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So I just spoke with the designer...

Sep 8, 2009#1

Dave

So I just spoke with a designer who is going to be giving me a price quote on a redesign on Halforums. The redesign mostly based on Olorin's color palettes. But he asked what type of sites we would like us to look like. Not copy, but look like.

Find a site and paste the link here!

Sep 8, 2009#2

Dave

AmorousEyes said:
No website suggestions, you should do what you feel is best.

Though it would seem obvious you should go with a clean (but not business-y) look. Bright background instead of black, nothing too experimental ("where the hell is my forum link hiding at! Wait.. it's this .. round blue blob on the bottom right? wtf?"), yada yada.

One question..

Flash? Y/N

Probably not.

Sep 8, 2009#3

Alucard

What's wrong with how it is? I prefer the current design except for all the silly sub categories.

Sep 8, 2009#4

Twitch

The main page, not the forum.

Sep 8, 2009#5

SpecialKO

AmorousEyes said:
Bright background instead of black

This right here. Bright text on dark backgrounds is fine for carefully designed advertising displays, but it's painful to actually read.

Sep 8, 2009#6

Ross

TeKeo said:
AmorousEyes said:

Bright background instead of black

Click to expand...

This right here. Bright text on dark backgrounds is fine for carefully designed advertising displays, but it's painful to actually read.

This.

Sep 8, 2009#7

Espy

Clean and simple. Not a billion links. Look at how Apple (yes, yes, one button mouse, etc, etc) has their homepage:http://www.apple.com/
Clean and sleek. That's what we need.

Sep 8, 2009#8

AshburnerX

NO FLASH. We don't need flash... fuck, 9 out of 10 websites that USE flash don't need flash.

Sep 8, 2009#9

Alucard

I liked the design with the moon and that blueish background and the easy to get forum section instead of this now. Navigating here is too tedious and well boring.

Plus what happened to my post count?! It was higher before this restructering

Sep 8, 2009#10

Shegokigo

Post counts are gone, but Dave hasn't figured out how to remove them.

Sep 8, 2009#11

Andromache

http://www.checklandkindleysides.com/

inspiration only, natch.

Sep 8, 2009#12

Alucard

Khannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Sep 8, 2009#13

JCM

AshburnerX said:
NO FLASH. We don't need flash... fuck, 9 out of 10 websites that USE flash don't need flash.

THIS.

Sep 8, 2009#14

Andromache

http://www.apple.com/

ok, now I'm just being silly/pro furry

Sep 9, 2009#15

Kitty Sinatra

Espy said:
Look at how Apple (yes, yes, one button mouse, etc, etc) has their homepage:http://www.apple.com/

Sep 9, 2009#16

JCM

Gruebeard;250811][quote=Espy said:
Look at how Apple (yes, yes, one button mouse, etc, etc) has their homepage:http://www.apple.com/

What's funny here is that I'm the one always doing the one button mouse gag yet in the previous thread Dave made on this topic, I put in a vote for using Apple's site as inspiration.

Yes, I vote for the one button mouse. Less complicated that way.[/QUOTE]Guess thats another vote from me.

For using the site as inspiration, that is, not the %$^# mouse I had to endure during my years as a Mac user.

Sep 9, 2009#17

phil

Like I said in the last one I think it should be, layout wise, like a webcomic.

Personally I really enjoy the layouts of LICD and Ugly Hill.

Our banner would go over the top, in place their banner ads. Under that we have our big feature, maybe it's today's Theater Hopper, or a new Juski sketch or CG on the ukulele.

Under that are some of the new topics in the forum or maybe even the hot ones.

On the side, I like how LICD has links to social network stuff. I think we should do similar. Links to the twitter, a facebook group or a myspace page. Under that we would have links to the webcomics we've gathered into the hub or some of our own sites like Zen's blog or Gasbandit's site and stuff.

Under all of that we could have just miscilanious links. Maybe the new arcade game, a link to the conquest system, the WoW guild site or even just links to specific forums like strait into the Games forum.

Sep 9, 2009#18

Covar

phil said:
Like I said in the last one I think it should be, layout wise, like a webcomic.

Personally I really enjoy the layouts of LICD and Ugly Hill.

Our banner would go over the top, in place their banner ads. Under that we have our big feature, maybe it's today's Theater Hopper, or a new Juski sketch or CG on the ukulele.

Under that are some of the new topics in the forum or maybe even the hot ones.

On the side, I like how LICD has links to social network stuff. I think we should do similar. Links to the twitter, a facebook group or a myspace page. Under that we would have links to the webcomics we've gathered into the hub or some of our own sites like Zen's blog or Gasbandit's site and stuff.

Under all of that we could have just miscilanious links. Maybe the new arcade game, a link to the conquest system, the WoW guild site or even just links to specific forums like strait into the Games forum.

This.

Sep 9, 2009#19

Ross

Covar;250918][quote=phil said:
Like I said in the last one I think it should be, layout wise, like a webcomic.

Personally I really enjoy the layouts of LICD and Ugly Hill.

Our banner would go over the top, in place their banner ads. Under that we have our big feature, maybe it's today's Theater Hopper, or a new Juski sketch or CG on the ukulele.

Under that are some of the new topics in the forum or maybe even the hot ones.

On the side, I like how LICD has links to social network stuff. I think we should do similar. Links to the twitter, a facebook group or a myspace page. Under that we would have links to the webcomics we've gathered into the hub or some of our own sites like Zen's blog or Gasbandit's site and stuff.

Under all of that we could have just miscilanious links. Maybe the new arcade game, a link to the conquest system, the WoW guild site or even just links to specific forums like strait into the Games forum.

This.[/QUOTE]
Phil gets +1 internet.

Sep 9, 2009#20

North_Ranger

Covar;250918][quote=phil said:
Like I said in the last one I think it should be, layout wise, like a webcomic.

Personally I really enjoy the layouts of LICD and Ugly Hill.

Our banner would go over the top, in place their banner ads. Under that we have our big feature, maybe it's today's Theater Hopper, or a new Juski sketch or CG on the ukulele.

Under that are some of the new topics in the forum or maybe even the hot ones.

On the side, I like how LICD has links to social network stuff. I think we should do similar. Links to the twitter, a facebook group or a myspace page. Under that we would have links to the webcomics we've gathered into the hub or some of our own sites like Zen's blog or Gasbandit's site and stuff.

Under all of that we could have just miscilanious links. Maybe the new arcade game, a link to the conquest system, the WoW guild site or even just links to specific forums like strait into the Games forum.

This.[/QUOTE]

Seconded. Also, phil gets "One Free Beer in Finland" ticket from me.

Sep 9, 2009#21

Dave

Here's what I sent to the designer. Some of it will sound very familiar to Phil...

Dave said:
I looked around and found a few sites that were kind of like what I wanted and came up with some "samples".

www.apple.com
- Very simple. Each tab would have something different and we could add/subtract tabs/links as needed.

http://leasticoulddo.com/
- Without the comic, of course. Our banner would go over the top, in place their banner ads. Under that we have our big feature. Under that are some of the new topics in the forum or maybe even the hot ones. On the side, I like how LICD has links to social network stuff. I think we should do similar. Links to the twitter, a facebook group or a myspace page. Under that we would have links to the webcomics we've gathered into the hub or some of our own sites.

http://uglyhill.com/
- Again without the comic.

As you can see, we don't want to have a lot of clutter. Simple navigation to the forum and information about what they expect if they partner with us.

Sep 9, 2009#22

fade

AmorousEyes said:
No website suggestions, you should do what you feel is best.

Though it would seem obvious you should go with a clean (but not business-y) look. Bright background instead of black, nothing too experimental (\"where the hell is my forum link hiding at! Wait.. it's this .. round blue blob on the bottom right? wtf?\"), yada yada.

One question..

Flash? Y/N

Sep 9, 2009#23

Dave

Fade that's GREAT! Why didn't you speak up before? I'd rather pay someone from here than an outside contractor that I think is going to price us through the roof.

Sep 9, 2009#24

Andromache

Can we have loud flash music that you cant turn off and seizure unducing graphics? Please? The internet needs more of that!

Sep 9, 2009#25

AshburnerX

Sep 9, 2009#26

phil

North_Ranger;250990][quote=Covar;250918][quote=phil said:
Like I said in the last one I think it should be, layout wise, like a webcomic.

Personally I really enjoy the layouts of LICD and Ugly Hill.

Our banner would go over the top, in place their banner ads. Under that we have our big feature, maybe it's today's Theater Hopper, or a new Juski sketch or CG on the ukulele.

Under that are some of the new topics in the forum or maybe even the hot ones.

On the side, I like how LICD has links to social network stuff. I think we should do similar. Links to the twitter, a facebook group or a myspace page. Under that we would have links to the webcomics we've gathered into the hub or some of our own sites like Zen's blog or Gasbandit's site and stuff.

Under all of that we could have just miscilanious links. Maybe the new arcade game, a link to the conquest system, the WoW guild site or even just links to specific forums like strait into the Games forum.

This.[/quote]

Seconded. Also, phil gets "One Free Beer in Finland" ticket from me.[/QUOTE]

Feel free to mail me a hoegaarden. It's a bitch and a half to find one over here.

also @crone Only if the music is amazingly annoying and starts at such a volume as to scare people using headphones shitless.

Sep 9, 2009#27

AshburnerX

AmorousEyes;251209][quote=AshburnerX said:

Why isn't this animated??[/QUOTE]

Heart-attacks. All of them.

Sep 9, 2009#28

fade

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not actually saying that salty weird European licorice is somehow better than the (extremely disgusting) black licorice we have here are you? If I wanted salty candy, I'd eat ... well nothing.

Sep 9, 2009#29

Vytamindi

I like that fake liquorice.

You know, Twizzlers?

Sep 9, 2009#30

phil

what? :lolwut:

Sep 9, 2009#31

fade

AmorousEyes;251242][quote=fade said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not actually saying that salty weird European licorice is somehow better than the (extremely disgusting) black licorice we have here are you? If I wanted salty candy, I'd eat ... well nothing.

As I've explained to Aba in IRC, we have tons of it here. Penis shaped, car shaped, cat shaped, salty/sweet, 100's of kinds of black licorice: http://bit.ly/pFfDD

And yes, the penis shaped ones are sold in any candy store and kids love putting them in their mouths. They're actually quite tasty.

Personally I'm not a fan of the salty kind but to say ALL licorice is salty is wrong.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say that. I said it was all gross, but the salty kind was even grosser.

Sep 9, 2009#32

Olorin

Just throwing this in here

Perhaps a bit too much durr going on, and pretty simplistic, but at least there aren't any gay asians around this time

Sep 9, 2009#33

phil

Olorin said:
Just throwing this in here

Perhaps a bit too much durr going on, and pretty simplistic, but at least there aren't any gay asians around this time

I really like that. The only big thing I would change is to put our logo in place of the empire craft ad. I think we need to advertise ourselves more at this point.

Little things I might change would be instead of :Leyla:

being on all the buttons, maybe change it up for them. :Leyla:

is a good forum one, but we could use others for the other links, like if one goes strait to the arcade or one goes to your personal user page.

Those news boxes would be great places for our current events stuff. Site news (Dave dies of swine flu! Zenmonkey goes mad with new found power and responsibilities!) and current artist pimping

Last nitpick though, needs more gay Asian men.

Sep 9, 2009#34

Olorin

I completely agree that mixing up the buttons a bit would be a good idea. Maybe I (or someone else) could come up with some smileys that are similar to :Leyla:

but different.
And maybe the banner could be changed to a skyscraper one on the right side instead of at the top.

Sep 9, 2009#35

Vytamindi

Sep 9, 2009#36

phil

005, the pacman one would be the perfect arcade link

Sep 9, 2009#37

Dave

So I already sent a PM to Fade. Olorin, how much would you charge to build this with Fade & Ame?

Sep 9, 2009#38

phil

Don't accept anything less than 3 pigs and his daughter's hand. Preferebly the left one!

Sep 9, 2009#39

HoboNinja

fade;251071][quote=AmorousEyes said:
No website suggestions, you should do what you feel is best.

Though it would seem obvious you should go with a clean (but not business-y) look. Bright background instead of black, nothing too experimental (\"where the hell is my forum link hiding at! Wait.. it's this .. round blue blob on the bottom right? wtf?\"), yada yada.

One question..

Flash? Y/N

NO FLASH. I hate flash sites with a passion. I can safely say that most people would echo that sentiment.

If you guys want/need help, I used to be a webdesigner in college (yeah, that long ago) professionally, and I still do it on the side. I'm proficient in PHP, MySQL, HTML, and CSS. YOu can see sites I've done at http://www.lafayetteswimteam.com (wordpress based, if you're still going that way) http://www.swlgs.org (also wordpress), http://www.fadecomic.com (which has a lot of homebrew php and javascript software on it) http://egg.louisiana.edu (see http://egg.louisiana.edu/wiki for an example of a mediawiki style I rolled).

Also, I agree with AME on the whole dark on light thing. Light on dark smells like 1998.[/QUOTE]

So you live in Lafayette? My step-brother is from there, I have only been there once or twice to pick him up for him to visit here but it was pretty cool I guess. I hate that like big bridge thing/highway we had to go on over the swamps and shit though... like wtf do you do if your car breaks down? There are no side lanes to pull off onto and shit its like miles and miles long...

Sep 9, 2009#40

Covar

phil said:
Don't accept anything less than 3 pigs and his daughter's hand. Preferebly the left one!

pfft. you want the right one. the left is unclean.

Sep 9, 2009#41

Olorin

Dave said:
So I already sent a PM to Fade. Olorin, how much would you charge to build this with Fade & Ame?

Well, I can't guarantee that I'll do anything, because I'm currently busy with a big game design project for a client of mine. So any time spent on Halforums is when I'm bored or don't feel like doing anything else. But if you would be willing to pay me, the cost of a game would be enough for me.

Sep 9, 2009#42

Dave

Olorin said:
But if you would be willing to pay me, the cost of a game would be enough for me.

You mean like an automatic contest win thing? Holy shit! I'd go for that in a heart beat!

Sep 9, 2009#43

Olorin

Dave said:
You mean like an automatic contest win thing? Holy shit! I'd go for that in a heart beat!

I wouldn't want to 'steal' someone else's prize, but yeah that's what I mean

Sep 9, 2009#44

phil

Rigged contest scandal! Did Olorin really win October's Design our website contest? Was it all just a sham? News at 11!

Sep 9, 2009#45

Andromache

i think what Dave's trying to say is that getting a visual designer for the price of a game is a literal steal.

Sep 9, 2009#46

Dave

That's pretty much exactly it.

---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:11 PM ----------

But I'd also feel guilty.

Sep 9, 2009#47

Rob King

Hey Dave, if you ever need someone to browse the forums a bit, maybe post a little ... I'd be glad to do it for a game. I'm that cheap.

Sep 9, 2009#48

Dave

AmorousEyes;251418][quote=Dave said:
That's pretty much exactly it.

---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:11 PM ----------

But I'd also feel guilty.

Make it two games?

[/QUOTE]

Maybe he's always wanted to play D&D 4e and would do it for the price of all of my books.

Sep 9, 2009#49

phil

Rob King said:
Hey Dave, if you ever need someone to browse the forums a bit, maybe post a little ... I'd be glad to do it for a game. I'm that cheap.

I'll do it for a cheaper game!

Sep 9, 2009#50

Dave

A document not found? Awesome!

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