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So, the wife just walked in and handed me P&P&Z. However, I have never read Pride & Prejudice. Should I read Pride & Prejudice before adding Zombies to the mix, or will it even matter?

I've never read the original Pride and Prejudice but I did read P+P+Z, and honestly, I can't imagine how it would even work without zombies, ninjas and kung fu.

elph said:

So, the wife just walked in and handed me P&P&Z. However, I have never read Pride & Prejudice. Should I read Pride & Prejudice before adding Zombies to the mix, or will it even matter?

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I've read both and you don't need to read the first before reading the second. In fact, Pride & Prejudice bored the crap out of me when I first read it. PPZ adds just the right amount of spice, in the form of zombies.

Enjoy!

Meraede said:

elph said:

So, the wife just walked in and handed me P&P&Z. However, I have never read Pride & Prejudice. Should I read Pride & Prejudice before adding Zombies to the mix, or will it even matter?

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I've read both and you don't need to read the first before reading the second. In fact, Pride & Prejudice bored the crap out of me when I first read it. PPZ adds just the right amount of spice, in the form of zombies.

Enjoy!

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Yeah, the wife was talking about reading other Jane Austin books and how she was bored through out, and pretty much forced herself to read through them because they were 'classics'.

That's good then. At least I won't be completely lost when I start to read it.

Pride and Prejudice is a terrible book. We still make students read it though.

I wish I could say this thread surprised me, but alas.

Kissinger said:

I wish I could say this thread surprised me, but alas.

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You mean the fact that it's, like the bajillionth thread about this book?

I think threads about this book are the new "francis' virginity"

I think it's tied with GI Joe for the new "Francis virginity".

Gi Joe? Those threads are new, dude.... the threads about this book have been around literally since the very first days of Halforum.

Calleja
I'll start replying like that to your billionth topic about the Beatles or your love life. It can be another halforum meme. "Francis virginity!"

ThatNickGuy
The same goes for your emo rants and topics about being published or not. "YOOO JOE! Francis Virginity!!"

Really guys, are you seriously so bored that you come into a thread just to bash it for being posted for the billionth time, or how it 'doesn't surprise' you? It's a causal chat forum.

It's so easy to ignore threads on a message board, but it seems you all fail at that. Just... don't... click... And it even suits the purpose to let the thread die. If you don't reply, it doesn't encourage others to reply (either on, or off topic) and the thread dies off. The first 2 replies answered my question, and the rest just added to the asshattery that you guys so often say you find annoying.

Really, it's not that often that I go off like this and actually post it because I hardly see the point, but it's just getting really annoying lately.

Dude, overreact much?

Hey, I was about to say this must be the twelfth thread on this, but apparently that's a touchy subject.

Bowielee said:

Dude, overreact much?

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Dude, read a full post much?

elph said:

Really, it's not that often that I go off like this and actually post it because I hardly see the point, but it's just getting really annoying lately.

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elph said:

Bowielee said:

Dude, overreact much?

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Dude, read a full post much?

elph said:

Really, it's not that often that I go off like this and actually post it because I hardly see the point, but it's just getting really annoying lately.

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Wow... just ... wow...

:aaahhh:

Take a pill.

Bowielee said:

elph said:

Bowielee said:

Dude, overreact much?

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Dude, read a full post much?

elph said:

Really, it's not that often that I go off like this and actually post it because I hardly see the point, but it's just getting really annoying lately.

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Wow... just ... wow...

:aaahhh:

Take a pill.

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Just.... stop.... clicking.

It's easy. Well, maybe for some and not for others.

Wow, elph. Thanks.

And congratualtions. You're the winner of a brand spanking new foe'ing.

Ass.

elph... go get laid or something.

Enough. Everyone take a deep breath and get over it. Those who don't want to be in this thread, leave, and elph, I understand not wanting to be picked on, but there was no call for that overreaction at all. I'm not saying don't talk about the book. I haven't been here so I don't know if there's a recent P+P+Z thread that you should have found before starting a new thread. If I find one, I'll bring em together for convenience's sake. If not, there's really no call for criticism of the thread either.

If this thread is as worthless/overdone as people say, it will naturally drift down. So calm down and let nature take its course the way it always does.

Jesus.

Cajungal said:

Enough. Everyone take a deep breath and get over it. Those who don't want to be in this thread, leave, and elph, I understand not wanting to be picked on, but there was no call for that overreaction at all. I'm not saying don't talk about the book. I haven't been here so I don't know if there's a recent P+P+Z thread that you should have found before starting a new thread. If I find one, I'll bring em together for convenience's sake. If not, there's really no call for criticism of the thread either.

If this thread is as worthless/overdone as people say, it will naturally drift down. So calm down and let nature take its course the way it always does.

Jesus.

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Wow, I hope you guys are proud of yourselves. Things got so bad that Jesus used CG's account just to tell you all to calm down.

LOL.

That amused me so much I used a *shudder* internet acronym.

Damnit, I hate when dieties hack my account.

who even said this thread annoyed me? I found it amusing, even, in a social commentary kind of way. I was just agreeing with bowie and making an off hand comment. I'm aware that most of the threads about PPZ must be wiped by now, with the auto-pruning, I wasn't saying I "didn't agree" with the thread existing or me "not wanting it".

I stand by my last post, though.

CG is clearly not the type you want to cross?

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CG is clearly not the type you want to cross?

ThatNickGuy said:

CG is clearly not the type you want to cross?

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CG is clearly not the type you want to cross?

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depends on the context.

you just don't want to deal with her pride or her prejudices.

And to be honest, Calleja, that's what I assumed of both of you. I figured people were just being goofy about it. If everyone who got poked fun at for a thread got really upset about it, we'd all be unhappy people. I don't know elph as well, so maybe I'm misjudging his tone. Either way, this is just another one of those things that will blow over.

I was/am quite calm about it all. Overrated? Maybe a little, but so were some of the other replies. Believe me, the day that internet asshattery makes me really rage, is the day I bring Arizona Bay to reality.

Besides, it's a pet peve of mine when people complain about the exsistence of something ignoring the fact that the complaining continues it's exsistence. It's like the Blizzard forums.

There were no other threads about this book. I looked before posting (unlike some of those that replied, I assume). Also, HalfPixel is dead, so it's not like I could have looked back on that to see the discussion there.


Oh, and Nick, if you really have foe'd me and manage to resist the urge to click to see my posts. At least there's 1 fewer person out there that'll derail my threads.

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Either way, this is just another one of those things that will blow over.

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forum drama blows over and over.

elph said:

I was/am quite calm about it all. Overrated? Maybe a little, but so were some of the other replies. Believe me, the day that internet asshattery makes me really rage, is the day I bring Arizona Bay to reality.

Besides, it's a pet peve of mine when people complain about the exsistence of something ignoring the fact that the complaining continues it's exsistence. It's like the Blizzard forums.

There were no other threads about this book. I looked before posting (unlike some of those that replied, I assume). Also, HalfPixel is dead, so it's not like I could have looked back on that to see the discussion there.


Oh, and Nick, if you really have foe'd me and manage to resist the urge to click to see my posts. At least there's 1 fewer person out there that'll derail my threads.

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first... no one complained.

second.. if it really bothers you that people derail "your thread", what the hell are you doing in halforum?

third... who the fuck said anything about halfpixel?

To be fair to him, I totally also got a 'super annoyed' vibe from more than a few posters talking about how often this comes up.

To be fair to me, I'm suffering insomnia and haven't slept well the last ever. I mean week.

Calleja said:

first... no one complained.

second.. if it really bothers you that people derail "your thread", what the hell are you doing in halforum?

third... who the fuck said anything about halfpixel?

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first - I tend to take the 'wow, I haven't read this but a <insane number here> times before' as "ugh, not this again" Especially when tied to things like the annoyances of how often Francis' virginity was brought up.

second - derailment isn't really the annoyances to me, that's a fact of life around here and I know that. It's pretty much tied to the first one. If someone is comlpaining about a thread's exsistence coming up again for the 'bajillionth' time, it just makes more sense to ignore it and let it die off.

third ... I mentioned Halfpixel... (you mentioned Halforum)... because I remembered seeing a thread on the book during that time there. That's what made me come here to look and see if there was anything commentary about the value of reading P&P before reading &Z.

Yes, I know the book has been mentioned a lot. Oh well. Shucky darn. I mentioned it again. But the "old news is old" type responces are just moronic, they add even less to a conversation then derailment.

Oh.. and to your 'get laid' comment... didn't you read the very first line... "my wife..." been together for 10 years with 2 kids.. getting laid is just as much of a fantasy for me as some of the others around here.

Did a quick search myself and it looks like Elph was right, so I'll be more than happy to apologize and be stood corrected. It's kinda like when I did a search for my old Spectacular Spider-Man thread but only found someone else's more recent thread.

That said, Elph, I still think bringing up my ONE thread about depression (during a really low and emotionally volitile time when I wasn't thinking straight) or my getting published (which I'm damn proud of, so fuck you) is still ridiculously overreacting.

elph said:

first - I tend to take the 'wow, I haven't read this but a <insane number here> times before' as "ugh, not this again" Especially when tied to things like the annoyances of how often Francis' virginity was brought up.

second - derailment isn't really the annoyances to me, that's a fact of life around here and I know that. It's pretty much tied to the first one. If someone is comlpaining about a thread's exsistence coming up again for the 'bajillionth' time, it just makes more sense to ignore it and let it die off.

third ... I mentioned Halfpixel... (you mentioned Halforum)... because I remembered seeing a thread on the book during that time there. That's what made me come here to look and see if there was anything commentary about the value of reading P&P before reading &Z.

Yes, I know the book has been mentioned a lot. Oh well. Shucky darn. I mentioned it again. But the "old news is old" type responces are just moronic, they add even less to a conversation then derailment.

Oh.. and to your 'get laid' comment... didn't you read the very first line... "my wife..." been together for 10 years with 2 kids.. getting laid is just as much of a fantasy for me as some of the others around here.

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who the fuck said "old news is old"?

See? that's your problem right there... you assumed. And you know what that makes you.

I assure you neither bowie nor nick nor I were "annoyed" or "complaining". You, on the other hand, went for personal attacks. I don't care about what you said about me... oh, so original, I talk about Beatles and sex!.... but going after Nick like that was a douchey thing to do. So that's what you are to me now. A douche toad.

An over reacting, probably undersexed, bitter, douche toad.

elph said:

getting laid is just as much of a fantasy for me

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ThatNickGuy said:

Elph... fuck you

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Sounds like this little misunderstanding could turn out making both of you happy, eh?



-Adam

Well, I didn't like that.

Also, @ developments in this thread: :blue:

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Did a quick search myself and it looks like Elph was right, so I'll be more than happy to apologize and be stood corrected. It's kinda like when I did a search for my old Spectacular Spider-Man thread but only found someone else's more recent thread.

That said, Elph, I still think bringing up my ONE thread about depression (during a really low and emotionally volitile time when I wasn't thinking straight) or my getting published (which I'm damn proud of, so fuck you) is still ridiculously overreacting.

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The forum pruning has it's downsides. We all assume people will search because we can swear we just saw that topic the other day. Either way, what does it matter? So someone's talking about something again. It may be the 1st time, it may be the 1,000,000th time, or it may even really be the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time you've seen it. The idea of the 'old news is old' is just insulting to the poster. It gives nothing to the conversation and does nothing but try to make the person saying 'old news is old' some form of superiority over the other. It's "HAHA I knew that before you! You loser!".

A more constructive thing would be "Hey, I'm not sure if you've searched and didn't find it, but check this out..." and post a link, or just simply have the conversation again.

How many times have any of you sat around with your friends and had that same old conversation about that 'one time'. Do you turn to your friends and say "my god man.. old news is old... we get it, you're married. We were there. You invited us! I was your best man!"


I had a thought on the pruning set up. It's a bit interesting that we will lock and move threads we don't care to continue for one reason or another (page limits / flame wars / whatever). But there are many topics we have that just fade away to be relived again, simply because it was lost to keep things under control. It's understandable for cleaner management an such, but do the activites of the forum drag the host so bad that maybe the pruning can be extended to a higher number? Maybe 2,000 posts instead of 1,000?


As for the other thing, I mentioned 'emo rants'. I left it pretty vague. I didn't say anything about the posts involved. I didn't drag anything up of specifics. I didn't have to. Really, the thread that came to mind when typing that was about your moving situation because of your cat, which was more recent. Not the other one.

And you foe'ing me... Go for it. It really won't bother me, but if it makes you feel better, great! However, I don't think you could foe someone and still not click to see what they're saying. Because they could be saying something you're interested in (it's my problem too, that's why I learn to self-censor).

Isn't it just as non-constructive to flip out and personally attack people who posted in your thread?

that was his self-censoring, duh

Bowielee said:

Isn't it just as non-constructive to flip out and personally attack people who posted in your thread?

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Real Ultimate Power said:

The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.

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So obviously these are ninjas... ninjai.... ninjii...?

Well, whatever. They are born to flip out and kill people, so it only makes sense.

Real Ultimate Power said:

It's an easy choice, if you ask me.

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QFT.

-Adam

What stieny is doing, trying to make us all laugh and deactivate the hostilities? That's usually what I try with my Bruce and Scarlett pics.... y'know, when I'm not one of the contributing hostiles.

Not that they ever work as well as stienman's. Message received buddy, message received.

elph said:

How many times have any of you sat around with your friends and had that same old conversation about that 'one time'. Do you turn to your friends and say "my god man.. old news is old... we get it, you're married. We were there. You invited us! I was your best man!"

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That sounds pretty common to me, actually.

Calleja said:

What stieny is doing, trying to make us all laugh and deactivate the hostilities? That's usually what I try with my Bruce and Scarlett pics.... y'know, when I'm not one of the contributing hostiles.

Not that they ever work as well as stienman's. Message received buddy, message received.

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I'm not (nor was I) even hostile. Believe me, this is far from hostile for me.

Calleja said:

What stieny is doing, trying to make us all laugh and deactivate the hostilities? That's usually what I try with my Bruce and Scarlett pics.... y'know, when I'm not one of the contributing hostiles.

Not that they ever work as well as stienman's. Message received buddy, message received.

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Stienman is like my favorite poster. I just want to rub my face on his stomach.

And do a raspberry on it?

I was thinking more of purring contentedly.

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I'm not (nor was I) even hostile. Believe me, this is far from hostile for me.

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Curiosity got the better of me. Dude, what you said hurt, all right? Now, here's the thing. I apologized for jumping in on the multiple P&P&Z threads (which had existed but are now gone from the search or the forum). Yet, you continued to attack.

Why are so very many people on this forum unwilling to just say they're sorry?

I'm sorry TNG.

I think....I think.....I THINK I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU!

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elph said:

I'm not (nor was I) even hostile. Believe me, this is far from hostile for me.

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Curiosity got the better of me. Dude, what you said hurt, all right? Now, here's the thing. I apologized for jumping in on the multiple P&P&Z threads (which had existed but are now gone from the search or the forum). Yet, you continued to attack.

Why are so very few people on this forum unwilling to just say they're sorry?

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I apologize for what I said hurt you. It wasn't my intent. Sting, maybe, in the sense of hopefully bringing up the thought of 'well, shit, I do tend to say the same thing over and over, maybe I shouldn't send this one through'.

My intent was to bring point of 'redundant topics' that people post and how I personally never step in on them and say anything that can be (miss)understood as 'oh no, not this again' or 'old news is old'. Which is how I (and at least 1 other) read those responces. I don't do it to you, or anyone else, and I expect to be treated as I treat others. So yeah, I expect a bit of backlash, but that's the way it works.

old overreaction is old

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old overreaction is old

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old assumption is old

Old flappy hooties are old.

Wait, I'm not doing it right, am I?

Calleja said:

old overreaction is old

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old assumption is old

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old gif is old

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old gif is old

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Okay, I laughed at that one.

This thread did NOT contain what I expected. I expect awesome and you give me this? THIS?
:humph:

Espy said:

This thread did NOT contain what I expected. I expect awesome and you give me this? THIS?
:humph:

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Well, it's still here. You can help push it in the direction of awesome.

Espy said:

This thread did NOT contain what I expected. I expect awesome and you give me this? THIS?
:humph:

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I think this thread has it's own brand of awesome.

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I liked both of those.

The first one said to me. "What the fuck... I'm just going to back out of here"
The second one says "Hmmm... well... looks clear now. I'm goin in."

elph said:

Espy said:

This thread did NOT contain what I expected. I expect awesome and you give me this? THIS?
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Well, it's still here. You can help push it in the direction of awesome.

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Fair enough.

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I liked both of those.

The first one said to me. "What the fuck... I'm just going to back out of here"
The second one says "Hmmm... well... looks clear now. I'm goin in."

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Someone GETS me!

And the forum cycle continues...

This thread needs MORE JUICE!

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Why the hell do none of you like Pride and Prejudice? It's a classic, and I think it's probably Austen's best novel.

I like zombies as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure I can bring myself to read P&P&Z. Adaptations of classic literature which have been messed around with create a pervading sense of wrongness for me when I read/watch them.

Gill Kaiser said:

Why the hell do none of you like Pride and Prejudice? It's a classic, and I think it's probably Austen's best novel.

I like zombies as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure I can bring myself to read P&P&Z. Adaptations of classic literature which have been messed around with create a pervading sense of wrongness for me when I read/watch them.

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Woot! Back on topic.

See, part of my worry was that they would have some inside references that would be completely confusing if I hadn't read the original. I'm sure there will be some to an extent, it's hard to escape completely, but I was afraid it was more of a companion book. That doesn't seem to be the case.

As for the twist, I don't mind that so much. I've read a number of Arthurian legend books and they are all different from this person or that peron's point of view, that I doubt I'd be bothered by things 'straying' from the original. I also like a lot of cover songs done in odd ways (IE: Devo doing NIN - Head like a hole, or Easy Star All Stars doing a complete Reggae verson of The Dark Side of the Moon), but then I've listened to the originals so much that a new twist can be appreciated.