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Mar 19, 2012#1

ThatNickGuy

Oh dear Christ, no.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03...rtles-apparently-wont-even-be-mutant-turtles/

It's possible that next year's Turtles movie will, in fact, have alien turtles, not mutants.

From Michael Bay:
When you see this movie, kids will believe one day that these turtles do exist, when we’re done with this movie. These turtles are form an alien race, and they’re going to be tough, edgy, funny and completely loveable.

Mar 19, 2012#2

Dave

Aw hell naw.

Mar 19, 2012#3

sixpackshaker

Hopefully he just flubbed his line.

But again, it's Micheal Bay, destroyer of childhood memories.

Mar 19, 2012#4

Espy

I'll be honest, and I say this as a HUGE fan of both the original comic and the cartoon (and the first live action movie I guess, although I haven't seen it in many, many years), but... go nuts Bay. Go nuts. TMNT has been done to death and it just doesn't bug me to have a different spin on it I guess. I mean, it's Bay so it won't really matter it will still be mediocre no matter the origin story.

Mar 19, 2012#5

Covar

I'm actually kind of surprised at Nickelodeon for this. So far they've treated the property very well since they bought it.

Mar 19, 2012#6

Shegokigo

What part of this series is even "sacred" anymore? It's that old whore that's at the back of the alley. You try and remember her in her prime, when she was beautiful and made you feel so amazing, you were young, she was one of your first so you thought she was the best. As the years went on, you saw the world drag her down and beat her relentlessly. She could never catch a break, yet you remembered her fondly. Then one day, long after you forgot about her, you find out the Michael Bay put her in some new clothes and extensive make up had his way with her and you sigh and realize that she just wants to die but he won't let her. She was so close to just being a wonderful memory that you'd cherish despite the blemishes in her later years but now Michael Bay thrust her back into the lime light... the poor girl.

Mar 19, 2012#7

bhamv3

Well... now I'm sad. Thanks a lot Shegs.

Mar 19, 2012#8

fade

Ah TMNT. The single, lone example of the cartoon being better than the original comic. And by cartoon, I mean the one from the 80s-90s. This will be pretty bad.

Mar 19, 2012#9

ThatNickGuy

fade said:
Ah TMNT. The single, lone example of the cartoon being better than the original comic. And by cartoon, I mean the one from the 80s-90s.

That's a damn lie. The comic is awesome. And personally, I'm more a fan of the newer cartoon that came out around 2000.

Mar 19, 2012#10

ElJuski

I'm just going to pretend this whole alien thing didn't exist.

Mar 19, 2012#11

Yoshimickster

Okay, Michael Bay is clearly TRYING to ruin old 80s cartoon franchises. He did the same when he bastardized the Transformers, and he's doing the same now.

Mar 19, 2012#12

Overflight

I'll just say what has lately become my go-to catchphrase for this kind of situation:

WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT?

Mar 19, 2012#13

Gared

So, I'm guessing the big meme from this one is going to be a re-imagining of the title art, a la TAiNT?

Mar 19, 2012#14

Yoshimickster

Gared said:
So, I'm guessing the big meme from this one is going to be a re-imagining of the title art, a la TAiNT?

Make it so !

Mar 20, 2012#15

Gared

Believe me, if I had any graphical artistic talent, I'd be happy to. But nooooo, all of my artistic talent has to run to useless things like, playing just about every (common) woodwind or brass instrument known to North America. And the piano.

Mar 20, 2012#16

North_Ranger

Shegokigo said:
What part of this series is even "sacred" anymore? It's that old whore that's at the back of the alley. You try and remember her in her prime, when she was beautiful and made you feel so amazing, you were young, she was one of your first so you thought she was the best. As the years went on, you saw the world drag her down and beat her relentlessly. She could never catch a break, yet you remembered her fondly. Then one day, long after you forgot about her, you find out the Michael Bay put her in some new clothes and extensive make up had his way with her and you sigh and realize that she just wants to die but he won't let her. She was so close to just being a wonderful memory that you'd cherish despite the blemishes in her later years but now Michael Bay thrust her back into the lime light... the poor girl.

Soooooooooo... TMNT is Salma Hayek?

Mar 20, 2012#17

Yoshimickster

Curses, well I guess I'll just have to do it later then.

Mar 20, 2012#18

Dave

This will be like Highlander 2 where they turned something wonderful into utter crap by adding aliens to it.

And I liked the comic a little but I freaking LOVED the original role-playing game! We played the shit out of that game! One of my only really positive con experiences gaming came while GMing a TMNT game in Fargo.

Mar 20, 2012#19

fade

What internet rule is it that if it exists, there's an RPG of it?

Mar 20, 2012#20

Soliloquy

A friend of mine just registered http://fuckyoumichaelbay.com/

Mar 20, 2012#21

Shegokigo

Wow how was that not already taken?

Mar 20, 2012#22

Yoshimickster

Shegokigo said:
Wow how was that not already taken?

Because Transformers fans were too broke from buying toys to buy the rights. Were kind of a stupid fan-base that way.

Mar 20, 2012#23

Soliloquy

Now, I'm not very familiar with Transformers, but I'm curious -- in what way did Michael Bay ruin that franchise's canon?

Mar 20, 2012#24

Shegokigo

He didn't ruin the canon, he ruined the opportunity of a great nostalgic film that already had a simple enough "basis" to work with that he didn't need to rape it like Lucas raped Indy on that pinball machine.

Mar 20, 2012#25

Yoshimickster

Soliloquy said:
Now, I'm not very familiar with Transformers, but I'm curious -- in what way did Michael Bay ruin that franchise's canon?

A lot of things. After he made Optimus Prime scalp a con's face off I knew it was all wrong. Not to mention the idiocy of Sentinel Prime being EVIL! HE HAD THE MATRIX OF LEADERSHIP?! That literally contains all the wisdom of the auto-bots and yet he made a deal with the main bad-guy to enslave the human race. SENTINEL PRIME DIED A HERO BAY! I could understaned if he wer reprogrammed like when the Quintessons brought Optimus back to life, but this is completely of Sentinel's free will. What else, this is just a pet-peeve but not calling the upgraded Megatron Galvatron. They though "it would be too confusing". No it wouldn't. This is all they had to do : "Megatron, you're alive?" "Not Megatron! I have been reborn into a stronger more powerful form! I AM GALVATRON!" Armada did it. RID did it. Generation One did it. Apparently Michael Bay is too stupid to include one of the easiest lines in Transformers. Also allowing the Transformers to be basic car commercials. I can see this for Jazz, and maybe BumbleBee BUT TURNING RATCHET INTO A HUMMER CROSSES THE LINE! What do Hummer's do? DESTROY THE EARTH! What is Ratchet? THE MEDIC! And Jazz dying first? Really? The black bot dying first? Bay is a racist mo-fo. Those two ghetto bots in the sequel that can't read kinda enforce this.

Mar 20, 2012#26

Shegokigo

Mar 20, 2012#27

Yoshimickster

Shegokigo said:

Yes yes I know, but after being a Generation One fan for years I just hate that the only thing that the movies have in common with the original series were the voices. Peter Cullen's amazing voice-work can only suppress my nerd-rage so far!

Mar 20, 2012#28

Cajungal

Oh, man. I bet Jake has heard about this. He's on his way home now. I'm going to get an earful... if not tonight, than very soon.

Don't get me wrong, I loved me some TMNT when I was younger, but this doesn't affect me. I go to this fun place in my head where films I hate don't exist. Sometimes the writers and directors don't exist either.

Mar 20, 2012#29

Yoshimickster

Cajungal said:
Oh, man. I bet Jake has heard about this. He's on his way home now. I'm going to get an earful... if not tonight, than very soon.

Don't get me wrong, I loved me some TMNT when I was younger, but this doesn't affect me. I go to this fun place in my head where films I hate don't exist. Sometimes the writers and directors don't exist either.

You know what, your right! I feel the same about the Bayformers and the Star Wars Prequels.

Mar 20, 2012#30

Cajungal

Exactly. It's dangerous and irresponsible to ignore some horrible truths out there, but it's fun to do with terrible films. ^_^

Mar 20, 2012#31

Terrik

This movie is going to end up in the Terrible/Good interpretations thread, I just know it.

Mar 20, 2012#32

Yoshimickster

Terrik said:
This movie is going to end up in the Terrible/Good interpretations thread, I just know it.

It's why I made it Sir Terrik. It's why I made it.

Mar 21, 2012#33

SpecialKO

Considering all the weird things that happened to the Turtles across all the different comics series (even between volumes of the same comics series), including all the times aliens were involved, this really doesn't seem like a stretch as far a new continuities may be concerned. More worried about Bay himself being involved than TANT.

Mar 21, 2012#34

Frankie Williamson

Shegokigo said:
What part of this series is even "sacred" anymore? It's that old whore that's at the back of the alley. You try and remember her in her prime, when she was beautiful and made you feel so amazing, you were young, she was one of your first so you thought she was the best. As the years went on, you saw the world drag her down and beat her relentlessly. She could never catch a break, yet you remembered her fondly. Then one day, long after you forgot about her, you find out the Michael Bay put her in some new clothes and extensive make up had his way with her and you sigh and realize that she just wants to die but he won't let her. She was so close to just being a wonderful memory that you'd cherish despite the blemishes in her later years but now Michael Bay thrust her back into the lime light... the poor girl.

Yup.

Mar 22, 2012#35

Shegokigo

GU Comics Today:

Mar 22, 2012#36

checkeredhat

Soliloquy said:
A friend of mine just registered http://fuckyoumichaelbay.com/

I've been spreading this around.

Mar 22, 2012#37

Yoshimickster

Okay, how horrible to you think the CGI will be? I remember TMNT. I REMEMBER!

Mar 22, 2012#38

fade

I don't get Shego's comic. Is that supposed to be Michael Bay? I guess I've never seen him.

Mar 22, 2012#39

Covar

Michael Bay is Uncle Phil.

Mar 22, 2012#40

Yoshimickster

Covar said:
Michael Bay is Uncle Phil.

This just got silly. Now all I see is Michael Bay whering an Uncle Phil suit.

So, anyone else think the foot-clan is going to look incredibly complicated and pointy?

Mar 22, 2012#41

sixpackshaker

Shegokigo you made me read the last 2 months of /GU!!!!

I guess thanks...

Mar 22, 2012#42

ThatNickGuy

Yoshimickster said:
Okay, how horrible to you think the CGI will be? I remember TMNT. I REMEMBER!

So do I. And it was pretty great CGI.

Mar 22, 2012#43

Yoshimickster

ThatNickGuy said:
So do I. And it was pretty great CGI.

I don't know, the turtles heads looked off to me. Maybe it's just me.

Mar 22, 2012#44

filmfanatic

During all of these turmoil among fans about the change, let me allow give you a peaceful reminder of better times.

I present...the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film.

Mar 22, 2012#45

Ravenpoe

filmfanatic said:
During all of these turmoil among fans about the change, let me allow give you a peaceful reminder of better times.

I present...the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film.

I loved this movie so much...

Mar 23, 2012#46

Yoshimickster

I watched that movie every day on VHS as a kid. I had so many of the toys. Remember those pizza launchers? They were AWESOME.

Mar 23, 2012#47

phil

Covar said:
Michael Bay is Uncle Phil.

We...must be thinking of two different uncle phils.

Is there an uncle Phil who's nephew is neither fresh nor a prince?

Mar 23, 2012#48

Covar

Mar 23, 2012#49

Yoshimickster

phil said:
We...must be thinking of two different uncle phils.

Is there an uncle Phil who's nephew is neither fresh nor a prince?

Ah I remember when I learned that Uncle Phil was the Shredder. Total mind-fuck.

Mar 23, 2012#50

phil

WHAT

THE

FUCK.

Guys, what the fuck.

Re: the fuck. What is it, guys?

Guys uncle Phil is....the shredder?

I'm going to need a moment.

Mar 23, 2012#51

Covar

It's ok, it takes time to adjust. When you're feeling up to it I'll tell you about Grandpa Huxtable and Panthro.

Mar 23, 2012#52

Cheesy1

Mar 23, 2012#53

Yoshimickster

Think Panthro and the Shredder is weird? PINKIE PIE IS MISAMINE! From Death Note to My little pony. Also Mark Hammil is the Joker, of couse who didn't know that?

Mar 23, 2012#54

figmentPez

Mar 23, 2012#55

Frankie Williamson

<-- Is a nerd and knows it's Scott McNeil.

Who also voiced Rattrap and Dinobot from Beast Wars and Hack from Reboot and countless other cartoon characters......

SIGH.

Mar 23, 2012#56

phil

The only one I knew about was Prince Zuko is also Rufio.

Mar 23, 2012#57

Yoshimickster

phil said:
The only one I knew about was Prince Zuko is also Rufio.

While were on topic, Mark Hammil was also the fire-lord.

Mar 23, 2012#58

Norris

Yoshimickster said:
While were on topic, Mark Hammil was also the fire-lord.

On a similar note, Katara once dated Ramona Flowers (during the latter's sexy phase) and subsequently joined the League of Evil Exes.

Mar 23, 2012#59

Yoshimickster

Norris said:
On a similar note, Katara once dated Ramona Flowers (during the latter's sexy phase) and subsequently joined the League of Evil Exes.

For a second I thought you were being silly there, but then I remembered the crazy world of voice-acting. Also I went on wikipedia. Man, she has range!

Mar 24, 2012#60

ThatNickGuy

*sob* It just gets worse!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03...en-turtles-apparently-arent-teenagers-either/

Mar 24, 2012#61

Shegokigo

Un-freakin-real.

Mar 24, 2012#62

Norris

The full title is kind of a mouth full and this is not the first time they've dropped "Teenage Mutant" from the name. "Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation" was and look how that turned out.

We're boned.

Mar 24, 2012#63

Yoshimickster

...I AM CRYING RIGHT NOW! I am literaly crying as I'm typing this. Wha...what is WRONG with you Michael Bay? This better be some elaborate mean prank.

Mar 24, 2012#64

Shegokigo

Why even bother getting the franchise name?

Why not just a movie about Alien Ninjas and be done with it?

The only amusing thing about this is where I'm trying to imagine him putting in explosions in a Turtles (Next Bay update, we're not calling them turtles... they're from Tortullia so they're more "Tortullians" than Turtles) movie.

Mar 24, 2012#65

Yoshimickster

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vi...ials/34667-why-ninja-turtles-should-be-aliens

Doug Walker puts it perfectly.

Mar 24, 2012#66

checkeredhat

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=56809

The other day I reported that Peter Laird had thought Bay's alien race idea for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles could be genius, but I and many other writers did not pick up on his sarcasm.

"Did you really get out of what I wrote that I in any way, shape or form LIKE the idea of a planet of Turtles? If so, I guess I have to re-think how I express myself."

Mar 24, 2012#67

SpecialKO

Yoshimickster said:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vi...ials/34667-why-ninja-turtles-should-be-aliens

Doug Walker puts it perfectly.

"It's Michael Bay, bitch" is a great line.

Mar 24, 2012#68

Yoshimickster

So Peter Laird(the creator of the Ninja Turtles who still cares about them) fully endorses the idiocy of Bay. This ain't gonna stop the movie though will it?

Mar 24, 2012#69

Norris

Yoshimickster said:
So Peter Laird(the creator of the Ninja Turtles who still cares about them) fully endorses the idiocy of Bay. This ain't gonna stop the movie though will it?

The way you have that phrased, it sounds like you're saying he endorses Michael Bay's idiotic take, which is idiocy. I think you were trying to say he endorses the fact that Michael Bay is an idiot?

In any case, no it won't. He sold his stake in the Turtles a little while ago, saying he couldn't handle running the IP himself anymore (which is pretty reasonable, really). He's in a kind of Stan Lee position now - he's the creator, the fans will respect his opinion, but it doesn't carry any special weight with the corporate owners of the characters.

Mar 24, 2012#70

Yoshimickster

Norris said:
The way you have that phrased, it sounds like you're saying he endorses Michael Bay's idiotic take, which is idiocy. I think you were trying to say he endorses the fact that Michael Bay is an idiot?

In any case, no it won't. He sold his stake in the Turtles a little while ago, saying he couldn't handle running the IP himself anymore (which is pretty reasonable, really). He's in a kind of Stan Lee position now - he's the creator, the fans will respect his opinion, but it doesn't carry any special weight with the corporate owners of the characters.

Well yes, he endorse the fact that Michael by is an idiot! That is what I meant, and I apologize for confusion. And I wouldn't compare him to Lee, more like Alan Moore. Stan Lee is in it for the money man.

Mar 25, 2012#71

sixpackshaker

I guess Bay missed the point about TMNT being a spoof of Teen Titans and X-men.

Mar 25, 2012#72

DarkAudit

sixpackshaker said:
I guess Bay missed the point about TMNT being a spoof of Teen Titans and X-men.

And Daredevil.

Mar 25, 2012#73

Frank

sixpackshaker said:
I guess Bay missed the point about TMNT being a spoof of Teen Titans and X-men.

I guess he misses the point about a lot of things or else the giant robots in his giant robot movie might've shown up before halfway through the first movie and interrupted the film he was making about shitty teen angst.

Mar 25, 2012#74

Bowielee

Frank said:
I guess he misses the point about a lot of things or else the giant robots in his giant robot movie might've shown up before halfway through the first movie and interrupted the film he was making about shitty teen angst.

And Megan Fox's ass.

Mar 25, 2012#75

ElJuski

I mean, the formula is not that hard. Teenage. Mutant. Ninja. Turtles.

Mar 25, 2012#76

Yoshimickster

The only way I could see this being good, is if the turtles in the movie ACKNOWLEDGE they're not the real ninja turtles. Like, acknowleding their suckiness.

Mar 25, 2012#77

checkeredhat

Not saying "Teenage" in the title doesn't really say much to me. Nobody ever calls them "The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" in conversation anyway. Its always just "The Ninja Turtles".

Mar 25, 2012#78

Yoshimickster

checkeredhat said:
Not saying "Teenage" in the title doesn't really say much to me. Nobody ever calls them "The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" in conversation anyway. Its always just "The Ninja Turtles".

It makes a differnce because them being teenagers is a big part of who they were! A couple of dumb kid, rising against the odds and fighting crime!

Mar 25, 2012#79

checkeredhat

Yoshimickster said:
It makes a differnce because them being teenagers is a big part of who they were! A couple of dumb kid, rising against the odds and fighting crime!

Not including it in the movie? Yes, huge difference. Not including it in the title? No difference whatsoever. And unless someone has posted an article I missed, all this talk of them not being teenagers either, is based solely on the title.

Mar 25, 2012#80

Yoshimickster

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03...en-turtles-apparently-arent-teenagers-either/

Right there hatman.

Mar 25, 2012#81

ElJuski

wait, what? People are pissed that they're aliens.

Mar 25, 2012#82

ElJuski

That whole no-teenage thing just furthers my disappointment

Mar 25, 2012#83

Yoshimickster

10 to one odds, the turtles will be drinking beer. I frickin' HATE MICHAEL BAY!

Mar 25, 2012#84

checkeredhat

Yoshimickster said:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03...en-turtles-apparently-arent-teenagers-either/

Right there hatman.

Bleeding Cool has verified that the working title of the upcoming Paramount-Nickelodeon Turtle movie from producer Michael Bay and director Jonathan Libesman is going by the working title of Ninja Turtles

...our sources are not 100% clear on whether or not the Turtles will indeed be adolescents.

It seems to be driven by marketing. Think of John Carter and how Disney wouldn’t allow for a title with either “Princess” or “Mars”.

Yes, exactly my point. Everything in the article is speculation based on not even the title, but on the WORKING Title.

The Alien thing, he pretty much said outright. Be mad about that. This is based on a title. Its like being mad that the Dark Knight wasn't called "Batman: The Dark Knight" (Oh my god a Batman movie where there's no Batman!? FUCKYOUCHRISTOPHERNOLAN")

Mar 25, 2012#85

Norris

Yeah, the title not having "Teenage" in it is confirmed. The Turtles not being mutants in the film is currently confirmed. Them not being teenagers in the film is speculation based on the word not being in the title. Not worth getting worked up about yet.

Mar 25, 2012#86

Yoshimickster

What if the Shredder isn't a ninja? WHAT IF HE'S SOME STUPID MICHAEL BAY THING! Hold me.

Mar 25, 2012#87

ThatNickGuy

checkeredhat said:
Not saying "Teenage" in the title doesn't really say much to me. Nobody ever calls them "The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" in conversation anyway. Its always just "The Ninja Turtles".

They say "The Ninja Turtles" because it's shorter than saying the whole thing. That's not the same as actually removing the teenage or mutant parts of their mythos.

Mar 25, 2012#88

checkeredhat

ThatNickGuy said:
They say "The Ninja Turtles" because it's shorter than saying the whole thing. That's not the same as actually removing the teenage or mutant parts of their mythos.

I understand that. And as far as we know, they aren't removing the Teenage part. They just removed it from the title, likely for that very reason.

Mar 25, 2012#89

sixpackshaker

I just can't wait to see the U.S. Army invade the sewers and save the day, thus making our heroes useless.

Mar 25, 2012#90

Bowielee

I'm with the Nostalgia critic. I'm not getting worked up about it because as soon as Bay was attached to the project, I lost all interest. So, he could turn them into dragons for all i care.

Mar 25, 2012#91

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker said:
I just can't wait to see the U.S. Army invade the sewers and save the day, thus making our heroes useless.

I take that back, they will be SEALs, because they are trendy now, and fit the animal motif.

Mar 25, 2012#92

sixpackshaker

mr_thehun said:
Middle aged samurai dragons

I'd watch that.

Mar 25, 2012#93

ThatNickGuy

Bowielee said:
I'm with the Nostalgia critic. I'm not getting worked up about it because as soon as Bay was attached to the project, I lost all interest. So, he could turn them into dragons for all i care.

Funny enough, there was a part of a later season of the 2003 TMNT series with mystical aspects, like transforming into dragons:

Skip to about the 12 minute mark.

Mar 25, 2012#94

Yoshimickster

ThatNickGuy said:
Funny enough, there was a part of a later season of the 2003 TMNT series with mystical aspects, like transforming into dragons:

Skip to about the 12 minute mark.

....WOW! A clear reference, to the Japanese OVA. Weird.

Mar 25, 2012#95

Ravenpoe

How long before they make a Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad movie?

Never? Oh... ok.

Mar 25, 2012#96

Norris

Ravenpoe said:
How long before they make a Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad movie?

Never? Oh... ok.

I'm still holding out for Tatooed Teenage Alien Fighters From Beverly Hills.

Mar 25, 2012#97

Tress

Ravenpoe said:
How long before they make a Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad movie?

Never? Oh... ok.

Right after the Samurai Pizza Cats movie finally gets made.

Mar 25, 2012#98

Yoshimickster

Tress said:
Right after the Samurai Pizza Cats movie finally gets made.

Heh, it's funny because they are basically the same thing. Just Power-rangerized. Hell in the Japanese version they WERE ninjas. However, due to obvious fear of copy-right infringement, they changed them to samurai.

Mar 26, 2012#99

evilmike

What alien Turtles might look like...

(thanks to Topless Robot)

Mar 26, 2012#100

Yoshimickster

And I thought E.T. looked creepy enough!

Mar 29, 2012#101

SpecialKO

Mar 29, 2012#102

checkeredhat

Oh god, if only.

Mar 29, 2012#103

SpecialKO

checkeredhat said:
Oh god, if only.

Right?!

The only kids cartoon where the music was too epic for us to deserve.

It's practically a Michael Bay movie already.

The only way he could do better was if he made a live-action re-make of Swat Kats.

Cats in fighter jets. Having dogfights with missiles. It's motherfuckin' gold.

Mar 29, 2012#104

checkeredhat

SpecialKO said:
Right?!

The only kids cartoon where the music was too epic for us to deserve.

It's practically a Michael Bay movie already.

Oh man, exactly. Its the movie adaptation he was born to direct.

Mar 30, 2012#105

Yoshimickster

Man I remember Swat-kats. I freaking loved the skinny one's bike, that thing was AWESOME! And did anyone else find the robot gangsters...creepy as hell?

Mar 30, 2012#106

ElJuski

HA, SWAT-Kats. I'd totally try watching an episode of that again.

Mar 30, 2012#107

fade

Hey, I liked Swat Kats. If you're Gen X, Swat Kats is post puberty, so every heterosexual male who watched it probably had some furry fantasies over the reporter.

Mar 30, 2012#108

SpecialKO

fade said:
Hey, I liked Swat Kats. If you're Gen X, Swat Kats is post puberty, so every heterosexual male who watched it probably had some furry fantasies over the reporter.

Shit dude, Swat Kats is probably how some members our generation discovered they had furry fantasies in the first place!

Mar 30, 2012#109

Yoshimickster

SpecialKO said:
Shit dude, Swat Kats is probably how some members our generation discovered they had furry fantasies in the first place!

That reporter is what we in the biz call a "gate-way furry". Oh, she's just from his favorite kids show! It's all right for little Billy to have a fictional crush. 20 years later he's dressing up as Winnie the Pooh and appearing on an episode of A thousand ways to die. I HOPE YOUR HAPPY CHEETARAH!

Mar 30, 2012#110

sixpackshaker

Yoshimickster said:
That reporter is what we in the biz call a "gate-way furry". Oh, she's just from his favorite kids show! It's all right for little Billy to have a fictional crush. 20 years later he's dressing up as Winnie the Pooh and appearing on an episode of A thousand ways to die. I HOPE YOUR HAPPY CHEETARAH!

OH, Bother...

Mar 30, 2012#111

Yoshimickster

sixpackshaker said:
OH, Bother...

You can't stop furry fandom. You can only cope.

What the hell happened to Biker Mice from Mars too? The sequel series actually did well and the Rick Ungar just stopped it!

Mar 30, 2012#112

SpecialKO

I didn't see the sequel series, but I was actually told it wasn't so great.

Mar 30, 2012#113

Yoshimickster

SpecialKO said:
I didn't see the sequel series, but I was actually told it wasn't so great.

It wasn't the best thing I've seen, but I still thought it was a good show.

Apr 6, 2012#114

Yoshimickster

I was looking up the new cartoon series, and apparently Jason Biggs is going to be Leonard. I...can weirdly see that.

Apr 6, 2012#115

ThatNickGuy

Yoshimickster said:
Leonard..

This Leonard:

Or this Leonard?

Apr 7, 2012#116

LordRendar

fade said:
Hey, I liked Swat Kats. If you're Gen X, Swat Kats is post puberty, so every heterosexual male who watched it probably had some furry fantasies over the reporter.

So true.

Apr 7, 2012#117

Ravenpoe

fade said:
Hey, I liked Swat Kats. If you're Gen X, Swat Kats is post puberty, so every heterosexual male who watched it probably had some furry fantasies over the reporter.

I know a couple homosexual males who had the same fantasies over the swat kats themselves. Namely the bigger one.

As for me? I was never really a fan of the show.

Now... Gargoyles, on the other hand...

Apr 7, 2012#118

SpecialKO

...dear christ, someone needs to make sure the rights to Gargoyles aren't available to people like Bay.

Apr 7, 2012#119

Norris

SpecialKO said:
...dear christ, someone needs to make sure the rights to Gargoyles aren't available to people like Bay.

The Gargs are the wholly owned intellectual property of Disney. So the good news is they're probably safe from Michael Bay. The bad news is they're safe from everyone else too.

Incidentally, Rob Paulsen is coming back for the new cartoon, only as Donatello instead of Raphael. So speaking of Furries and things starring Rob Paulsen:

EDIT: I was just reading up on the IDW series that's running now. It changed the origins quite a bit, in a way that made them much more film friendly. But no. Michael Bay's making them aliens. Grrrrrrr. Comic creators are trying to help you film industry (seriously, at least half of the new 52 over at DC seem to have been written with "but how do we make this a screenplay" in mind)., don't make your jobs harder than they need to be.

Apr 7, 2012#120

Yoshimickster

I'd LOVE seeing Rob do Donatello. It'd be a good stretch for him.

Apr 7, 2012#121

ElJuski

I find it absolutely fascinating how much nerds love voice actors.

Apr 7, 2012#122

Norris

ElJuski said:
I find it absolutely fascinating how much nerds love voice actors.

How exactly is it any different from being a fan of a "regular" actor?

Apr 7, 2012#123

ElJuski

not at all, but for some reason nerds love slobbering over them. I think it has something to do with either the sheer amount of cartoons nerds watch, or some sort of "misunderstood, overlooked" thing internet nerds cling to so desperately.

And then there are just fans, obviously. But it's still funny as fuck.

Apr 7, 2012#124

Shegokigo

Much like jocks slobber all over Sports players?

Or under-sexed housewives slobber all over Twilight actors?

Or how general public idiots slobber all over people like the K.Kardashian?

Everyone has their vices Juski, don't know why you don't "get it" or "find it funny".

Apr 7, 2012#125

Norris

ElJuski said:
not at all, but for some reason nerds love slobbering over them. I think it has something to do with either the sheer amount of cartoons nerds watch, or some sort of "misunderstood, overlooked" thing internet nerds cling to so desperately.

And then there are just fans, obviously. But it's still funny as fuck.

Well there's also that whole "they're actually fairly appreciative of and accessible to their fanbase". That might have something to do with it.

Apr 8, 2012#126

SpecialKO

I'm guessing historical confluence. American nerd culture has always been more accepting of adults watching cartoons of any kind than other American sub-cultures, so we respect the people who make them.

If cartoons about football players had become a successful sub-culture, sports fans would probably know who the voice actors were.

Okay, possibly bad example, but you know what I mean.

Apr 8, 2012#127

ElJuski

Yar.

Apr 8, 2012#128

Yoshimickster

ElJuski said:
I find it absolutely fascinating how much nerds love voice actors.

Fans are fans dude. Were all weird, even you proby got some weird thing you obsess about. Some people are fans of pottery, others are fans of gerbil breeders. There's a people for everybody.

Apr 8, 2012#129

ElJuski

WHAAAAAAAAT

Apr 8, 2012#130

Yoshimickster

ElJuski said:
WHAAAAAAAAT

...well. I've lost this argument.

Apr 8, 2012#131

Ravenpoe

Yoshimickster said:
...well. I've lost this argument.

We should have warned you. Juski is too cool for school.

Apr 8, 2012#132

Hailey Knight

Yoshimickster said:
Fans are fans dude. Were all weird, even you proby got some weird thing you obsess about. Some people are fans of pottery, others are fans of gerbil breeders. There's a people for everybody.

Stop.

Apr 8, 2012#133

ElJuski

Hey, just because I point something out as absurd or funny doesn't mean that there's something wrong with it. But if you want me to be elitist and condescending about it to give you some proper indignation, by all means, we totally can go that route, too.

Apr 8, 2012#134

fade

That's the same problem I have. Just because I say I don't like something doesn't mean I care if you do. Knock yourself out. Hell, convince me that I should like it. I'd be all for that.

Apr 8, 2012#135

Yoshimickster

Yup....I was a dick. Sorry.

Apr 8, 2012#136

ElJuski

I mean, not really. You just told me that some people like X, other people like Y, which I was aware of. But anyway, the real villain here is Michael Bay, who gets a very special kind of rich people boner, which is the type of boner you get when you have all the money to play with the best toys and you can play with them any way you want. Like make them aliens.

Apr 8, 2012#137

Yoshimickster

ElJuski said:
But anyway, the real villain here is Michael Bay, who gets a very special kind of rich people boner, which is the type of boner you get when you have all the money to play with the best toys and you can play with them any way you want. Like make them aliens.

...this is probably the best way to describe Michael Bay. I can no longer see him as an adult now, just some kid with a lot of money. Same with Lucas, who I wish died before he could make the prequels.

Apr 8, 2012#138

SpecialKO

Yoshimickster said:
Same with Lucas, who I wish died before he could make the prequels.

As bad as the prequels were, isn't that a bit much? :confused:

Apr 8, 2012#139

Yoshimickster

SpecialKO said:
As bad as the prequels were, isn't that a bit much?

No. No it is not. Because then we would still love him as a the genius behind Star Wars who had a few flum-ups later in his career.

Apr 8, 2012#140

Shegokigo

SpecialKO said:
As bad as the prequels were, isn't that a bit much?

You've never been to redlettermedia.com have you?

Apr 8, 2012#141

Yoshimickster

It is impossible to decide what was the worst part about those movies. The characterization, Padme's out-fits, the bad action scenes, Padme's out-fits, the fact that Darth Maul had no fucking lines in the first fucking movie making him one of the most boring villains in cinema or any other medium EVER! And it din't take until the TV show for Maul to look even REMOTELY interesting. Also, how is he alive? Does his species have some weird Frieza thing going on?

But of course the worst thing was Jar Jar. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGH. I never thought I'd say this, but bring back the Ewoks! I need something subtle to wash away that obnoxiousness.

Apr 8, 2012#142

SpecialKO

Yoshimickster said:
No. No it is not. Because then we would still love him as a the genius behind Star Wars who had a few flum-ups later in his career.

So you'd rather have killed him than stopped loving him?

I think I saw this episode of Law & Order.

Apr 8, 2012#143

Yoshimickster

SpecialKO said:
So you'd rather have killed him than stopped loving him?

I think I saw this episode of Law & Order.

I didn't say kill. But maybe an...accident could occur. Yeaaaaaaaah, an accident.

Apr 8, 2012#144

SpecialKO

Yoshimickster said:
I didn't say kill. But maybe an...accident could occur. Yeaaaaaaaah, an accident.

Sorry, chose "killed" because Shego mentioned redletter.

Apr 8, 2012#145

Yoshimickster

So yeah back to the turtles. Uuuuuuuuuh...Michael Bay sucks! .....okay never mind back to Lucas. One thing I hated even more than the characterization would be when Yoda would talk in that weird way like "Not if there is anything toay about it, I am!" In the original trilogy he talked liked that in order to give off an air of senility and confound Luke. In the prequels...they made it a speech-impediment. Also, how Yoda was able to jump around like hell when fighting Count Dooku. He was only AT LEAST twenty years younger in this film maybe more. For him to be able to jump around like that at age 800 something to not being able to move much at 900 something is like being spry and active at 86 and being an invalid at 88. THAT'S NOT HOW AGING WORKS LUCAS!

Apr 8, 2012#146

SpecialKO

I don't blame Lucas for that one.

For all we know, Yoda spent like 750 of those 800 years kicking it on Coruscant with the best food made by Jedi cooks, working out at the best gyms run by Jedi personal trainers. Then he gets trapped on Dagobah, which is a giant shit-hole compared to most places, let alone the Jedi Temple. And he's clearly not really up to taking the same care of himself in that kind of environment (just look at his house).

If he hadn't been so used to the high-life, he'd probably have been fine, but he probably spent at least 15 of those 20 years peeing in the bushes outside after the refresher unit on his ship broke inside the first week of his arrival.

Apr 9, 2012#147

SpecialKO

That's because though his body ~~may be shackled~~ got real old, his mind ~~wanders free~~ remained pretty effin' awesomesauce.

Apr 9, 2012#148

Yoshimickster

I'll agree with you on the awesomesauce, but I still have trouble believin that Yoda could still move around like that in Attack of the Clones. Also, why did they need all thos jedi to fight those robots in Ep 2? Wouldn't a well-trained jedi be able to take out a few robots? In fact...how would droids be an actual threat when jedi have been proven to be able to shoot lightning? Lightning equals electricity and EMP fucks with hard-ware. So many questions....

Apr 9, 2012#149

SpecialKO

Well, they were outnumbered hundreds to one.

And no, force lightning is a Sith technique, and if there's one thing Jedi of that era were not, it was flexible in their thinking.

Apr 9, 2012#150

Yoshimickster

SpecialKO said:
Well, they were outnumbered hundreds to one.

And no, force lightning is a Sith technique, and if there's one thing of that era were not, it was flexible in their thinking.

I am pretty sure I saw Jedi use lightning in those movies. But yeah I will agree that they were not that flexible. Would it KILL one of them to carry a blaster!

Apr 9, 2012#151

Ravenpoe

Yoshimickster said:
I am pretty sure I saw Jedi use lightning in those movies. But yeah I will agree that they were not that flexible. Would it KILL one of them to carry a blaster!

Nope, the only time any Jedi are shown manipulating lightning is when Obi Wan channel's Dooku's lightning into his saber, Mace Windu reflects Palpatine's lightning back into him, and Yoda captures Palpatine's lightning to throw back at him. Lightning is a dark side technique powered by hatred.*

*Edit: expanded universe and the New Jedi Order did play around with trying to use darkside techniques while remaining in control, and even had Luke use it a few times, but by and large it was considered a dangerous practice even then.

Apr 9, 2012#152

Yoshimickster

Ravenpoe said:
Nope, the only time any Jedi are shown manipulating lightning is when Obi Wan channel's Dooku's lightning into his saber, Mace Windu reflects Palpatine's lightning back into him, and Yoda captures Palpatine's lightning to throw back at him. Lightning is a dark side technique powered by hatred.*

*Edit: expanded universe and the New Jedi Order did play around with trying to use darkside techniques while remaining in control, and even had Luke use it a few times, but by and large it was considered a dangerous practice even then.

Huh, all this time I thought that was their own lightning. Ah well, learn somethin' new every day.

One thing good to come from the prequels would be those BITCHIN' Gendy Tartakovsky cartoons. So beautiful...WHERE ARE YOU TARTAKOVSKY?!

Well back to hating on things. Did anyone else find Grievous a rather pointless villain? I mean he looked cool but I felt he was just there for the sake of being there. That and to sell toys of course.

Aug 29, 2012#153

Zappit

Michael Bay is just doing this shit on purpose. It has to be intentionally bad - he's trolling geeks.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script

Aug 29, 2012#154

sixpackshaker

wait, are you the necromancer?

Aug 29, 2012#155

bhamv3

Zappit said:
Michael Bay is just doing this shit on purpose. It has to be intentionally bad - he's trolling geeks.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/bad-buzz-on-bays-ninja-turtles-script

That's... pretty stupid.

Alright, y'know what, if he really does things like this, I'll go into the movie with the same expectations as the Transformers films. Just gimme turtles beating up bad guys. That's all I ask. Turtles beating up bad guys. You can have all the 18-year-old angst you want, you can have all the plot holes and stupid gimmicks and lame one-liners, just gimme the fights.

Aug 29, 2012#156

sixpackshaker

I thought the project was canceled. Or did they just drop the alien part?

Aug 29, 2012#157

Bowielee

bhamv3 said:
That's... pretty stupid.

Alright, y'know what, if he really does things like this, I'll go into the movie with the same expectations as the Transformers films. Just gimme turtles beating up bad guys. That's all I ask. Turtles beating up bad guys. You can have all the 18-year-old angst you want, you can have all the plot holes and stupid gimmicks and lame one-liners, just gimme the fights.

Or, you could, y'know, refuse to watch what you know is going to be a shitty movie...

Aug 29, 2012#158

SpecialKO

The first half of the summary didn't seem that bad. Even the Dimension X stuff wasn't completely excruciating, given the subject material. I just don't want Michael Bay doing it, because it will be 3 hours of gratuitous slo-mo, explosions, genuinely awful (not corny, just plain awful) lines, and completely incomprehensible fight scenes.

This is why I would be behind Michael Bay doing Biker Mice.

Aug 29, 2012#159

checkeredhat

Honestly none of that sounds too bad too me, except that it's Michael Bay doing it. Were it Christopher Nolan making those same changes, everyone would be pissing themselves in excitement.

(Including me)

Sep 2, 2012#160

Yoshimickster

checkeredhat said:
Honestly none of that sounds too bad too me, except that it's Michael Bay doing it. Were it Christopher Nolan making those same changes, everyone would be pissing themselves in excitement.

(Including me)

...yes if anyone could pull it off it would be Nolan. Hell, he made Bane sound Scottish and I was okay with it! Isn't that weird?

Sep 2, 2012#161

Bowielee

YOSHI!

Sep 2, 2012#162

Yoshimickster

Bowielee said:
YOSHI!

Indeed I am back, happiness all around. And I ain't never leavin' again.

On a similar topic, what does everyone think of the new CGI cartoon that's going to be on Nicktoons? On the one hand it's CGI, on the other hand it has from what I've read an all-star voice cast. Hell, Rob Paulsen is playing Donatello! The original Raphael! Which is kind-of a funny in-joke if you think about it, playing the silly joking character and now playing the serious geek character.

Feb 21, 2013#163

Zappit

Worse and worse...Megan Fox is April O'Neil.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/22/megan-fox-joining-michael-bays-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

Feb 21, 2013#164

Bowielee

I'd complain, but I'm not going to see it, so it won't matter to me. If y'all were smart, and if you want to end the popularity of Michael Bay, you should all stop watching his shitty ass movies. I'll bet that 90% of the people that are complaining about the movie will still go see it.

Feb 21, 2013#165

Yoshimickster

...Megan Fox? Uh...really? I'm not even criticizing her acting(which is critique worthy indeed) I just do not buy her as April O'neil. Not the worst thing to happen though, but when they cast Shia Lebeouf as Leonardo though thats when I'll start getting annoyed.

Feb 21, 2013#166

Gilgamesh

Didn't she say she'd never work with him again, saying he was akin to Hitler?

Feb 22, 2013#167

filmfanatic

Gilgamesh said:
Didn't she say she'd never work with him again, saying he was akin to Hitler?

Best I can figure is the fact that he himself isn't directing, just producing.

Still, really? Her? As April?

Feb 22, 2013#168

Tress

Bowielee said:
I'd complain, but I'm not going to see it, so it won't matter to me. If y'all were smart, and if you want to end the popularity of Michael Bay, you should all stop watching his shitty ass movies.

I did stop. Years ago. Unfortunately, that's when I learned that we are outnumbered.

Feb 22, 2013#169

CynicismKills

I wonder how Bay's going to work his "I want to hump a tank" level of military worship into this movie.

Feb 22, 2013#170

Yoshimickster

And now I'm thinking that since this is a Bay movie that he's going to but Krang in it, and his mech suit will be all clanky stupid looking.

Feb 22, 2013#171

filmfanatic

...At this point, just ignore this and watch the Nickelodeon Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon.

Feb 22, 2013#172

Yoshimickster

Damn straight. But in all honesty, I kinda wanna see it. I have never been prepared to Riff a film before- BUT NOW I AM! Now all I need are some puppets!

Feb 22, 2013#173

Gared

CynicismKills said:
I wonder how Bay's going to work his "I want to hump a tank" level of military worship into this movie.

Simple. All he has to do is make Shredder and his boys terrorists and have the turtles working with or parallel to a military/DHS squad.

Feb 22, 2013#174

Bowielee

I seem to recall reading something where Casey Jones works for some sort of elite military organization, so, yeah, his military fetish is already taken care of.

Feb 22, 2013#175

Yoshimickster

Bowielee said:
I seem to recall reading something where Casey Jones works for some sort of elite military organization, so, yeah, his military fetish is already taken care of.

G.I: Why does Seargent Jones always wear a hockey mask?

G.I: It was the last thing his father gave him before dying in Iraq.

There is a high chance this line will be in the film.

Feb 22, 2013#176

CynicismKills

Gared said:
Simple. All he has to do is make Shredder and his boys terrorists and have the turtles working with or parallel to a military/DHS squad.

In the script that I think they canned, he was Colonel Shrader and commanded the elite F.O.O.T. Soldiers. So yeah, he'll find a way.

Feb 22, 2013#177

Bowielee

Yoshimickster said:
G.I: Why does Seargent Jones always wear a hockey mask?

G.I: It was the last thing his father gave him before dying in Iraq.

There is a high chance this line will be in the film.

I'm fairly certain, he won't have any of the sports equipment gimmick.

Feb 22, 2013#178

sixpackshaker

Bowielee said:
I'm fairly certain, he won't have any of the sports equipment gimmick.

First Sports Master on Young Justice, and now Casey Jones? What is the World coming to?

Feb 22, 2013#179

Yoshimickster

sixpackshaker said:
First Sports Master on Young Justice, and now Casey Jones? What is the World coming to?

Anti-gimmick media what can ya do? At least Sportsmaster had a hockey mask though.

Feb 22, 2013#180

Charlie Don't Surf

This is going to be awesome

Feb 22, 2013#181

Frank

Yoshimickster said:
Anti-gimmick media what can ya do? At least Sportsmaster had a hockey mask though.

He also uses a javelin.

Feb 22, 2013#182

bhamv3

Charlie Don't Surf said:
This is going to be awesome

Not sure if serious.

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Feb 22, 2013#183

ThatNickGuy

Feb 22, 2013#184

Charlie Don't Surf

If you don't like Pain & Gain, then fuck you

Feb 22, 2013#185

ThatNickGuy

Charlie Don't Surf said:
If you don't like Pain & Gain, then fuck you

We weren't talking about it. We were talking about how Michael Bay is going to shit all over another classic franchise, while will likely include a lot of masturbating all over the U.S. military.

Feb 23, 2013#186

Charlie Don't Surf

He's not "Shitting all over a franchise", he's just AT THE WORST, making a version of it you don't like. He's not ripping every comic book up or trashing every copy of the third movie where they travel in time (lol).

Feb 23, 2013#187

sixpackshaker

Charlie Don't Surf said:
He's not "Shitting all over a franchise", he's just AT THE WORST, making a version of it you don't like. He's not ripping every comic book up or trashing every copy of the third movie where they travel in time (lol).

It makes it less likely that new people will be introduced to a new franchise if there is more high profile crap made out of it.

Of course Bay did sell a shit ton of toys for Hasbro.

Feb 23, 2013#188

Gilgamesh

Charlie Don't Surf said:
He's not ripping every comic book up or trashing every copy of the third movie where they travel in time (lol).

In a manner, he does. Everytime after watching the horrible movie, when you go back and rewatch the movies that were good (yes even the 3rd one) and reading the comics, your memory of the series is no longer the pristine, nostalgic, enjoyment that it was before. Now everytime you look at these things you love, you are reminded of the thing that was terrible and will forever on. It's a rain cloud of shit over your sunny day of warm memories.

And don't give me that shit about how -It's your fault if you let it affect you that way- because if he didn't make it and ruin it, then the memories would be messed with in any way. This was already clearly pointed out to you in your remake thread and you quite choose to ignore it.

Feb 23, 2013#189

Yoshimickster

I couldn't even watch the 3rd Transformers movie after hearing they made Sentinel Prime evil. THAT MAKES NO SENSE!

Feb 24, 2013#190

SpecialKO

You know, I don't mind Megan Fox as April. I think she's crazy hot, and we've seen a bunch of different variations on April over the years from totally useless to ninja-in-training, and it sounds like she would not be the worst part of the movie.

*shrug*

Feb 24, 2013#191

Bowielee

Gilgamesh said:
In a manner, he does. Everytime after watching the horrible movie, when you go back and rewatch the movies that were good (yes even the 3rd one) and reading the comics, your memory of the series is no longer the pristine, nostalgic, enjoyment that it was before. Now everytime you look at these things you love, you are reminded of the thing that was terrible and will forever on. It's a rain cloud of shit over your sunny day of warm memories.

And don't give me that shit about how -It's your fault if you let it affect you that way- because if he didn't make it and ruin it, then the memories would be messed with in any way. This was already clearly pointed out to you in your remake thread and you quite choose to ignore it.

I completely disagree with you. Shitty remakes don't tarnish my enjoyment of the original movies at all. I think it actually is your own personal issue if you let shitty movies tarnish your experience.

Feb 24, 2013#192

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
I completely disagree with you. Shitty remakes don't tarnish my enjoyment of the original movies at all. I think it actually is your own personal issue if you let shitty movies tarnish your experience.

So you're saying you've never watched the original movies and thought -It's a shame there will never be a good remake now that the new one ruined all chances of that? Imagine what could have been... now that sucks.... there won't be a good revival of this series now or possibly ever again because of how badly the remake went.... gosh, this is all there will ever be that's any good of this series?- if not, then you're probably happy with just having the original series, where I wish there would be a good remake and possibly a resurgance in something that I found nostalgically wonderful. It saddens me and alot of people I've known, to know that there won't be a future for that series because of how badly the remake went.

If you're happy just having the original and nothing more, more power to you.

Feb 24, 2013#193

Yoshimickster

While I think a bad adaptation or sequel doesn't ruin the original , it does tarnish the good name of the franchise as a whole. Take for example Dragonball GT...don't make me explain it. I still have mental scars!

Feb 24, 2013#194

Silent Bob

Is it strange that as a kid I was pissed that the Ninja Turtles movie (first one) wasn't like the cartoon show, and now I think it's probably the best adaptation of Ninja Turtles out there?

I don't think the new Ninja Turtles is going to be that terrible, especially if it has a lot of dark humor in it.

Feb 24, 2013#195

Yoshimickster

Silent Bob said:
Is it strange that as a kid I was pissed that the Ninja Turtles movie (first one) wasn't like the cartoon show, and now I think it's probably the best adaptation of Ninja Turtles out there?

I don't think the new Ninja Turtles is going to be that terrible, especially if it has a lot of dark humor in it.

Well to be fair, the first movie was a pretty good adaptation of the comic book. Ironically the show was a terrible adaptation of the comic, yet still some-how a good show. Probly cos they changed SO much that it became its own thing.

Feb 25, 2013#196

bhamv3

I remember reading the original comic as a kid and being surprised at how bloody and dark it is. I'd grown up on the cartoon and the action figures.

Feb 25, 2013#197

Bowielee

I remember looking at the first issue in the store and thinking it was the dumbest idea I'd ever heard of in my life...

Hindsight is a bitch.

Feb 25, 2013#198

Ravenpoe

It sure is a shame that the shitty Joel Schumacker batman movies ruined the franchise forever, keeping us from ever getting a good version.

Feb 25, 2013#199

Gilgamesh

Ravenpoe said:
It sure is a shame that the shitty Joel Schumacker batman movies ruined the franchise forever, keeping us from ever getting a good version.

Isn't it awesome how exceptions exist but are sadly a minority? Not to mention how long it took for anyone to fund a project after those disasters?

Feb 25, 2013#200

North_Ranger

Ravenpoe said:
It sure is a shame that the shitty Joel Schumacker batman movies ruined the franchise forever, keeping us from ever getting a good version.

Am I really the only one who didn't like the Christopher Nolan version? Because honestly, there's only so much gritty and grimdark a guy can take...

Heath Ledger's Joker though? Awesomesauce.

Feb 25, 2013#201

fade

North_Ranger said:
Am I really the only one who didn't like the Christopher Nolan version? Because honestly, there's only so much gritty and grimdark a guy can take...

Heath Ledger's Joker though? Awesomesauce.

Well I can't say I didn't like the Nolan movies, but I didn't go gaga over them. I never understood the love for Ledger's Joker. I mean let me clarify. He was well-acted, and creepy. But he was just a vanilla movie sociopath. He lacked any, well, Joker-ness. He could've been cut and pasted from any number of 90s action movies.

Feb 25, 2013#202

Gilgamesh

fade said:
Well I can't say I didn't like the Nolan movies, but I didn't go gaga over them. I never understood the love for Ledger's Joker. I mean let me clarify. He was well-acted, and creepy. But he was just a vanilla movie sociopath. He lacked any, well, Joker-ness. He could've been cut and pasted from any number of 90s action movies.

Except the whole burning of all the money just for laughs or having the hero choose to blow up one boat or the other in an attempt to drive him to insanity just like him or any of the other situations that most 90s villains would have been doing it for the money or using the boat explosion thing as a chance for a get-a-way?

Feb 25, 2013#203

fade

Well, I can see where this is going, but here's a pretty good short list I got from googling "sociopaths in the movies": http://www.hecklerspray.com/top-8-movie-sociopaths/200814973.php
The comments add a pretty good number also. The point being that the sociopath-as-villain is fairly common in the movies, and nothing really set his Joker aside as the Joker other than the makeup (in my opinion--feel free to have yours). For me, burning the money to make a point or trying to drive the protagonist insane are actually exactly the kinds of things I expected. In my opinion, driving the hero insane by presenting his wife's head in a box seems decidedly more effective than blowing up boats full of strangers.

Feb 25, 2013#204

Covar

North_Ranger said:
Am I really the only one who didn't like the Christopher Nolan version? Because honestly, there's only so much gritty and grimdark a guy can take...

Heath Ledger's Joker though? Awesomesauce.

I thought Dark Knight Rises was atrocious, and really makes all the elements I hate from begins and Dark Knight really stand out.

Feb 25, 2013#205

Tress

Covar said:
I thought Dark Knight Rises was atrocious, and really makes all the elements I hate from begins and Dark Knight really stand out.

So you didn't like the third movie in a series that you didn't like from the beginning? Fascinating.

Feb 25, 2013#206

Covar

I found the first two movies enjoyable with some really great moments and some annoying problems. The third movie was awful, and made the annoying problems of the first two movies that much more apparent.

Feb 25, 2013#207

Tress

Covar said:
I found the first two movies enjoyable with some really great moments and some annoying problems. The third movie was awful, and made the annoying problems of the first two movies that much more apparent.

Ah, that makes more sense.

Feb 25, 2013#208

Silent Bob

Ravenpoe said:
It sure is a shame that the shitty Joel Schumacker batman movies ruined the franchise forever, keeping us from ever getting a good version.

Actually, Batman Forever is very much like the comics.

Feb 25, 2013#209

Silent Bob

Anyone catch the new Ninja Turtles cartoon? It's actually pretty good.

Feb 25, 2013#210

Piotyr

Silent Bob said:
Anyone catch the new Ninja Turtles cartoon? It's actually pretty good.

Easily the best April interpretation.

Feb 25, 2013#211

Silent Bob

Feb 25, 2013#212

Charlie Don't Surf

*crashes into thread*

BATMAN FOREVER OWNS

Feb 25, 2013#213

bhamv3

Charlie Don't Surf said:
*crashes into thread*

BATMAN FOREVER OWNS

Feb 25, 2013#214

Charlie Don't Surf

Batman Forever is the second best Batman film of all time.

Feb 25, 2013#215

Yoshimickster

http://michaelbay.com/articles/blow...-bay-the-most-explosive-director-of-all-time/
Michael Bay: I’m, like, a true American.

Is it weird that when I imagine him saying that, he says it in the voice of a Valley high teenager?

Feb 25, 2013#216

fade

I like the new cartoon. Little weird to have April as a high school student, but not bad.

Feb 25, 2013#217

Yoshimickster

Yeah, the new April is cool! Now all they have to do is give her action figure a weapon that won't ever show up in the show! Because action figure.

Jun 22, 2013#218

Frank

Ladies and gentlemen, your new Shredder (Col. Schrader).

Jun 22, 2013#219

Bowielee

I swear to god, people. If you go see this, I really have lost all hope.

Jun 22, 2013#220

Frank

Normally, I would begin to get really enticed by how God awful this whole affair sounds, but then I'm reminded of just how fucking dreadful to sit through Transformers 2 was and how I can only tolerate that kind of experience once in my life.

Jun 22, 2013#221

Gilgamesh

Frank said:
Normally, I would begin to get really enticed by how God awful this whole affair sounds, but then I'm reminded of just how fucking dreadful to sit through Transformers 2 was and how I can only tolerate that kind of experience once in my life.

I still can't get myself to watch TF 2 or 3 even on Rifftrax.

Jun 22, 2013#222

Hailey Knight

Frank said:
Ladies and gentlemen, your new Shredder (Col. Schrader).

what

Jun 22, 2013#223

filmfanatic

Also, Mos Def is apparently going to play Baxter Stockman.

Jun 22, 2013#224

ThatNickGuy

filmfanatic said:
Also, Mos Def is apparently going to play Baxter Stockman.

Whaaaat?

Oh god, this is going to be a glorious train wreck, isn't it? I almost want to see it JUST to see how bad it is.

Jun 22, 2013#225

filmfanatic

ThatNickGuy said:
Whaaaat?

Oh god, this is going to be a glorious train wreck, isn't it? I almost want to see it JUST to see how bad it is.

So, just to recap...

Megan Fox as April O'Neil
Danny Woodburn as Splinter
William Fichtner as Shredder
Mos Def as Baxter Stockman
and Michael Bay is producing the movie.

...I propose we start calling this film Adolescent Genetically-Modified Martial Artist Tortoises because it's just sounding like a bad knock-off by this point.

Jun 22, 2013#226

Cog

I still don't understand why this old cartoons are so important to you. I loved them the same as you and still don't care about this films. If they are good, well good for me, if not, next please.

Jun 22, 2013#227

Hailey Knight

Cog said:
I still don't understand why this old cartoons are so important to you. I loved them the same as you and still don't care about this films. If they are good, well good for me, if not, next please.

That's how I feel, but it doesn't make sense to me to turn Shredder into a suit who was apparently a colonel if this is a movie for kids. It would make more sense for the weirdo in spikes and a purple cape to appeal if they're making a kids movie.

Jun 22, 2013#228

ThatNickGuy

Cog said:
I still don't understand why this old cartoons are so important to you. I loved them the same as you and still don't care about this films. If they are good, well good for me, if not, next please.

For me, it's not that the cartoons are important, but just how bad the Transformers movies have been. Not even bad in their fidelity to the cartoons, but just how bad they are in general as films. The more I hear about this movie, the more it sounds like it's going to be just as bad, if not worse.

Jun 22, 2013#229

PatrThom

Hey, perhaps this movie could surpass Inspector Gadget?

--Patrick

Jun 22, 2013#230

Cog

I wonder how can you live in peace because there is a LOT of bad movies in the world.

Jun 22, 2013#231

Hailey Knight

Cog said:
I wonder how can you live in peace because there is a LOT of bad movies in the world.

What? Surely you jest. I'll investigate.

gasp

He's right!

Jun 22, 2013#232

Bowielee

Cog said:
I wonder how can you live in peace because there is a LOT of bad movies in the world.

My main complaint is that I'll bet most of the forum will go and see this movie on opening weekend and contribute to it being the number one opening movie that week. They will do this knowing it will suck. They are the primary reason that Michael Bay still has a career.

Jun 22, 2013#233

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
My main complaint is that I'll bet most of the forum will go and see this movie on opening weekend and contribute to it being the number one opening movie that week. They will do this knowing it will suck. They are the primary reason that Michael Bay still has a career.

Nope, I stopped at TF1 and won't be to another Michael Bay film again.

Jun 22, 2013#234

ThatNickGuy

Bowielee said:
My main complaint is that I'll bet most of the forum will go and see this movie on opening weekend and contribute to it being the number one opening movie that week. They will do this knowing it will suck. They are the primary reason that Michael Bay still has a career.

Speak for yourself, man. I'll do the same thing I did with TF2 and 3: watch them for free. TF2 I rented while I worked at Blockbuster, TF3 I downloaded. I'll likely do the same with this.

Jun 22, 2013#235

Yoshimickster

So who else saw the script for this train crash? It seemed okay up until the part where it is revealed that Schroeder is an alien from Dimension X....yeah. Also in the original draft Krang only had like ONE line in the entire script! The MAIN antagonist! This is gonna be Rifftrax gold.

Jun 22, 2013#236

Bumble the Boy Wonder

WHY WOULD YOU SPOIL THIS

Jun 23, 2013#237

Far

Bowielee said:
My main complaint is that I'll bet most of the forum will go and see this movie on opening weekend and contribute to it being the number one opening movie that week. They will do this knowing it will suck. They are the primary reason that Michael Bay still has a career.

I'll see it because it's bad and sometimes that's good. I also get into all movies free so it won't contribute a cent.

Jun 24, 2013#238

Yoshimickster

I am probably going to see this anyway, mostly because in the terrible script I spoiled I read Bebop and Rocksteady were in it. I at least want to see if the effects live up to my imagination.

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