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Please don’t post in here if you’re not part of my DnD group or don’t have something constructive to add to the ongoing conversations. However, people who are knowledgeable in DnD matters can post here as long as they are helpful. Thank you!
Some of us have expressed an interest to play another DnD game for some time now and we have slowly organized things so that it went from a distant possibility to an actual reality. Obviously, I’ll be taking the part of the DM… what can I say… Shawnacy’s work has inspired me during the long weeks waiting for the next game to do this! I’ll be striving to get rid of the decade old rust to catch up to speed with the new rules… but I promise to be a quick learner!

As our discussions went on we have agreed that the ideal time where we were all available would be on Tuesday nights with the start time being at 6:30 PM Eastern Time and most sessions wrapping up around 10:30-11 PM. This will be an ongoing campaign with regular games planned every week. I don’t plan to have any downtime or any breaks other than my 2 week vacation with my fiancée late in September. The official start date will be July 15th (I’d do it on the 8th but I have scheduled a dentist appointment that day to remove 2 wisdom teeth, so yeah, not going be fit to talk for 4 hours that same night) and it will give people ample time to create their characters and their backstories. Thus allowing me the time to create the campaign I want that will fully interact with my players and their characters.

Please note that this is a 5 player DnD group that will be far more oriented towards role playing and have more role playing options available to them. For example, I’ve already come up with a few ideas to stimulate this and I’m going to continually find more ways to give the players the freedom of choice on how things may or may not be handled by their very own decisions. This will be a constant factor during the campaign. There will be the hard way and there will be easy way and players will be deciding that…. or your companions will! *shifty eyes*

I intend to portray a cinematic view on how things are being played out with you guys playing the role of the actors. So, expect some tasty drama and story swerves! Expect me to also tend to get a bit carried away portraying monsters and npcs, all for the sake of getting people really into the game atmosphere. The final campaign setting is going to be within the old Forgotten Realms in the “The North” (starter location being in Icewind Dale) and the game will run a bit differently from a standard game.

For example, there will be no assisting. I dislike that rule where players can “assist” other players in skill checks. How exactly can someone role play an assist to say, an arcane check when they know jack squat about arcane? “X squints his eyes and is relatively useless; Y appreciated the gesture nonetheless and is now better at checking the magical item”…. What the hell? That ruins DC checks for a bunch of things. I’ll have to raise DC checks on things and that’s unfair to players who have average bonuses to things and won’t necessarily get help. It’s a huge headache for nothing. I’ll allow multiple people to roll, depending on their relative location and use in the matter at hand and I promise you to be fair as the game progresses…. But no assisting rule will apply most of the time.

I feel that rituals are extremely expensive for their intended use, so I plan to make them ½ their original cost. So, if a ritual is 100 gold on DDI, it’ll be available for 50 gold and play a larger role in the game. Oh and for the record, for the sake of simplicity… I’ll be keeping tracks on people’s gold and experience.

Certain races and even classes will be restricted. There’s no definite list as of yet but I’d like classes to be restricted to those not in monster manuals. Dwarves, Elves, Humans, Gnomes, Halflings…etc are perfectly fine. I’m not going to allow certain “races” such as revenants, drows, constructs…and so forth. Do take in note of the game setting in the far north so some races will be considered extremely rare to see and exceedingly mistrusted such as shape shifters and tieflings. So, expect the game to consistently take this into consideration and considerably affect the party, which I don’t suggest. So when you’ll pick your race and class, kindly clear that up with me before you fully create your character.


To play with us, as I’m already sure you already most of these tools… and there following rules are mandatory:

Gametable – http://sourceforge.net/projects/gametable
Ventrilo – http://www.ventrilo.com/
DDI Character Builder
A working microphone…

- I’ll be providing my IP on Vent before our gaming sessions to connect to GameTable. It may change every week as I have ADSL.

- You need to be on Ventrilo for every game session and have a functional microphone to be able to interact. I don’t think it’ll be fair for everyone to wait for people to type things out.

- A fully functional DDI Character Builder would be cool beans; if you don’t have it, PM me. I have… options.

- You’ll need to have your macros ready, the first day. No exceptions. There will also be a special guideline for you to create your macros.

- Be there on time, in fact, be available 15-20 minutes ahead of time so you can review your character sheet and catch up on your abilities as well as chit chat briefly with your buddies and your DM without taking away from the gaming goodness.

- Let other players play their turn, its fine to help them out and point something out occasionally but allow them to play out their turn. Sometimes people will learn from their mistakes. People who constantly interrupt others will suffer.

- This also means players should be planning what to do their next turn so that they are more often than not, up to speed to what to do and not bog down combat.

- Players cannot provide other players advice if they aren’t present or unable to talk (aka unconscious, petrified). This is a solid hint on things planned. *shifty eyes*

- Monster HP will only be shown after they are bloodied.





In regards to macros, they make sessions play more efficiently and run more quickly. You should setup every one of your “skill checks” (yes, you may be asked to perform checks you’re incompetent in, mostly because fail results can be very entertaining), your init check, save rolls, race feats, attack rolls AND damage rolls… etc… So take the 15-20 minutes to check your character sheet and create your macros… and remember to save them regularly!!! Also, every time you level, you may have to update them but this should take even less time.

Attacks rolls need to have the following guideline in their descriptive texts:
NAME - (ATTACK vs. DEFENCE) (TYPE) (Range)

Example:

Lance of Faith - (Wisdom vs Will) (Radiant) (5)
Turn Undead - (Wisdom vs Will) (Radiant) (Close Burst 2)
This will help me out enormously!!!!


Damage should follow a similar guideline
NAME – (extra Bonuses)

Example:

Lance of Faith – (2 attack power to Ally of choice)

All of this work will allow people to better understand their companions’ abilities a bit better, allow people to be more efficient during their turns and most importantly allow me to process character turns faster. All of this, honestly, simplifies battles.


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At this point, the players can go right ahead and start their character creation. So, take some time to choose what sort of character you want and reply here your main choice along with a backup choice. With 5 players, I’ll be looking for a balanced party but I’ll let you guys settle this amongst yourselves. However, I’d really like to see at least one leader, one guardian, one striker and one controller. Remember, there will be traps, locked doors and may be an issue if you have no one available to take care of them. I know Julie already wants to roll a warlock and …shit, what’s his face… Heath? Wait… Darrell…. Is open to whatever is needed. Once people have a general idea what race/class/dispo they’ll be creating, they can start working on their backgrounds at the same time finish drafts of their characters and share with others. It would be also a good idea to maybe create relations between characters; they may be childhood friends, family, etc… for the sake of the story.

Finally, I do want to mention that while I do have some possible leads on our 5th player, it’s still pretty uncertain at this point and time. So, if you read this and feel you can be a candidate after reading this wall of text, PM me.

Players :

Edrondol
Shawnacy
falineoflight
escushion
???
 
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Looking at playing a Gnome Artificer (Leader/Controller) pending DM approval. It's not a very FR friendly class. And I honestly wouldn't blame Jay for saying no the more I think about it.
If not, I'll probably try out a Swordmage (Defender), Invoker (Controller), or Avenger (Striker)

EDIT: I believe I've decided I would like to try a Human Swordmage. I'm going to go the Shieldinng Swordmage route and focus on party defense.
I've been playing Leader Roles since the game came out. I think it's time for a change.
 
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i guess everyone kind of migrated from gruebeard's game to this one huh? without dave or shawn the other game will only have 3 people, not enough to really do a game. if you guys will take me i would be happy to be in this game too.
 
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I believe I've decided I would like to try a Human Swordmage. I'm going to go the Shieldinng Swordmage route and focus on party defense.
I've been playing Leader Roles since the game came out. I think it's time for a change.
This looks like win. Swordmages are cool.

Gurpel said:
i guess everyone kind of migrated from gruebeard's game to this one huh? without dave or shawn the other game will only have 3 people, not enough to really do a game. if you guys will take me i would be happy to be in this game too.
Yes, I believe that’s true. I guess it was a question of a lack of consistent game sessions and that is somewhat important to some. I’m sure he’ll find suitable replacements! However, I’d rather not dwell on that in this thread. Thanks. :)

In regards to you playing in this DnD game, with all due respect, I feel that you’re simply not going to enjoy it a whole lot. You tend to be impulsive and want a lot of action and I won’t be providing that a whole lot. Sessions are going to run somewhat slower than Shawnacy’s (without being boring I promise people!) and will cater to role-playing and role players. Combat will definitely feel more epic. I just don’t feel you’ll make a decent addition to this group. Sorry mate but I’ll still look forward playing with you on Thursdays.

If you have any issues with this PM me, I’d rather not continue this discussion in this thread and derail it from the player's character discussions. Thanks!
 
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Is there any way we can do this earlier, like 6 EST to 10-10:30 EST? Reason is that Julie has to get up at 5:30 AM for work and she can do the late thing one night a week, but two nights a week is too much for her. And so if it has to be 11-11:30, she can't play, and if she can't play, I can't really be loud with you guys while she's sleeping (or it's the L4D thing again, take your pick).

In any case, I know Jay is getting blasted right now and will probably be so until Friday, so we'll see.
 
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Hello.
I'm on my Crackberry.
The best I personally can do is start the game half an hour earlier.
Don't know about the others.
 
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I'll see what she says in the morning.

In the meantime, and with hopes that I get to play, here's my intended character. I'd like to be a Halfling Cleric. My character would be a town doctor, whose reasons for traveling and whatnot could be figured out (finding medicines and such, visiting patients). He's rude, but finds the art of healing to be important, worships the Raven Queen in hopes he can keep his patients alive by accepting the deaths of others, and is truly the finest physician under four feet.
 

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I'd be glad to join you guys if you'll have me. I just need to check with my Kamicon Club Prez about when our meetings will be this year. If it's Tuesday like last year I can't play, but otherwise it should be good.

And I'll have a faster connection come the 18th of July, so that won't be an issue except for maybe the first game if it's the 15th.

If you want me I'll go ahead and throw my hat in for a wizard.

I love them bastards.
 
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I've already checked with Shawnacy and he's got no problems with it. And Dave has no life, so he'll always be available. :)

Ok, so far we got:

Shawnacy : (Guardian) Human Swordsmage
Escushion : (Leader) Halfling Cleric
faline : (Striker) ???? Warlock
Ed : ??? ????

I got 2 people who have expressed interest to join but have "maybes" going around their ability to be consistently available. I'd like to have things generally written on paper by next Tuesday so that I have some time to work on the storyline, character backgrounds and interesting sub-quests. So, I might go with 4 players unless something comes up.
 
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Okay, got my sheet and macros all set. Unfortunately, there seems to be only one good build if you want a nice healing cleric; powers are eerily similar to Saryon as a devoted... in any case, he's done. Main skill strengths are heal (+9), insight (+9) and nature (+11). Dr. Brix is prepared.
 
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escushion said:
Okay, got my sheet and macros all set. Unfortunately, there seems to be only one good build if you want a nice healing cleric; powers are eerily similar to Saryon as a devoted... in any case, he's done. Main skill strengths are heal (+9), insight (+9) and nature (+11). Dr. Brix is prepared.
He best be. I'm sure I'm going to need a lot of healing. I'm going to be throwing marks around like they were candy. Enemies are going to have little choice but to attack me.
 
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escushion said:
Okay, got my sheet and macros all set. Unfortunately, there seems to be only one good build if you want a nice healing cleric; powers are eerily similar to Saryon as a devoted... in any case, he's done. Main skill strengths are heal (+9), insight (+9) and nature (+11). Dr. Brix is prepared.
Clerics at lvl 1 have not much to work with unless they plan to go PEW PEW.

WTB moar posts.
 
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MOAR?

*jumps up and down* Cantwaitcantwaitcantwaitcantwait

So here is a question regarding a power of the Swordmage.
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Swordmage Attack 1Sword of Sigils
As you sweep your blade in a wide arc, it glows red and leaves arcane runes burning in the air above your foes.
Encounter Arcane, Force, Weapon
Standard Action Close burst 1

Target: Each enemy in burst
Attack: Intelligence vs. AC
Hit: 1[W] + Intelligence modifier damage, and the target is marked until the end of your next turn. Until the mark ends, if the target makes an attack that does not include you as a target, it takes force damage equal to your Intelligence modifier after the attack is resolved.
Aegis of Shielding: If a target marked by this power hits a creature within 10 squares of you with an attack that does not include you as a target, you can use an immediate interrupt to reduce the damage dealt by that attack to any single creature by an amount equal to your Constitution modifier.
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It says it marks the target. Now does the mark from this power ALSO count as a "mark" in the rules sense where it makes the target suffer a -2 to it's attack rolls against any other target other than the one that marked it?
 
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I don't see why they wouldn't unless it's specifically mentioned in their power details.

I have updated my first post to use the new start time of 6:30 PM Eastern on Tuesday nights.... which means most nights it'll end at 10:30PM, sometimes later depending on player availability.
 
I have come to the conclusion that the start of the campaign will located in a relatively small town called "Dougan's Hole".

Dougan's Hole, one of the Ten Towns of Icewind Dale mostly inhabited by humans with a small number of elves, half-elves and halfings was named so because the town is simply... a mud-hole in the ground. In it situated between a sloping hill and the Redwater lake and was probably first colonised by a man called Dougan, surely! When the snow melts in the summer, it reveals a knee-high layer of mud which every resident have to wade through. Therefore most people living in this town hate the summer-months. Luckily for them... or perhaps not, winter has arrived and it may be the harshest winter season in over 100 years. The city has been having some problems as of late with murders happening in the night and with stolen supplies. The local militia has been actively patrolling and reinforced but the events keep happening. The townsfolk are scared and mostly stay at home at night and have sent out pleas of help far and wide for other towns to help them and adventurers to play the part of heroes.

:unibrow:

You can build you character story around this, if you'd like.
 
If the mud is that high, my halfling will need a rowboat to get to his clinic.

Someone should have their character be an investigator or detective or something (not class, obviously, but just like their town position, or something). Or a deputy to such. I don't know.

This is gonna be interesting.
 
Well, if you read the synopsis you'll know that the town's been plagued with murders.

dum dum dummmmm

PS : We got a 5th player now.

Make sure to keep moving along the creation process of your characters people. Initial backgrounds, relations with eachother..etc.
 
escushion said:
Not me, I'm the town doctor! :p But I could do coroner work.
Does the town need a coroner? I figured they just let the bodies sink into the mud.

"Guess what kids, Grandpa just resurfaced to spend summer solstice with us!"
 
SeriousJay said:
Well, if you read the synopsis you'll know that the town's been plagued with murders.

dum dum dummmmm

PS : We got a 5th player now.

Make sure to keep moving along the creation process of your characters people. Initial backgrounds, relations with eachother..etc.
Right, that's why I said. Unless someone else wants to be a coroner :p.

My character could also use an assistant, to help him get around town apparently, to dig graves, to steal bodies from graves, and to help set bones of larger patients--if anyone wants to start establishing backstories together.

Curious what Julie's planning to be.
 
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Shawnacy said:
It says it marks the target. Now does the mark from this power ALSO count as a "mark" in the rules sense where it makes the target suffer a -2 to it's attack rolls against any other target other than the one that marked it?
All marks make the target suffer -2 to hit, but do not count as a class specific mark unless specifically stated in the power itself. So this power would not count as an Aegis of Assaut or Ensnarement mark.
 
This is my basic backstory to help link him with other folks in the party.

My character is a protector. He was born a rancher's son but was taken away to train at an early age when it was discovered he had arcane gifts. His weapon of choice is the longsword, but all weapons he wields can be used to channel magical energy much like a wizard uses a wand. He has a strong desire to go where he is needed and that fate brings him there. His training is mostly defensive however, and he knows he is no match against the evils of the world on his own. He will seek out a group, or perhaps a person, in need of a meat shield. But he will prefer to side with like minded individuals who share his interest in protecting the innocent.


Jay: Are there any academies nearby that would train swordmages?
 
Seeing as this is the far north with only 10 towns on the smallish side and a collective of about 10000 residents, a small enclave could be entirely possible. Not an academy.
 
SeriousJay said:
Seeing as this is the far north with only 10 towns on the smallish side and a collective of about 10000 residents, a small enclave could be entirely possible. Not an academy.
Hmm. Alright, what would you recommend? Would there be anyone within the ten towns capable of teaching someone the skills of a swordmage?
 
Shawnacy said:
Hmm. Alright, what would you recommend? Would there be anyone within the ten towns capable of teaching someone the skills of a swordmage?
Their "capital" Bryn Shander is a possible choice or perhaps even the beautiful northern town of Termalaine.
 
SeriousJay said:
Shawnacy said:
Hmm. Alright, what would you recommend? Would there be anyone within the ten towns capable of teaching someone the skills of a swordmage?
Their "capital" Bryn Shander is a possible choice or perhaps even the beautiful northern town of Termalaine.
Alright. Would you be okay if i said that my character was taken at an early age to apprentice for a local swordmage in the town of Termalaine?
 
That make senses. Termalaine is the area's most northern city and it has been regularly attacked by the barbarians of the north and the town has been captured by them a handful of times in the last century then taken back. It could be possible they are trying to implement more defenses for the town by creating a small enclave of swordmages.

I would assume your character would be at the Hole due to the problems as of late they are having?
 
SeriousJay said:
That make senses. Termalaine is the area's most northern city and it has been regularly attacked by the barbarians of the north and the town has been captured by them a handful of times in the last century then taken back. It could be possible they are trying to implement more defenses for the town by creating a small enclave of swordmages.

I would assume your character would be at the Hole due to the problems as of late they are having?
Indeed.

And I vote that Dave plays the Gnomish Bard named Gimble Twinkletoes.
 
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