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RIAA, "DRM is dead."
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elph
elph
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Chibibar
Chibibar
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Cat
Cat
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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Chibibar
Chibibar
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Cat
Cat
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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Cat
Cat
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JCM
JCM
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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elph
elph
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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Chibibar
Yea. my fault to derail
usually when I DRM, I usually associate to games first than music.
Chibibar
elph said:
Yea. my fault to derail
usually when I DRM, I usually associate to games first than music.
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
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@Li3n
@Li3n
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JCM
JCM
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@Li3n
@Li3n
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
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JCM
JCM
Several.
Example, GTAIV has securom, as well as many other Steam games-
http://reclaimyourgame.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=11
However Steam rocks in telling you which other DRM is there besides steam-
And yes, again STEAM in itself is DRM. You must activate the game online (and in the case of popular games like Half Life 2 at launch, spend days waiting for activation servers to come back online to play), and it checks if you have a legit copy of all your games everytime you turn it on.
Reasonable to pussies who bend over and do whatever companies say, really, but sadly thats the way the future of gaming DRM is going, and there´s a crack avaliable within launch day, anyway, so both the pussies and those who dont feel like looking for an internet connection just to play a fucking game alone, will be happy.
Not that I hate Steam, its pretty reasonable, no Spyware (for EA, Valve games), after initial activation, you dont need to chonnect again, no limits to computers a game can be installed (although just one can play the game online at a time, but thats fair enough).
Example, GTAIV has securom, as well as many other Steam games-
http://reclaimyourgame.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=11
However Steam rocks in telling you which other DRM is there besides steam-
And yes, again STEAM in itself is DRM. You must activate the game online (and in the case of popular games like Half Life 2 at launch, spend days waiting for activation servers to come back online to play), and it checks if you have a legit copy of all your games everytime you turn it on.
Of course its reasonable to make someone connect online, fuck yu if you are travelling and you buy a few games to play aloneChazwozel said:
Reasonable to pussies who bend over and do whatever companies say, really, but sadly thats the way the future of gaming DRM is going, and there´s a crack avaliable within launch day, anyway, so both the pussies and those who dont feel like looking for an internet connection just to play a fucking game alone, will be happy.
Not that I hate Steam, its pretty reasonable, no Spyware (for EA, Valve games), after initial activation, you dont need to chonnect again, no limits to computers a game can be installed (although just one can play the game online at a time, but thats fair enough).
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Dunno about you, but everywhere I travel offers me very convienent internet connection. :slywink: Unless I way to play in the middle of the rainforest..... DAMN! :tongue:JCM said:
Must suck for those who pirate games more than they purchase them huh?JCM said:
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JCM
Funnily, after installing Half-Life 2 and cracking it, I was playing it within 4 hours of purchasing it, while my idiot pussy mates were waiting for 2 days for the Half Life 2 activation servers to get back online during the launch period debacle.
:smug:
JCM
Or those who arent pussies and need to ask for permission to play a game they paid for, but hey, thats how 90% of the world is.Shegokigo said:Must suck for those who pirate games more than they purchase them huh?JCM said:
Funnily, after installing Half-Life 2 and cracking it, I was playing it within 4 hours of purchasing it, while my idiot pussy mates were waiting for 2 days for the Half Life 2 activation servers to get back online during the launch period debacle.
:smug:
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Oh you're totally right, pirates have way more claim to a game than someone who paid for it. :eyeroll:JCM said:
Sad situation, glad you totally understand that some companies have issues with launch days.JCM said:
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figmentPez
figmentPez
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JCM
JCM
Of course everywhere in the world there´s an internet connection just at the next street corner.
Heck, to tell the truth, cracked games run better and with no hassle (specially SECUROM titles that experience performance burps), and paying customers have to chose to either watse their time with slowed performance and having to activate stuff, or do like the pirates and crack their game copy. Heck, Morrowind and Oblivion had a huge increase in performance.
Awaiting more "BUT ONLY PIRATES ARENT PUSSIES!!" strawmen, instead of a good reason on why one must activate online something he just paid for.
NAh, just pussies have more a claim for the vaseline when companies start asking the PAYING customers, to validate something they bought, when pirates get it before launch day, hacked, cracked and working. Dont mind me, since anyone who wont authorise online *must* be a pirate, everyone who does can be a pussy, how about it?Shegokigo said:
Glad the pathetic "PIRATES" excuse is still being used in any debate when someone asks why those who BUY it will have to go thorugh shitloads of troubles, when Half-Life 2 was already avaliable hacked, cracked and working before launch.Shegokigo said:Sad situation, glad you totally understand that some companies have issues with launch days.JCM said:
Heck, to tell the truth, cracked games run better and with no hassle (specially SECUROM titles that experience performance burps), and paying customers have to chose to either watse their time with slowed performance and having to activate stuff, or do like the pirates and crack their game copy. Heck, Morrowind and Oblivion had a huge increase in performance.
Awaiting more "BUT ONLY PIRATES ARENT PUSSIES!!" strawmen, instead of a good reason on why one must activate online something he just paid for.
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
Solution to all your internet travel woes:
And really it's kind of childish to view it as "permission to play" I've had far more beef with the WoW servers being down than Steam being fucked up. You're paying for a game, but you're also paying for online service accompanying the game. The thing you really pay for when you buy a physical copy of the disk is the box and instruction manual. Sometimes that service is down, the UEA that you agree to when you buy the game says this. No one should be bitching about something they agree to before they buy the game.
And really it's kind of childish to view it as "permission to play" I've had far more beef with the WoW servers being down than Steam being fucked up. You're paying for a game, but you're also paying for online service accompanying the game. The thing you really pay for when you buy a physical copy of the disk is the box and instruction manual. Sometimes that service is down, the UEA that you agree to when you buy the game says this. No one should be bitching about something they agree to before they buy the game.
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Bubble181
No offense Chaz, but you're coming off as the dick in the discussion. I play games off line almost exclusively. I don't care for other people in my games, I get enough crap from people as is. I play solely single player, and I'll be damned if I need a net connection for it. I regularly buy games then crack them simply to avoid the need for a net connection. i use my computer quite extensively away from the 'net. Your "solution" works in one country, which isn't really all that useful. I regularly play in three different countries, I don't intend to get internet abonnements for each one; especially since they cost an arm and a leg in two of those three (the brits are lucky and the yanks even more so.)
And, DRM means Digital Rights Management. ANY way in which a publisher tries to limit what you can do with digital stuff you purchased is DRM. Yes, down to CD keys and "what is the 7th word of page 15 of the manual" from the days of yore. Whether or not all DRM is bad is another debate, but claiming these things aren't DRM is simply trying to alter the definition of the word.
Bubble181
Chazwozel said:Solution to all your internet travel woes:
And really it's kind of childish to view it as "permission to play" I've had far more beef with the WoW servers being down than Steam being fucked up. You're paying for a game, but you're also paying for online service accompanying the game. The thing you really pay for when you buy a physical copy of the disk is the box and instruction manual. Sometimes that service is down, the UEA that you agree to when you buy the game says this. No one should be bitching about something they agree to before they buy the game.
No offense Chaz, but you're coming off as the dick in the discussion. I play games off line almost exclusively. I don't care for other people in my games, I get enough crap from people as is. I play solely single player, and I'll be damned if I need a net connection for it. I regularly buy games then crack them simply to avoid the need for a net connection. i use my computer quite extensively away from the 'net. Your "solution" works in one country, which isn't really all that useful. I regularly play in three different countries, I don't intend to get internet abonnements for each one; especially since they cost an arm and a leg in two of those three (the brits are lucky and the yanks even more so.)
And, DRM means Digital Rights Management. ANY way in which a publisher tries to limit what you can do with digital stuff you purchased is DRM. Yes, down to CD keys and "what is the 7th word of page 15 of the manual" from the days of yore. Whether or not all DRM is bad is another debate, but claiming these things aren't DRM is simply trying to alter the definition of the word.
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
I hardly count the Rainforests of Brazil and on a road trip (in the car) as "whenever/wherever".figmentPez said:
You're not fooling anyone JCM. We're well aware of your own self-glorified online antics. Oh, and way to dodge the point proving you wrong in that one.JCM said:
Call it pathetic all you like but the reason is valid and still proving you wrong.JCM said:
Gee, I wonder who's responsible for SECUROM in the first place. :slywink: inb4zomgthecompaniezsuckandthatswhyidoitJCM said:
To prove they purchased it and never have to worry about it again. Duh?JCM said:
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figmentPez
figmentPez
Yeah, money solves a lot of technology problems. However, I don't have the money to spend on a cellular data plan. I could buy a game from GOG for a whole lot cheaper than I could get even a month of service.Chazwozel said:Solution to all your internet travel woes:
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Chazwozel
-- Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:32 pm --
Chazwozel
I'm not trying to claim they're not DRM, I'm just saying that the requirements for the DRM access are not all that steep with Steam. The best option for your situation is to not buy games with "internet access" as a system requirement. I mean no one is forcing you to buy anything right? If I want to buy a rare Peugeot or Fiat in the United States, I'm going to have to pay premium coinage for them, but I don't have to buy them. Same deal with the video games. It's like buying the newest game with insane RAM and CPU requirements and then bitching about it when your 5 year old computer can't run it.Bubble181 said:Chazwozel said:Solution to all your internet travel woes:
And really it's kind of childish to view it as "permission to play" I've had far more beef with the WoW servers being down than Steam being smurfed up. You're paying for a game, but you're also paying for online service accompanying the game. The thing you really pay for when you buy a physical copy of the disk is the box and instruction manual. Sometimes that service is down, the UEA that you agree to when you buy the game says this. No one should be bitching about something they agree to before they buy the game.
No offense Chaz, but you're coming off as the * in the discussion. I play games off line almost exclusively. I don't care for other people in my games, I get enough crap from people as is. I play solely single player, and I'll be damned if I need a net connection for it. I regularly buy games then crack them simply to avoid the need for a net connection. i use my computer quite extensively away from the 'net. Your "solution" works in one country, which isn't really all that useful. I regularly play in three different countries, I don't intend to get internet abonnements for each one; especially since they cost an arm and a leg in two of those three (the brits are lucky and the yanks even more so.)
And, DRM means Digital Rights Management. ANY way in which a publisher tries to limit what you can do with digital stuff you purchased is DRM. Yes, down to CD keys and "what is the 7th word of page 15 of the manual" from the days of yore. Whether or not all DRM is bad is another debate, but claiming these things aren't DRM is simply trying to alter the definition of the word.
-- Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:32 pm --
Ugh... anyone who NEEDS to play video games 24/7 on their laptop on the road needs a cattle prod up the ass anyway. Otherwise use this to deal with travel:figmentPez said:Yeah, money solves a lot of technology problems. However, I don't have the money to spend on a cellular data plan. I could buy a game from GOG for a whole lot cheaper than I could get even a month of service.Chazwozel said:Solution to all your internet travel woes:
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tegid
That, or I'm not getting your point.
tegid
Reading comprehension FAILShegokigo said:Oh you're totally right, pirates have way more claim to a game than someone who paid for it. :eyeroll:JCM said:
Sad situation, glad you totally understand that some companies have issues with launch days.JCM said:
That, or I'm not getting your point.
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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figmentPez
figmentPez
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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JCM
JCM
That´s Chaz´ way, but he does have a valid point, there are internet connections almost everywhere,, so while it seems idiotic for paying customoers to have to go online, its not like its impossible.
Man, its easy proving Shegiko wrong, Shegiko-style.
What are you proving wrong anyway? You said Steam wasnt DRM, I showed you it is.
You questioned 3rd-party DRM, I gave you a list.
I said its dickish to force someone to connect online to start playing a game offline for the first time, and you scream PIRATES!!
Aactivation for single-player offline is useless against piracy, because people who pirate already buy cds/get torrents cracked and working, days before paying customers manage to get their game activated.
What is your point again, besides PIRATES!! and UR WRONG?
I say that its idiotic for people to activate a game online to be able to play single-player, and she calls out PIRATES!!,
When someone says that some people might not have internet avaliable at the time, she screams RAINFORESTS!
When someone notes that some gamers were unable to activate a game, she says UR PIRATE, SERVERS BUSY!!
Are you taking drugs again Shego, or has becoming a pussy asking for permission for a game you paid for made you soft?
Wrong in what? That pirates still get to play, while paying customers get hassled?Shegokigo said:
Hey, its because of ninjas!!
Man, its easy proving Shegiko wrong, Shegiko-style.
What are you proving wrong anyway? You said Steam wasnt DRM, I showed you it is.
You questioned 3rd-party DRM, I gave you a list.
I said its dickish to force someone to connect online to start playing a game offline for the first time, and you scream PIRATES!!
The ones who download games with the latest secuROM crack and play PC games at faster speeds, with no cd-checking or online activations?
Aactivation for single-player offline is useless against piracy, because people who pirate already buy cds/get torrents cracked and working, days before paying customers manage to get their game activated.
What is your point again, besides PIRATES!! and UR WRONG?
I´m still trying to get what she is saying.tegid said:Reading comprehension FAILShegokigo said:Oh you're totally right, pirates have way more claim to a game than someone who paid for it. :eyeroll:JCM said:
Sad situation, glad you totally understand that some companies have issues with launch days.JCM said:
That, or I'm not getting your point.
I say that its idiotic for people to activate a game online to be able to play single-player, and she calls out PIRATES!!,
When someone says that some people might not have internet avaliable at the time, she screams RAINFORESTS!
When someone notes that some gamers were unable to activate a game, she says UR PIRATE, SERVERS BUSY!!
Are you taking drugs again Shego, or has becoming a pussy asking for permission for a game you paid for made you soft?
#39
Shegokigo
If you suddenly have the urge to purchase a game off STEAM (not play, because you can play it offline just fine) and don't have access to internet, I don't know what to tell you
Don't know what you mean by asking for permission. All I've ever done is tell a company, by logging on once and only once, "Hey, I bought your game and it's legit". I also like how you seem to think "pussy" is a derogatory term in any way for me.
Shegokigo
It's easy to tell when you're wrong JCM, you begin quote changing people, it's become a very obvious tactic over the past few years.JCM said:
I said I disagree, it's the company's way of making sure it's a legit copy, nothing wrong with that as long as you're able to play offline from there on out.JCM said:
I wonder what those kind of people are called. Also, my games run faster than I could ever want, maybe those with slower running systems should look into that problem before piracy.JCM said:
Which totally makes it alright? Nice point there.JCM said:
If you don't like the "tag" JCM, don't live the lifestyle.JCM said:
If you suddenly have the urge to purchase a game off STEAM (not play, because you can play it offline just fine) and don't have access to internet, I don't know what to tell you
Don't know what you mean by asking for permission. All I've ever done is tell a company, by logging on once and only once, "Hey, I bought your game and it's legit". I also like how you seem to think "pussy" is a derogatory term in any way for me.
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tegid
tegid
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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figmentPez
figmentPez
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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tegid
tegid
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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Viggs
Viggs
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figmentPez
figmentPez
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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@Li3n
@Li3n
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tegid
tegid
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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@Li3n
@Li3n
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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PatrThom
PatrThom
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@Li3n
@Li3n
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JCM
JCM
lol@ above whine.
My apologies for the late reply, three-day EFL teacher´s seminar.
I said it doesnt stop piracy, and paying customers have more trouble than pirates. Yeah, youve got a PC with enough RAM to make SecuROM and other DRM unoticable, but the point still sticks, sadly, paying customers still need cd-keys, activations, the game cd and whatever else, to play, in the name of stopping piracy. While pirates get to steal and play without all that crap.
I still await for you to show it stops piracy, or has any effect, other than making paying customers jump through more hoops.
-DRM is useless at stopping piracy
-Pirates get to play single players with less problems, and no CD-checks (nor the need for a cd), activations or SECUROM
-Some paying customers have turned to piracy due to excess DRM
-Piracy has only increased.
There´s no use for DRM besides giving corporations more rights over paying customers. But forget posting links;
Shegiko will just ignore the facts, say you are wrong and that you must be a pirate, then @Li3n is gonna whine about how you must have had an overreaction. I still await for Shegiko to show DRM stops piracy, or has any effect, other than making paying customers jump through more hoops.
"UR a pirate!!" in 4...3.... :smug:
My apologies for the late reply, three-day EFL teacher´s seminar.
I love how you say unrelated stuff like "you are wrong because the grass is green" or "you are wrong because you used three paragraphs". My apologies, but thats not a rebuttal.Shegokigo who still hasnt proven DRM works at all said:
I said it doesnt stop piracy, and paying customers have more trouble than pirates. Yeah, youve got a PC with enough RAM to make SecuROM and other DRM unoticable, but the point still sticks, sadly, paying customers still need cd-keys, activations, the game cd and whatever else, to play, in the name of stopping piracy. While pirates get to steal and play without all that crap.
Thanks for proving my point again.Shegokigo who still hasnt proven DRM works at all said:If you don't like the "tag" JCM, don't live the lifestyle.JCM said:I´m still trying to get what she is saying.tegid said:Reading comprehension FAILShegokigo said:Oh you're totally right, pirates have way more claim to a game than someone who paid for it. :eyeroll:
Sad situation, glad you totally understand that some companies have issues with launch days.
That, or I'm not getting your point.
I say that its idiotic for people to activate a game online to be able to play single-player, and she calls out PIRATES!!,
When someone says that some people might not have internet avaliable at the time, she screams RAINFORESTS!
When someone notes that some gamers were unable to activate a game, she says UR PIRATE, SERVERS BUSY!!
Are you taking drugs again Shego, or has becoming a pussy asking for permission for a game you paid for made you soft?
I still await for you to show it stops piracy, or has any effect, other than making paying customers jump through more hoops.
Its common knowledge that-PatrThom said:
-DRM is useless at stopping piracy
-Pirates get to play single players with less problems, and no CD-checks (nor the need for a cd), activations or SECUROM
-Some paying customers have turned to piracy due to excess DRM
-Piracy has only increased.
There´s no use for DRM besides giving corporations more rights over paying customers. But forget posting links;
Shegiko will just ignore the facts, say you are wrong and that you must be a pirate, then @Li3n is gonna whine about how you must have had an overreaction. I still await for Shegiko to show DRM stops piracy, or has any effect, other than making paying customers jump through more hoops.
"UR a pirate!!" in 4...3.... :smug:
#57
JCM
And Steam is a form of DRM, as in irights management, as in it checks your activation at first running, and whenever you play online, not to mention several third-party games have other forms of DRM (see links posted when Shegiko again was corrected).
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DRM.html
Short for digital rights management, a system for protecting the copyrights of data circulated via the Internet or other digital media by enabling secure distribution and/or disabling illegal distribution of the data. Typically, a DRM system protects intellectual property by either encrypting the data so that it can only be accessed by authorized users or marking the content with a digital watermark or similar method so that the content can not be freely distributed.
It not a bad system, while I disagree with online activations, but some third-party games do have SecuRom-
JCM
Welcome to halforum, or making a strawman when you cant prove that DRM has any use, and does anything but take away rights from paying customers.tegid said:
And Steam is a form of DRM, as in irights management, as in it checks your activation at first running, and whenever you play online, not to mention several third-party games have other forms of DRM (see links posted when Shegiko again was corrected).
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DRM.html
Short for digital rights management, a system for protecting the copyrights of data circulated via the Internet or other digital media by enabling secure distribution and/or disabling illegal distribution of the data. Typically, a DRM system protects intellectual property by either encrypting the data so that it can only be accessed by authorized users or marking the content with a digital watermark or similar method so that the content can not be freely distributed.
It not a bad system, while I disagree with online activations, but some third-party games do have SecuRom-
Now back again to waiting for anything but :quote: PIRATES! :quote: and ad-homins from @l3an and Shegiko, and not one post proving that DRM in any way works.JCM said:Example, GTAIV has securom, as well as many other Steam games-
http://reclaimyourgame.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=11
However Steam rocks in telling you which other DRM is there besides steam-
And yes, again STEAM in itself is DRM. You must activate the game online (and in the case of popular games like Half Life 2 at launch, spend days waiting for activation servers to come back online to play), and it checks if you have a legit copy of all your games everytime you turn it on.
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@Li3n
@Li3n
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JCM
JCM
#60
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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JCM
JCM
#62
Shegokigo
You're too much fun JCM. Not much of a conversationalist, but really fun. :slywink:
Shegokigo
You're too much fun JCM. Not much of a conversationalist, but really fun. :slywink:
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
#64
JCM
JCM
Chaz.
I said its DRM, but taking away some 3rd-party games, its not bad. And I agree 100% on Apple, I stopped buying their shit this year when I had a company-bought Macbook die on me, and go without any support because my %$^# company lost the receipt. (Is it so hard to check the serial number, or bill me for repair?)
The corporate whore was a dig at Shegiko's labelling anyone who said anything against DRM as Pirates!
2 pages and you still havent made any point besides ad-hominems and PIRATES!!
I said its DRM, but taking away some 3rd-party games, its not bad. And I agree 100% on Apple, I stopped buying their shit this year when I had a company-bought Macbook die on me, and go without any support because my %$^# company lost the receipt. (Is it so hard to check the serial number, or bill me for repair?)
The corporate whore was a dig at Shegiko's labelling anyone who said anything against DRM as Pirates!
Not as much as you my fair lady, with a extra serving of pathetic, good to see the familiar Shego hasnt been totally eridicated.Shegokigo said:
You're too much fun JCM. Not much of a conversationalist, but really fun. :slywink:
2 pages and you still havent made any point besides ad-hominems and PIRATES!!
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
I have no problems playing "last word" with you JCM, I'm on the forum alot more than you. :slywink: I however don't have to resort to put downs.JCM said:
#66
JCM
You stay on an internet forum long? Congrats, parents must be proud, but you are no Crone nor Zod. I still await for your point on DRM, but knowing you, its like asking a chimp to write an award-winning movie.
:smug:
JCM
Of course not, after ad-hominems and screaming PIRATES! when asked what your point was, and seeing that you had squat (DRM infringes civil liberty rights, doesnt stop Piracy, actually helps increase, only the paying customer suffers with it), trying a put down would add to the hilarity.Shegokigo said:I have no problems playing "last word" with you JCM, I'm on the forum alot more than you. :slywink: I however don't have to resort to put downs.
You stay on an internet forum long? Congrats, parents must be proud, but you are no Crone nor Zod. I still await for your point on DRM, but knowing you, its like asking a chimp to write an award-winning movie.
:smug:
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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JCM
JCM
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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JCM
JCM
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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JCM
JCM
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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JCM
JCM
Really?
Or laughably claiming up to a page back that Steam wasnt DRM. EDIT
age 3!!!
Shegokigo who never heard of online activations said:
Shegokigo who needs seriously to travel said:
shegiko who never read the STEAM EULA or game descriptions said:
Shegokigo who mytholocically think pirates dont crack games said:
Hey said:
Shegokigo who blames users for buying a game cd early and cant play the game said:
Shegiko with no point said:
More hilarity and unclear BS about DRM having any effect on piracy-Shegiko at her reading comprehension best said:
Shegokigo still not making any sense said:
Shegokigo who thinks pirates crack games and dont download them cracked said:
God, I could do this all day, correcting pathetic co-outs, but since you as usual will either try to claim you hage a huge e-peen or whine and say that you werent serious, it´ll do enough to repost your "points".Shegokigo now running away said:
Or laughably claiming up to a page back that Steam wasnt DRM. EDIT
age 3!!!
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
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JCM
:aaahhh:
Love how after screaming PIRATES! defending customers having to wait to polay a cd theyve bought and countless BS defense of SecuROM, now its "I only said Steam was good" (activation and SecuROM in countless games aside)
JCM
Shegokigo said:
:aaahhh:Love how after screaming PIRATES! defending customers having to wait to polay a cd theyve bought and countless BS defense of SecuROM, now its "I only said Steam was good" (activation and SecuROM in countless games aside)
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Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Like I said, everything else was egg on your face. :slywink:JCM said:Shegokigo said:
Love how after screaming PIRATES! defending customers having to wait to polay a cd theyve bought and countless BS defense of SecuROM, now its "I only said Steam was good" (activation and SecuROM in countless games aside)
#78
JCM
Pathetic, and hilarious, thanks for the entertainment.
JCM
Sure kiddo, whatever you tell yourself to make riding the BS train more comfortable.Shegokigo said:
Pathetic, and hilarious, thanks for the entertainment.
#79
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#80
JCM
JCM
#81
figmentPez
figmentPez
#82
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Sound like you got a self-mantra going! Self-help is the best kind I always say. Good of you to share with the rest of us though.JCM said:
Yes, STEAM is DRM, is it as rigid? Not by a long shot. Where DRM comes from is irrefutable. Try and keep up Fig. This isn't for discussion, this is to keep JCM posting.figmentPez said:
#83
JCM
JCM
#84
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Finally! You got it! So kind of you. Thanks JCM, I know how you usually get to do the last one, but I wanted this one.JCM said:
#85
JCM
JCM
#86
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#87
JCM
Love how you became happy, thinking you´d get last post. Anonymous nerds and their e-peens, eesh.
Still not even MajorKhaos level of troll. At least he could feign intelligence while amusing me.
JCM
Love how you became happy, thinking you´d get last post. Anonymous nerds and their e-peens, eesh.
As I said, tell whatever you´d wish was true, my apologies, ad-hominem girl, but you havent convinced anyone that you had a point.Shegokigo said:
Still not even MajorKhaos level of troll. At least he could feign intelligence while amusing me.
#88
Shegokigo
The day is just flying by! :uhhuh:
Shegokigo
JCM said:
JCM said:
Shegokigo said:
The day is just flying by! :uhhuh:
#89
JCM
JCM
*hangs last post above troll and watches troll keep biting*
Or laughably claiming up to a page back that Steam wasnt DRM. EDITage 3!!!
JCM said:
Shegokigo who never heard of online activations said:
Shegokigo who needs seriously to travel said:
shegiko who never read the STEAM EULA or game descriptions said:
Shegokigo who mytholocically think pirates dont crack games said:
Hey said:
Shegokigo who blames users for buying a game cd early and cant play the game said:
Shegiko with no point said:
More hilarity and unclear BS about DRM having any effect on piracy-Shegiko at her reading comprehension best said:
Shegokigo still not making any sense said:
Shegokigo who thinks pirates crack games and dont download them cracked said:
God, I could do this all day, correcting pathetic co-outs, but since you as usual will either try to claim you hage a huge e-peen or whine and say that you werent serious, it´ll do enough to repost your "points".Shegokigo now running away said:
Or laughably claiming up to a page back that Steam wasnt DRM. EDIT
age 3!!!
#90
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Om nom nom nom!JCM said:
#91
JCM
JCM
Shegokigo said:Om nom nom nom!JCM said:
#92
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
How easy it is to get you to change direction. :slywink:JCM said:
#93
JCM
JCM
*still hangs last post above troll and watches troll keep biting*
I´d hate for you to be playing "pathetic cop-out" alone.Shegokigo said:How easy it is to get you to change direction. :slywink:JCM said:
#94
Cat
Cat
#95
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#96
JCM
JCM
*hangs last post above troll and watches troll keep biting*
Or laughably claiming up to a page back that Steam wasnt DRM. EDITage 4?!!!
JCM said:
Shegokigo who never heard of online activations said:
Shegokigo who needs seriously to travel said:
shegiko who never read the STEAM EULA or game descriptions said:
Shegokigo who mytholocically think pirates dont crack games said:
Hey said:
Shegokigo who blames users for buying a game cd early and cant play the game said:
Shegiko with no point said:
More hilarity and unclear BS about DRM having any effect on piracy-Shegiko at her reading comprehension best said:
Shegokigo still not making any sense said:
Shegokigo who thinks pirates crack games and dont download them cracked said:
God, I could do this all day, correcting pathetic co-outs, but since you as usual will either try to claim you hage a huge e-peen or whine and say that you werent serious, it´ll do enough to repost your "points".Shegokigo now running away said:
Or laughably claiming up to a page back that Steam wasnt DRM. EDIT
age 4?!!!
#97
Shegokigo
Also, if you thought I was "happy", I'm alot better at this than I thought. :uhhuh:
Oh and I can do this all day, everyday, every hour. :smug:
Shegokigo
Anonymous nerds? As if you posting anything about yourself makes you non-anon.JCM said:Love how you became happy, thinking you´d get last post. Anonymous nerds and their e-peens, eesh.
Also, if you thought I was "happy", I'm alot better at this than I thought. :uhhuh:
Oh and I can do this all day, everyday, every hour. :smug:
#98
Le Quack
Le Quack
#99
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#100
JCM
JCM
#101
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#102
Le Quack
Le Quack
#103
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#104
JCM
JCM
#105
Le Quack
Le Quack
#106
Shegokigo
aranoid:
Shegokigo
At least you admit it. :slywink:JCM said:
I'm going out on a limb here but I doubt your purchase to download ratio is 5/1. :bush:JCM said:
Yet you corrected nothing and all you did was dance beautifully for m.eJCM said:
Psssst, cause it is.Le Quack said:
aranoid:
#107
JCM
JCM
#108
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#109
JCM
JCM
#110
Shegokigo
Oh and please go digging around the thread to find these "offtopic posts insulting" that I did to you. Come on now, get moving. Hunt boy! Hunt!
Shegokigo
But JCM, if pirating to stick it to the man is so "ok" why would you take "pirate" as an insult?JCM said:
Oh and please go digging around the thread to find these "offtopic posts insulting" that I did to you. Come on now, get moving. Hunt boy! Hunt!I'm trying to figure how where I said I didn't download stuff? Hm, I don't play the "Oh my god, don't call me a pirate!" shtick the way you do.JCM said:
You haven't corrected a silly thing in this whole thread JCM. You've danced quite predictably though.JCM said:
#111
JCM
JCM
#112
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#113
JCM
JCM
#114
Le Quack
Le Quack
#115
Shegokigo
Cause all you did was exactly what I told you to do, on command at that. (cracks the whip again)
You didn't prove anything wrong because there was no discussion. Everything I wrote in this thread was about 98% to get you to raaaaaage and it went swimmingly.
*holds up another hoop*
Cmon boy, you can do it!
Shegokigo
Then you fail at reading comprehension and post interpretation.JCM said:
Cause all you did was exactly what I told you to do, on command at that. (cracks the whip again) You didn't even come close to "making me sensitive" or "hurt". Not even the same zip code as either of those. Though you do beautifully jump through hoops held up for you.JCM said:
You didn't prove anything wrong because there was no discussion. Everything I wrote in this thread was about 98% to get you to raaaaaage and it went swimmingly.*holds up another hoop*
Cmon boy, you can do it!
#116
JCM
Pretending that you werent that idiotic because of a soreness over losing,god, thats the most pathetic Ive seen in a while. Its like watching Osama cry "I WASNT WRONG! I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO THINK THE US WAS THE GREAT SATAN", again, Im sorry babygirl, I never knew you would get so sensitive, or would turn around and claim that something you said wasnt DRM suddenly was. Its okay to admit it, but its to make up another reality in which you didnt write all the following (and more)Apologies for making fun of you being wrong[/quote].
But hey, great posts have been made by other posters against DRM-
-STEAM is DRM
-You need to activate online a physical game disc (most here are against this, some not)
-Some Steam games have SecuROM
-DRM hasnt been proven to deter pirates, and piracy has only increased
-Sone gamers have started pirating because of DRM
-Pirates play cracked games with less hassle than paying customers.
Feel free to accuse everyone of bias while not refuting anything.
*holds last post and whistles for Shegiko* COME GIRL!!!
JCM
Sorry, I dont know where that hoop has been, but again, while we both share the fact we pirate, but you were wrong, over and over. And entertained me, specially that post after I made you believe you´d get the last post.
Pretending that you werent that idiotic because of a soreness over losing,god, thats the most pathetic Ive seen in a while. Its like watching Osama cry "I WASNT WRONG! I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO THINK THE US WAS THE GREAT SATAN", again, Im sorry babygirl, I never knew you would get so sensitive, or would turn around and claim that something you said wasnt DRM suddenly was. Its okay to admit it, but its to make up another reality in which you didnt write all the following (and more)Apologies for making fun of you being wrong[/quote].
As you havent read the thread, I just corrected Shegiko[s posts with stuff like STEAM isnt DRM, and that there isnt third-party DRM. And I have said-Le Quack said:
JCM said:
JCM said:
But hey, great posts have been made by other posters against DRM-
Bubble181 said:
Viggs said:
Bowielee said:
PatrThom said:
The points still stand-figmentPez said:
-STEAM is DRM
-You need to activate online a physical game disc (most here are against this, some not)
-Some Steam games have SecuROM
-DRM hasnt been proven to deter pirates, and piracy has only increased
-Sone gamers have started pirating because of DRM
-Pirates play cracked games with less hassle than paying customers.
Feel free to accuse everyone of bias while not refuting anything.
*holds last post and whistles for Shegiko* COME GIRL!!!
#117
Shegokigo
DRM exists because of pirates, it's just that simple. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Is it right? Does it work? Is it successful? Nope. Is it there because of them? Yep.
Funny thing is I agree with you on alot of these points, I usually do as you've noticed how I get along with you and defend you in so many other threads.
I just couldn't help but making you go batshit crazy with rage this thread though.
So keep on post quote changing/post name changing/insulting left and right when noonelse has been insultive, and all in all just keep being such a great time killer inbetween raid down times for me. :uhhuh:
Shegokigo
Is it really that hard on you realizing you were dragged along this whole thread, kicking and screaming? You know why so many people dropped off this conversation/thread? I was in Private Messages with alot of them before this thread really took off, with little messages "Watch how I get JCM pissed off with this next post" and having a laugh in PMs every other post you replied to.JCM said:
Steam is DRM. Yes you have to activate online a physical game disc. Some Steam games have SecuROM. All of that I'm with you 100%, but they're such hot buttons for you I can't help but just egg you on, it's just too easy.JCM said:
DRM exists because of pirates, it's just that simple. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Is it right? Does it work? Is it successful? Nope. Is it there because of them? Yep.
Funny thing is I agree with you on alot of these points, I usually do as you've noticed how I get along with you and defend you in so many other threads.
I just couldn't help but making you go batshit crazy with rage this thread though.
So keep on post quote changing/post name changing/insulting left and right when noonelse has been insultive, and all in all just keep being such a great time killer inbetween raid down times for me.
:uhhuh:
#118
JCM
Gives a pat
Self denial and overeaction is so cute to watch.
[quote="Shegiko"
damn, the way you overreacted and started screaming PIRAAATES!! made me think your lover was a RIAA lawyer or something, of course you werent dragged for 4 pages, exactly like I said I did. Of course your entertainiming me and idiotic rants made for great reading here, but hey, how many times do I have to apologize for making you, after the entire thread disagree with your points, turn around and say Lolz! it was a joke.
Sorry for your oversensitiveness, and you having to reverse everything you said,I´ll always remember the easiness it was to
-correct you,
-have you reverse all you said
-cry over returns of snarkiness and insults
-STILL be my bitch in hopes for a last post.
*throws post again to Shegiko*
Now fetch!
JCM
Good girl!JCM said:
Gives a pat
Aww.Shegokigo said:
Self denial and overeaction is so cute to watch.
[quote="Shegiko"
Steam is DRM. Yes you have to activate online a physical game disc. Some Steam games have SecuROM. All of that I'm with you 100%, but they're such hot buttons for you I can't help but just egg you on, it's just too easy.[/quote]Aww, another reversal?JCM said:
damn, the way you overreacted and started screaming PIRAAATES!! made me think your lover was a RIAA lawyer or something, of course you werent dragged for 4 pages, exactly like I said I did. Of course your entertainiming me and idiotic rants made for great reading here, but hey, how many times do I have to apologize for making you, after the entire thread disagree with your points, turn around and say Lolz! it was a joke.
Sorry for your oversensitiveness, and you having to reverse everything you said,I´ll always remember the easiness it was to
-correct you,
-have you reverse all you said
-cry over returns of snarkiness and insults
-STILL be my bitch in hopes for a last post.
*throws post again to Shegiko*
Now fetch!
#119
Shegokigo
*holds the hoop*
Cmon JCM, jump jump!
Shegokigo
Oh I agree, you should see the PMs I've been getting this entire thread and have continued getting in response to how crazy I've made you get and continue to drag you along in this thread.JCM said:
The only one getting a kick out of this is me, also there was no "turn around" like you want to believe. I've been playing with you since the beginning as everyone in my PM box right now knows. The only one out of the loop and being made fun of is you JCM.JCM said:
I'm still trying to figure out where you get me "crying" and "overly" sensitive. The only one getting emotional this whole thread has been you JCM, just you raaaaaging every post.JCM said:
*holds the hoop*
Cmon JCM, jump jump!
#120
JCM
JCM
Aww, my girl not only can be proven wrong, reverse everything and obey me, now she can also hold a hoop?
AGAIN, FOR ANOTHER 4 PAGES!!
Gives a pat
Self denial and overeaction is so cute to watch.
[quote="Shegiko"
damn, the way you overreacted and started screaming PIRAAATES!! made me think your lover was a RIAA lawyer or something, of course you werent dragged for 4 pages, exactly like I said I did. Of course your entertainiming me and idiotic rants made for great reading here, but hey, how many times do I have to apologize for making you, after the entire thread disagree with your points, turn around and say Lolz! it was a joke.
Sorry for your oversensitiveness, and you having to reverse everything you said,I´ll always remember the easiness it was to
-correct you,
-have you reverse all you said
-cry over returns of snarkiness and insults
-STILL be my bitch in hopes for a last post.
*throws post again to Shegiko*
Now fetch!
Good girl!JCM said:
AGAIN, FOR ANOTHER 4 PAGES!!
Gives a pat
Aww.Shegokigo said:
Self denial and overeaction is so cute to watch.
[quote="Shegiko"
Steam is DRM. Yes you have to activate online a physical game disc. Some Steam games have SecuROM. All of that I'm with you 100%, but they're such hot buttons for you I can't help but just egg you on, it's just too easy.[/quote]Aww, another reversal?JCM said:
damn, the way you overreacted and started screaming PIRAAATES!! made me think your lover was a RIAA lawyer or something, of course you werent dragged for 4 pages, exactly like I said I did. Of course your entertainiming me and idiotic rants made for great reading here, but hey, how many times do I have to apologize for making you, after the entire thread disagree with your points, turn around and say Lolz! it was a joke.
Sorry for your oversensitiveness, and you having to reverse everything you said,I´ll always remember the easiness it was to
-correct you,
-have you reverse all you said
-cry over returns of snarkiness and insults
-STILL be my bitch in hopes for a last post.
*throws post again to Shegiko*
Now fetch!
#121
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
Does it really bother you that much to be at the butt end of a joke JCM? That you go into complete denial that it's happening, even right in front of you?
You get so emotional, you turn to insults, image posts, rage in every post, I can't believe you let me get to you like that.
I haven't been the least bit insultive and played with you all thread long and you still just don't get it.
You get so emotional, you turn to insults, image posts, rage in every post, I can't believe you let me get to you like that.
I haven't been the least bit insultive and played with you all thread long and you still just don't get it.
#122
JCM
JCM
Shego, does it really bother you that much to be at the butt end of a joke Shego? And still be wrong? And stillhave to go into complete denial that it's happening, even right in front of you?
You get so emotional, you turn to insults, handjobbing offtopic posters, emoticons, emotion in every post, I can't believe you let me get to you like that for 4 pages, and still reverted and said I was right, you were wrong, and now entertain me.
I haven't been the least bit insultive and played with you all thread long and you still just don't get it.
Now go fetch! One day you´ll be like crone and Zod.
BTW:Thanks for hopping over to the other thread when I called you.
You get so emotional, you turn to insults, handjobbing offtopic posters, emoticons, emotion in every post, I can't believe you let me get to you like that for 4 pages, and still reverted and said I was right, you were wrong, and now entertain me.
I haven't been the least bit insultive and played with you all thread long and you still just don't get it.
Now go fetch! One day you´ll be like crone and Zod.
BTW:Thanks for hopping over to the other thread when I called you.
#123
Shegokigo
Shegokigo
#124
JCM
JCM
#125
Shegokigo
Oh and you have your GF over and workmates, and you spend hours responding to troll posts? :bush: I can't figure out which is funnier.
Shegokigo
Nothing wrong with me, I'm not the one exploding off because they're being made fun of.JCM said:
Oh and you have your GF over and workmates, and you spend hours responding to troll posts? :bush: I can't figure out which is funnier.
PIRATE! Was never my form/intention of having a conversation. Not sure why you're still bringing it up.I wasn't making any points, I wasn't refuting anything. I was dragging you along, to my and a few others amusement. Nothing more. Seriously, just get it JCM.JCM said:
I'll be here for quite a few more hours, enjoying every minute of how well you played the game. Sadly your entertainment came from "not getting the joke" for about 5 pages.JCM said:
#126
JCM
Man, I could teach your lesbian lover how to make you jump, post, lie down, and change places.
Night ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
JCM
About a bit more than you, my faithful companion. 5 pages of you answering every time I threw you a bone, still having to say I was right and jump to another thread at my beck and call.Shegokigo said:Nothing wrong with me, I'm not the one exploding off because they're being made fun of.JCM said:
Oh and you have your GF over and workmates, and you spend hours responding to troll posts? :bush: I can't figure out which is funnier.
PIRATE! Was never my form/intention of having a conversation. Not sure why you're still bringing it up.I wasn't making any points, I wasn't refuting anything. I was dragging you along, to my and a few others amusement. Nothing more. Seriously, just get it JCM.JCM said:
I'll be here for quite a few more hours, enjoying every minute of how well you played the game. Sadly your entertainment came from "not getting the joke" for about 5 pages.JCM said:
Man, I could teach your lesbian lover how to make you jump, post, lie down, and change places.
Night ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
#127
Shegokigo
Didn't you say "goodnight" in your last post?
Shegokigo
Cute how you started "throwing the bone" after I had you "jumping through hoops" long before you even knew it was happening. :slywink:JCM said:
Didn't you say "goodnight" in your last post?
#128
Le Quack
Le Quack
#129
Frankie Williamson
Frankie Williamson
#130
JCM
JCM
Shego, cute how you started "putting the hoop" after I had you "post BS sine page two" long before you even knew it was happening, heck, Ive even sent an apology pm to some mods back on page 1, because I would make you post for several pages :slywink:
Didn't you say "handjob" LeQuack in your last post?
Grow up,
But hey, great posts have been made by other posters against DRM-
-STEAM is DRM
-You need to activate online a physical game disc (most here are against this, some not)
-Some Steam games have SecuROM
-DRM hasnt been proven to deter pirates, and piracy has only increased
-Sone gamers have started pirating because of DRM
-Pirates play cracked games with less hassle than paying customers.
Feel free to accuse everyone of bias while not refuting anything.[/quote]
:smug:
Didn't you say "handjob" LeQuack in your last post?
Sorry, you are "too biased" to say that.Le Quack said:
Grow up,
.JCM said:Sorry, I dont know where that hoop has been, but again, while we both share the fact we pirate, but you were wrong, over and over. And entertained me, specially that post after I made you believe you´d get the last post.
Pretending that you werent that idiotic because of a soreness over losing,god, thats the most pathetic Ive seen in a while. Its like watching Osama cry "I WASNT WRONG! I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO THINK THE US WAS THE GREAT SATAN", again, Im sorry babygirl, I never knew you would get so sensitive, or would turn around and claim that something you said wasnt DRM suddenly was. Its okay to admit it, but its to make up another reality in which you didnt write all the following (and more)Apologies for making fun of you being wrong
As you havent read the thread, I just corrected Shegiko[s posts with stuff like STEAM isnt DRM, and that there isnt third-party DRM. And I have said-Le Quack said:
JCM said:
JCM said:
But hey, great posts have been made by other posters against DRM-
Bubble181 said:
Viggs said:
Bowielee said:
PatrThom said:
The points still stand-figmentPez said:
-STEAM is DRM
-You need to activate online a physical game disc (most here are against this, some not)
-Some Steam games have SecuROM
-DRM hasnt been proven to deter pirates, and piracy has only increased
-Sone gamers have started pirating because of DRM
-Pirates play cracked games with less hassle than paying customers.
Feel free to accuse everyone of bias while not refuting anything.[/quote]
:smug:
#131
@Li3n
@Li3n
#132
JCM
JCM
#133
Chazwozel
Chazwozel
#134
@Li3n
@Li3n
#135
JCM
Feel free to invade another conversation ala LeQuack and whine about something, then take to ad-homins and derogatory posts. Now for more posts from Shego, who after being my bitch and bringing this thread to 4 more pages like I told her, and saying I was right, now will try to post some one-liners to make me laugh even more.
Now entertain me.
JCM
Sorry, I cant be bothered to check for the spelling of some trolling forumite with no opinion or arguement, who just enters a thread to directly whine. Dont worry, Im sure you cut in real conversations to whine about one of the speakers.@Li3n said:
Feel free to invade another conversation ala LeQuack and whine about something, then take to ad-homins and derogatory posts. Now for more posts from Shego, who after being my bitch and bringing this thread to 4 more pages like I told her, and saying I was right, now will try to post some one-liners to make me laugh even more.
Now entertain me.
#136
Le Quack
Le Quack
#137
JCM
JCM
Good boy!
Just like I said, LeQuack would post ad-homins all the way to high heavens.
Why is your post so emotional and enraged? After all, you, Shego and Lian are the ones whining insults, Im merely replying. Its just the internet, fucking virgin, get a life.
Now awaiting for more drama llamas to entertain me, its like dessert after being right, having crybabies whine over and over.
Fetch trolls!
Just like I said, LeQuack would post ad-homins all the way to high heavens.
Of course you, Shego and L3an were trolling. On-topic, I was right. The end,Le Quack said:
Why is your post so emotional and enraged? After all, you, Shego and Lian are the ones whining insults, Im merely replying. Its just the internet, fucking virgin, get a life.
Now awaiting for more drama llamas to entertain me, its like dessert after being right, having crybabies whine over and over.
Fetch trolls!
#138
@Li3n
And i guess if i wasn't arguing with you my contributions to the thread where whining... i just didn't realise that yet. I'll do better next time, i promise.
Also, i knew this one would come in handy soon:
Why he would wonder that people use fallacies, well that's another questions.
@Li3n
How can i make ad hominem if i'm not arguing with the person i'm derogating?!JCM said:
And i guess if i wasn't arguing with you my contributions to the thread where whining... i just didn't realise that yet. I'll do better next time, i promise.
See, now that's better.JCM said:
Also, i knew this one would come in handy soon:
Eh, dude, pointing out someone's bias isn't a logical way to counter their arguments... because it ignores the arguments themselves. It's saying "you have a reason to lie" without actually proving he is or isn't.
Why he would wonder that people use fallacies, well that's another questions.
#139
Le Quack
Just like I predicted! JCM will continue to say nothing!
Le Quack
Just like I predicted! JCM will continue to say nothing!
#140
Mr_Chaz
Mr_Chaz
#141
JCM
JCM
#142
Le Quack
Le Quack
#143
JCM
JCM
#144
Le Quack
Le Quack
#145
JCM
JCM
#146
Le Quack
Le Quack
#147
JCM
JCM
Hmm, love wikipedia's page on ad-hominems.
A debate is a two-way road LeQuack, in RL entering a thread, insulting someone then running away from questions, while demanding someone read a post probably full of derogatory remarks would get you kicked out of the debate.
Not that it doesn't happen, as Ive said, its normal for people to take to ad-hominems and derogatory attacks when one cant beat him in an argument.
You made a bias claim a page back, and haven't answered other posters saying the exact same thing (and as of page 4, with Shego agreeing to all my points). refute any of those points, or be a gentleman and retract that useless "bias!" attack, after all, most forumites are as much pirates as I am, and the points havent been refuted.
A debate is a two-way road LeQuack, in RL entering a thread, insulting someone then running away from questions, while demanding someone read a post probably full of derogatory remarks would get you kicked out of the debate.
Not that it doesn't happen, as Ive said, its normal for people to take to ad-hominems and derogatory attacks when one cant beat him in an argument.
You made a bias claim a page back, and haven't answered other posters saying the exact same thing (and as of page 4, with Shego agreeing to all my points). refute any of those points, or be a gentleman and retract that useless "bias!" attack, after all, most forumites are as much pirates as I am, and the points havent been refuted.
#148
@Li3n
@Li3n
#149
JCM
JCM
True, but I like debate much, and we do sometimes keep the opponent screaming after being able to refute your points.
Sadly, I have been as much of a troll as you, Shego and LeQuack, at page 1 I already sent pms to the mods apologizing for the oncoming pages that would follow (as its against the rules to turn a thread to a personal fight like Shego wanted, its a formality to let a mod know and should he want, ask you to stop).
But then Im in bed with flu and constant humm of the nebulizer, so was a good time-waster.
Which is why he wont answer or refute anything.
Theres a poll showing that most here pirate as much as I do. There are posts from other posters here saying the same points Im making.
When you cant attack the arguement, attack the man. Welcome to the world of ad-hominem.
Another example-
Sadly, I have been as much of a troll as you, Shego and LeQuack, at page 1 I already sent pms to the mods apologizing for the oncoming pages that would follow (as its against the rules to turn a thread to a personal fight like Shego wanted, its a formality to let a mod know and should he want, ask you to stop).
But then Im in bed with flu and constant humm of the nebulizer, so was a good time-waster.
Bingo.
Which is why he wont answer or refute anything.
Theres a poll showing that most here pirate as much as I do. There are posts from other posters here saying the same points Im making.
When you cant attack the arguement, attack the man. Welcome to the world of ad-hominem.
Another example-
Anyway, thanks for the entertainment. :smug:
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Especially when everyone is as much a pirate as me.
I
this forum. :smug:
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Ad hominem fallacy again? Note how closely it follows the examples of ad-hominems-LeQuack said:
Well, as debate rules say, when you cant beat the argument, try and whine about the man.ad hominem definition said:
Especially when everyone is as much a pirate as me.
I
this forum. :smug:
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