he's Snake-Eye's arch-enemy, one of Cobra's top agents, and an utter fan-favorite character. He will not stay dead.[/spoiler:1qeo3fdf]

Aug 9, 2009#56

Shegokigo

Gusto said:
Disclaimer: I am in no way a huge GI Joe fan. There might have been tons of jokes or scenes that would have made sense to a diehard, but then, none of the other people I went with seemed to get them either.

No, they pretty much said " :finger: " to the diehards too.

Great Action flick.

Terrible "GI Joe" movie.

Two words why:

The Baroness. :devil:

Only thing "GI Joe" about that movie was Snake Eyes. The end. :humph:

Aug 9, 2009#57

Cog

Really? For me was the other way around. The movie felt like an episode from the tv series. Could you elaborate about the diferences?

Maybe I liked it for the nostalgy but I can live with that.

Aug 9, 2009#58

Frankie Williamson

Biggest difference seems to be Baroness.

Aug 9, 2009#59

Shegokigo

Biggest diff was the Baroness? Are you kidding me? Did anyone here even READ the comics or watch the show?

I could fill paragraphs with how they screwed up the characters.

This would have been an enjoyable action movie if it had a different title and the characters had different names, but if you're going to call it GI Joe, was it so hard to stick with the original characters the way THEY WERE!?!

Aug 9, 2009#60

Steven Soderburgin

Oh no they weren't faithful to the stupid shitty tv show or the toys which have gone through countless redesigns since they were first launched.

Oh what a tragedy.

Aug 9, 2009#61

Shegokigo

Seriously, try to stop being an ass for 2 seconds, it doesn't help your argument in any way.

Why bother calling it GI Joe if you're just going to use the names and nothingelse?

Aug 9, 2009#62

Steven Soderburgin

Because they're trying to make it bigger for the screen. They're updating it for a modern audience. The TV show was completely terrible.

They update the toys for modern audiences. They update comic book characters and they types of stories they tell. Don't be so attached to nostalgia that you completely lose perspective. Don't think for a second that they made this movie in order to make fanboys happy. The movie is essentially a long toy commercial. The people who they are trying to appeal to are kids, despite the PG-13 rating.

Aug 9, 2009#63

Shegokigo

So how exactly does changing bloodlines and relationship angles make it "bigger for the screen"? How about nationalities and history?

Aug 9, 2009#64

Steven Soderburgin

Shegokigo said:
So how exactly does changing bloodlines and relationship angles make it "bigger for the screen"? How about nationalities and history?

That doesn't make it bigger for the screen, but it does give it the possibility of having wider appeal. When you adapt something for the screen, even a simplistic kids show, you have to make changes to make it work. Any good writer would tell you that.

I haven't seen the movie, and I don't care about the cartoon, but come the fuck on.

Were the changes necessary? I don't know, probably not. Do they matter? No.

Aug 9, 2009#65

Shegokigo

Kissinger said:
I haven't seen the movie, and I don't care about the cartoon, but come the fuck on.

Oh then you have no base in this argument at all. I'll wait for someone with an opinion based on something remotely connected.

For the record, I said it was a good movie.

Aug 9, 2009#66

Steven Soderburgin

I am just saying you should have a little perspective. Superficial changes to shallow cartoon characters from twenty years ago created specifically to sell toys is not something to get this upset about.

Aug 9, 2009#67

Shegokigo

Again, I said it was a great movie. I'm quite entitled to say "It didn't feel like GI Joe because nothing was similar other than Snake Eyes" if nothing was similar am I not?

I am however going to go on record saying the acting was stale and the script for the characters was extremely one dimentional, though I didn't expect more than that for a film of this style.

Aug 9, 2009#68

Tress

Kissinger said:
I am just saying you should have a little perspective. Superficial changes to shallow cartoon characters from twenty years ago created specifically to sell toys is not something to get this upset about.

Welcome to the internet.

Aug 9, 2009#69

Shegokigo

Tress said:
Kissinger said:

I am just saying you should have a little perspective. Superficial changes to shallow cartoon characters from twenty years ago created specifically to sell toys is not something to get this upset about.

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Welcome to the internet.

Are you even remotely following along?

Aug 9, 2009#70

Steven Soderburgin

I guess so, Shego. I mean, if those characters and their histories are what define G.I. Joe for you, then sure, I suppose that's fair.

As for the quality of the movie itself, I guess I'll have to take your word for it because I have zero interest in it outside of the insulting marketing.

Aug 9, 2009#71

Shegokigo

"If those characters and histories are what define G.I. Joe" ?

If they don't, what exactly does?

Aug 9, 2009#72

Steven Soderburgin

I dunno, the toys could do it, the idea of this evil terrorist organization being defeated by an elite team of soldiers time and time again could do it. Hell, Sgt. Slaughter could be the defining element of G.I. Joe for some people.

Aug 9, 2009#73

Shegokigo

If it was the toys, they would have used different character names I'm sure. Instead they went with the ones most popularized by the comics and TV show.

Evil terrorists vs elite team of soldiers? Could have been done with a different title/names of characters.

Sgt.Slaughter? Wasn't even in the film.

Aug 9, 2009#74

Steven Soderburgin

I am really not at all invested in this and I pretty much already conceded the the argument to you because I have no interest in dragging out this pointless discussion, but my point was that I seems like a silly complaint to make considering the cartoon didn't exactly make the characters rich and deep. If you really love those characters, I can understand being a bit annoyed at those changes, but whatever, the comics and television series are still there, and this is just a new interpretation of the characters and it doesn't make all other versions disappear

Aug 9, 2009#75

JCM

*ugh*

Just saw the new GiJoe line. You have "generic soldiers in black" in the 80's GIJOE size, the original large size with clothes and a kid-friendly cute chibi Joes.

*ugh*

At least the movie felt like GIJOE, but then thats because of Snake-eyes.

Aug 9, 2009#76

Cog

AND the secret bases.

Aug 9, 2009#77

Shegokigo

True, the bases were very inspired.

Aug 9, 2009#78

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
Sgt.Slaughter? Wasn't even in the film.

I think some stuff happened between Vince McMahon and him, which is why he didn't get the OK for a movie appearance (I'm assuming that the WWE owns rights to the Sgt. Slaughter character). Robert Remus was relieved of his backstage producer duties awhile back and only serves the company in a limited capacity these days. He IS supposed to be the special guest host on Monday Night RAW tomorrow though, so maybe things are better between them?

Aug 9, 2009#79

Cog

Shegokigo said:
True, the bases were very inspired.

AND the vehicles.

When I was I kid the vehicles were more important that the characters. That and making a secret base first.

Aug 9, 2009#80

Alucard

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090809/e ... _boxoffice

Well it can't be all that bad apparently its the top gross earner this past weekend earning around 56.2 million dollars

Aug 9, 2009#81

Hailey Knight

BlackCat said:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090809/entertainment/entertainment_us_canada_film_boxoffice

Well it can't be all that bad apparently its the top gross earner this past weekend earning around 56.2 million dollars

What the hell does that mean? Meet the Spartans was number one its weekend.

Aug 9, 2009#82

Tress

Shegokigo said:
Tress said:

Kissinger said:

I am just saying you should have a little perspective. Superficial changes to shallow cartoon characters from twenty years ago created specifically to sell toys is not something to get this upset about.

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Welcome to the internet.

Click to expand...

Are you even remotely following along?

Yes, I am. I am not, however, taking any of this seriously. But hey, since you're in aggro-mode I'll just bow out and let you continue raging at anyone who appears to disagree with you.

Aug 9, 2009#83

Shegokigo

Rabble Rabble Rabble!

Aug 9, 2009#84

Steven Soderburgin

BlackCat said:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090809/entertainment/entertainment_us_canada_film_boxoffice

Well it can't be all that bad apparently its the top gross earner this past weekend earning around 56.2 million dollars

That literally means nothing other than the marketing campaign was fairly successful.

Aug 9, 2009#85

Shawn

I'm glad for the update. Yeah they changed a lot regarding the characters. I don't see any reason why the Baronness couldn't have been Russian and still work it into the plot.
But you have to give the movie credit in at least making Cobra seem like an actual threat. I mean we're talking an organization who tried to take over the world by holding a telathon during an episode of the cartoon series. And of course there was that whole kid friendly issue of no one ever dying in the series. They solved that right-quick for the movie when Zartan brutally murders Cover Girl.

So yeah. They changed some things. But it's still GI Joe to me. Just a GI Joe that has advanced along with the generation it entertained back in the 80s.

Aug 9, 2009#86

Shegokigo

Again, I don't see how changing bloodlines (Duke/Hawk) relationship angles (Scarlett/Duke/SnakeEyes) and entire histories/backrounds (CobraCommander/Destro/Baroness) have anything to do with "advancing along" with generations.

Aug 9, 2009#87

Shawn

Shegokigo said:
Again, I don't see how changing bloodlines (Duke/Hawk) relationship angles (Scarlett/Duke/SnakeEyes) and entire histories/backrounds (CobraCommander/Destro/Baroness) have anything to do with "advancing along" with generations.

Typical reboot mindset. Be it in comics, movies, or shows. Take existing characters and/or plotline and rework it. Some people don't mind that kind of thing. Others have invested enough in the original concepts that they don't like the changes.
As Kissinger mentioned earlier it's not like a reboot invalidates everything you read in the comics or watched on the show. This is something my roommate tends to believe and refuses to see the movie because it jeopordizes everything GI.Joe means to him (his words).

I'm glad you enjoyed it as a movie though.

Aug 9, 2009#88

Shegokigo

I disagree. Would Star Trek have gotten the rave reviews it got from both fans AND critics if it hadn't explained the "differences" in the "reboot"? I doubt it.

To me this feels like another X-3 and Resident Evil.

Aug 9, 2009#89

Cog

I didn't know anything about the relations between the characters but I enjoyed GIJoe when I was a kid and maybe because of that I enjoyed the movie... I guess that knowing is not half the battle.

Aug 9, 2009#90

Shegokigo

Cog said:
I didn't know anything about the relations between the characters but I enjoyed GIJoe when I was a kid and maybe because of that I enjoyed the movie... I guess that knowing is not half the battle.

I can see how someone with little to no knowledge of the original series/comics would have enjoyed the movie (other than the cringe-worthy dialogue) but I'm coming from a different point of view, which is why I was bothered, I will say this, I'm very much looking foward to the sequel which I'm sure will go something like:

[spoiler:3bxo4eyc]Secret president will disassemble GI Joe, release Cobra Commander and Destro, Baroness will be "reactivated" and we'll have an all out war[/spoiler:3bxo4eyc]

Aug 9, 2009#91

Shawn

Shegokigo said:
I disagree. Would Star Trek have gotten the rave reviews it got from both fans AND critics if it hadn't explained the "differences" in the "reboot"? I doubt it.

To me this feels like another X-3 and Resident Evil.

I think Star Trek cheated the system by explaining the differences. It was a creative "cheat", but the reboot would have happened regardless. Luckily Star Trek is notorious for having an explanation for everything, so it was just a convenience thing. While I'm sure the explanation was an added bonus, I don't think it would have made much of a difference in how likable it was. Die-hard fans were still not accepting it, even as an explained reboot. I remember hearing many arguments concerning "They just invalidated every single series except Enterprise! And that one sucked!"

You mention X-3 as a notoriously bad reboot, but you don't mention the other two in the trilogy which are just as much reboots but are known for being good. Heck. I thought the second one was pretty darn close for best comic book movie ever.
And of course there is the Batman Begins reboot. Superman. Etc.

And I thought the first Resident Evil movie fit in very well with the storyline of the games without too much retconning involved.

Aug 9, 2009#92

Norris

Shegokigo said:
Again, I don't see how changing bloodlines (Duke/Hawk)

Wait what? Duke and Hawk were probably among the closest to their old storylines.

Shegokigo said:
relationship angles (Scarlett/Duke/SnakeEyes)

The reason for changing the Scarlett/Snake-Eyes love thing is because Snake-Eyes never speaks and we never see his face. It's the same reason he was a background character in the cartoon and was saddled with Jinx and Kamakura with him at all times during Sigma Six.

Shegokigo said:
and entire histories/backrounds (CobraCommander/Destro/Baroness)

Baroness I will give you. They hit the broad strokes (hates a key Joe because she thinks he killed her brother, has a thing with Destro, not loyal particularly loyal to Cobra, is a baroness) but really just created their own character. Aside from the for realz metal head at the end, Destro was largely unaltered as far as I could tell. Cobra Commander...was a used car salesman. Who got mad at the U.S. government when his brother came back from 'Nam all depressed, founded an anti-government militia and then......somehow became an international terrorist with connections to Russian Baronesses, rogue ninjas, Scottish arms dealers, Austrian mercenaries, and a biker gang lead by a ninja master of disguise ex-mercenary. Even in the comics it didn't make any mother fucking sense and I am glad they basically just grafted the British version of the character onto The Baronesses' story, threw in a little Darth Vader, and gave him an even slightly more plausible back story.

Aug 9, 2009#93

Shegokigo

*********************SPOILERS IN THIS POST SCROLL PAST IF YOU ARE CONCERNED**********************

Dorko said:
Wait what? Duke and Hawk were probably among the closest to their old storylines.

Big apologies there. I got Hawk and Falcon mixed up (damn birds). Though the fact that Duke was a "one woman man" did kind of take away from his original style. Again, my mistake.

Dorko said:
The reason for changing the Scarlett/Snake-Eyes love thing is because Snake-Eyes never speaks and we never see his face. It's the same reason he was a background character in the cartoon and was saddled with Jinx and Kamakura with him at all times during Sigma Six.

Except you know, there is NOTHING between Scarlett and Duke in the film at all, and they put some idiot story with Ripcord instead.

Dorko said:
Baroness I will give you. They hit the broad strokes (hates a key Joe because she thinks he killed her brother, has a thing with Destro, not loyal particularly loyal to Cobra, is a baroness) but really just created their own character. Aside from the for realz metal head at the end, Destro was largely unaltered as far as I could tell. Cobra Commander...was a used car salesman. Who got mad at the U.S. government when his brother came back from 'Nam all depressed, founded an anti-government militia and then......somehow became an international terrorist with connections to Russian Baronesses, rogue ninjas, Scottish arms dealers, Austrian mercenaries, and a biker gang lead by a ninja master of disguise ex-mercenary. Even in the comics it didn't make any mother fucking sense and I am glad they basically just grafted the British version of the character onto The Baronesses' story, threw in a little Darth Vader, and gave him an even slightly more plausible back story.

Perhaps I was raging a bit at the sheer destruction of the Baroness character I overlooked the "good" reboot of Destro, I really liked what they did with him on reflection. Cobra Commander on the other hand, it's not so much they went for a different route with the source material, but WHAT they made him "come from" that really threw me, that and the horrible mask/thing he has on his face towards the end.

Thanks for putting some light on the issues though Dorko. Much appreciated.

Aug 9, 2009#94

Norris

Shegokigo said:
*********************SPOILERS IN THIS POST SCROLL PAST IF YOU ARE CONCERNED**********************

Dorko said:

Wait what? Duke and Hawk were probably among the closest to their old storylines.

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Big apologies there. I got Hawk and Falcon mixed up (damn birds). Though the fact that Duke was a "one woman man" did kind of take away from his original style. Again, my mistake.

Kinda thought that was what happened. :ninja:

Shegokigo said:
Dorko said:

The reason for changing the Scarlett/Snake-Eyes love thing is because Snake-Eyes never speaks and we never see his face. It's the same reason he was a background character in the cartoon and was saddled with Jinx and Kamakura with him at all times during Sigma Six.

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Except you know, there is NOTHING between Scarlett and Duke in the film at all, and they put some idiot story with Ripcord instead.

I know, and agree about the Snake-Eyes bit. I liked the Ripcord thing, because it gave them both something to do until they were plot relevant. I read the novelization and while it played up the initial bit in the G.I. Joe hovercraft where Snake-Eyes kinda checks on Scarlett, there really wasn't anything there either (so nothing major cut out). A nod would have been nice.

Shegokigo said:
Perhaps I was raging a bit at the sheer destruction of the Baroness character I overlooked the "good" reboot of Destro, I really liked what they did with him on reflection. Cobra Commander on the other hand, it's not so much they went for a different route with the source material, but WHAT they made him "come from" that really threw me, that and the horrible mask/thing he has on his face towards the end.

While it has grown on me (I see the doll sized CC practically every time I work), I agree that the mask was a little odd. Since he has two perfectly good battle armor masks to draw from already. I'd also like to find out how Rex went from basically good military science geek to be-monocled super villain after seeing one video on a guy's computer. That...was odd.

Shegokigo said:
Thanks for putting some light on the issues though Dorko. Much appreciated.

Ah, er, you're welcome. :thumbsup:

Though, full disclosure, I was born in 1990. I didn't grow up on G.I. Joe, not even G.I. Joe Extreme. I sought out all this geeky knowledge when I was teenager.

Aug 9, 2009#95

Shawn

Dorko said:
Shegokigo said:

*********************SPOILERS IN THIS POST SCROLL PAST IF YOU ARE CONCERNED**********************

Dorko said:

Wait what? Duke and Hawk were probably among the closest to their old storylines.

Click to expand...

Big apologies there. I got Hawk and Falcon mixed up (damn birds). Though the fact that Duke was a "one woman man" did kind of take away from his original style. Again, my mistake.

Click to expand...

Kinda thought that was what happened.

Shegokigo said:

Dorko said:

The reason for changing the Scarlett/Snake-Eyes love thing is because Snake-Eyes never speaks and we never see his face. It's the same reason he was a background character in the cartoon and was saddled with Jinx and Kamakura with him at all times during Sigma Six.

Click to expand...

Except you know, there is NOTHING between Scarlett and Duke in the film at all, and they put some idiot story with Ripcord instead.

Click to expand...

I know, and agree about the Snake-Eyes bit. I liked the Ripcord thing, because it gave them both something to do until they were plot relevant. I read the novelization and while it played up the initial bit in the G.I. Joe hovercraft where he kinda checks on her, there really wasn't anything there either (so nothing major cut out). A nod would have been nice.

Shegokigo said:

Perhaps I was raging a bit at the sheer destruction of the Baroness character I overlooked the "good" reboot of Destro, I really liked what they did with him on reflection. Cobra Commander on the other hand, it's not so much they went for a different route with the source material, but WHAT they made him "come from" that really threw me, that and the horrible mask/thing he has on his face towards the end.

Click to expand...

While it has grown on me (I see the doll sized CC practically every time I work), I agree that the mask was a little odd. Since he has two perfectly good battle armor masks to draw from already. I'd also like to find out how Rex went from basically good military science geek to be-monocled super villain after seeing one video on a guy's computer. That...was odd.

Shegokigo said:

Thanks for putting some light on the issues though Dorko. Much appreciated.

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Ah, er, you're welcome.

An argument won on the internet? It's a landmark moment. I think this thread deserves a place in the Hall of Fame.

Aug 9, 2009#96

Shegokigo

There was an argument won?

Aug 9, 2009#97

Shawn

Shegokigo said:
There was an argument won?

An exaggeration. I just don't read stuff along the lines of "You know, I didn't look at it that way" very often.

Aug 10, 2009#98

Frankie Williamson

Shegokigo said:
Biggest diff was the Baroness? Are you kidding me? Did anyone here even READ the comics or watch the show?

I could fill paragraphs with how they screwed up the characters.

This would have been an enjoyable action movie if it had a different title and the characters had different names, but if you're going to call it GI Joe, was it so hard to stick with the original characters the way THEY WERE!?!

The Baroness from the cartoon and from the old Marvel comic weren't even that much alike. The Baroness from the newer comics is nothing like the Baroness from the older comics.

Different writers write different things.

Aug 10, 2009#99

Shawn

Frankie said:
Shegokigo said:

Biggest diff was the Baroness? Are you kidding me? Did anyone here even READ the comics or watch the show?

I could fill paragraphs with how they screwed up the characters.

This would have been an enjoyable action movie if it had a different title and the characters had different names, but if you're going to call it GI Joe, was it so hard to stick with the original characters the way THEY WERE!?!

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The Baroness from the cartoon and from the old Marvel comic weren't even that much alike. The Baroness from the newer comics is nothing like the Baroness from the older comics.

Different writers write different things.

Either way... she's hotter as a blonde.

Aug 10, 2009#100

Shegokigo

Frankie said:
The Baroness from the cartoon and from the old Marvel comic weren't even that much alike. The Baroness from the newer comics is nothing like the Baroness from the older comics.

Different writers write different things.

Yet neither one made her out to be a pansy little whipping girl with no backbone like in the film.

Aug 10, 2009#101

Frankie Williamson

No one got the short end of the stick in the movie harder than Covergirl.

-- Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:40 am --

Shegokigo said:
If it was the toys, they would have used different character names I'm sure. Instead they went with the ones most popularized by the comics and TV show.

For the bad guys they used the most recognizable ones but for the good guys? Hardly.

Heavy Duty instead of Gung Ho or Roadblock (two more of the waaaaay more often used heavy hitter guys). Ripcord was barely a tertiary character. I can't even remember who the hell the french guy was supposed to be (Breaker?). Other than Duke, Scarlet and Snake Eyes they went with second string characters from the cartoon and or comics.

Aug 10, 2009#102

Shannow

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Aug 10, 2009#103

The Lovely Boehner

I cannot believe the detail of discussion about the G.I. Joe cartoon in here. All I remember from the cartoon is flashing lights and colors and explosions.

Aug 10, 2009#104

Frankie Williamson

I was an obsessed G.I.Joe and Transformers fan as a kid. I still retain most of that knowledge.

Anyways, in my opinion, the movie really could not have delivered more on what the premise was. It was a 2 hour G.I.Joe episode right down to the "WE SHALL MEET AGAIN!" speech at the end. Other than changing some character's ethnicities and backgrounds and having the Baroness be a completely different character it was G.I.Joe.

That said it's a fucking terrible movie. Fucking awesomely terrible movie. If the Transformers movies had had the treatment that G.I.Joe had I probably would have liked them.

Aug 10, 2009#105

Shegokigo

You mean, had the Transformers actually been the centric part of the movie? Yeah I'd agree. The action scenes in GI Joe were also much easier to follow and figure out what the hell was going on.

Simply put, as I stated previously. It delivered on the action and while not quite "raping my childhood" it did kind of "feel them up" on the bus.

Aug 10, 2009#106

Frankie Williamson

Heh, I just watched the first Transformers movie with Rifftrax. I had forgotten how fucking awesome the first scene with the helicopter dude fucking obliterating the military base was. Comparing that to how anemic they are at the end of the movie and how utterly pathetic decepticons are in the second movie just leads me to believe that no one actually read the script.

Aug 10, 2009#107

Shegokigo

There was a script? :rofl:

Aug 10, 2009#108

Norris

Frankie said:
No one got the short end of the stick in the movie harder than Covergirl.

Agreed. They never even said her damned name in the movie before they killed her. In the novelization, there was a brief scene where Hawk & Cover Girl encounter Destro & Zartan in the hallway outside of the presentation at the start of the movie. Hawk is trying to get his unit put on the security detail, but Destro shuts him down. Meanwhile, Zartan starts mimicking Cover Girl's facial expressions, get called on it, and apologizes for it being a force of habit. After they leave, Hawk says he got a bad vibe off of Destro and Cover Girl says she got that vibe from both of them. And that is literally all she does before her death scene.

Frankie said:
Heavy Duty instead of Gung Ho or Roadblock (two more of the waaaaay more often used heavy hitter guys). Ripcord was barely a tertiary character. I can't even remember who the * the french guy was supposed to be (Breaker?). Other than Duke, Scarlet and Snake Eyes they went with second string characters from the cartoon and or comics.

Yeah, that was Breaker. And they haven't used Roadblock in a looong time. They keep making figures of him, but Heavy Duty took his place in the animated DTVs, Sigma Six, and now the movie. I wonder why.

Charlie Dont Surf said:
I cannot believe the detail of discussion about the G.I. Joe cartoon in here. All I remember from the cartoon is flashing lights and colors and explosions.

Actually, most of this discussion is coming from the comic books. The G.I. Joe comic book universe lasted twenty (non-consecutive) years and 235 issues (not including the various and sundry mini-series, side-series, and one-shots).

Aug 10, 2009#109

Frankie Williamson

They showed bits of that scene you're talking about in the trailer.

Aug 10, 2009#110

The Lovely Boehner

I had no idea G.I. Joe comics existed and I would wager no one involved with this movie did either.

Aug 10, 2009#111

Shawn

Charlie Dont Surf said:
I had no idea G.I. Joe comics existed and I would wager no one involved with this movie did either.

You'd probably be wrong.

Aug 10, 2009#112

JCM

Shawnacy said:
Charlie Dont Surf said:

I had no idea G.I. Joe comics existed and I would wager no one involved with this movie did either.

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You'd probably be wrong.

AYou are right, and Charlie as usual, wrong.

The movie tailer debuted in a comics convention.
The GIJOE series itself was created by Marvel and Larry Hama, and debuted in a comic BEFORE the cartoon.
Heck, the first thing the director did was to read the comic series-

the director said:
Stephen Sommers: They came to me a couple of times saying, \"Paramount would like for you to consider G.I. Joe.\" I was like, I don't really have an idea for an army man movie, because that was what I grew up with – the 12\" doll. In the early '80s I went to university in Spain and hung out in Eurpoe, and somehow missed the whole [phenomenon]; I never read the comic book, so I didn't really know about this version. So I started reading the comic books and went to Pawtucket where Hasbro is based and saw all of the toys, and got really excited about what a cool, visual world this was. Then I read the comic books, and they made 300 cartoons and comic books and they never killed anybody; they kept evolving the characters and evolving the characters. In fact, in the first draft of the script, the first 45 pages are all back story. The studio was like, what are you doing? So that was what initially got me excited – how visual it was and there's all of these great characters that were handed to me. So then I sat down with Larry Hama, who created all of this G.I. Joe thing, and there's a group of guys and girls at the Hasbro factory who are the keepers of the flame, and they just kind of got it.

More excerpts

the director said:
Sommers: Mainly we stick to the comic books. There's a lot of people that don't know anything about G.I. Joe and they say, how did you make a movie based on a toy? And I go, well, it's actually based on a great comic book – one of the most popular comic books of the 1980s. So if we get to do [another] ...even when I was doing the Mummy movies, I would do tons of research, and not to sound like a star or anything, but you do it so that you get all kinds of creative ideas. So when I read the comic books, I've got tons of notes and ideas as I go along because as I read them, I come up with my own ideas, and at the same time, there's a lot of great ideas in the comic books.

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/08/06/i ... n-sommers/

So of course a series that started with a comic, took most of its stories from the comics which has two succesfull runs up to 155 issues, and had a few toylines in the 90s based solely on the comic, would be used as reference for a movie about it.

Charlie said:
I cannot believe the detail of discussion about the G.I. Joe cartoon in here. All I remember from the cartoon is flashing lights and colors and explosions.

All I remember from philosophy class was that the teacher hhuge tits. So what´s your point?

Aug 10, 2009#113

The Lovely Boehner

that was mainly a jab at how they changed nearly everything about every character's background, nationality, and personality in the movie

Aug 10, 2009#114

Norris

Suuuuuure it was.

And they only made significant changes to the back-stories of two main character. Breaker, Ripcord, and Heavy Duty have never been much more than bit players (and the last one is only ever used as a Jonas Quinn of Roadblock),

Aug 10, 2009#115

The Lovely Boehner

Dorko said:
Suuuuuure it was.

And they only made significant changes to the back-stories of two main character. Breaker, Ripcord, and Heavy Duty have never been much more than bit players (and the last one is only ever used as a Jonas Quinn of Roadblock),

in my defense I remember nothing of the show (or comic) and haven't seen the movie so I don't know why I'm posting in this threaaaaaaaaaaad

Aug 10, 2009#116

Shannow

Going to see it tongiht...after copius amounts of happy hour drinks at the bar!

Aug 10, 2009#117

Frankie Williamson

Hey, one more thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt was rad. If that was him providing the voice, he was double rad. That was clearly someone enjoying being in a fucking awful movie every scene he was in.

Aug 10, 2009#118

Gusto

Frankie said:
Hey, one more thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt was rad. If that was him providing the voice, he was double rad. That was clearly someone enjoying being in a fucking awful movie every scene he was in.

This is true. Very awesome Cobra Commander.

Aug 10, 2009#119

Espy

Frankie said:
Hey, one more thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt was rad. If that was him providing the voice, he was double rad. That was clearly someone enjoying being in a smurfing awful movie every scene he was in.

That's why I want to see it. I'm waiting for the Blu-Ray though.

Aug 11, 2009#120

@Li3n

Frankie said:
Hey, one more thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt was rad. If that was him providing the voice, he was double rad. That was clearly someone enjoying being in a fucking awful movie every scene he was in.

And it's official, i'm going to see it...

Aug 11, 2009#121

Frankie Williamson

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076041 ... of-g-i-joe

And Funny or Die wins once again.

How the fuck do people manage this? Julianne Moore, Billy Crudup, Zack Galifinakis, Vinny Jones, Joey Kern, Henry Rollins, Alan Tudyk, Chuck Liddel and even fucking Sgt. Slaughter.

Aug 11, 2009#122

figmentPez

Aug 11, 2009#123

Shegokigo

Sienna Miller was a horrible choice for Baroness, wasn't even attractive as "her".

Aug 11, 2009#124

Chibibar

Shegokigo said:
Sienna Miller was a horrible choice for Baroness, wasn't even attractive as "her".

the twist in the movie I didn't like, but she does look good in black

Aug 11, 2009#125

Shegokigo

No, she didn't. Her legs were as thin as her arms. Her cleavage was barely pressed together by tape/bra/whoknowswhat, she couldn't pull off brunette to save her life and there wasn't an OUNCE of "evil" in her presence at all. It was appauling.

Aug 11, 2009#126

Gusto

Aria Giovanni for Baroness.

Aug 11, 2009#127

A

AngelofBitterness

Frankie said:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076041c13b/the-ballad-of-g-i-joe

And Funny or Die wins once again.

How the smurf do people manage this? Julianne Moore, Billy Crudup, Zack Galifinakis, Vinny Jones, Joey Kern, Henry Rollins, Alan Tudyk, Chuck Liddel and even smurfing Sgt. Slaughter.

Brilliant clip. Too bad I can't show anyone here at work since they're too dull to ever care or have cared for GI Joe.

Aug 13, 2009#128

SpecialKO

Frankie said:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076041c13b/the-ballad-of-g-i-joe

And Funny or Die wins once again.

How the smurf do people manage this? Julianne Moore, Billy Crudup, Zack Galifinakis, Vinny Jones, Joey Kern, Henry Rollins, Alan Tudyk, Chuck Liddel and even smurfing Sgt. Slaughter.

That's totally frakkin' great.

Aug 13, 2009#129

Batdan

Gusto said:
Frankie said:

Hey, one more thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt was rad. If that was him providing the voice, he was double rad. That was clearly someone enjoying being in a fucking awful movie every scene he was in.

Click to expand...

This is true. Very awesome Cobra Commander.

I didn't like the mask in the end though. I wish they had gone for the chrome helmet instead.

Aug 13, 2009#130

Shannow

I loved the movie. So over the top and bad, it was perfect. Bad acting, corny dialogue, horrible writing, bad cgi...it was like watching a long cartoon. Which was exactly what it needed to be.

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