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Alright peoples, you've all expressed some interest in setting up a D&D game, so here's the official thread for it.

So far, the only one to offer to DM is Shawnacy.

So unless he wants to take over the planning, I'm organizing it for now.

All I need from you guys right now is when you can play.

List the times you'd be available to play for an extended period of time. Please list your time in Central time to make this easier. If you can't do that at least tell me what time zone you're in.

Example:

Me:
Monday-Saturday: Anytime (Preferably after noon)
Sunday: (Anytime after 5:30)

As you can see, my schedule is free as a bird.

We will initially pick who will play by whose times match up the best. If we have more than 5-6 players who can play at the same time, Shawnacy (or whoever decides to DM) can opt to allow more in. If not, then we'll do what Dave did and pull names out of an [strike:2lszirt2]ass[/strike:2lszirt2] hat.

Additional Info:

For those who end up playing - You will need:

GameTable - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gametable

Ventrilo - http://www.ventrilo.com/

Microphone (Remember, press Ctrl to talk!)

Headphones (Shawnacy has stated that he hates echo. Get 'em!)

Not Necessary, but EXTREMELY HELPFUL: D&D Character Builder - http://www.wizards.com/download.asp?fil ... DDI_CB.exe
* Note: The Character Builder's demo only allows for creation of characters up to level 3, and does not include some of the more recent updates. Depending on a certain person's generosity, you may have access to it. (The full version requires a DDI subscription)

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As long as it's not as the same time as Dave's game, I'm sure we can use the Halforum Vent server.

My availability is as follows:

Weekdays: Monday, Wednesday-Friday (evenings work best)
Weekends: Evenings

Tuesday night is my IRL D&D game. Weekday nights are probably the best option for me, but I may have to finagle some stuff at work, since it's the summer semester and I work part-time a lot, I'll have to edit my availability at work. Like, if we decide to play Thursday nights, I'll need to ask Thursday nights off - no problem, but it might take a week or two to go into effect.

I work all weekends from 9-5. No way around it, been doing it for almost 7 years.

So yeah, in short - Weekdays offer maximum flexibility for me, weekends are a little tougher but not impossible.

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My availabilities are during the evenings, every day except Saturdays. However, I'd rather not play more than 1-2 times a week. Sundays would be best. As stated in the other thread, I haven't played table top for many years now and have a limited knowledge of 4.0 but I'd be willing to learn, if given the chance to. After 1-2 nights I should be up to speed.

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SeriousJay said:

My availabilities are during the evenings, every day except Saturdays. However, I'd rather not play more than 1-2 times a week. Sundays would be best. As stated in the other thread, I haven't played table top for many years now and have a limited knowledge of 4.0 but I'd be willing to learn, if given the chance to. After 1-2 nights I should be up to speed.

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All of my knowledge of 4e, besides reading over the source material briefly, comes from the Penny Arcade/PVP Dungeons and Dragons podcasts. If you haven't listened to them yet, it might help you get a gist of combat/skill mechanics.

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If I'm going to play, or even DM for that matter, it's going to have to be sometime between Monday and Friday evenings. Saturdays and Sundays just don't work for me because of work.
I can start probably any time after 3-4pm PST.

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I'd love to play. I haven't done so in a long time, and the only RPG books I have are Star Wars. Would I be too much of a burden?

I am free almost every week night Mon - Thurs after 5:30. I can't play on Fri-Sun, though.

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I am always available Monday and Wednesday after about 5 CDT

I am available in the evening most other days but its spotty because I have to work some nights.

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mon-fri: anytime after 4.

sat/sun: anytime.

schedule? pff.

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Weekends are good. Weeknights are fine after 6:30 p.m. Eastern for myself and my gal to play except for Monday.

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Wow, these schedules are working out better than I thought they might. I'll give you guys some more time to post (er, let others post) and after I'm done with my final Final (see wut I did thar?) I'll work up a table or something to see what will work best with the most people.

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Early Tuesday, Wednesday Friday mornings 4:00am till 10:00am
Friday night till Saturday Morning 10:00pm till 10:00 am
Saturday night till Sunday Morning 10:00pm till 10:00am

Ok I think thats converted correctly.My timezone makes my schedule all kinds of crazy.
You guys in Central Time are running Daylight savings arn't you? Thats what the internet said anyway.

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Though thinking about it, it would be nice to still have Friday Nights off. Why waste date night gaming?

I guess since we haven't had anyone volunteer to DM I'll take the reins.
1st Level characters. I'm allowing PHB, PHB2, and Martial and Arcane Power books. PC Monster races listed in the back of the Monster Manual 1 are okay to use. Just be aware that this D&D world will be pretty close to the default campaign setting "Beacon of Light" where 90% of the world is savage and monster ridden. So monster races may not be seen favorably.

We still need to decide on what day to have it on. As mentioned I need to avoid having it on Friday-Sunday.
So either Monday-Thursday and any time after 4pm PST (7pm EST) would be perfect.
I understand that some people will need to cancel showing up for a game from time-to-time, but please only agree to play if you can make a committment to show up for the majority of the games.

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Awesome. I'm going to gather up a list of people who've listed their schedules and what times the most of those people can play.

I'll post it shortly.

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Alright, after looking at people's schedules, here's what I've managed to come up with:

Every single one of us (Shawnacy, Gusto, Gurpel, Serious Jay, drawn_inward, Catafish, escushion and his fiance`, and me) can play on Wednesday and Thursday nights, starting at about 6 pm Central. (Go do your own calculations. But unless you lied to me, this fits within your timeframes.)

Unfortunately, gargoyle_eva, your time slots don't really work with any of ours.

So, excluding the DM, that's 8 people.

Shawnacy, it's up to you now: We can play with all 8, or you can opt to drop 2. We can draw random names or something if you want. I'm a bit biased, but I'm gonna go ahead and say since I set this whole thing up I'm in by default. >_>

Notes:
Dropping Gusto frees up Tuesday nights, same time.
Dropping Escushion and his fiance` frees up Monday nights, same time.

Not trying to be a dick, just saying that those two(/three?) are what keeps everyone from being free Mondays and Tuesdays.

So do we want to try 8 people (1-2 of which will probably be absent each week-- it happens) or would you like to select names, Shawn?

PEOPLE: GO CALCULATE WHAT TIME 6:00 PM CENTRAL IS FOR YOU, AND MAKE SURE IT FITS YOUR SCHEDULE. IF NOT, NOTE IT HERE. I say this because some of you said "evenings" and I have -no- idea when "evening" starts, so I estimated 5pm-ish.

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Of those 8 people who knows the system?

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By system, you mean how to play?

I know a bit, as I've been in Dave's game. I think most of the posters here are new to 4E, but I'll let them speak for themselves. As long as you have the books (*coughPMmecough*), it takes no time at all to learn the gyst of the game, as long as our DM is patient with us. :3 (You are patient, right Shawny? ^_^

Edit: For those who end up playing - You will need:

GameTable - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gametable

Ventrilo - http://www.ventrilo.com/

Microphone (Remember, press Ctrl to talk!)

Headphones (Shawnacy has stated that he hates echo. Get 'em!)

Not Necessary, but EXTREMELY HELPFUL: D&D Character Builder - http://www.wizards.com/download.asp?fil ... DDI_CB.exe
* Note: The Character Builder's demo only allows for creation of characters up to level 3, and does not include some of the more recent updates. Depending on a certain person's generosity, you may have access to it. (The full version requires a DDI subscription)

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Making a character isn't difficult. But we do have more players than I want to put up with. Sadly I think 6 is more than I can really handle, but I'd rather stick with that than tell more than 2 people they need to sit out.

Personally I don't like the idea of telling who can and who can't join us. If we have two people willing to sit out that would be the best way to do it. If I just pick out of a hat there is a chance that Escushion or his girlfriend might make the cut but the other won't.

I'm the DM. I play all the monsters. I don't want to be the monster in real life who cuts people from the game too.

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Agreed.

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Thinking of my schedule in advance, I think Thursday nights would be the best in the short term.

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Damn you evil americans and your time zone.A curse on both your characters.

It's all good doomdragon, I knew I was shit outta luck trying to match schedule's but thought I'd give it a chance anyway.

But if anyone is reading this and wants to play during my listed times lemme know.We could organise something.

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6pm Central is 7pm EST, and that's no problem for me. I know 4e enough that I have built a character in a it before and have a basic idea of how combat/skills work, but don't know enough to really min/max. The rest is all kinda carryover knowledge from 3.5.

EDIT: I should add that the system I have next to no knowledge of is Gametable, but I can figure that out with a bit of tinkering.

*hopes he doesn't get dropped*

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Gusto said:

EDIT: I should add that the system I have next to no knowledge of is Gametable, but I can figure that out with a bit of tinkering.

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Dice menu: You can make dice macros. It is nice for speeding up combat since you don't have to type /roll d20+[whatever bonus] every time you do something

Network: Host or join a game. Whoever is hosting have a TCP/UDP port open.

Pogs: What represents characters and monsters. Left click on them to change rotation, face size, name, and give attributes. Name and attributes are visible when first put up until you mouse over, and then you mouse over to see them again.

You can make your own pogs, put them into the pog folder, and then bring them into the game. Nice for spell effects that last multiple rounds.

On the map, it's just drag and drop. If you hold control, it doesn't make pogs snap to grid. Be aware of that if you talk while moving pogs.

If you have to roll something multiple times in short succession and you don't have a macro set up, you can press up and it'll put the command for the dice roll back in the chat bar.

Also, it will sometimes feel the dice roller is against you. This is completely normal.

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Allen said:

Gusto said:

EDIT: I should add that the system I have next to no knowledge of is Gametable, but I can figure that out with a bit of tinkering.

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Dice menu: You can make dice macros. It is nice for speeding up combat since you don't have to type /roll d20+[whatever bonus] every time you do something

Network: Host or join a game. Whoever is hosting have a TCP/UDP port open.

Pogs: What represents characters and monsters. Left click on them to change rotation, face size, name, and give attributes. Name and attributes are visible when first put up until you mouse over, and then you mouse over to see them again.

You can make your own pogs, put them into the pog folder, and then bring them into the game. Nice for spell effects that last multiple rounds.

On the map, it's just drag and drop. If you hold control, it doesn't make pogs snap to grid. Be aware of that if you talk while moving pogs.

If you have to roll something multiple times in short succession and you don't have a macro set up, you can press up and it'll put the command for the dice roll back in the chat bar.

Also, it will sometimes feel the dice roller is against you. This is completely normal.

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Thanks Allen!

Couple things:

1) HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT MY PUSH TO TALK BUTTON IS RIGHT CONTROL

2) As long as the dice roller can roll higher than 8 on a d20, I'll be better off than IRL.

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Gusto said:

2) As long as the dice roller can roll higher than 8 on a d20, I'll be better off than IRL.

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Don't count on it. (Sancasshole was rigging my rolls. I got ONE hit in. ONE. In all of TWO encounters. :explode: )

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PEOPLE: GO CALCULATE WHAT TIME 6:00 PM CENTRAL IS FOR YOU, AND MAKE SURE IT FITS YOUR SCHEDULE. IF NOT, NOTE IT HERE. I say this because some of you said "evenings" and I have -no- idea when "evening" starts, so I estimated 5pm-ish. (Weds and Thurs)

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Eastern that would be 7PM my time, this is perfect for me. Both days are fine.

I already got Ventrilo, have a microphone/headphone, I just installed Gametable and I'll start trying to catch up with the 4.0 rules, I'm intrigued now. :aaahhh:

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Wahad said:

Gusto said:

2) As long as the dice roller can roll higher than 8 on a d20, I'll be better off than IRL.

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Don't count on it. (Sancasshole was rigging my rolls. I got ONE hit in. ONE. In all of TWO encounters. :explode: )

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I think the only damage I got in was the guaranteed start of turn damage from Flaming Sphere.

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Anyone calling dibs on any classes yet?

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Not yet- we're still waiting to see who gets in. Right now we're waiting for two people to voluntarily drop, but I feel that's unlikely, so we may have to randomize it somehow.

However, if you want to go ahead and start making characters, I don't see any reason not to. The DDI Character Builder will keep your character in line and do a lot of calculations for you, including generating your Power Cards, which are wonderful.

I'm thinking I want to go Wizard for this game, but I'm a Wizard in the other one and I'd hate to feel like I'm doing the same stuff. I guess I could be a different kind of Wizard, but golly I love blasting things to shit with fire.

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Ya, I've been fooling around with the character builder and it's incredible. I wish I had this when I was playing D&D religiously before many years ago.

Now that I got into it, I really would like to avoid being dropped and I'm fine on taking on a more "support" character. Something along the lines of a cleric is where I'm heading for but once again, until the final group is done, I'll wait before making any decision. I'll still create a few mock characters though. Anyone willing to look over my character sheet when I'm done? I'd appreciate a second opinion.

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Perhaps try a warlock or sorcerer, doom.

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I also have character builder. Is there a way to transfer characters between copies? I'll need a copy of everyone's sheet in some form or another anyway.

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Shawnacy said:

I also have character builder. Is there a way to transfer characters between copies? I'll need a copy of everyone's sheet in some form or another anyway.

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People can send the file through. I believe the pm system here accepts the files as attachments.

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Alright.
Official game time will be:
THURSDAYS at 6PM Central (4pm PST, 5pm MTN, and 7pm EST) Sorry European players... I have no idea what that calculates to.
Typical game length will probably be about 4 hours.
Confirm below this post if you can make the game. If we have more than 6 players we will have to do a drawing for sub spots.

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Confirmed.

I might have to go to text only chat as to not disturb anyone after 11pm, but [I hope] that's not a big deal.

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Confirmed.

7 central seems kinda late, 'specially for people in EST, but if that's what we're going with I'm fine with it. (Just noting that Dave's game runs 5 hours and we rarely get much more than an enounter in.)

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How late are we planning to play, if we're starting at 8PM EST, 7PM CT?

I'd rather not be dropped, but I will admit I'm a newb, though I know a lot of the basics. My fiance has played D&D before and 4e a couple times.

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I will need to be out the door at 10pm EST.
So at most that's 5 hours of play time.

We can start an hour earlier if prefered.

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Confirmed.

That's 8PM Eastern. I'll be there!

1. When do we expect to finish?
2. Should we start prepping some character sheets now? If so, I'll be inclined to play Cleric as stated before.
3. It would be cool if we can start sharing our character sheets with others, just so that we can see who'll be what and whatnot. I could setup an FTP of sorts!

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I personally would vote for an hour earlier, but it's obviously up to you. You're the DM boss man.

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Giving some people time to confirm. As stated we may need to cut people.
I don't want to punish anyone for being the last to confirm, so long as they do so within the next 20 hours or so.

If you want to start making a character that's fine.
Level 1. No magic items to start off with.
Available books.
PHB, PHB2, Martial Power, Arcane Power.
I think Divine Power comes out next month. But we'll be hopefully starting before then.

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doomdragon6 said:

I personally would vote for an hour earlier, but it's obviously up to you. You're the DM boss man.

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This.

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Shawnacy said:

I think Divine Power comes out next month.

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It hits shelves in July. This month is MM2, no core releases set for June.

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Either time is fine with me.

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That time works for me but like I said Thursdays are kind of hit and miss because my work schedule changes every week, so if you want to drop me in favor of someone who can make it every week that would be understandable.

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Changed the time to an hour earlier.

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Alright I just rolled up a Halfling Warwizard. This DDi Character Creator takes a little getting used to.

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Gusto said:

Alright I just rolled up a Halfling Warwizard. This DDi Character Creator takes a little getting used to.

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:explode:

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Allen said:

Gusto said:

Alright I just rolled up a Halfling Warwizard. This DDi Character Creator takes a little getting used to.

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What.

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Let me guess, you wanted to roll as Halfling Warwizard as well?

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he plays one in Dave's game.

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I'm currently making a Doppelganger Sorcerer.

Hey Shawn, do we get a Background bonus (since the Character Builder lets us choose one) or would you like us to ignore that?

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Man, what are the odds of two people coming to the Halfling wizard conclusion? If going just off the phb, probably 1/64.

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Man, what are the odds of two people coming to the Halfling wizard conclusion? If going just off the phb, probably 1/64.

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Hehe, I dunno man. I've always had a soft spot for halflings, and my last four characters have been human. As for the war wizard - I've never played an offensive caster, and thought I'd give it a shot.

I was originally planning on making a cleric but I think Serious Jay called that one. No biggie, I'm easy.

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*hopes someone goes meatbag shield for the group*

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SeriousJay said:

*hopes someone goes meatbag shield for the group*

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Yer telling me.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Errik Valenti, level 1
Halfling, Wizard
Build: War Wizard
Arcane Implement Mastery: Wand of Accuracy

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 12, Dex 16, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 12.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 9, Con 12, Dex 14, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 10.


AC: 14 Fort: 11 Reflex: 14 Will: 13
HP: 22 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 5

TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana, Nature, Insight, Diplomacy.

FEATS
1: Ritual Caster
1: Halfling Agility

POWERS
1, At-Will: Scorching Burst
1, At-Will: Magic Missile
1, Encounter: Burning Hands
1, Daily: Freezing Cloud
Spellbook: Flaming Sphere

ITEMS
Spellbook, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Arcane Implement, Wand, Adventurer's Kit, Scroll of Tenser's Floating Disk, Scroll of Comprehend Language, Scroll of Animal Messenger, Quarterstaff
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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What I do suggest though is that everyone creates at maybe 2 character sheets so that we have more options when it'll become the time to choose?

I PMed our DM about a storage website I setup for us where we can upload a copy of our character sheets and have extra information to be shared and downloadable/uploadable in there. I think we can get a lot of information shared between the players and refine our characters as go time comes closer!

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doomdragon6 said:

Hey Shawn, do we get a Background bonus (since the Character Builder lets us choose one) or would you like us to ignore that?

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I mirror this question as well.

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Here's my first draft of my Elf Cleric : (any feedback is appreciated - i was contemplating playing a lazer cleric)

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Saryon Swiftfeet, level 1
Elf, Cleric
Build: Devoted Cleric

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 11, Dex 18, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 13.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 11, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 13.


AC: 17 Fort: 10 Reflex: 14 Will: 16
HP: 30 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 7

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +4, Diplomacy +6, Heal +9, Insight +9, Perception +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana -1, Bluff +1, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance -1, History -1, Intimidate +1, Nature +6, Stealth +3, Streetwise +1, Thievery +3, Athletics -1

FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Warrior of the Wild

POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Lance of Faith
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric encounter 1: Divine Glow
Cleric daily 1: Beacon of Hope

ITEMS
Ritual Book, Hide Armor, Morningstar, Longbow, Holy Symbol, Adventurer's Kit
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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So we're looking at a Cleric, Wizard, and Sorcerer right now. The next 3 of you to "confirm" might want to consider some melee classes. =P

[strike:1oveguvz]Bah, I can't decide between Dragon Magic or Wild Magic. Really, Dragon Magic has everything I want, but bases extra damage and AC on strength. Wild Magic is unpredictable (duh) and has way more stuff to keep up with than I care for (Pretty much every attack determines a random outcome for something I do, and I don't care to keep track of it) but it bases extra stuff on Dexterity. I'd much rather my character be based around Dexterity than Strength, especially since it'll be a Doppelganger, which will naturally be inclined towards Stealth and whatnot.

I could pester our gracious DM to make an exception (Dexterity for Dragon Magic) but that's breakin' the rules and really isn't fair. =P[/strike:1oveguvz]

Bahhh, decisions decisions..

Edit: Went with Wild.

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doomdragon6 said:

So we're looking at a Cleric, Wizard, and Sorcerer right now. The next 3 of you to "confirm" might want to consider some melee classes. =P

Bah, I can't decide between Dragon Magic or Wild Magic. Really, Dragon Magic has everything I want, but bases extra damage and AC on strength. Wild Magic is unpredictable (duh) and has way more stuff to keep up with than I care for (Pretty much every attack determines a random outcome for something I do, and I don't care to keep track of it) but it bases extra stuff on Dexterity. I'd much rather my character be based around Dexterity than Strength, especially since it'll be a Doppelganger, which will naturall be inclined towards Stealth and whatnot.

I could pester our gracious DM to make an exception (Dexterity for Dragon Magic) but that's breakin' the rules and really isn't fair. =P

Bahhh, decisions decisions..

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Maybe if Shawnacy okays the background bonuses, he will allow you to make tat change instead?

/shrug

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Gusto said:

Allen said:

Man, what are the odds of two people coming to the Halfling wizard conclusion? If going just off the phb, probably 1/64.

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Hehe, I dunno man. I've always had a soft spot for halflings, and my last four characters have been human. As for the war wizard - I've never played an offensive caster, and thought I'd give it a shot.

I was originally planning on making a cleric but I think Serious Jay called that one. No biggie, I'm easy.

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Flaming Sphere and Second Chance will be some of your best friends.

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Good question.

Even at that I'm sorta choosing which background would serve the most mechanical benefit for my cleric.... *mumbles* choices choices...

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Allen said:

Gusto said:

[quote="Allen, who is Quiet":j5wx3x33]Man, what are the odds of two people coming to the Halfling wizard conclusion? If going just off the phb, probably 1/64.

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Hehe, I dunno man. I've always had a soft spot for halflings, and my last four characters have been human. As for the war wizard - I've never played an offensive caster, and thought I'd give it a shot.

I was originally planning on making a cleric but I think Serious Jay called that one. No biggie, I'm easy.

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Flaming Sphere and Second Chance will be some of your best friends.[/quote:j5wx3x33]

Flaming Sphere has been a friend of mine for a while. And I took a feat to buff my Second Chance.

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But has it been your best friend?

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Having second thoughts about being a Doppelganger. They're pretty underpowered in terms of bonuses (only speak one language, don't get extra skills, very little versatility, etc etc) and their Change Shape ability is purely for appearances only. Granted, this could potentially accrue some interesting situations, but the lack of extra bonuses/powers/abilities makes me hesitate.

If not a Doppelganger, I would probably go with a Drow.. The only reason I'm hesitating is because I compared the character to Alius, my character for Dave's game, and he has a wealth of versatility and options, whereas this Doppelganger just kinda sits there.

Oh well! Screw it. Doppelganger it is.

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Confirming myself and my fiance.

I am a Dragonborn Warrior, she's an Eladrin Warlock.

EDITS:

Mine:

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Grendmir Akara, level 1
Dragonborn, Fighter
Build: Battlerager Fighter
Fighter Talents: Battlerager Vigor

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 17, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 8.


AC: 12 Fort: 16 Reflex: 10 Will: 10
HP: 31 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 10

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate, Endurance, Athletics.

FEATS
1: Power Attack

POWERS
1, At-Will: Reaping Strike
1, At-Will: Brash Strike
1, Encounter: Covering Attack
1, Daily: Comeback Strike

ITEMS
Chain (10 ft.), Leather Armor, Greatclub, Grappling Hook, Adventurer's Kit
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Hers:

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Aurora, level 1
Eladrin, Warlock
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Charisma
Eldritch Pact: Fey Pact

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 14, Dex 12, Int 16, Wis 10, Cha 17.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 8, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 17.


AC: 15 Fort: 12 Reflex: 14 Will: 15
HP: 26 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Diplomacy, Intimidate, Religion, History, Arcana.

FEATS
1: Improved Misty Step

POWERS
1, Encounter: Witchfire
1, Daily: Prophecy of Zhudun

ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit, Leather Armor, Fine Clothing, Tent, Everburning Torch
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======



Let us know if any of the items we've chosen aren't kosher.

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*looks at the AC 12 and whimpers*

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SeriousJay said:

*looks at the AC 12 and whimpers*

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yeah, no kidding. Leather armor simply won't cut it for a fighter. The way the class works, you're supposed to take the attacks. They should have a chance of missing you, escushion. Plate or Scale are really your only two options.

Another tip. You'll probably never notice the slight rules change for 4e: Shields give their bonus to both AC and Reflex. It can be a handy little boost and a decent reason to forego the 2 handed weapon.

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Mind you, this will depend completely on how our GM wants to set us up. Will our LVL 1 newbies start with gear? If so, how limiting can it be? How much gold do we start with? A couple of extra guidelines on how to build our characters (using backgrounds...etc) would also help us get the ball started before go time so that when we meet we should have done some of the grunt work already.

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Sorry, I thought it was more appropriate to start low and work up through getting loot. I have no problem upgrading to something tougher.

I have a feeling we're all going to get tossed an Adventurer's kit, some gold, and maybe one or two items of our own choices, but these are really drafts until Shawnacy tells us what he wants.

BTW Any tips for me are appreciated. Upgraded to Scale armor and added a shield. AC is 18.

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escushion said:

Grendmir Akara, level 1
Dragonborn, Fighter
Build: Battlerager Fighter
Fighter Talents: Battlerager Vigor

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 17, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 8.


AC: 12 Fort: 16 Reflex: 10 Will: 10
HP: 31 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 10

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate, Endurance, Athletics.

FEATS
1: Power Attack

POWERS
1, At-Will: Reaping Strike
1, At-Will: Brash Strike
1, Encounter: Covering Attack
1, Daily: Comeback Strike

ITEMS
Chain (10 ft.), Leather Armor, Greatclub, Grappling Hook, Adventurer's Kit

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None of the powers you have selected have the INVIGORATING keyword, thus negating the usefulness of this build.

Gruebeard said:

yeah, no kidding. Leather armor simply won't cut it for a fighter. The way the class works, you're supposed to take the attacks. They should have a chance of missing you, escushion. Plate or Scale are really your only two options.

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Wearing anything more than chainmail negates the benefits of the Battlerager build. Also change your weapon to match it as well.

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The build thing is really just matching a template, so I got rid of that entirely. I changed the talent to something simpler (1-Handed Weapon.) AC is now 18.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Grendmir Akara, level 1
Dragonborn, Fighter
Fighter Talents: One-handed Weapon Talent

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 17, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 8.


AC: 18 Fort: 16 Reflex: 11 Will: 10
HP: 31 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 10

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate, Endurance, Athletics.

FEATS
1: Power Attack

POWERS
1, At-Will: Reaping Strike
1, At-Will: Brash Strike
1, Encounter: Covering Attack
1, Daily: Comeback Strike

ITEMS
Chain (10 ft.), Grappling Hook, Adventurer's Kit, Warhammer, Light Shield, Scale Armor
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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escushion said:

Sorry, I thought it was more appropriate to start low and work up through getting loot. I have no problem upgrading to something tougher.

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That's not the 4e way. :slywink: Plate only costs 50 gold and you start with 100 by standard rules. Well, "working up" now means getting the elite version of the various types of armor.


And I, uh, wasn't really suggesting a shield for you. Just pointing out that the choice between that or a two handed weapon feels a lot more equal now, and it was something to keep in mind if you start finding throughout the game that your Reflex is just way too low. It may not come up enough to matter, and it looked like you wanted to play with the 2-handed weapons

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HCGLNS said:

Gruebeard said:

yeah, no kidding. Leather armor simply won't cut it for a fighter. The way the class works, you're supposed to take the attacks. They should have a chance of missing you, escushion. Plate or Scale are really your only two options.

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Wearing anything more than chainmail negates the benefits of the Battlerager build. Also change your weapon to match it as well.

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Ah right. Missed that. Should clarify my advice to say a defender should wear the heaviest armor possible for the build. In Dave's game the Defenders have been dropping like flies - three times in one encounter even! . . . although we haven't been the ones to actually die. I'm seriously contemplating Toughness.

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Well, I chose a versatile weapon for if I change my mind. I'd like to be useful.

And until the game actually starts, I can fix any given thing. Plate will put me starting at 19 AC.

I appreciate everyone's input. Every little bit helps.

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Scale and a light shield is cool. No check penalty makes that choice interesting compared to plate and a heavy shield.

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Gruebeard said:

Scale and a light shield is cool. No check penalty makes that choice interesting compared to plate and a heavy shield.

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Didn't know that about the plate; I did take the light shield to avoid it though .

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Much nicer build, you could change around your feat selection but it works as it stands. I'd go with a longsword for the extra +1 to hit instead of the extra damage, but thats all just personal preference.

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Ah right. Missed that. Should clarify my advice to say a defender should wear the heaviest armor possible for the build. In Dave's game the Defenders have been dropping like flies - three times in one encounter even! . . . although we haven't been the ones to actually die. I'm seriously contemplating Toughness.

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Thats more likely the growing period for a group of players learning how to play together as a team or adapting to 4E. My first few sessions the fighters fought like it was 3rd ed. and were dropping like flies as well.

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doomdragon6 said:

I'm currently making a Doppelganger Sorcerer.

Hey Shawn, do we get a Background bonus (since the Character Builder lets us choose one) or would you like us to ignore that?

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Yes you can get the background bonus.

As far as gear you get the starting 100g and everything is book price to start.
Fighters really do need something better than leather if you don't have the dexterity or intelligence to cover.
I recommend Platemail but at least Chainmail if you want to keep some gold. I'm not going to be unreasonable with handing out treasure, so in all honestly you probably won't need more than 10g on your person as we start. It's not like you are going to run into an Inn that's charging platinum per night.

Group make-up wise I know that it's imperative to have a Defender and a Leader. Once those are filled you get a Striker. Controller is the last role you need to worry about filling.
With a group of six I would recommend two Defenders, two Slayers, a Leader, and a Controller.
Success in a campaign really is a matter of what tactics people use and how well you work as a group. But your odds are much more in your favor if you have all the appropriate roles covered. I'm not going to be restrictive on your choices. I just think it's fair to give you advice on the subject beforehand.

I'll go over what people have listed before and compile a list of the group. I'll post it up in a few hours. Gotta head to work.

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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Serin Legrange, level 1
Doppelganger, Sorcerer
Spell Source: Wild Magic

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 14, Wis 12, Cha 18.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 16.


AC: 13 Fort: 10 Reflex: 13 Will: 17
HP: 22 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 5

TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +7, Dungeoneering +6, Thievery +10, Bluff +11

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Diplomacy +4, Endurance, Heal +1, History +2, Insight +3, Intimidate +4, Nature +1, Perception +1, Religion +2, Stealth +3, Streetwise +4, Athletics -1

FEATS
Level 1: Linguist

POWERS
Sorcerer at-will 1: Burning Spray
Sorcerer at-will 1: Chaos Bolt
Sorcerer encounter 1: Whirlwind
Sorcerer daily 1: Dazzling Ray

ITEMS
Dagger (2), Adventurer's Kit, Climber's Kit, Thieves' Tools, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Flute, Fine Clothing, Pouch, Belt (empty) (2), Flask (empty) (2), Candle (4), Oil (1 pint) (4), Lantern
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

I'll send you the Character Builder file in PM so you can have that info.

Note: Yes, my character is female. I don't wanna hear it. :tongue: I've always been one to say "I won't play a female in games like D&D," but here, with a Doppelganger, it seems to work better.

Another Note: My inventory list above includes Fine Clothing-- since she's a shapeshifter, Serin probably needs various changes of clothes. I figure the Basic Clothing can count for her usual garb (below), peasant, and commoner clothes. (I'll spend another 2 gp if you think it's necessary.) The Fine Clothing, to me, would cover one or two different fancier outfits for males and females. Say, a nice dress or noble attire. Let me know if you would rather it cover just one thing only. If that's the case Serin's gonna have to steal some peoples' clothes for her disguises.

This is her natural form:


In towns, she'll most likely assume the guise of an elf or human or dwarf or something to avoid trouble.

My own summary, I feel it might be better than the one above:

Name: Serin Legrange (Sare-en Leh-graynge)
Race: Doppelganger
Background: Cormyr (Wheldon) - Add Thievery to skill list, +2 to Thievery checks, +2 to saving throws against charm effects
Class: Sorcerer (Wild Magic)

Wild Magic Provides:
- Chaos Burst: My first attack roll during each
of my turns determines a benefit I gain in that
round. If I roll an even number, I gain a +1
bonus to AC until the start of my next turn. If I
roll an odd number, I make a saving throw.
- Chaos Power: I gain a bonus to the damage
rolls of arcane powers equal to my Dexterity modifier. (+3)
- Unfettered Power: When I roll a natural 20
on an attack roll for an arcane power, I slide the
target 1 square and knock it prone after applying the
attack’s other effects.
- When I roll a natural 1 on an attack roll for an
arcane power, I must push each creature within 5
squares of you 1 square.
- Wild Soul: When I finish an extended rest, roll
a d10 to determine a damage type.
d10 Damage Type
1 Acid
2 Cold
3 Fire
4 Force
5 Lightning
6 Necrotic
7 Poison
8 Psychic
9 Radiant
10 Thunder
I gain resist 5 to that damage type until the end
of my next extended rest.
While I have resistance to that damage type,
my arcane powers ignore any target’s resistance to
that damage type up to the value of my resistance.

Stats:
HP: 22
Speed: 6
Initiative: +3
AC: 13
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 13
Will: 17

Ability Scores:
STR: 8
CON: 10
DEX: 16
INT: 14
WIS: 12
CHA: 18

Skills:
3 Acrobatics
7 Arcana
-1 Athletics
11 Bluff
4 Diplomacy
6 Dungeoneering
0 Endurance
1 Heal
2 History
3 Insight
4 Intimidate
1 Nature
1 Perception
2 Religion
3 Stealth
4 Streetwise
10 Thievery

Bold - Training

Feat: Linguist (Good for shape changers!)
- Dwarven
- Elven
- Goblin

Powers:
Level 1 - At-Will: Burning Spray
Level 1 - At-Will: Chaos Bolt
Level 1 - Encounter: Whirlwind
Level 1 - Daily: Dazzling Ray

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Sorry for the spam posts, but a few more notes:

GameTable uses pogs to represent characters/creatures/etc. The program has a library of pogs to choose from, but you can also make your own, like so:



I will be using this one for Serin.

If you want to make your own pog, it just needs to be a 64x64 image. I think you can upload it into GameTable yourself and have everyone else see, but Shawn might need it himself if he's DMing.

You can also set up your Dice Macros in GameTable. You might want to look into this before we start, or at least consider it after a game.

Speaking of which, Shawn, should we set up a time for us all to test Vent/GameTable to make sure everyone can connect and knows how everything works? This could even be just a half hour before our scheduled game time. First game'll probably be working stuff out anyway.

Also, Dave has some kind of Initiative generator. It saves time, so you might want to ask him about it if you're interested.

Sorry if I sound like I'm trying to take control-- just bringing up potential issues as they come into my head.

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The more someone does the leg work the better.
Coming up with an adventure, putting it together, and keeping it going over a long period of time is the real time waster.

I don't forsee too many problems with the technology. But just make sure everyone has gametable downloaded (which I do not yet but will this weekend). How do you connect together into a single game?
We'll probably try to get together at least 30 min before the game just to get things fine tuned.

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All you do it open GameTable (comes in .jar or .bat forms-- I run .jar) and go to Network -> Host (You'll have an IP and Port number.)

We join it by going to Network -> Join and typing in the IP and Port you provide us.

Actually, anybody can host it, because everyone has equal "rights" over the board. Anyone can modify it, edit pogs, etc. When you get a chance to play with it, just mess around and see what you can do. It's really easy to set up a quick battle screen or scenario. You could also PM Dave asking for advice.

For dice rolls, you type things like '/roll d20 + 4' (minus quotes) and it'll do the die roll +4 for you.

You can set up macros to do a die roll at the press of a button. Like, I can create this macro:

'd20 + 4' and then name it "Arcane Attack Roll: Charisma vs Will"

So then I'd go to the macro menu, click "Arcane Attack Roll: Charisma vs Will" and it'd do the roll for me.

Plus, if you go into GameTable and type /help it'll give you a list of commands.

Supposedly you can set up maps ahead of time and load them, but Dave had lots of trouble with that. Might want to ask him about that too.

----

Btw, I just wanna go ahead and thank you for DMing us, Shawn.

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Is there a pog generator somewhere?

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doomdragon6 said:

Btw, I just wanna go ahead and thank you for DMing us, Shawn.

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No problem.

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Yes, thank you very much. I'm looking forward to this. I'll send you our character files once things are hammered out.

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Gusto said:

Is there a pog generator somewhere?

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There is, but I couldn't figure it out at all. And that's to say, it didn't make any sense. However, supposedly it worked for everyone else in Dave's game (unless they all just photoshopped it like I did and didn't say anything).

Anyway, link: http://www.rptools.net/download/zip/tok ... .0.b28.zip

G'luck.

Also, this might be Dave's Initiative program I was talking about: http://www.rptools.net/download/zip/ini ... 1.1.b6.zip

Edit: TokenTool sets the pog's default size to 128x128. This is a Large Creature pog size. For your character, be sure to set it to 64x64. It can be resized in GameTable, but it has to be resized each time we put our pogs down. (Which would be like... once/twice each game. :eyeroll: )

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Yeah, that Token Tool is really very simple to use. You start by dragging a picture from another program (your web browser, for example) into it. You then select your pog border and image size, zoom the picture in and out and pan it around until you get it looking like you want. Save it to your Gametable/pogs folder as a .png file (IIRC) and it'll show up as available the next time you start up Gametable.

Shawnacy said:

The more someone does the leg work the better.

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Hells yeah. Doom's doing great. He wouldn't even be close to stepping on my toes if I had been the one DMing.

One more point about connecting to Gametable: The person hosting the game needs to open up a port through his router, set up the game to use that port when hosting, and everybody else needs to specify that port when connecting.

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So, so far we have a

Halfling Warwizard,
A Changeling Sorcerer,
A Dragonborn Warrior
A Eladrin Warlock,
An Elf Cleric

I miss anyone?

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Apologies again for newbness, but... I'm a little confused on how Basic Attacks and my Dragon Breath work. Do I roll a d20 and add the Str modifier?

It says:
Dragon Breath
Attack: Strength + 2 vs. Reflex (I'm choosing Strength)
Hit: 1d6 + Con modifier

Does it mean use my Strength Modifier and then +2, added to a d20? Or is to hit actually using a d6? Sorry again. I worked out the macros for my other attacks, but this one's confusing me and I don't want to throw a d20 in there improperly.

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For purpose of attack rolls you will roll a d20 then add your (strength Mod) +2.
Since firebreath is an area effect ability you will need to roll it for every target within the aimed area.
If your roll meets or beats the reflex score of the target you hit them with the ability and they take damage.

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This pog generator doesn't crop the image! Must... have... perfect... pog.

Halfling Warwizard,
A Changeling Sorcerer,
A Dragonborn Warrior
A Eladrin Warlock,
An Elf Cleric

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Pew Pew Galore!

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So it looks like I am going to be working next Thursday, so I am just going to bow out from the game unless you want to change when we would play to Wednesday.

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My fiancee has decided to roll an Elven Ranger instead (dual wield specialty) and will happily join me on the front lines. Too many magic users.

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Well that's 5, so technically we have a full team (3 Magic users and 2 Martial - We gonna get raped).

Actually, wait, what does Dave's game have... 2 Wizards, a Paladin, a Fighter, a Cleric, and a Rogue. I guess that's actually pretty balanced.

As for you, Catafish, everyone's scedules were free Wednesday same times as well. So if Shawn wants to, Wednesdays would probably work, but as always, completely up to him.

I'd also like to say that I'm only playing a Sorcerer for the hell of it-- I'll tell you right now, the Wizard is by far a more favored class for me. Way, way, way more versatile. (So many choices for powers, including Ritual Casting and Cantrips, plus way better feats.) The Sorcerer... Well.. Much less. =P HOWEVER, I get +7 damage to nearly every attack I can do, so that's pretty kickass. (+4 Charisma mod, +3 Dexterity mod with my class feature)

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Yep, we definitely need a 6th! Weren't we 8 at some point?

We really need to see how the 6th places their character, to see how party composition is. As well as the Ranger reroll. So that we can adjust our builds a bit to accommodate things a bit better during our adventures.

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Question!

Is there a specific stat block (before racial modifiers) we should be using? I'm doing a little tinkering and wondered if I'm out of bounds in some places.

(If you can't tell, I'm pretty excited. Thanks Shawn, this is gonna be cool. )

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Gusto said:

Question!

Is there a specific stat block (before racial modifiers) we should be using? I'm doing a little tinkering and wondered if I'm out of bounds in some places.

(If you can't tell, I'm pretty excited. Thanks Shawn, this is gonna be cool. )

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Each class has a stat they rely heavily upon. Seek to maximize that first. Thenlook at the classes 2nd stat, then try to balance the 3 stat blocks to even out your defenses.

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HCGLNS said:

Gusto said:

Question!

Is there a specific stat block (before racial modifiers) we should be using? I'm doing a little tinkering and wondered if I'm out of bounds in some places.

(If you can't tell, I'm pretty excited. Thanks Shawn, this is gonna be cool. )

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Each class has a stat they rely heavily upon. Seek to maximize that first. Thenlook at the classes 2nd stat, then try to balance the 3 stat blocks to even out your defenses.

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Yeah I'm just wondering if there's a specific array we're supposed to be using.

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As in the point buy system? Those are free to choose from or create your own. The only advice I would offer to your character would be to flip your starting CON and DEX scores. Your INT will be used for your defenses instead of DEX, so would be better to swap it to one of the other defensive stats.

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Updated summary, including new background, re-arranged stats, new last name, etc.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Errik Loreno, level 1
Halfling, Wizard
Build: War Wizard
Arcane Implement Mastery: Wand of Accuracy
Background: Street Urchin

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 15.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 9, Con 14, Dex 12, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 13.


AC: 14 Fort: 12 Reflex: 14 Will: 14
HP: 24 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana, Nature, Insight, Diplomacy.

FEATS
1: Ritual Caster
1: Halfling Agility

POWERS
1, At-Will: Scorching Burst
1, At-Will: Magic Missile
1, Encounter: Burning Hands
1, Daily: Freezing Cloud
Spellbook: Flaming Sphere

ITEMS
Spellbook, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Arcane Implement, Wand, Adventurer's Kit, Quarterstaff, Ritual Book, Animal Messenger, Tenser's Floating Disk, Comprehend Language
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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My gal's forum registration is awaiting approval (since when did we have that?) so I'm posting her new character:

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Adia Il'Yuirwood, level 1
Elf, Ranger
Build: Two-Blade Ranger
Fighting Style: Two-Blade Fighting Style
Background: Aglarond

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 13.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 16, Con 10, Dex 14, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 13.


AC: 15 Fort: 14 Reflex: 14 Will: 13
HP: 27 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Perception, Acrobatics, Endurance, Athletics, Stealth.

FEATS
1: Wood Elf Agility

POWERS
1, At-Will: Twin Strike
1, At-Will: Hit and Run
1, Encounter: Dire Wolverine Strike
1, Daily: Boar Assault

ITEMS
Longsword (2), Longbow, Adventurer's Kit, Leather Armor, Arrows (30)
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
She implores that I post her background bits too.

Personality Traits:

Adia, much like the wood from which she hails, is a wild, tempermental being with no patience for lies and mind games. She can be rather fussy, outspoken and stubborn at times, feeling the need to express her thoughts and feelings to those she spends her time with. She has been criticised in the past for being too open and honest, but has also been seen as being strangely charismatic for it as well.

Mannerisms and Appearance:

Bright, piercing, icy blue eyes; long, straight white hair just past the shoulders; long, elegant limbs and a lithe, thin, sinewy body. Walks silently and gracefully, almost as if she is stalking quarry at all times; pantherlike. It seems at times that Adia's body is so trained in hunting for survival that it forgets how to relax.

Character Background:

Adia of the Yuirwood (which is deep in the heart of Aglarond) has lived in quiet solitude amongst her family of close-knit wood elves all her life. Hunting and gathering to survive, Adia and the entire Il'Yuirwood clan have become well known in those parts for being expert survivalists. A year ago, after Adia and her brother, Feriel, had returned home from their bi-annual trip to the Aglarond market for a few basics, they had found their forest dwelling completely abandoned as if their family members had never even existed. The whole clan had seemingly evaporated into thin air. Sinking into intense anger and grief, Feriel spent months hunting and searching for clues as to where his family had gone while Adia remained in the wood fending for herself. Upon returning home after 7 months of fruitless searching, Feriel displayed characteristics of a being possessed. Whether it was due to the intense emotional strain on his body and mind, or due to some supernatural force, Adia could not tell. He no longer slept or ate and he began to conduct strange rituals to gods Adia had never even heard of, attempting to bargain for powers and information far beyond his ken. Highly disturbed by this, Adia begged her brother to stop and tried to coax him back into some semblance of sanity, but it was far too late. After only a few weeks of this behavior, Feriel committed suicide in front of his sister by laying his head in a bear trap. Mortified and overtaken with sadness, Adia buried her brother and left the Yuirwood behind, trying to find a new life for herself and perhaps clues as to what had destroyed her family in the process.

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Five players is a good start. I'll plug everyone's characters into the Character Builder tomorrow when I have some time. It looks like a good combo of characters.

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Finalized mine:

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Grendmir Akara, level 1
Dragonborn, Fighter
Fighter Talents: One-handed Weapon Talent
Background: Luruar

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 19, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 17, Con 16, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 8.


AC: 18 Fort: 16 Reflex: 11 Will: 10
HP: 31 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 10

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate, Endurance, Athletics.

FEATS
1: Arkhosian high Style

POWERS
1, At-Will: Reaping Strike
1, At-Will: Brash Strike
1, Encounter: Covering Attack
1, Daily: Lasting Threat

ITEMS
Grappling Hook, Adventurer's Kit, Warhammer, Light Shield, Scale Armor
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Backgrounds gives me rerollable History check and additional language (I choose Elven).

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Bleargh to voice chat and GameTable heh. If it was MapTool and chat only...

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Shawnacy said:

Five players is a good start. I'll plug everyone's characters into the Character Builder tomorrow when I have some time. It looks like a good combo of characters.

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Should we upload the character file to the storage site or?

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SeriousJay said:

Shawnacy said:

Five players is a good start. I'll plug everyone's characters into the Character Builder tomorrow when I have some time. It looks like a good combo of characters.

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Should we upload the character file to the storage site or?

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You can. People have been pming me digital copies as well.

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Cool, did you give them the details yet? It should be functional.

I also updated my character some, even started working on a background. I'll upload my character sheet right now!

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Saryon Swiftfeet, level 1
Elf, Cleric
Build: Devoted Cleric

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 12, Dex 18, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 12.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 12, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 12.


AC: 17 Fort: 11 Reflex: 14 Will: 16
HP: 24 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +4, Perception +11, Heal +11, Insight +9

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana -1, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance, History -1, Intimidate +1, Nature +6, Stealth +3, Streetwise +1, Thievery +3, Athletics -1

FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Combat Medic

POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Lance of Faith
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric encounter 1: Divine Glow
Cleric daily 1: Beacon of Hope

ITEMS
Ritual Book, Hide Armor, Morningstar, Longbow, Holy Symbol, Adventurer's Kit, Ale (Pitcher), Mystic Salves (Heal)
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion
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Hey peeps, I could use some advice:

First of all, I'm hating how somewhat limited my character is-- but I really want to try a Doppelganger to see how that goes, so I'm not really bitchin'.

My problem:

I have 3 skills that I can train in. Arcana is automatic, so I have 2. I want Serin to have Thievery, but that's not on her class list. So, I have to gain Thievery in one of two ways:

1) Use a feat to get Thievery Training (Whether by a multiclass or Skill Training or whatever)
2) Use a background to get Thievery added to the skill list and get +2 Thievery checks and +2 charm save rolls.

I'm currenty doing #2. This puts my Thievery at 10, which isn't bad. Plus, since we don't have a Rogue, we might need it.

However, I'm strongly looking at the Auspicious Birth/Born Under a Bad Sign background, which replaces Constitution with my highest Ability Score to determine hit points. This would start me off with 30 HP, instead of 22, which isn't bad. My play style is "Stay the fuck away from people" but in Dave's game I've had situations where I was knocked unconscious in one hit. The only reason my character wasn't killed outright in that battle was thanks to Dave's generosity (a zombie decided not to eat me). I would like to avoid one-hit-wonder scenarios, and I feel like extra HP might help me out.

Thing is, only the background can do that for me, whereas I can get Thievery Training and + 2 Thievery checks via Feats down the road.

My current Feat is Linguist, which doesn't impact battles at all, but will be very helpful for a Doppelganger. (Changing into a dwarf or elf might not do me much good if I can't speak the languages.)

But, I can always get Linguist later when it might seem more necessary.

So, my question:

Should I change my Background (Currently Add Thievery to Skill List, +2 Thievery checks and +2 Charm save rolls) to the background that gives me 30 HP total, and change my Linguist feat to a feat that will give me Thievery? (Probably Pact Initiate.)

This would free up a natural Skill to train in, and at Level 2 I could take Linguist if I felt I needed it, or some other feat.

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You could multi-class to thief to get thievery training and sneak attack 1/day.

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Just to add to your confusion, doom, I'll point out that the feat Toughness will give ya 5 hit points now and 5 more at each tier.

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And if you multi-class thief, you could train Bluff (if it's one of the sorcerer skills), you can feint in combat to make an enemy grant you combat advantage. Then, if they're close enough and you have the right weapon, free sneak attack.

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Yeah, saw that. I could get the Background AND Toughness Feat to get 35 HP to start! :sobad:

But, I prob'ly won't.

If I were to multiclass, I'd probably go with Warlock and get Eyebite as an Encounter power. Sneak Attack requires me to be close to people, and golly I hate that. Plus, my spells will do way more normally (+7 DMG right off the bat) than my dagger could ever do with a Sneak Attack.

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Yeah, Warlock does work better for what you want. Plus, since Eyebite is against will, it'll be hitting a lot more than the sneak attack vs. AC.

Just tossing it out there, though.

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Howdy! This is Esc's [strike:3iax9qrf]evil slave driver[/strike:3iax9qrf] fiancee. Just thought I'd pop in, say hello, all that jazz. On top of my stats and whatnot, here's my character picture! (^_^) Enjoy.


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Adia Il'Yuirwood, level 1
Elf, Ranger
Build: Two-Blade Ranger
Fighting Style: Two-Blade Fighting Style
Background: Aglarond

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 10, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 13.

Starting Ability Scores
Str 16, Con 10, Dex 14, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 13.


AC: 15 Fort: 14 Reflex: 14 Will: 13
HP: 27 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Perception, Acrobatics, Endurance, Athletics, Stealth.

(Lemme add in my highest skill values for your entertainment!)
Acrobatics: 8
Athletics: 8
Dungeoneering: 3
Endurance: 5
Heal: 3
Insight: 3
Nature: 5
Perception: 11 (HELL YAH!)
Stealth: 8
Theivery: 3

FEATS
1: Wood Elf Agility - When rolling an acrobatics or athletics check, automatically treat a d20 roll of 2 - 7 as if you had rolled an 8. A natural 1 is still treated as a natural 1.

POWERS
1, At-Will: Twin Strike
1, At-Will: Hit and Run
1, Encounter: Dire Wolverine Strike
1, Daily: Boar Assault

ITEMS
Longsword (2), Longbow, Adventurer's Kit, Leather Armor, Arrows (30)
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Alignment: Unaligned
Diety: Melora
Height: 5'8"
Age: 43 (out of roughly a 200 year life span)

Personality Traits:

Adia, much like the wood from which she hails, is a wild, tempermental being with no patience for lies and mind games. She can be rather fussy, outspoken and stubborn at times, feeling the need to express her thoughts and feelings to those she spends her time with. She has been criticised in the past for being too open and honest, but has also been seen as being strangely charismatic for it as well.

Mannerisms and Appearance:

Bright, piercing, icy blue eyes; long, straight white hair just past the shoulders; long, elegant limbs and a lithe, thin, sinewy body. Walks silently and gracefully, almost as if she is stalking quarry at all times; pantherlike. It seems at times that Adia's body is so trained in hunting for survival that it forgets how to relax.

Character Background:

Adia of the Yuirwood (which is deep in the heart of Aglarond) has lived in quiet solitude amongst her family of close-knit wood elves all her life. Hunting and gathering to survive, Adia and the entire Il'Yuirwood clan have become well known in those parts for being expert survivalists. A year ago, after Adia and her brother, Feriel, had returned home from their bi-annual trip to the Aglarond market for a few basics, they had found their forest dwelling completely abandoned as if their family members had never even existed. The whole clan had seemingly evaporated into thin air. Sinking into intense anger and grief, Feriel spent months hunting and searching for clues as to where his family had gone while Adia remained in the wood fending for herself. Upon returning home after 7 months of fruitless searching, Feriel displayed characteristics of a being possessed. Whether it was due to the intense emotional strain on his body and mind, or due to some supernatural force, Adia could not tell. He no longer slept or ate and he began to conduct strange rituals to gods Adia had never even heard of, attempting to bargain for powers and information far beyond his ken. Highly disturbed by this, Adia begged her brother to stop and tried to coax him back into some semblance of sanity, but it was far too late. After only a few weeks of this behavior, Feriel committed suicide in front of his sister by laying his head in a bear trap. Mortified and overtaken with sadness, Adia buried her brother and left the Yuirwood behind, trying to find a new life for herself and perhaps clues as to what had destroyed her family in the process.

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Hullo! Nice to finally see you actually exist. Woo!

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*giggles* Aw, well, nice to meet you as well.

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doomdragon6 said:

I have 3 skills that I can train in. Arcana is automatic, so I have 2.

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???

I'd say stick with the background allowing you to train in Thievery and the linguist feat. Then at 2nd level take the Jack of All trades feat.

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ah jeez, you guys post too fast. this thread stayed at 1 page for like 3 days and then from the 8th to the 9th it gained 3 pages.

alright, so i have gametable, vent and the character creator, but is there a point? i saw you guys antagonizing about how many people we could have, and tbh i am a noob. should I bow out or is there still room?

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We could probably use another Martial character if you wanna fill our 6th slot. It's up to you, but we have 3 fragile Magic characters already (was 4 until faline up there graciously became a melee ranger).

We just need another person to protect our squishy bodies from harm.

Plus, 6 people fills helps in the event someone doesn't show up, which happens frequently as far as I can tell.

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Howdy! This is Esc's [strike:acupdxcs]evil slave driver[/strike:acupdxcs] fiancee. Just thought I'd pop in, say hello, all that jazz. On top of my stats and whatnot, here's my character picture! (^_^) Enjoy.

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Adia Il'Yuirwood, level 1
Elf, Ranger
Build: Two-Blade Ranger

TRAINED SKILLS
Perception, Acrobatics, Endurance, Athletics, Stealth.

(Lemme add in my highest skill values for your entertainment!)
Acrobatics: 8
Athletics: 8
Dungeoneering: 3
Endurance: 5
Heal: 3
Insight: 3
Nature: 5
Perception: 11 (* YAH!)
Stealth: 8
Theivery: 3

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Hullo! Welcome! Looks like a great character roll.

BTW, since we're both playing elves and I'll be using a couple of hunter feats along the way to improve my survivability and inflict some extra damage to help the slayers at long range attacks, I'll be picking up WOTW at LVL 2 and I was thinking that maybe one of us can take the nature skill training and the other one perception for the benefit of the party (i'll have the same value of nature or perception at LVL 2 with 12). If you agree, one of us could switch. Would nature serve a hunter better than a cleric? Let me know.

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We could probably use another Martial character if you wanna fill our 6th slot. It's up to you, but we have 3 fragile Magic characters already (was 4 until faline up there graciously became a melee ranger).

We just need another person to protect our squishy bodies from harm.

Plus, 6 people fills helps in the event someone doesn't show up, which happens frequently as far as I can tell.

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Ya, I definitely would like another player, preferably another martial so that in case someone can't make it we're not short.

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....are monks considered martial?

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Gurpel said:

....are monks considered martial?

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Yes they are.

At high levels, with a proper build, they can be the alpha and the omega.

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Hmm. the character builder doesnt seem to let me choose monk. instead, i think i'll go with a warlord.


Alright, here is my first attempt. i know there are probably a dozen things wrong with it, so point them out and i'll try to fix them.

i'll come up with a name/personality/backstory once i finish the build.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
level 1
Dragonborn, Warlord
Build: Tactical Warlord
Commanding Presence: Tactical Presence

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 13.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 11.


AC: 13 Fort: 15 Reflex: 13 Will: 12
HP: 25 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 7

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +8, Endurance +6, Athletics +9, History +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics, Arcana +3, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering -1, Heal -1, Insight -1, Nature -1, Perception -1, Religion +3, Stealth, Streetwise +1, Thievery

FEATS
Level 1: Tactical Assault

POWERS
Warlord at-will 1: Brash Assault
Warlord at-will 1: Commander's Strike
Warlord encounter 1: Hammer and Anvil
Warlord daily 1: Lead the Attack

ITEMS
Chainmail, Heavy war pick, Adventurer's Kit
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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Hm. I hadn't looked before, but Warlord actually looks pretty cool.

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Is Monk even available?
Wasn't aware that it was.

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Nope. I thought it was, but i guess 4e doesnt have monks or something. I went to warlord instead.

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Gurpel said:

Nope. I thought it was, but i guess 4e doesnt have monks or something. I went to warlord instead.

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Not yet. Player's Handbook makes mention of the monks in the power source section (ki for monks) and says this power source and others will be discussed in future handbooks.

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Hey Shawn, I've made the following changes:

Background:
Was: Cormyr (Wheldon) [Add Thievery to Skill List, +2 Thievery checks, +2 Saving Throws against Charm effects)
Is Now: Cat Burglar [Add Athletics and Thievery to Skill List, +1 to Thievery, +1 to Athletics]

Feat:
Was: Linguist
Is Now: Pact Initiate (Fey Pact) [Training in Warlock Skill (Bluff), Warlock At-Will as Encounter Power (Eyebite)]

Skills:
Had Training In: Bluff, Dungeoneering, Thievery
Now Training In: Athletics, Bluff, Dungeoneering, Thievery

Power:
Add Eyebite / Encounter

I think that's all the changes.. I can send you a new Builder file if you want, or you can change it yourself, whichever's easiest.

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Gurpel said:

Hmm. the character builder doesnt seem to let me choose monk. instead, i think i'll go with a warlord.


Alright, here is my first attempt. i know there are probably a dozen things wrong with it, so point them out and i'll try to fix them.

i'll come up with a name/personality/backstory once i finish the build.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
level 1
Dragonborn, Warlord
Build: Tactical Warlord
Commanding Presence: Tactical Presence

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 18, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 13.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 13, Dex 10, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 11.


AC: 13 Fort: 15 Reflex: 13 Will: 12
HP: 25 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 7

TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +8, Endurance +6, Athletics +9, History +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics, Arcana +3, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering -1, Heal -1, Insight -1, Nature -1, Perception -1, Religion +3, Stealth, Streetwise +1, Thievery

FEATS
Level 1: Tactical Assault

POWERS
Warlord at-will 1: Brash Assault
Warlord at-will 1: Commander's Strike
Warlord encounter 1: Hammer and Anvil
Warlord daily 1: Lead the Attack

ITEMS
Chainmail, Heavy war pick, Adventurer's Kit
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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Fantastic looking build, but the DDI has purchased chainmail for you but not wearing it yet. You could also buy a light shield. Once you are wearing the chainmail your AC will become 16, 17 if you choose to add a shield.

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Awesome, another Dragonborn with me at the front .

I'm also a newb, Gurp, so don't feel bad. Yes, your asses are guarded by newbs, except Faline.

I'm excited about all this.

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HCGLNS said:

Fantastic looking build, but the DDI has purchased chainmail for you but not wearing it yet. You could also buy a light shield. Once you are wearing the chainmail your AC will become 16, 17 if you choose to add a shield.

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....
really?

well okay. thats great i guess. I wasn't expecting my build to be functional let alone good. a few things:

-chainmail has an ac of 6, wouldn't i have ac 19 with it on?

-should i go for 1hand+shield? I was kind of liking the 2h war pick.

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Awesome, another Dragonborn with me at the front .

I'm also a newb, Gurp, so don't feel bad. Yes, your asses are guarded by newbs, except Faline.

I'm excited about all this.

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yeah, the dragonborn's ability bonuses were perfect for an inspiration warlord so i rolled with it. time to absorb some damage, lol.

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I'm doing 1h + shield. If you want to go the same route, that's cool, but don't feel like you have to if you wanna use the 2h pick.

Equip your chainmail in character builder, and then we'll see what your AC is for certain.

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BTW, since we're both playing elves and I'll be using a couple of hunter feats along the way to improve my survivability and inflict some extra damage to help the slayers at long range attacks, I'll be picking up WOTW at LVL 2 and I was thinking that maybe one of us can take the nature skill training and the other one perception for the benefit of the party (i'll have the same value of nature or perception at LVL 2 with 12). If you agree, one of us could switch. Would nature serve a hunter better than a cleric? Let me know.

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Let me start off by saying thank you for your kind welcome. ^^ Now, as I have had quite a bit of experience in both playing D&D as well as DMing, I wish to say that, "no, let's keep our skills where they are." And let me tell you why! Firstly, I carefully picked out my skill set to match my character and her needs. Secondly, just because 2 characters have similar skills does not mean it is a bad or disadvantageous thing to the party. Characters sometimes get split up, or sometimes one character can absolutely fail their roll and the other can do better. Really, having two high perception skill levels are fabulous for this very reason. You might not hear it, but I may! This could save lives in game, or at least a lot of hassle. Remember, just because you have a high skill level, that does not mean the dice gods will approve. ^_^

Again, thank you for your input, though, but I will be keeping my skills where they are and suggest you do the same. :slywink:

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AC: 16 Fort: 15 Reflex: 13 Will: 12
HP: 25 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 7

HCGLNS was right. i guess some sort of AC occlusion happened.

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Originally the DDI had you wearing no armour, so you gained your INT/DEX bonus to defense.
Once you don heavy armour you lose your this bonus. The trade is the additional bonuses from the armour.
And if you go with a light shield you can still have it equipped and swing the pick with 2 hands, you would just lose its defense bonus while you are doing so.

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falineowlight said:

Again, thank you for your input, though, but I will be keeping my skills where they are and suggest you do the same. :slywink:

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That's cool beans.

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Tonight I'm gonna make my macros, pog, and write out my backstory. It's gonna be kinda interesting because my character is essentially a minor NPC from the campaign I'm DMing, and I'm gonna write as though he began adventuring after my campaign ends. If that makes sense.

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My only real complaint with my character is that I wanted her powers to be ice-based, but then all the ice powers sucked, so I went with random crap that sounded better.

But at least now I have a full range of powers. :uhhuh: I have a close burst fire attack, a single-target ranged attack that has the potential to hit other targets, and a ranged burst attack (that grants combat advantage and knocks people prone!).

I also really wanted Ice Javelins as my daily, cuz hurling 3 shards of ice into an opponent sounded badass (and at 1d10 each, that's a potential for 30 damage +5 ongoing, which is in line with 2 other powers with a potential of 30 or 36). BUT, I looked into it a bit more and you can only hurl the shards at 3 different enemies. And 1d10 on 3 different enemies isn't really worth it, seeing as my other regular attacks (including an at-will) can do 1d10 on multiple enemies as well.

So as cool as it is, it isn't worth having as a daily. So I got Dazzling Ray instead, which does 6d6 + my 7, so it has the potential to do 43 points of damage, which in all honesty could be a boss-killer. And it does radiant, so if we ever find a lich or something? Hah!

Plus my skills are abysmal. I'll probably need to get Jack of Trades, and I've been juggling trained skills around since I've made the character (coming to rest on Bluff 11, Thievery 9, Athletics 5, and Dungeoneering 7, which is all pretty low for Trained Skills).

But that's what I get for making a Doppelganger. I'm HOPING that I'll have enough opportunities to use the shape changing to our advantage that it'll be worth it. If nothing else, I can always make her leave the party and re-roll.

Anyway, I need like 2 more feats to make my character feel whole. I at least need Linguist as a character trait. Battle stuff'll have to wait I guess. (Most of the Sorcerer feats aren't that great anyway.)

I wonder if there are any rules about learning a language from another character. Like, you're all very different people that speak different languages. One character could, like... spend 10 extended rests / days learning a new language from a party member. After the 10 rests, the player could roll a d20. If he/she gets higher than a d10, the language is learned, and if not, you roll a d20 each day until you get higher than 10.

Granted, 10 days is a very short time to learn a language-- but it also makes more sense than immediately learning 3 languages when you level up and take Linguist. =P

Agh, wanna play!! XD Very excited Shawn, thanks again.

PS: Guess I'll have to write a backstory-- how are we all going to meet? Dave (sorry I keep mentioning his game but it's the only D&D I've ever played) brought us all to the same town via faulty teleportation gates. Are we doing the usual 'meet at a tavern' thing or...?

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Where the &^$* have I been? I totally missed this thread and missed out on a game. *sigh* PM me if you have the Char Gen and don't have the upgrade or need access to the books.

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doomdragon6 said:

Granted, 10 days is a very short time to learn a language-- but it also makes more sense than immediately learning 3 languages when you level up and take Linguist. =P

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Don't consider it as being immediate. All that time before you select the feat you've been exposed to those languages, have been learning them, and even speaking in them with your allies who have the language. You just haven't been able to use it in adventure-useful ways. Once you select the feat, you just happen to have filled in the gaps needed to properly say what you need to in order to cintimidate that bad guy or read that strange message.

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Mm, good point.

And Ed, I'd figured you'd seen this thread and just weren't intersted! It'd be interesting having you on the other side of the DM screen, so to speak. Guess we're full now though.

PS: I still keep altenating between Ed and Dave for you.

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Edrondol said:

Where the &^$* have I been? I totally missed this thread and missed out on a game. *sigh* PM me if you have the Char Gen and don't have the upgrade or need access to the books.

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You can always roll a character and be close to go if something happens last moment.

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Hehe, poor Dave. I too know the pain of always being a DM, never a player.

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IMAGEDUMP:

Errik Loreno, of the Lorenos:





Freezing Cloud underlay:



And I think I'm gonna steal Allen's Flaming Sphere image.

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That's fine. Grue is the one who uploaded it.

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Damn. And I still think that looks awesome for the minute of work I put into it.

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Aw, dammit!

I just made ALL my macros for every conceivable roll I could think of (all my attacks including melee, all my damage, initiative, every skill check) but didn't realize I had to SAVE my macros.

Now I gotta start over.

EDIT: Fixed and triplesaved.

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Really? You had to save?

I never had to save. Weird. (Though I have now. )

Also, I took your Freezing Cloud image and added some feathering and transparency to it-- just because I'm a dork and I think it'll look neater in the game. I'm not going to be a jackass though- you don't have to use it.



It looks better in the map than it does on here though.

Also, don't forget to put your pogs/underlays in their respective folders in the gametables folder!

Edit: Also made a version that has 60% transparency and, when used as a pog (pog folder), can be placed over existing pogs to make it look like they're trapped inside the cloud instead of standing on top of it. I like the effect.



/too much free time

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Ah yes, that does look nice.

I was just going with my 30 second PSP-job.

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Oh, you made it? Nice. I figured you'd just googled a cloud and found it. Good job man. Didn't mean to edit your work.

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Oh, you made it? Nice. I figured you'd just googled a cloud and found it. Good job man. Didn't mean to edit your work.

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Hey no problem.

The only thing is that if you use the cloud as a pog, and place it over top of players, won't it be harder/more annoying to move the characters since you'd need to move the cloud first?

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doomdragon6 said:

Oh, you made it? Nice. I figured you'd just googled a cloud and found it. Good job man. Didn't mean to edit your work.

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Hey no problem.

The only thing is that if you use the cloud as a pog, and place it over top of players, won't it be harder/more annoying to move the characters since you'd need to move the cloud first?

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Ah, you're right. I thought locking it would help, but you can't move the pogs underneathe. Oh well. Underlays it is.

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I just looked at freezing cloud- it says that those affected are "subject to another attack." What does that mean exactly? That the caster can make an attack as soon as the creature is in the cloud? Can anyone make an attack? *no comprende*

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Anyone who enters the cloud, or starts their turn in it is subject to it's effects.

Gotta love dailies.

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So the progress so far:
Looks like we have our party of six.
Our first run will be Thursday at 5:30 central. (Starting 30 min early to test gametable and set up).
Adventure is still being outlined but I have a pretty good idea where I'd like the campaign to go.

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From the Journal of Errik Loreno

My name is Errik, and I am one of the younger cousins of the respected and feared Loreno Family. At least we used to be. Things have been in a state of disarray since that rampaging druid was finally brought to justice. A "party of righteous adventurers" saw fit to end his destruction of the villages around here, which is kind of okay, but mostly cuts off the Family's sources of income. If we are unable to assert ourselves into positions of power in a village on the brink of destruction, what power, or influence, can the Family claim to have? This is the way I was raised! It is the way we were all raised, going back to at least Grandmother Calli's generation.

Once Grandmother Calli reformed, and promised to disband the Loreno Syndicate in gracious debt to the oh-so-righteous adventurers, things have been kind of... dicey. Individual households, and even sometimes the individuals therein, are disagreeing on the Family's best courses of action. Some are so set in our established methods of extortion and exploitation that they cannot fathom another way of life. Others are excited to see what the Family can give back to the community under the guise of Good, convinced things don't need to change too much. A few were so new to the lifestyle that they are genuinely willing to try to adapt to a path of good (as I've taken to calling it).

Some call me optimistic, but I count myself among those few.

I must travel with a small group, aided by my fledgling arcane abilities. The road will be difficult, and oftentimes very confusing, but I must prove to the Family and to myself that the Path of Good can be a satisfying, prosperous, and lucrative lifestyle. I have grown up knowing only greed, treachery, and paranoia. I must do my best to learn the meanings of generousity, peace, trust, and compassion. Words that I was raised to view with derision.

This journal will chronicle my path of redemption, and hopefully guide The Family to follow the Path of Good themselves, in the event that it can provide for our.... established lifestyle expectations.

I only hope I am not too far gone to recognize the Path.

- E. Loreno
For The Good Of The Family

(OOC: Errik is a young cousin of a fairly well-known halfling crime family. Soon after reaching an age where he could help in exploiting the innocent, a high level party of adventurers forced the syndicate to disband. They're still a quasi-feared family of criminal, evil halflings, but many are trying to deal with NOT BEING EVIL for the first time in their lives.

This is going to be a fun character to play, I think. An evil character who his trying earnestly to redeem himself for the sake of bringing his family back to prosperity and renown again. I hope to play him as pretty socially awkward at first - curious, optimistic and CLEARLY trying to understand, but bascially not knowing the difference between right and wrong. )

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So the progress so far:
Looks like we have our party of six.
Our first run will be Thursday at 5:30 central. (Starting 30 min early to test gametable and set up).
Adventure is still being outlined but I have a pretty good idea where I'd like the campaign to go.

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Could always use pre-planned adventures.

I don't know how that works. Is it just each city has 'quests' you can go on, and some might lead to bigger things?

I know as a DM you make up what happens as it happens, but how do those pre-planned ones work?

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Shawnacy said:

So the progress so far:
Looks like we have our party of six.
Our first run will be Thursday at 5:30 central. (Starting 30 min early to test gametable and set up).
Adventure is still being outlined but I have a pretty good idea where I'd like the campaign to go.

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Could always use pre-planned adventures.

I don't know how that works. Is it just each city has 'quests' you can go on, and some might lead to bigger things?

I know as a DM you make up what happens as it happens, but how do those pre-planned ones work?

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Pre-planned are convenient. Assuming you are refering to the store bought adventures.
They have everything mapped out and NPCs designed. The only problem with them is they don't work if someone has already read or run the adventure.

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We're all noobs here, so...

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We're all noobs here, so...

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Well that will certainly make things easier when I don't feel particularly creative.

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I haven't played pen and paper D&D since 3.0 (except from video games and whatnot). I've been playing catchup since I signed up (page 273 of the player's handbook so far) and I can tell you for a fact, I wouldn't know any quests from those adventure books, lol.

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doomdragon6 said:

We're all noobs here, so...

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Well that will certainly make things easier when I don't feel particularly creative.

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Absolutely! I also use them as kind of tutorials for new players. I just kind of edit them so that they tie to a city of my own creation, introduce tem to a couple NPCs in town, and basically gain them a party identity and contacts for the next quests.

EDIT: Also, I added Errik's journal entry above. I'd be interested to know what you guys think of my character concept.

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Shawnacy said:

doomdragon6 said:

We're all noobs here, so...

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Well that will certainly make things easier when I don't feel particularly creative.

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Absolutely! I also use them as kind of tutorials for new players. I just kind of edit them so that they tie to a city of my own creation, introduce tem to a couple NPCs in town, and basically gain them a party identity and contacts for the next quests.

EDIT: Also, I added Errik's journal entry above. I'd be interested to know what you guys think of my character concept.

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Seems solid to me. I don't even have a background for my character yet. Just a shapechanging Sorcerer rogue-wannabe so far. =P

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The Ongoing Chronicles of Serin Legrange

"These are the journal entries written by none other than Legrange herself," the Guard Captain, Bristol, boomed. "They chronicle nearly every charge placed against Legrange, and then some, in great detail. It is by these documents that we may conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt her guilt, and thereby convict Legrange."

The journal entries of which the guard spoke were indeed Serin's, and all but some were meticulously bound into a book with lavish black hardcovers. The afformentioned few removed were torn unceremoniously from their bindings to be presented as evidence. A few were selected specifically to represent a number of charges; others torn at random to further prove Serin's changeling heritage. They read as such:

Journal Entry 41

I've been outed again. They found the real stablemaster. I've avoided capture thus far, but that bloody gang has done me no good. Once the guards found the missing stablemaster, they knew who was in charge.. They took half the gang into custody and I've already been sold out. I put my neck on the line each day and they betray me. Bah. Such is the life of hired help, I suppose. Their leader is still on the loose, but I shan't be working for him again. They already know what I am. I need to get out of this city and find somewhere new once more. I think this time I'll head out west.

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Journal Entry 45

I've been travelling with this group of wandering bards for days. They're a lively bunch, but the stories and tunes get old after the first day or so. I've assumed the guise of an Elven merchant, travelling west to peddle my wares. The bards tell me they travel this route all the time, so I can be reasonably assured I will reach the city in due haste. One of the bards, Elwyn, gave me her flute as a gift, and has taught me to play. My tunes are no masterpieces, but the bards seem pleasantly amused, so it'll suffice in knowing that my playing does not sunder one's ears. Rarely does one see such kindness in this world. However, I can only wonder if I would receive such kindness in my true form.

Dusk is starting to fall, so I will continue my chronicles at a later date.

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Journal Entry 13

I've finally gotten my hands on some fine clothing. I spotted a man as he was leaving his house for work. I immediately shapechanged to take on his appearance and knocked on the door to his house. His wife let me right in! I took an "extra change of clothes" and was on my way. I grew worried when she asked if I was wearing this outfit when I left before, but then she waved it off as her mind slipping. Phew. I managed to hide one of her dresses between the clothes I took, so now when I masquerade as a noble of either gender, people might take me seriously.

Adapting to this constantly changing lifestyle has been difficult, but I believe that I am finally getting the hang of it. I do still pine for the days back with my family, in my home village, but I can't go back. I'll find my parents and I'll get revenge on the swine that attacked us!

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Journal Entry 35

I've been hired by a mob boss. Not the most reputable of clients, but lucrative. I'm to take on the guise of the town stablemaster. The gang wants to smuggle in and out their goods, and they want to do it for free. Transporting as much as they want as far as they want is a financially tasking endeavor. I, however, posing as the stablemaster, can manipulate the records. They're to abduct him, and I am to live as he does. I will eat what he eats, live where he lives, and socialize where he socializes. A tough task, but I believe I can pull it off. The pay is more than I've gotten in a long time. It's a lot, but merely a 20th of what the mob would be spending on carriages.

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Journal Entry 1

Our village was attacked last night! A storm of troops-- I don't know whose or why-- raided our home last night. They appeared to be populated by a group of paladins- I didn't recognize their crest. It all happened so fast. They just came in and started burning homes, they didn't care if it was a halfling's, elf's, or changeling's! But I know they were looking for us. Once the panic ensued in the streets, a few of their clerics cast a spell that let them see right through us. There were only 12 of us changelings in the village, and they went after every single one, ignoring the other races. They got my parents, and I don't know what happened to the rest! I'm the only one that got away as far as I know.

Why? Why did this happen? We were all doing so well-- we were being so careful not to let on our true identity. There must've been a traitor. There has to have been! How else could they know we were there?? It had to have been Bertrow. He always did talk about he was going to move onto something better. He must've cut a deal with someone.. I just know it. I'm going to wring his kneck if I ever find him.

... But... How will I find him?...

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Journal Entry 2

I've decided to embark on my own. My old village is no longer safe. I'm going to try to find out who those attackers were, and why they targeted us. But first I need to increase my abilities. I've spent my whole life growing up in that village, posing as an elf, learning Sorcery under my parents in secret. Now, I can be whoever I want to be. An elf, a dwarf, a blacksmith, a fighter.. The only thing I can't be.. is myself.

I'm going to find my parents and try to find a place for myself in the world as well. Hopefully one day we changelings will be accepted. But for now, I must lay low.

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The Captain of the Guard grinned to himself and turned to his lieutenant. "Lieutenant Jarek. Retrieve the prisoner and bring her back to me. I don't care what she looks like, she will stand trial." The lieutenant nodded with a short bow and disappeared from the room.

Stepping casually down the hall, he whistled gleefully to himself. A few cells down, he heard the muffled cries of a man in need of help. Casting his eyes aside, he smirked devilishly at the half-naked Lieutenant Jarek, bound and gagged behind bars. His muffled shouts escalated as he watched a spitting image of himself, in his guard armor no less, strut by unobstructed. The man's screams were lost to the guard as he shut the heavy metal door behind him.

Breathing in deeply as he stepped into the night air, Lieutenant Jarek gave a quick glance about to ensure that it was clear. And with a hearty baritone chuckle, his frame slowly shrank away, his flesh turning ashen, his hair growing longer and gaining a silvery sheen. His eyes grew larger and lost all color, ensnared by milky whiteness. By the time the transformation was complete, Serin's manly chuckle had softened into a high-pitched giggle. Casting off her guard helmet, the changeling swiftly assumed the form of a halfling and disappeared into the night.

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Sorry for the long post. But got very bored. TELL ME IF YOU THINK IT'S INTERESTING. Though it's very typical, yes, I know. But it at least opens doors for a quest later if need be.

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I like it! I especially like how you presented the entries out of order, and I have to admit, my eyes widened when you mentioned a mob boss. Just because it sounded like you had connected your story loosely to mine.

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It actually crossed my mind, but I figured I had no idea what your mob was like or where they lived or what they did. If you want, we could arrange to be loosely connected. It'll probably -never- come up in-game though.

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It actually crossed my mind, but I figured I had no idea what your mob was like or where they lived or what they did. If you want, we could arrange to be loosely connected. It'll probably -never- come up in-game though.

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Well the way I'm hoping it will work (for you, maybe, as well as some NPCs) is that they'll recognize my last name and just assume the worst. At least until my character makes any progress in redeeming the Family.

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I'm just looking up other players' powers in the PHB and seeing what they do and I have a couple notes:

-Brash Assault (Warlord) has the potential to be deadly with this group, seeing as I, at least, can use Magic Missile as a ranged basic attack.
-Warlords in general are pretty beefy for stacking huge amounts of damage.

-Boar Assault (Ranger) is a pretty beefy daily in order to start an encounter against a Big Bad.

-I can't currently access any Sorceror materials.

-Divine Glow (Cleric) is awesome for turning the tide of a battle in our favour.

-Lasting Threat (Fighter) is HUUUUUGE.

-I'm gonna loooooove Freezing Cloud.

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Gusto said:

-I'm gonna loooooove Freezing Cloud.

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evil smiley? you better watch where you aim that cloud or i will have to calculate how many squares i am able to throw a halfling >>

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Here's an update on my character with some background details :

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Saryon Swiftfeet, level 1
Elf, Cleric
Build: Devoted Cleric

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 12, Dex 18, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 12.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 12, Dex 16, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 12.

AC: 17 Fort: 11 Reflex: 14 Will: 16
HP: 24 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 6

Background : Detective

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +4 (why is this int based?)
Heal +11
Perception +12
Insight +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3
Dungeoneering +4
Nature +6
Stealth +3
Thievery +3

FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Combat Medic

POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Lance of Faith
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric encounter 1: Divine Glow
Cleric daily 1: Beacon of Hope

ITEMS
Ritual Book, Hide Armor, Morningstar, Longbow, Holy Symbol, Adventurer's Kit, Mystic Salves (Heal), Arrows (120)

RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Brew Potion

Alignment: Good
Diety: Ilmater
Height: 5'9"
Age: 55

Personality Traits:

Saryon is generally the quiet type by but is definitely not shy. He doesn't tend to initiate conversations unless needed and generally appears calm and stoic in most situations. His companions will know that when the going gets though, he's steady and reliable. Highly adaptable and open-minded to situations, Saryon is self-assured in his ability. He is also very inquisitive by nature. Lastly, he is honest and kind by nature he does enjoy listening to a good story, especially those of humourous content.

Mannerisms and Appearance:

Saryon has dark blond hair and dark blue eyes, dulled by the grim experiences he's endured in life. He usually dressed in a pale blue and grey tunic and trousers over his armor. He is clearly not fond of robes. He wears an amulet around his neck, with a symbol representing his deity Ilmater. With an engraving of a broken crutch and sunflowers representing that this adorned is a Follower of the Unhindered Path. He is poised in his continual movement and is constantly focused on the environment around him. He rarely speaks in elvish and tends to speak only in common. He will however pray in elvish and when he's using holy spells. Like his deity, Ilmater, Saryon doesn't get angry easily but when he does, he becomes fearsome in battle. He is angered by savage cruelty and those who inflict suffering, particularly upon children.

Character Background:
Saryon was born in Shroudmist Grove, an elven enclave located within the haunted Shroudmist Forest. The Grove was created to protect the gates that make trade between The Feywild and The Middle World possible, and as a haven and refuge for foundlings of all races. A great many races are represented in the Grove from elves to the eladrin, orcs, shifters, some of the goblinoid races, and a smattering of gnomes and changelings who've escaped from the purges in the Feywild. Saryon was a gifted young elf who's god given abilities made him very popular to the others in the grove. One day, he was challenged by an eladrin boy, a boy who Saryon always despised and the sentiment was very much returned. The contest was sent off and they had to "venture" into the haunted forest to retrieve a wooden statue that was hidden in one of 6 possible locations. Before the contest was off, Saryon secretly went into the eladrin boy's backpack and removed some pints of oil so that he would be forced to give up his search and return home, in defeat. The day went by and after visiting his 3rd cave, Saryon found the treasure and returned victoriously. The eladrin boy, never came back. A search party was sent out and they found him in a cave, mutilated and half eaten by a brown bear after his torch went out and was stuck deep in a dark cave without any oil and took the wrong turn out.

Saryon grew very remorseful by his actions and felt a lot of grief for his actions. He spent his days alone, unable to cope with life with the action he took. One day, a gnome cleric name Wrynn approached Saryon and taught him the ways of Ilmater, teaching to him that perhaps he could atone for his sin by praying to his god and perhaps he will listen to him. And with this, Saryon starting his path being a cleric of Ilmater and consequently took his oath as a Follower of the Unhindered Path. It's been over 35 years and Saryon is now a seasoned cleric who's been to many places, helping where he can.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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So just to be clear, we're using the same Gametable and Vent servers as Dave's game, right?

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So just to be clear, we're using the same Gametable and Vent servers as Dave's game, right?

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Yes.

And since you were curious earlier, here are the powers I've taken:


Burning Spray Sorcerer Attack 1
You fling your arm in a wide arc, casting liquid fire at your foes.
At-Will ? Arcane, Fire, Implement
Standard Action Close blast 3
Target: Each creature in blast
Attack: Charisma vs. Reflex
Hit: 1d8 + Charisma modifier fire damage.
Level 21: 2d8 + Charisma modifier fire damage.
[strike:12at55pu]Dragon Magic: The next enemy that hits you with a
melee attack before the end of your next turn takes fire
damage equal to your Strength modifier.[/strike:12at55pu]

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Chaos Bolt Sorcerer Attack 1
A bolt of many-colored light leaps from your hand and screams
toward an enemy’s head.
At-Will ? Arcane, Implement, Psychic
Standard Action Ranged 10
Primary Target: One creature
Primary Attack: Charisma vs. Will
Hit: 1d10 + Charisma modifier psychic damage.
Level 21: 2d10 + Charisma modifier psychic damage.
Wild Magic: If you rolled an even number for the
primary attack roll, make a secondary attack.
Secondary Target: One creature within 5 squares of the
target last hit by this power
Secondary Attack: Charisma vs. Will
Hit: 1d6 psychic damage. If you rolled an even number for
the secondary attack roll, repeat the secondary attack.
You can attack a creature only once with a
single use of this power.

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Whirlwind Sorcerer Attack 1
You create a small whirlwind that buffets creatures and knocks
them off their feet.
Encounter. Arcane, Implement
Standard Action Area burst 1 within 10 squares
Target: Each creature in burst
[strike:12at55pu]Storm Magic: You can choose not to target a creature in
the origin square of the burst.[/strike:12at55pu]
Attack: Charisma vs. Fortitude
Hit: 1d10 + Charisma modifier damage, and you knock
the target prone.

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Dazzling Ray Sorcerer Attack 1
A brilliant beam lances out to strike your foe and befuddle it.
Daily ? Arcane, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action Ranged 10
Target: One creature
Attack: Charisma vs. Will
Hit: 6d6 + Charisma modifier radiant damage.
Wild Magic: If you rolled an even number on the attack
roll, the target takes a penalty to attack rolls against you
equal to your Dexterity modifier (save ends).
Miss: Half damage.

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I really wanted something more interesting for the Daily, but in the end I think huge damage will help us more than my other options.

Also, keep in mind that all of these get a +7 to damage right off the bat.

The only thing is, you guys are going to have to stay out of my way.

... Have fun!

Also, Gusto, the wizard is pretty much the most versatile class in the game. USE IT! Oh, I'm going to PM you the Arcane Power book to give you more options. You might be interested in a new implement-- the Tome. It lets you store an encounter power that you know, and you can use it instead of your 'chosen' encounter power each encounter. (That is, you expend your original encounter to use it-- so you're really just getting a choice, and I love that.) Anyway, something to consider.

Also, if you want to get the updated Character Builder (INLCUDES ARCANE AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF), Dave said to send him a PM. He can help.

ALSO, if any of you PM me with the books you need, I might be able to let you "borrow" them.

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Dave sent me the Upgrade info. Working on the download now. I might do a little tinkering.

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I'm really getting lost here. Some of these new powers and implements are confusing. Does anyone have any suggestions to build changes? So far I've just taken what sounds cool pretty much.

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I sense some clear Halfling Wizard favoritism here!

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Well I could tell you what my wizard in Dave's game has.

But I refuse to let you be as good as me. :sobad:

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-Boar Assault (Ranger) is a pretty beefy daily in order to start an encounter against a Big Bad.

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Hee hee, I like to think so. And I'm super happy to see people writing backgrounds now. I was beginning to feel like the only one. ^^;;

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I just want to take a look at the illusion spells.

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I'm eager to see how we get started. Traditional tavern meeting? Some event in a city lands us together? The only survivors of a crashed ship on a strange land? So many possibilities...

My backstory will be short and simple: Grendmir is buddies with a trio of dwarf brothers who at one point decided to set up a trade business together running routes to and from Luruar. Being their friend, they invited Grendmir along as a bodyguard. He's been doing that for a good 10 years, though he really hasn't seen much action in the way of fighting while doing so. Now his friends are doing fairy well for themselves and have gone off with their fortunes to start families and new enterprises. Now Grendmir is seeing how the time has passed and he has little to show for it, both in wealth and for his own pride. It's time to get on with real life.

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I've never liked the traditional tavern meeting. An event that pits us together always makes sense though. 'cause then you're "forced" to work together and it all works out.

If you have a specific way for us to start out in mind, Shawn, you could let us know so we could come up with a reason for our characters to be there. (For example, Dave had us create a reason for our character to have gone through the malfunctioning gates to arrive at the city we started at. As such, we were all in the same boat, looking for answers together.) It's up to you.

So, so far we have:

- An Elven Ranger, looking for clues to the disappearance of her family and what drove her brother mad
- A Halfing Wizard, whose very way of life crumbled around him, and now must make a name for himself to restore his Family's honor
- A Changeling Sorcerer, searching for her place in the world while seeking those that destroyed her home and took her kind
- An Elven Cleric, wandering the land and helping those who need it in an attempt for redemption
- A Dragonborn Fighter, confronted with his own worth, who seeks another purpose in life, one that will give him something to be proud of
- And a Dragonborn Warlord, history yet defined.

ANYWAY I AM VERY EXCITED HURRY UP THURSDAY.

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ANYWAY I AM VERY EXCITED HURRY UP THURSDAY.

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My and Esc's sentiments exactly! :uhhuh:

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- And a Dragonborn Warlord, history yet defined.

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i'm working on it. i'll have something writted by thursday.

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I think I'm gonna stick with my current setup of powers, unless something is made clearer to me.

The Tome of Readiness - does it allow me to KNOW a second encounter power, but only be able to cast one/encounter, sort of like how the wizard's Spellbook works for daily powers?

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Yes, the Tome of Readiness makes it so that you can have 2 encounter powers, but only cast one of them each encounter.

This is much better than how the Daily Spellbook system works, to me, because with the dailies you have to pick which one you're going to use at the beginning of the day, which is gay.

I personally love having a second encounter power to choose from, even if I only get to cast one. This lets me have Burning Hands, which is great for large groups, and Force Orb which is good for a single target with enemies adjacent. (Burning Hands hurts enemies and allies, whereas Force Orb only hurts enemies, which makes it a decent alternative.)

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Okay cool, so I'm gonna take Tome of Readiness and offhand a dagger, and I'm keeping Burning Hands for burst damage, and "inscribing" Grasping Shadows for burst control.

What sucks is that I can't actually select another encounter power in the Character Creator, which is why I was initially confused. So I'm going to have to refer to the build section for all the details of it whenever I get confused. Oh well.

EDIT: Anyone who wants to make me a cool underlay for Grasping Shadows is welcome to help. Mine is pretty lackluster so far:



Currently at 75% opacity.

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I'm eager to see how we get started. Traditional tavern meeting? Some event in a city lands us together? The only survivors of a crashed ship on a strange land? So many possibilities..

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Survivors of a boat crash are forced to live with each other on a remote island, a dangerous new world that poses unique threats of its own. There is also much more than meets the eye, as it becomes apparent that everyone is connected in some way and that everyone has a purpose to live on the island... and for some, to die.

lol

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I also changed my feat to Reaper's Touch, which for a wizard, means that I can use my Magic Missile as a melee attack, including Attacks of Opportunity.



EDIT: In fact, here are all my updates, minus the inclusion of Grasping Shadows in the Tome of Readiness:

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Errik Loreno, level 1
Halfling, Wizard
Build: War Wizard
Arcane Implement Mastery: Tome of Readiness

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 15.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 14, Dex 12, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 13.


AC: 14 Fort: 12 Reflex: 14 Will: 14
HP: 24 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 6

TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +9, Streetwise +8, Insight +6, Diplomacy +7

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Bluff +2, Dungeoneering +1, Endurance +2, Heal +1, History +4, Intimidate +3, Nature +1, Perception +1, Religion +4, Stealth +2, Thievery +4, Athletics -1

FEATS
Wizard: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Reaper's Touch

POWERS
Wizard at-will 1: Scorching Burst
Wizard at-will 1: Magic Missile
Wizard encounter 1: Burning Hands
Wizard daily 1: Freezing Cloud
Wizard daily 1 Spellbook: Flaming Sphere

ITEMS
Spellbook, Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing), Adventurer's Kit, Ritual Book, Implement, Tome
RITUALS
Animal Messenger, Tenser's Floating Disk, Comprehend Language
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

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Reaper's Touch? Man, you should try to avoid being within Melee range whenever possible. Even then, you can almost always Shift 1 Square away from the enemy and then shoot him.

I'd heavily advise against Reaper's Touch. I mean, if that's what you want, it's up to you, but I feel you could pick a better feat. In Dave's game I've never needed to use Magic Missile as a melee attack. (I've always had another alternative.) If you think it'll be an issue though, go for it.

I chose Destructive Wizardry, because my goal is to hit as many targets as possible with each attack I do, and as long as you hit 2 or more you get a +2 to the damage of the attack.

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doomdragon6 said:

Reaper's Touch? Man, you should try to avoid being within Melee range whenever possible. Even then, you can almost always Shift 1 Square away from the enemy and then shoot him.

I'd heavily advise against Reaper's Touch. I mean, if that's what you want, it's up to you, but I feel you could pick a better feat. In Dave's game I've never needed to use Magic Missile as a melee attack. (I've always had another alternative.) If you think it'll be an issue though, go for it.

I chose Destructive Wizardry, because my goal is to hit as many targets as possible with each attack I do, and as long as you hit 2 or more you get a +2 to the damage of the attack.

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Yeah that's a good point. The chances of me AoOing anyone are pretty low.

EDIT: I don't know WHY I skipped over Destructive Wizardry. Most of my powers are bursts or blasts, including BOTH of my available encounters and potentially both my dailies.

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Since you asked, made this for Grasping Shadows.

Feel free to use or don't. Either way I like it.

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nice.

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doomdragon6 said:

Since you asked, made this for Grasping Shadows.

Feel free to use or don't. Either way I like it.

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Taken. Thanks.

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I rolled a Minotaur Barbarian out of boredom. So I have another character if Serin bites the bucket! Or maybe Serin can shapechange into a Minotaur and get stuck in that form somehow. I dunno.

.... Can you tell I have nothing better to do than wait for D&D?

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I just found out you can put animated gifs into GameTable, but the weird thing is, it only animates when something "changes." It animates if you move the map, or move the cursor to the menu (it only advances one frame), but it doesn't just animate. Very odd.

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WHY IS IT STILL ONLY WEDNESDAY WHYYYYYYY

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Gusto said:

WHY IS IT STILL ONLY WEDNESDAY WHYYYYYYY

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Cause if it were Thursday it would be a very short game.

Adventure outlined. Final encounter planned. Just need to fill in everything else.

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I expect it to be a short game on Thursday anyways, a lot of setup is going to take place. A lot of people still need to catch up to speed to 4E, so patience will be key. Don't expect us to solve all the problems of Faerum in one night.

I'd say our 2nd week will be a lot more rewarding.

Is there anything else we should do to setup things on our end before go time? I wanted to create some dice macros but to be honest, I'll probably need someone to point out my dice rolls, I don't want to make our DM think I'm cheating due to human error. :shock:

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/roll d20+7

That shows in the program as well as the result. So rolling die is not really an issue.

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The rolls you need to make macros for at their most basic are probably initiative and your attacks. If you really want to go all out, you can make macros for all of your skill checks too. I made macros for everything except ability checks (which I might do now, it's easy enough...)

Anyway, most of the die modifiers can be found on your character sheet.

Initiative is a simple d20 + (whatever your initiative modifier is).

Your attacks are often detailed as something like "Strength vs. AC" or "Intelligence vs. Reflex". For these, you basically go d20 + (relevant ability modifier). I went so far as to detail that I'm attacking Reflex in the macro's title, but the defense that you'r targeting doesn't really affect the die roll itself.

After that, damage rolls are pretty clearly outlined in "Hit:" section of your powers. If they have a secondary attack (for example, Flaming Sphere does 2d6 + INT on a hit, but 1d4 + INT to any creature who is adjacent to it as well), outline that in a separate macro.

Skills are fairly simple - they're just like initiative. d20 + modifier.

And finally, here's my protip: I try to keep my macros organized because I have so many of them and they get organized alphabetically. So I titled them accordingly:



Hope that helps.

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*jaw drops*

Dude, that's a huge macro list!... make mine! lol

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Well most of them are just there for the label, really. Just about all of my attacks are Intelligence vs. Reflex, which is always the same roll. And I'll probably never attempt to make an Athletics check. I just had a lot of time on my hands.

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Is that menu from Gametable or somewhere else? That looks seriously cool.

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Edrondol said:

Is that menu from Gametable or somewhere else? That looks seriously cool.

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Yeah it's just my Dice Macro tab in the little window on the left. I cropped it down for the sake of not having a 1680x1050 screenshot in here.

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Yeah, that's the same as I did - although I didn't bother with the skills.

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My OCD kinda took over and I added ability checks.

As far as I know, that's every dice roll I'll ever need to make.

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What about your saving throw?

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*squee* Just a day away now, ya'll! ^.^ I just realized something; am I the only girl? At first I thought that doomdragon was a girl, but apparently he is just playing as a female character.

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What about your saving throw?

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I didn't bother making macros for straight d20 rolls.

And YES faline, you are the only lady. And the first that I've played DnD with for [hopefully] more than one session. And Doom is a dude playing a lady, and I do believe that he wrote a paragraph explaining why.

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There wasn't already a macro set up for straight d20 rolls?

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*squee* Just a day away now, ya'll! ^.^ I just realized something; am I the only girl? At first I thought that doomdragon was a girl, but apparently he is just playing as a female character.

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I hate you.

Yes, I'm playing a girl. I have, for a very long time, said I would never play a girl in things like online RPGs or D&D or whathaveyou.

But, for some reason, a female Doppelganger worked better in my head, so I said fuck it, and made a female character.

I -will not- be doing anything that is usually female specific. I will not flirt with male characters, I will not try to sleep with someone for a discount, and I will not stop being useful once a month. *rimshot* (Sorry faline!)

If it starts becoming some kind of weird problem that my character is female, it's a Doppelganger. I can make it a male permanently. Very easy.

/overly-sensitve rant

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ONE DAY!

So, the essentials:

- 5:30 central, to work out the kinks
- Vent and GameTable (Find info to connect to Vent at the top of the We Love Game forum.)
- Get on Vent first so Shawn can provide us his info to connect to him on GameTable
- If for some reason you can't talk/mic doesn't work, Vent has a chatroom. You can go in there and communicated. It might be a good idea for the others to open the chat too just in case. Also, theres a button at the bottom of the chat that enables Text to Speech, so it will read aloud whatever is typed, so you don't have to focus on the chat.

Learning the ways of things shouldn't take too long. In Dave's game we were all a bunch of newbs, and we decimated a goblin raid in no time.

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Nice job on the macros, Gusto. Ready to listen to how much of an idiot I am? I said, "Hmm, I need to organize these by Encounter and Daily and whatnot... I KNOW! I'LL DO THIS!"



I think I'll try your method. Mine's retarded.

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Hahaha, that's cool Doom. I just really liked how despite being sorted alphabetically, ALL of my powers are lumped together, regardless of frequency.

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Export that macro Gusto, me want! :quote:

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SeriousJay said:

Export that macro Gusto, me want! :quote:

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FINGERQUOTES HUH

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Do you want me to PM you my saved XML file?

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But Gusto's macros won't do you any good. :bush:

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FOOLS NOW I AM THE WIZARD

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Ya, I'd like them. I'll just edit them to fit my needs.

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As OCD and psychotic as it seems, it would be nice not to have to go to the character sheet for every skill roll and every added effect of each at-will/encounter/daily.

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SeriousJay: It would actually be easier to just make your own macros then.

In GameTable, go to the Dice Macros tab on the left box. Then at the top toolbar, click 'Dice' and 'Add Macro.'

Here, just name it (Example- AT-WILL Scorching Burst (Int vs Reflex) ), and then put in the die roll, as such (minus the quotes): "d6 + 4" or whatever your modifier(s) would be.

Veddy shimple.

Escushion: It's not OCD. It's so, so, so, so, so useful. I didn't bother making skill checks and whatnot, but being able to click a button to do it for you and know it didn't make a mistake is nice.

If you guys want, send me a PM with your Character Builder files (so I can access the character sheets with power cards and know the proper modifiers) and I'll make them for you. Otherwise, g'luck makin' 'em!

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What's gonna be painful is when I hit level two and have to adjust everything by one.

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I'll do mine, thanks. Got some time tonight, maybe.

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doomdragon6 said:

*rimshot* (Sorry faline!)

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Um...you sure you're not a girl?

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Do I really come off as girl-like. >_> Really?

*plays his Minotaur barbarian character instead*

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Hahahaha!

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Do we have a Vent server set up we are meeting up on?

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Do we have a Vent server set up we are meeting up on?

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You can use Ed's, I'm pretty sure it will be empty. Look for it in the vent thread.

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Cool. We'll do that.

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Posted here for convenience:

Server IP: chi4.ugt-servers.com
Port: 21169
Password: halforum

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As far as how everyone meets up, that's entirely up to you guys. While I'm not up for the traditional "Tavern Meeting" either, sometimes finding something that will bring the party together on something is not only difficult to accomplish with amazing results, but also probably revolves around a little meta gaming when it comes time to decide if you shouldn't part ways after the starting adventure is over.

So to make things easier on everyone, just assume you have met up in the city of NewHaven and have since left to pursue an adventuring career (though your characters obviously have different reasons to be out in the world than just "adventure", it's as good a start as any). The details of how you met, what you were doing when you met, and what made you decide to work together is something you can put together between now and whenever.

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That's fine; we'll fudge it as we need to with meetings and such. I'm sure you have NPCs and all lined up in thought. I just don't want it to turn into WoW with dice; that's why I was pressing for how we all get together. It'll all work out.

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Usually it's best to use your backgrounds as a starting point.
Most of you have reasons to be out where you are. Be it using your religion as a way to make up for your past sins...or... in the Halfling's case, using religion as if he's some Born Again who's huge list of sins are immediately wiped clean the moment he says a prayer. Adia seems like a leader type. Serin and Adia are the ones who seem to have the most focused of goals and should probably have specific reasons why they have joined together. Though a thought has occured to me.

Perhaps Adia's search for what caused her brother to go mad has brought her to the city of NewHaven where she believes he may have stayed for a short time. She follows a lead and visits a boarding house where she discovers that Feriel shared a room, often conversed, and eventually left with a "woman" named Bertrow. This would have happened not long before Feriel returned home, and not long after Serin's family was attacked and killed. Call it incredible luck, coincidence, or fate, but this revalation is also made by Serin at the same moment who followed the trail the possible traitor of her family, Bertrow, to this establishment.
This gives the women of the party a common goal, and that is to find Bertrow who seems to be the link in both their current problems.

Though I do like to be involved in progressing storylines for characters, I'll get both your approval on this one first.

The others have a little less focus in their lives and may need very little reason to pack up and join someone who is already on a mission of sorts. While helping these women may not be the primary reason they are assisting them, as they may simply appreciate a group of like-minded individuals out to right wrongs, explore, or find fame and fortune.

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I like it! I know I'm not attached to that story at all, but I can sorta fudge a reason why my halfling would want to follow Serin.

If Serin recognizes the Loreno name as the mob that she has had troubled dealings with in the past (making a connection here...) then it follows that Errik, on his first step towards trying to make amends, would want to help her out in the name of his family.

Tensions might be high at first, allowing for some good RP hooks, but Errik is earnestly trying to be a better person.

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BTW:
I haven't really come across any actual map of the 4th edition core world (I don't think it's traditional Greyhawk anymore), so for the most part it's just going to be made up as we go along. I know some people have chosen some locations that may or may not already exist in the books, and that's perfectly fine. Just keep in mind that distance approximation is very fluid right now.

A bit about the world: The world has been in a constant state of flux. Two thousand (or so) of years ago the Dragonborn where the dominate beings. Then Tieflings threatened their rule and a huge war occured. Both forces were nearly wiped out. A few hundred years later Humans and Dwarves banded together and forged a new world. Then a dark era came as the heavens themselves fought a massive war with the world caught in the middle. All races paid dearly. So here it is, a thousand years later and the world is healing. The wilderness has taken back most of what it lost during the human progression, and wild beasts and monsters are common place. Societies band together and have started spreading out slowly again.

Cosmology: As per 4th edition rules.

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That's all pretty unimportant to me since I've only ever played/DMed in homebrewed "worlds".

I should add, just for the sake of seeing connections where there may not BE any, that in the game I'm DMing wherein Errik is a minor NPC, the Loreno family is currently operating in a small elven forest settlement kinda like the one Adia comes from.

Dun dun DUNNNN.

*continues asserting himself into everyone's backstory/motivation*

Nah, seriously, it's up to you guys if you wanna go along with any of these ideas. I just don't like the idea of my character "spinning in the void" without any connections to any other characters, and I REALLY like the idea that some PCs or NPCs would have heard of my family, and assume the worst of me.

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bleh. you guys know how i said i would write something before thursday? i lied. Sorry. writers block, you know? that said though, i have a pretty good idea of what Kratash's backstory will be.

To summarize:

Kratash was born with red scales, though his father (the tribe's chieftain) was brown and his mother yellow. (i am assuming dragonborn scale colours are a genetic trait) Though he never said anything about it, Kratash's father always remained distant from his bastard son. On the day of Kratash's 15th birthday, when he was supposed to undergo his coming of age ceremony, the chieftain refused to perform the part of the father in the ritual. Realizing that there was no place for him in the village, Kratash set off that night, with only clothes, boots, and a bow for hunting.


i will add more / edit it later

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I'm fine with those connections, as I don't have any better ideas. Both of them looking for Bertrow makes it so it's not just a singular person's goal, and if Serin worked for a mob, it might as well have been Loreno's. Still up to Faline for her approval I guess.

Some details:
- Serin worked for the Loreno mob for a month, set to be paid at the end of the month. Guess which mob got broken up just 3 days before her pay. Another reason to hound Errik.

- I'll leave Bertrow's stuff up to you. Either way, he needs to have joined up with Paladins and Clerics (very likely from the "dark" side) either by cutting a deal or by disguising himself as a figure of power. He would have convinced them that the changelings are demons of some sort, or a threat, or whatever. His class can be anything, but a powerful magic type seems most suiting. Serin believes/hopes her family to be alive (she only saw them captured), but that's up to you cuz I don't care. Probably more convenient for them to be dead.

A possible idea: Similar to the 'boat to island' idea from before, all of our characters can be coming to NewHaven on a ship, for whatever reasons (already somewhat discussed). On the boat, they could have all talked amongst themselves in whatever excuse for a social hangout the ship has (making it so we don't have to talk about things we already know). They all plan to part ways (except maybe Adia should she agree), but the ship is ambushed by (weak) sea creatures just before docking, or stow-awayed goblins attack or something. This would give our group a sense of unity, by already talking some and being brought together as a team working together in battle. The 'help-for-hire' type could join simply because they sense a cause or a need for purpose. Errik would want to stick together, seeing that it could lead to more good deeds, etc.

This starts the game off with a battle (to get people aquainted with the system) and starts off exciting without potentially awkward RP, and gives us a reason to stay "new to each other, but familar."

Seems like it'd work to me. Up to you guys.

Only 4.5 hours away, wooo.

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any idea where I can get more pogs for gametable?

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Well you can always make your own. I don't know where to get more, though.

Google:



Just gotta cut each and every one out. Oy.

Edit: Oh neet, the top 4th from the left (top right orange) looks like Serin!

Also, can get art here to make your own. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4arch/ag
Time consuming though. I found a place that sells a collection of .pngs, but you have to pay for that, so it's poopy.

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Perhaps Adia's search for what caused her brother to go mad has brought her to the city of NewHaven where she believes he may have stayed for a short time. She follows a lead and visits a boarding house where she discovers that Feriel shared a room, often conversed, and eventually left with a "woman" named Bertrow. This would have happened not long before Feriel returned home, and not long after Serin's family was attacked and killed. Call it incredible luck, coincidence, or fate, but this revalation is also made by Serin at the same moment who followed the trail the possible traitor of her family, Bertrow, to this establishment.
This gives the women of the party a common goal, and that is to find Bertrow who seems to be the link in both their current problems.

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Approved! Sounds fabulous to me, and yes, Adia is a very "leader" type character.

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That was awesome.

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guess who did the single largest hit in that game? I DID

rolled a 26 on my daily for 3d12+4. Massive.

so far i am liking DnD.

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Firstly, thank you Shawn for being our DM, you were very patient and great at what you were doing.

Secondly, good job everyone, while the start took a bit of time, I could tell as the night went on (and the macros started being done) that things were more fluid... until the crocodile blew our minds...


*the guys who critical misses an attack on a corpse* :/

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Bitch I did a 32.

Well, I would have.

Fucking GameTable gives low rolls. More often than high rolls. >_>

ANYWAY it was funzors. Looking forward to next week!

Our loot so far:

Exp: 100 exp each
Gold: 3 gold and 38 silver each
Sapphire: If we go ahead and convert it to currency (like if we exchange it first thing at a town automatically), it's 200 gold, or 33 gold and 33 silver each.

4 health potions, already distributed
1 Bracer of Mighty Strikes, to Adia

Anyone wanna write a summary of what all went down? =P I assume journals can cover it, but technically they can't write them until the croc is defeated.

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Firstly, thank you Shawn for being our DM, you were very patient and great at what you were doing.

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seconded!

Secondly, good job everyone, while the start took a bit of time, I could tell as the night went on (and the macros started being done) that things were more fluid... until the crocodile blew our minds...

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i was probably the major offender here. i had to ask what to roll what, 4 times? lol.

*the guys who critical misses an attack on a corpse* :/

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you mean the guy who couldn't beat the reflex save of a corpse

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Yeah I still call bull doo-doos on the missing of a corpse. It's against reflex-- you CANNOT miss it.

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With a roll like that, I was lucky I didn't burn myself at failing to launch that attack.

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Assuming that an inanimate, unheld object has a dex of 1 (giving it a -5 mod) it would have an auto Reflex of 5. (10 minus 5).
The attack roll did manage to hit 5, however he rolled a 1 doing it, and a 1 ALWAYS misses. So yes. His holy bolt from God missed the unmoving corpse.

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I didn't know 1s always missed.

With the rolls GameTable gets us, we're likely to miss--- well, hell, we're likely to miss a corpse.

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Assume in a combat situation that an attack of any sort requires a roll. Because you never know what might be going on. The 1 indicates that he was simply under some duress that possibly caused his aim to suffer. I imagine a big, nasty, invisible, frost crocodile might cause someone to lose his cool.

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He sneezed.

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A summary for those of you unfortunate souls who did not get to listen in:

And so the chronicles of... whoever these people are, began!

The elven ranger, Adia, having teamed up with the changeling sorcerer, Serin, to find Betrow (another powerful changeling), a man supposed to be linked to their families' disappearance, set off on their way to look for clues. Arriving in the city of New Haven, they came across Errik, a halfling wizard discovered to be part of the recently disbanded Loreno mob family. Sensing a chance to perform good deeds and redeem his family's name, Errik joined the pair of adventurers. They also come across Saryon, the elven cleric; Kratash, the dragonborn warlord, and Grendmir, a dragonborn fighter.

Sensing a tip to head [insert direction here], they make their way away from NewHaven, coming upon a small town called Westbrooke. Noticing that the town seemed ill-at-ease, the party headed straight for the tavern and started asking questions. Adia, after getting a poor [dwarven?] blacksmith's hopes up, discovers that two women have gone missing from the town, shortly after an entertainer appeared. Serin, disguised as a human, started to chat with the barmaid, finding out that indeed her daughter had been one of the ones that disappeared. The rest of the group had their fingers in their ears, shouting "La la la la!" apparently trying to ignore all conversation in the room.

Eventually the rest of the party gathered around the barmaid, learning that a search party sent out of the town found no sign of any kind of tracks whatsoever. After learning that the blacksmith had access to the storage tower in the town, Adia got a hunch that maybe the missing people never left the town to begin with. She, getting the blacksmith's hopes up once again, gets him to unlock the door to the tower letting the group in.

After some exploration, the party made their way to the basement, and before long located a hidden trap door. After a long discussion on how to open this trap door (in a tool storage tower), the group quickly locates a crowbar and lifts the trapdoor open, revealing a spiraling set of stairs.

Adia taking the lead, she deftly made her way downstairs. As soon as the party reached the bottom, they noticed a campfire in the corner and two overturned tables. They immediately recognized it as an ambush, but with no time to act, they were attacked!

Serin was the first to be hit, with a bottle of immobilizing glue breaking on her face and dripping down her body. Second came a bottle of alchemical flame, setting one of the dragonborn ablaze.

It turned out the party had invaded a Kobold den (who themselves had invaded a longstanding dwarven shelter). After a quick scuffle, the last remaining kobold surrendered. He revealed that the three humans had been taken as sacrifices for a ritual "to bring in a warrior for the kobolds."

Fearing the worst, the adventurers tied up the kobold and left him in the room, carefully opening a set of double-doors. Much to their chagrin, however, this set off an alarm of bells. The group tensed, preparing for an onslaught of kobold guards that never came. The group began exploring rooms in the den, finding mostly uninteresting bedchambers, though a few held enchanted bracers and a sapphire, worth a pretty penny.

The group was finally ready for the large room that they knew had to be the ritual chamber. With a door on either side, they were going to burst in and flank the enemy! Charging the doors, they found--- an eating chamber with some kobold mothers and scared younglings.

Leaving the defenseless kobolds (and securing the doors with a bit of rope), the party trekked on through the winding hallway, which eventually emptied into a ginormous cave, holding none other than a gigantic dragon skeleton!

Before the group could investigate, they heard a large explosion come from the hallway down the cavern wall. They ran for the room, discovering a spent ritual circle with charred goblin corpses surrounding it. Hearing screams from the room adjacent, they hastily made their way over, only to be confronted with a large crocodile creature, shimmering with frost!

The party noticed the two missing women chained to the wall, and had arrived just in time to see the entertainer gulped up by the beast.

The fight began.

-- To Be Continued

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I'm glad everyone enjoyed themselves. It was a little rough start but we got it going quickly. The technology wasn't perfect but we had plenty of good laughs, scares and excitement as it played out. It's been a while since I've DMed so I know I was a little shakey. I'm also going to have to remember to change my keybind for Vent. My finger is STILL numb from holding down my middle mouse button for 5 hours.

I also thought I might leave you with an excerpt from an AIM session with a friend and myself talking about the campaign.

Me: I'm trying to find a solo monster for this party to fight, but the lowest one I can find is level 5.

Him: You could add DMG templates to something. If you add two templates it becomes a solo monster.

Me: Oh really? :sobad:

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I thought it was hilarious table talk that anytime we would uncover an new area of the map, someone would drag in the HUGE Tarrasque pog, or that explosion pog.



IT NEVER GETS OLD! I was honestly surprised!

And it was excellent for my character's development to have that big conversation about what we should do with our kobold hostage. To show mercy to an enemy who wouldn't show it to us were the tables turned, and could even prove to be a thorn in our sides later. Paradigms shiftin' all OVER the place.

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I'm surprised you guys didn't hang him over the fire like someone suggested.

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I was the one who kept putting the Tarrasque and Explosions into play for dramatic effect.

I believe the town was called Westbrooke and the ruins were dwarven.

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Second came a bottle of alchemical flame, setting one of the dragonborn ablaze.

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it was acid, i think, and i made my reflex save

The fight began.

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and then kratash rolled a natural 20 on his initiative and did 47 damage to the beast.

*air guitar*

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I was the one who kept putting the Tarrasque and Explosions into play for dramatic effect.

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lol. the tarrasque actually surprised me a couple times.

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Goddamn it. I wish I could've been the one DMing!

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My character's policy is basically that if you get attacked, defned yourself. But if someone surrenders or is willing to negotiate, let them live. If he comes back with a host of kobolds, well, he'll get his.

Depending, of course. If he'd managed to kill one of us or do something extra malicious (as opposed to just defending his home) I'd have killed him.

Y'know, that is kinda fucked up. We just waltz into a kobold den (eating areas, bedrooms, and all) and start killing them. Granted, they attacked us first, and they did kidnap some people... Y'know what, fuck it; we let the non-hostiles live.

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Thank you so much for a great first game, ya'll. ^.^ I'm looking forward to next week!

Oh, and that recap was brilliant, Doom. *hugs* It's going in the journal section of my character sheet now!

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Since people have my pog, who can edit it to make it look spiffy like the others?

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Speaking of pogs, I should get cracking at making some others.

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[strike:2u1mpl56]I don't know. You could try putting a folder inside the pogs folder.[/strike:2u1mpl56]It's hard to get much info on GameTable. If you wanted, you could even look into maptools (but you can't build on the fly, I don't think.)

Here ya go, Jay.


Edit: SHAWN DID YOU EDIT YOUR POST OR AM I CRAZY.

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doomdragon6 said:

[strike:ytfyywbo]I don't know. You could try putting a folder inside the pogs folder.[/strike:ytfyywbo]It's hard to get much info on GameTable. If you wanted, you could even look into maptools (but you can't build on the fly, I don't think.)

Here ya go, Jay.

Edit: SHAWN DID YOU EDIT YOUR POST OR AM I CRAZY.

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I figured it out, thanks.

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Hey Shawn, found a buttload of pogs.

http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/loc ... hp?catid=4

It says it has all the monsters and has zip files of every alphabet letter, plus pogs for various other things.

Plus, there are places to find unerlays for floor tiles and stuff like that. Don't know how necessary that is, though.

More things to use as decorations: http://rpgmapshare.com/index.php?q=gall ... OISSES_PMT

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If you're using gametable DON'T DO IT!! Put too many pogs in and the whole thing crashes.

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Edrondol said:

If you're using gametable DON'T DO IT!! Put too many pogs in and the whole thing crashes.

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Oh really? As in too many pogs on the table or just too many pogs in the library?

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Edrondol said:

If you're using gametable DON'T DO IT!! Put too many pogs in and the whole thing crashes.

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*blink* Good to know.

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Just for the record - we made 23 gold offa those goblins that ambushed us. That comes out to 3g8s3c apiece.

Cha-ching.

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What sapphire?

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What sapphire?

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Yeah I didn't bother dividing that up since we haven't sold it yet.

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Sold what?

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What sapphire?

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A Sapphire (only worth 100g? I believe it was) was found in one of the smaller rooms in the dungeon.

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he is implying his character has palmed it and will be keeping the 100g for himself.

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You guys are terrible at subtle humor.

'cept you, Serious Jay and Allen.

You're the DM so you get final word, but I'm almost 100% certain you said 200gp in-game, as I even marked it down on my personal list of loot we found.

Anywho, a week away 'til our next game. Oy! *needs to get a hobby*

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I'm just kidding anyways, my character is a cleric of Ilmater. Thus has no need to palm anything.

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I recall it being worth 100g.

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I remember 200g but I may be mistaken, I stopped taking notes once we left the tavern.

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Looked in the DM's guide real quick and technically a sapphire is worth 10,000 gp. But we're clearly not going with that, so it's whatever you say, oh great DM!

Quick note: While it makes sense as it IS searching for things, will all treasure lying in a room be awarded to only high perception rolls? Cuz if that's the case I may have to switch training from athletics to perception.

I might actually just do that anyway. *waits for level 2 to retrain* :ugeek:

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doomdragon6 said:

Looked in the DM's guide real quick and technically a sapphire is worth 10,000 gp. But we're clearly not going with that, so it's whatever you say, oh great DM!

Quick note: While it makes sense as it IS searching for things, will all treasure lying in a room be awarded to only high perception rolls? Cuz if that's the case I may have to switch training from athletics to perception.

I might actually just do that anyway. *waits for level 2 to retrain* :ugeek:

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I dunno. Maybe for the Bracers of Mighty Striking, there could be some contention for ownership, but if Saryon or Adia or any of you super-perception people found a magical giant two-handed axe, or some kinda magical wand or tome, I would hope it would go to the most reasonable player.

If you wanna play hardball wherein the person who finds the stuff gets to keep it, then all that gold from the ambush is mine, and I might start keeping information I get from Arcana or Streetwise checks to myself as well.

I really don't want that to happen.

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Quick note: While it makes sense as it IS searching for things, will all treasure lying in a room be awarded to only high perception rolls? Cuz if that's the case I may have to switch training from athletics to perception.

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That would be silly thing to do and shouldn't be brought up again in the context of loot distribution (it leaves a bad taste in my mouth). Personally, I don't think we need so many people to be specialized in perception. While our DM was very patient with people who spammed skill check rolls instead of allowing those who are trained in that particular skill to lead the way I don't think that he'll continually allow the entire group to perform a skill check on a consistent basis like on our first night. (People also need to slow down on their movements, lack of patience gets your party in danger) Despite the shoddy rolls that Gametable sometime provides, you want to go with your best bet, whenever possible, or else he'll just take the first roll to speed things along (and get an average roll of say (10+2) instead of a well trained roll of (10+12). To be honest, we need the entire party to be balanced and have a good assortment of skills.

I dunno. Maybe for the Bracers of Mighty Striking, there could be some contention for ownership, but if Saryon or Adia or any of you super-perception people found a magical giant two-handed axe, or some kinda magical wand or tome, I would hope it would go to the most reasonable player.

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Of course, best interest of the group. And let's not go down that trail about retaining information and all that stuff!! Change subject plz.



In regards to last week's loot, I was looking over our group skills and whatnot and I thought of something of interest. Those bracers of mighty striking would look awfully nice on the warlord combined to the power of Commander's Strike. The ability grants an ally a free melee attack (great when the warlord cannot get to the target or has an extra action to use) and the extra power is pretty nice.

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I play with a simple rule in mind. Everyone is to enjoy themselves. Usually this means I try to keep the pace moving quickly to keep people from getting bored. At certain times I allow people to make mass rolls and I will describe the situation based on the results. I like to assume that players will share any loot they find (with exceptions to those characters of less honest personalities) and will hand out magic items to those that can use them the most effeciently.

In the case of the Bracers I believe that Adia is best choice for them.
Commander's Strike gives an ally of the warlord's choice a free basic attack. The bracers grant a bonus to melee basic attacks. Right now Adia has the most damage potential with her melee basic attacks (especially if she has Hunter's Quary on the target) so it's better tactics to let her have the bonus to hit.

But this is mearly a suggestion. As the DM I will never force any of you to make a decision on how to divide loot or what choices your characters make (unless I feel it's against your alignment or meta gaming). Also take heart in knowing that magic items aren't super rare in the world. There will be plenty to go around.

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All sounds good. Was merely curious.

Also, regarding thr mass rolls-- we should -really- be doing the Cooperation thing instead. I tried mentioning it at the last game, but I guess it wasn't getting through in the confusion (also, I didn't have the exact page number).

Straight from the book:

Cooperation
In some situations, you and your allies can work
together to use a skill; your allies can help you make
a skill check by making a check themselves. Each
ally who gets a result of 10 or higher gives you a +2
bonus to your check. Up to four allies can help you,
for a maximum bonus of +8. If you have a choice, let
the character in your group who has the highest base
skill check bonus take the lead, while the other characters
cooperate to give bonuses to the check. See “Aid
Another,” page 287, for how to cooperate in combat.

In most situations, we're going to be together, so we should start using these cooperation rules. Assuming we are, we should let the highest Perception character check, followed by each subsequently 'worse' character. A +8 to what is already a +11 or +12 will make it so we almost never miss anything within reason.

I just wanna stress this, because this is the definition of how we work together.

We have a week to come up with teamwork ideas with each other. It might be a good idea to somehow get everyone's character sheets together so we can all get familiar with everyone's abilities and learn how to work together.

Also, we had an issue last time with forgetting that we had bonuses applied to us (I think it was +2 Attack from the Warlord?). The best way I can think of to circumvent this, at least for now, would be to make unobtrusive tokens with common modifiers (1+ATK, +2ATK, +1DMG, +2DMG) and set them next to/near our characters. Or the supplier of the bonus could remind everybody each turn. I wouldn't see this as annoying in the slightest. We could just edit our "token attribute" to say +2 ATK but I feel it's very easy to miss that.

Anywho, I think we all did well last game. The only real thing we need to do differently is use Cooperation rules instead of spamming checks.

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Why not just have Adia look?

No, I agree, although none of us had the specifics for it. Now that you've posted them, we can figure it out at the time of needing to make a check rather than everyone jumping in to roll their 20s and pitiful modifiers.

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If you guys are on the subject of how to find magic items:

Detect Magic (Trained Only)
Your knowledge of magic allows you to identify magical
effects and sense the presence of magic.

Sense the Presence of Magic: 1 minute.
? DC: DC 20 + one-half the level of a magic item,
power (conjuration or zone), ritual, or magical phenomenon
within range.
? Area of Detection: You can detect magic within
a number of squares equal to 5 + your level in
every direction, and you can ignore any sources of
magical energy you’re already aware of. Ignore all
barriers; you can detect magic through walls, doors,
and such.

Gusto is your divining rod.

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In the case of the Bracers I believe that Adia is best choice for them.
Commander's Strike gives an ally of the warlord's choice a free basic attack. The bracers grant a bonus to melee basic attacks. Right now Adia has the most damage potential with her melee basic attacks (especially if she has Hunter's Quary on the target) so it's better tactics to let her have the bonus to hit.

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If I may, the bracers only add a bonus to damage. The special abilities of the fighter are only generated through basic melee attacks, by increasing the damage dealt by their Combat Challenge and Combat Superiority attacks you increase their worth as a defender.

As to tactics of cooperation, may I suggest your warlord granting the extra attack to the fighter, so they can attack a seperate opponent and have two enemies marked each round? Or if you are down to a single monster, have the fighter go total defense and have the warlord grant him an extra attack so the defender is harder to hit and the target is marked. Also Aid Another is a melee attack so the fighter can mark a target with it while granting a striker the extra +2 to hit, works really well with a flanking ally.

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Allen said:

If you guys are on the subject of how to find magic items:

Detect Magic (Trained Only)
Your knowledge of magic allows you to identify magical
effects and sense the presence of magic.

Sense the Presence of Magic: 1 minute.
? DC: DC 20 + one-half the level of a magic item,
power (conjuration or zone), ritual, or magical phenomenon
within range.
? Area of Detection: You can detect magic within
a number of squares equal to 5 + your level in
every direction, and you can ignore any sources of
magical energy you’re already aware of. Ignore all
barriers; you can detect magic through walls, doors,
and such.

Gusto is your divining rod.

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Yeah!

ANYONE can see! But I can see magical properties of things through walls.

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Gusto-Wan Kenobi said:

"I felt a great disturbance behind that wall, as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened . . . you open the door"

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escushion said:

Why not just have Adia look?

No, I agree, although none of us had the specifics for it. Now that you've posted them, we can figure it out at the time of needing to make a check rather than everyone jumping in to roll their 20s and pitiful modifiers.

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Saryon has a better perception check actually.

It would be good to list the top 2 rolls per skill, so that when we are limited in time and aren't separated, we have specific people to go to to maximize our chances to success. If the DM allows mass rolls, than that's another thing all together.

Looking forward to Thursday!

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Don't forget cooperation, people. =P

My 2 highest are Bluff at +11 and Thievery at +9. Or 8. I'll check later. Arcana is +7.

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Trained:

Arcana +9
Diplomacy +7
Insight +6
Streetwise +8

I also have racial/background bonuses to Acrobatics, Intimidate, and Thievery, but those scores are nothing to write home about.

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Athletics +9
Endurance +8
Intimidation +7
History +2


That's all the modifiers I got to skills.

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That's all the modifiers I got to skills.

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Oh, Grendmir.