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Is that your gaggle of younglings? You will never have grandchildren if you let them set it directly on their laps. Won't someone think of the future children!

But Dad... what's it do?

Cute picture! But why is this in the Politics and Religion forum?

Tress said:

Cute picture! But why is this in the Politics and Religion forum?

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I was just about to ask the same thing

Ipads have become self aware and now all our bases are belong to them.

I for one welcome star trek prop resembling overlords.

Hylian said:

I was just about to ask the same thing

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Because this is the realm of understanding and tolerance, where people of differing opinions can hold civil, meaningful discussion without fear of reprisal.

--Patrick

PatrThom said:

Because this is the realm of understanding and tolerance, where people of differing opinions can hold civil, meaningful discussion without fear of reprisal.

--Patrick

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FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!!!

Tress said:

Cute picture! But why is this in the Politics and Religion forum?

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Because the recent thread about Apple's latest offerings devolved into a religious "apple fanboys are douchebags" war.

I figured I might as well start it out in the right place.

The kids were watching/reading the sesame street book, "The monster at the end of this book" with lovable furry Grover.

They did a great job on the app, and it's easily worth the $2. You can't even get the regular book for $2, and certainly not with animated Grover who reads the story to you (complete with emphasized words as he reads, so you know which word he's reading at any given moment).

Hey, videos. Sounds like you won't have to buy it:

I hated that book as a kid. What a gyp.

First Lady Puffinstuff said:

Because the recent thread about Apple's latest offerings devolved into a religious "apple fanboys are douchebags" war.

I figured I might as well start it out in the right place.

The kids were watching/reading the sesame street book, "The monster at the end of this book" with lovable furry Grover.

They did a great job on the app, and it's easily worth the $2. You can't even get the regular book for $2, and certainly not with animated Grover who reads the story to you (complete with emphasized words as he reads, so you know which word he's reading at any given moment).

Hey, videos. Sounds like you won't have to buy it:

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For the 700 bucks you spent on the iPad, the app should be free! ;-)

A lot of apps are free. Also, wouldn't that also apply to cars and laptops and homes and anything else that is more than 700 bucks?

It begins. Duhn, duhn, duhn!

Apple sucks. Anyone who like Apple sucks. Anyone who hates Apple is hip and cool.

There, we got that out of the way, let the thread continue as it was.

First Lady Puffinstuff said:

Because the recent thread about Apple's latest offerings devolved into a religious "apple fanboys are douchebags" war.

I figured I might as well start it out in the right place.

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Aww, I had been ignoring that thread. Did I miss out on the action? Damn.

Tress said:

Aww, I had been ignoring that thread. Did I miss out on the action? Damn.

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Not much action really. People got butthurt over a product. That was all.

Mathias said:

For the 700 bucks you spent on the iPad, the app should be free! ;-)

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Hehehe. It turns out that there are so many applications for the iPhone and iPad, that many people mark their apps off free for a day just to get people to download them, try them out, and review them. A few sites started tracking these "one day free" markdowns, and so far I've purchased perhaps 20-30 apps (most $1, some $2, a very few cost more) but I've received hundreds of other apps for free.

So, yeah, the ecosystem is such that for the price of the iPad and some patience waiting for the apps you want to go free, you're all set.

Tress said:

Aww, I had been ignoring that thread. Did I miss out on the action? Damn.

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It was locked. Comparisons were abounding implying that people who spent the extra money on Apple products rather than less expensive products were douchbags.

So, after a lot of soul searching, I'm finally embracing my inner douchebag.

First Lady Puffinstuff said:

Hehehe. It turns out that there are so many applications for the iPhone and iPad, that many people mark their apps off free for a day just to get people to download them, try them out, and review them. A few sites started tracking these "one day free" markdowns, and so far I've purchased perhaps 20-30 apps (most $1, some $2, a very few cost more) but I've received hundreds of other apps for free.

So, yeah, the ecosystem is such that for the price of the iPad and some patience waiting for the apps you want to go free, you're all set.

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Not to mention they have great sales like Gameloft's 99 cents for every game promotion.

Where else can you buy a portable HD French knockoffs-almost-as-good-as-the-original version of Halo, Uncharted, GTA3, GTA:Vice city, Brothers in arms, COD2, COD Black ops, Prince of Persia, etc, for 99 cents?

Its also rather idiotic to argue for only free apps, noone buys a PSPGo or DSi with as many free avaliable games like the iPad, and their games cost triple-twenty times the price of an app. Right now one can download over thousands of apps, with stuff like interactive Toy Story Books, full FPS games and even the odd lite version of a full game.

Edit: Not to mention the PSP/Wii/Ds versions of good ipad games (like Wii World of Goo/PSP Angry Birds or DS Plants vs Zombies) are terrible downscaled pixelated versions that are too expensive.

Edit 2: World of Goo came out first for the Wii, but the iPad version makes it look like a hard-to-play PS2 port.

JCM, I would say that is probably the case because people hate touch screen controllers.

Could be. Myself? I cant go back to the DS and PSP or the Wii, it feels like playing PS1 games after getting a PS2, if it were mobile and I could play Dead Space in the bus with a terrified old lady staring at it in horror.

Mind you, when we say iPad, it also applies to Android tablets like the Samsung Galaxy (which has less free educational stuff, but a few more free games).

Yeah, I got the emulators for my DROIDX (SNES/NES/GEN/GBA) etc. But I had to link my Wii-mote to it because I just could not stand the touch screen pad.

No problems there, not everyone adapts to different input methods..... I cant stand playing FPS on a console as it feels so backwards, Mouse/Keyboard or Wiimote is OK, Stylus is bearable and the Ipad swipelook is playable.

Yes, I was that guy grumbling in the corner watching my mates play Goldeneye.

Jiarn said:

JCM, I would say that is probably the case because people hate touch screen controllers.

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I imagine that for FPS and some similar types of games the touchscreen in not optimal. Further, smaller touchscreens (such as the iphone and droid phones) are simply too small to hold both the controls and the content comfortably.

However, play Plants vs Zombies, World of Goo, puzzle games, card games, etc on the iPad and you'll see a world of difference compared to a console or a computer.

First Lady Puffinstuff said:

I imagine that for FPS and some similar types of games the touchscreen in not optimal. Further, smaller touchscreens (such as the iphone and droid phones) are simply too small to hold both the controls and the content comfortably.

However, play Plants vs Zombies, World of Goo, puzzle games, card games, etc on the iPad and you'll see a world of difference compared to a console or a computer.

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For me, being from the "I dont want to turn around like an old lady in an FPS" its better than with a controller (not as good as the Wii mote, but still fast like the DS stylus).

A big dissapointment though, is that RTS games still suck for the iPad.

JCM said:

A big dissapointment though, is that RTS games still suck for the iPad.

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How is that possible? I'm not out to get an iPad until the 2nd-gen one comes out at least, but I was anticipating how awesome that would be.

They aren't that good, the ones Ive played were-
-C&C Red Alert (Best graphics, looks better than C&C:RA for PC, slow unit response and terrible multi-finger controls),
-Land Air Sea Warfare (which reminds me of Tiberian sun, its better but its kinda too easy and unbalanced, with no multiplayer.
-Quantum Collapse (Shitty homemade RTS full of bugs)

My suggestion? Wait for Gameloft's RTS StarFront, yeah like most of their games, its a clone of something else (Starcraft) but their games are pretty well-made with production values, controls and graphics better than your average PSP/Wii/DS game.

EDIT: There is also a free RTS which you fight against zombies called BioDefense, it isnt great, but its more fun the the real RTSs above

For tHose who want buttons/keypads, the PSP2 has been announced with an iphone 4-size screen + resolution, touchscreen and the gamepad from the original PSP

I must admit the NGP looks pretty sexy.

Covar said:

I must admit the NGP looks pretty sexy.

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It does, but I can't imagine the battery life will be anything pretty, though the lack of physical media will help.

NGP?

Nevermind, just googled that... looks like the battery life is the same they declared for the PSP, 4-5 hours.

JCM said:

NGP?

Nevermind, just googled that... looks like the battery life is the same they declared for the PSP, 4-5 hours.

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That's not too bad, all things considered.

Now if they could just let me trade in my UMD games/movies for free...

SpecialKO said:

That's not too bad, all things considered.

Now if they could just let me trade in my UMD games/movies for free...

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They didnt do it with the PSP-GO which was a newer version of the same handheld, doubt they'll do it with a new handheld.

Any word if you can use a Wii-Mote or other game pads for the Ipad? That alone would make it worth it to me to give it a second glance.

JCM said:

They didnt do it with the PSP-GO which was a newer version of the same handheld, doubt they'll do it with a new handheld.

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I know.

Jiarn said:

Any word if you can use a Wii-Mote or other game pads for the Ipad? That alone would make it worth it to me to give it a second glance.

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You can if you jailbreak it, but no games expect or work with external controllers. Apple controls the hardware that connects to the ipad to the degree that if you want to connect to it via bluetooth or the sync cable, you have to buy an encrypted chip from them and build it into the device that talks to the iPad. The wiimotes, obviously, don't include that chip, so you'd have to jailbreak the ipad to get rid of Apple's requirement.

Bummer, guess I'm sticking with my DROID and PSP for gaming on the go then.

Jiarn said:

Any word if you can use a Wii-Mote or other game pads for the Ipad? That alone would make it worth it to me to give it a second glance.

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Sorry dude, looks like the PSP2 is the only option if you want handheld gaming at 900+pixels, at least the games look nearer to PS3 quality than the current iOs ones

Sweet art made with the ipad, first off there is the PA strip Gabe did while his stuff was packed-
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/9/22/

Sweet art gallery with iPad-only art
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...rtStudio-and-Sketchbook-Pro-apps.html?image=1

Then there's the cover of "The New Yorker" done entirely on the iPhone
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/05/25/can-you-believe-it-new-yorker-cover-done-on-iphone-app/

*starts downloading Brushes, Adobe Ideas and Photoshop Elements*