Dammit.Chazwozel said:Stop. Collaborate and Listen... Ice Ice Baby.
OH! Foodie stuff, that would be pretty fun!LittleSin said:I'd be more than happy to, I dunno, post my recipes for things as I bake/cook them or review the random poop that my friends tell me about.
As I said before, I'd love to contribute. I've been wanting to get back into writing and this would be a wonderful opportunity. When you get to brainstorming, I'll be sure to throw in my own thoughts.Rob King said:Dammit.Chazwozel said:Stop. Collaborate and Listen... Ice Ice Baby.
In my defense, it was late.
And to those who wonder what collaborating would mean, it could mean one of several things. First and foremost, would be brainstorming, with regards to the precise direction the plot goes, as well as perhaps adding your own thoughts to the setting in general. I envision setting number one as a setting where boats never gained dominance because airships are more practical in the island chain. But I could be talked out of it.
The other thing I was thinking, was possibly having two or three writers, each with their own storyline taking place in the same setting, intersecting here and there, but largely separate, showing the broad scope of the world. If at all possible, I think it would be great for there to be a few characters, each on a different side (and with a different perspective) on the conflict. (Again, operating assuming that setting 1 flies)
And LittleSin ... I could definitely get on board with a cooking blog. Cooking and eating are two things I love to do. I'd definitely read, and maybe even contribute, if such things were needed!
Two things:Rob King said:Dammit.Chazwozel said:Stop. Collaborate and Listen... Ice Ice Baby.
In my defense, it was late.
And to those who wonder what collaborating would mean, it could mean one of several things. First and foremost, would be brainstorming, with regards to the precise direction the plot goes, as well as perhaps adding your own thoughts to the setting in general. I envision setting number one as a setting where boats never gained dominance because airships are more practical in the island chain. But I could be talked out of it.
The other thing I was thinking, was possibly having two or three writers, each with their own storyline taking place in the same setting, intersecting here and there, but largely separate, showing the broad scope of the world. If at all possible, I think it would be great for there to be a few characters, each on a different side (and with a different perspective) on the conflict. (Again, operating assuming that setting 1 flies)
And LittleSin ... I could definitely get on board with a cooking blog. Cooking and eating are two things I love to do. I'd definitely read, and maybe even contribute, if such things were needed!
I'll admit that the airship thing is mostly just my own fancy. I'm not 100% married to the idea of airships, but I was wondering if there were some logic one could apply that would make airships more reasonable. The only situation that I could come up with is that there are boats, but the island chain is difficult to navigate on the sea. Undersea ridges and coral reefs that make boat travel unreliable at best, dangerous at worst, mean that this new world is more invested in the airship concept than the old europe-esque nations. Perhaps there are a few dozen sea-lanes where boats are easier to use, but their relative uselessness in other regions has pushed the development of the airship.Garbledina said:First, I don't think that the 'few boats' thing would be good, if only because (I know it's fiction, but) it's logically ridiculous. I will admit now, however, I am one of those people. Boats are older and cheaper than flight, and I just don't believe any society would take to the skies before having a decent mastery of moving people across water. Not to mention a society that movies between islands all the time? Boats can fit more people for less cost (not just financial; resource-wise as well). Also, boats are more awesome than anything that flies anyways. And it's not that I'm opposed to airships or what have you, they're cool and I wouldn't be against their utilization, but... moreso than boats? I'd raise an eyebrow.
Rob! You are in Newfoundland! You shall be my forum guinea pig!...that is if you are in the St.John's/Paradise area.Rob King said:Dammit.Chazwozel said:Stop. Collaborate and Listen... Ice Ice Baby.
In my defense, it was late.
And to those who wonder what collaborating would mean, it could mean one of several things. First and foremost, would be brainstorming, with regards to the precise direction the plot goes, as well as perhaps adding your own thoughts to the setting in general. I envision setting number one as a setting where boats never gained dominance because airships are more practical in the island chain. But I could be talked out of it.
The other thing I was thinking, was possibly having two or three writers, each with their own storyline taking place in the same setting, intersecting here and there, but largely separate, showing the broad scope of the world. If at all possible, I think it would be great for there to be a few characters, each on a different side (and with a different perspective) on the conflict. (Again, operating assuming that setting 1 flies)
And LittleSin ... I could definitely get on board with a cooking blog. Cooking and eating are two things I love to do. I'd definitely read, and maybe even contribute, if such things were needed!
Looking forward to it!TDK1987 said:I've almost finished the first episode of an animated web series I’m working on called "Half Full". I started developing the thing 5 years ago, I didn't pinch the name from Half Pixel/Half Forum or anything crazy like that.
...yeah I’ve been lurking for a long time now.. Since the image forums I think *walks backwards into the shadows*
Or nice and simply, there aren't enough good docking locations? Perhaps the islands are geographically extreme, eg. Very shallow beaches so any deep hulled boats (ie. the sorts of boats that could cover the open water between islands) can't get near enough to the shore, say the beaches are a few miles deep? Or the opposite, and the islands are all surrounded by high cliffs, perhaps so high they invoke insanity just to look at them (been done? :tongue: ), so only one or two of the islands have suitable harbours, making boats rare (people from the other islands are always surprised to see them, like people from a landlocked area who've never seen the sea before).Bubble181 said:It's pretty sociocentric to think there's no reason why a culture couldn't evolve flight before seafaring - or couldn't ifnd it more convenient.
How about a world with different physical constants? Chaning the air pressure and gravity about a bit can make flight far easier to accomplish. Or, to return to a perfectly normal world, it's a cultural that's started existence far, far away from the sea? Plenty of quite advanced cultures never evolved any sort of ships beyond canoes. A third perfectly viable option would be some sort of religious/cultural taboo. Perhaps sailing on water is taunting the demons that live under the surface. Perhaps the Gods dwell under the ocean. There're cultures evolved right next to mountain ranges that never went up there because the peaks were the Gods' domain; this isn't far-fetched at all.
How about simply a location where wood is relatively sparse; or the only types of wood available are too hard/brittle/whatnot to carve and use decently? Most other tools can be made from stone or steel; making a simple boat out of one of these is far more difficult (yes, a steel hull will float...But not as easily as a wooden one. Stone...No.)
Natural dangers? Some sort of sea-creature that preys on something similar to ships; causing it to be quite dangerous to sail. Heck, as already mentioned - simply difficult-to-navigate waters.
I am indeed in the St. John's area. Robokommodo (he lurks a lot more than posts) is also in the area. I can't speak for him, but I'd love to be a guinea pig. Well ... for your your food. Not for things like Shego's male-genocide program.LittleSin said:Rob! You are in Newfoundland! You shall be my forum guinea pig!...that is if you are in the St.John's/Paradise area.
I'd also say that the best explanation of flight before sea travel would be poor docking conditions or poor sea conditions.Mr_Chaz said:Or nice and simply, there aren't enough good docking locations? Perhaps the islands are geographically extreme, eg. Very shallow beaches so any deep hulled boats (ie. the sorts of boats that could cover the open water between islands) can't get near enough to the shore, say the beaches are a few miles deep? Or the opposite, and the islands are all surrounded by high cliffs, perhaps so high they invoke insanity just to look at them (been done? :tongue: ), so only one or two of the islands have suitable harbours, making boats rare (people from the other islands are always surprised to see them, like people from a landlocked area who've never seen the sea before).Bubble181 said:It's pretty sociocentric to think there's no reason why a culture couldn't evolve flight before seafaring - or couldn't ifnd it more convenient.
How about a world with different physical constants? Chaning the air pressure and gravity about a bit can make flight far easier to accomplish. Or, to return to a perfectly normal world, it's a cultural that's started existence far, far away from the sea? Plenty of quite advanced cultures never evolved any sort of ships beyond canoes. A third perfectly viable option would be some sort of religious/cultural taboo. Perhaps sailing on water is taunting the demons that live under the surface. Perhaps the Gods dwell under the ocean. There're cultures evolved right next to mountain ranges that never went up there because the peaks were the Gods' domain; this isn't far-fetched at all.
How about simply a location where wood is relatively sparse; or the only types of wood available are too hard/brittle/whatnot to carve and use decently? Most other tools can be made from stone or steel; making a simple boat out of one of these is far more difficult (yes, a steel hull will float...But not as easily as a wooden one. Stone...No.)
Natural dangers? Some sort of sea-creature that preys on something similar to ships; causing it to be quite dangerous to sail. Heck, as already mentioned - simply difficult-to-navigate waters.
After some consideration, I think it's going to end up being that boats did evolve first, but upon arriving in the new world, it was discovered that the sea is too brutal and unpredictable for rampant boat use. Sea lanes are quite set between the islands, and occasionally unnavigable anyhow. That could also explain why the islands were able to be settled before the old-worlders were that interested in going colonial. They got there, saw that their boats were largely useless, and wrote it off. When the settlers made advances in airship technology, they gave it a second look, and each began a campaign to woo the settlers under their respective flags.filmfanatic said:I'd also say that the best explanation of flight before sea travel would be poor docking conditions or poor sea conditions.
Though, in regards to Bubble181's talk of cultural reasons, maybe there is a religion on the islands that has their God as existing in the depths of the sea. Thus, while not everyone might believe in this religion, those who do strive to keep to the skies as not to disturb their God.
That all sounds good. It covers how ships can be used, but air travel is also prevalent to overcome the dangers of sea travel.Rob King said:After some consideration, I think it's going to end up being that boats did evolve first, but upon arriving in the new world, it was discovered that the sea is too brutal and unpredictable for rampant boat use. Sea lanes are quite set between the islands, and occasionally unnavigable anyhow. That could also explain why the islands were able to be settled before the old-worlders were that interested in going colonial. They got there, saw that their boats were largely useless, and wrote it off. When the settlers made advances in airship technology, they gave it a second look, and each began a campaign to woo the settlers under their respective flags.
So in the end, air travel is more expensive, but more reliable and versatile (not so bound to specific lanes). So in the end it'll probably be an even mix between large boats and smaller airships.
I was also imagining a conversation earlier today between someone who wanted to sail in a boat, vs. one who travels by airship. The logic of the airship-man was something along the lines of "If something goes wrong in an airship, you have the entire fall to the ocean to sort things out and make them right. If you're on a boat, you're most of the way to the grave to start with."
Following this train of thought, I also considered that more expensive boats might have backup balloons on board, in case of some calamity where sailing becomes impossible.