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http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/3/8/

Considering our relative closeness to the subject matter, I found the strip funnier than usual.

Reading the news post, I think Jerry may have a bigger crush on Straub than I do. hwell:

Gusto said:

Reading the news post, I think Jerry may have a bigger crush on Straub than I do. hwell:

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GAYYYYYYYYYYYY..........

Gusto, I'm not even sure that that is possible.

And yet there it is!

So is it official that Straub divorced himself from Kurtz professionally?

They just put up their first Webcomics Weekly in around 9 months, so no, not completely.

You could call it a trial seperation though.

Kris is in Seattle right now, Scott will be there as soon as he can be, I think. They're both gonna work out of the PA offices.

ParsnipPeartree said:

Kris is in Seattle right now, Scott will be there as soon as he can be, I think. They're both gonna work out of the PA offices.

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Ah riding the coattails of PA. Nice.

ParsnipPeartree said:

They're both gonna work out of the PA offices.

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I hope not. That sounds awful.

Reading that literally gave me an intense feeling of foreboding.

The four of them get along really well, I think they're all pretty close and based off of webcasts and twitter, I think they all talk on the phone fairly often.

Fair enough, and they can all be buddies and whatnot.

But I'm sure you have friends who you wouldn't want to move into an apartment with you. hwell:

yeah.. I somehow envision Kurtz ruining the whole thing with a bad joke and him being forced out. You know he's gonna cross a line eventually by accident and piss people off.

Awesome strip. Just awesome.

ParsnipPeartree said:

yeah.. I somehow envision Kurtz ruining the whole thing with a bad joke and him being forced out. You know he's gonna cross a line eventually by accident and piss people off.

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I'm trying really hard not to be biased against Kurtz but I'm a big enough fan of the PA guys and Straub that I'm afraid he'll act as a virus to them and their business. I'm sure the PA guys will stop it from getting that far but that'll just make Kurtz more butthurt again.

The whole idea just seems like a nightmare.

I don't get the strip. Is this an inside joke?

The post was just as funny as the comic.

Gusto;350802][QUOTE=ParsnipPeartree said:

yeah.. I somehow envision Kurtz ruining the whole thing with a bad joke and him being forced out. You know he's gonna cross a line eventually by accident and piss people off.

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I'm trying really hard not to be biased against Kurtz but I'm a big enough fan of the PA guys and Straub that I'm afraid he'll act as a virus to them and their business. I'm sure the PA guys will stop it from getting that far but that'll just make Kurtz more butthurt again.

The whole idea just seems like a nightmare.[/QUOTE]

Aw you're still mad that he said he would never have your babies.

Gusto;350802][QUOTE=ParsnipPeartree said:

yeah.. I somehow envision Kurtz ruining the whole thing with a bad joke and him being forced out. You know he's gonna cross a line eventually by accident and piss people off.

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I'm trying really hard not to be biased against Kurtz but I'm a big enough fan of the PA guys and Straub that I'm afraid he'll act as a virus to them and their business. I'm sure the PA guys will stop it from getting that far but that'll just make Kurtz more butthurt again.

The whole idea just seems like a nightmare.[/QUOTE]

Well, I think most of Kurtz' problems stem from his inability to finish ideas or follow through on them. At the very least, I doubt he will make other people lazy. If anything having Robert Khoo around will be help him.

I don't get the joke either D:

I feel dumb.

I think that they are going to be fine. Scott (and Kris) could REALLY use some of the information Khoo has to offer for the business side of things. I mean, Scott has done wonderfully for himself but he did so much better when all he did was the comic and had others to handle the business side of things.

But give them a break! If you were Scott wouldn't you do this? I would do it now and I have no talents they could use! Four friends working and creating together! Why does it have to be bad?

Go Scott! Have a blast and make us all laugh.

I wanna be happy for them but I can't shake this sense of impending doom.

The dialogue seemed awkward to me. I just don't get Straub's reply in the second panel, it seems unconnected to the conversation up to that point.

Wahad said:

I don't get the joke either D:

I feel dumb.

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this ^

Kris Straub is part Egyptian.

Scott really is not a bad guy when you meet him. I know this place loves to hate him after the whole halfpixel fiasco, but I still always think back to when I had dinner with him. He was just a really nice guy, he made some mistakes, I think we all do sometimes, and I hope Mike and Jerry can help him prevent those mistakes in the future.

I think a lot of people here like or are indifferent to Kurtz here Scythe, but those who dislike him are a vocal minority. I don't hate him, I treat him like any other artist, he does some good and some bad, so I feel comfortable praising him when he does the good and criticizing when he does not.

I like Kurtz as a social person, from everything I've heard, but not as a businessman. I'm indifferent to him as an artist.

I see both Kurtz and Straub as admirable, but with faults. Straub's faults seem to be more self-directed (tragic), Kurtz's are more directed at those around him (catty). All other things being equal, the populace loves a good tragedy but hates a whiner, so Kurtz tends to get bubbled off from the rest more often (either on his own or by others). If the PA guys are taking time to make fun of Straub, they must genuinely be impressed.

--Patrick

I just want to know what the racist joke is from the last episode of PATV.

escushion said:

Kris Straub is part Egyptian.

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Then where is the crazy hair?

@Li3n;350916][QUOTE=escushion said:

Kris Straub is part Egyptian.

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Then where is the crazy hair?

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He's part Egyptian, not part stupid anime.

Gusto said:

They just put up their first Webcomics Weekly in around 9 months, so no, not completely.

You could call it a trial seperation though.

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They've also done the 3 Blamimations too recently.

I have to be honest with you, I'm a little conflicted when it comes to Straub. I mean, I like his work, most of it is if not brilliant then dang good at least. It's his association with Kurt that bugs me somewhat. It's like seeing a delicious cake on the table next to a pile of fresh shit. They don't touch or anything, they may even be under glass covers, but when you plan to take a bite out of that delicious, moist cake you can't help but think it was just a couple of inches away from that pile of shit.

Just my personal opinion.

Gross.

North_Ranger said:

I have to be honest with you, I'm a little conflicted when it comes to Straub. I mean, I like his work, most of it is if not brilliant then dang good at least. It's his association with Kurt that bugs me somewhat. It's like seeing a delicious cake on the table next to a pile of fresh shit. They don't touch or anything, they may even be under glass covers, but when you plan to take a bite out of that delicious, moist cake you can't help but think it was just a couple of inches away from that pile of shit.

Just my personal opinion.

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and the cake is chocolate ladyfingers

I am amazed by the ability to hold a grudge against Kurtz around here. You'd think he had knocked up your sister or something.

(If one of you is Angela's brother, feel free to disregard the previous comment, and I apologize for the emotional anguish that the resultant mental image inflicted.)

Well, in my defence I'd like to say it's not so much a grudge as disappointment. The fun-to-not-fun ratio in his comics has, in my perception, been dropping like a proverbial cow's tail.

North_Ranger said:

I have to be honest with you, I'm a little conflicted when it comes to Straub. I mean, I like his work, most of it is if not brilliant then dang good at least. It's his association with Kurt that bugs me somewhat. It's like seeing a delicious cake on the table next to a pile of fresh shit. They don't touch or anything, they may even be under glass covers, but when you plan to take a bite out of that delicious, moist cake you can't help but think it was just a couple of inches away from that pile of shit.

Just my personal opinion.

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Have you ever been to a McDonald's?

escushion said:

Have you ever been to a McDonald's?

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I don't eat their cakes.

North_Ranger said:

Well, in my defence I'd like to say it's not so much a grudge as disappointment. The fun-to-not-fun ratio in his comics has, in my perception, been dropping like a proverbial cow's tail.

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You compared the man to a piece of shit because his free-to-read comic sometimes isn't funny?

My new goal in life is to be this well known someday. :biggrin:

Fun Size;351097][QUOTE=North_Ranger said:

Well, in my defence I'd like to say it's not so much a grudge as disappointment. The fun-to-not-fun ratio in his comics has, in my perception, been dropping like a proverbial cow's tail.

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You compared the man to a piece of shit because his free-to-read comic sometimes isn't funny?

My new goal in life is to be this well known someday. :biggrin:[/QUOTE]

Jaysus, it was just a metaphor.

Also, I said his comic has gotten less funny. Don't put words in my mouth. Not unless they are written on chocolate chip cookies.

Fun Size said:

I am amazed by the ability to hold a grudge against Kurtz around here. You'd think he had knocked up your sister or something.

(If one of you is Angela's brother, feel free to disregard the previous comment, and I apologize for the emotional anguish that the resultant mental image inflicted.)

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This is irrelevant, as Kurtz has made no secret of his sterility. :uhhuh:

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Dude, low blow.

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Dude, low blow.

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I get it.

His comic can be both free and bad. Freedom doesn't exempt one from sucking.

Fun Size said:

You compared the man to a piece of shit because his free-to-read comic sometimes isn't funny?

My new goal in life is to be this well known someday. :biggrin:

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He's compared to a piece of shit because that's exactly what he acts like. Nothing doing with his comic strip's amusement or lack thereof.

I think it will be fine. By all accounts, Khoo runs a tight ship, and I can't imagine a pro like him letting Scott muck around in things he's not supposed to.

On the flipside, there is clearly a lot Scott could learn from the PA guys in terms of how to run his business, and as long as Scott isn't actually setting up office in their bathroom, I think this will be good for him.

I think he's getting their storage closet, at least according to this http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/pa-the-series/103/

North_Ranger said:

I have to be honest with you, I'm a little conflicted when it comes to Straub. I mean, I like his work, most of it is if not brilliant then dang good at least. It's his association with Kurt that bugs me somewhat. It's like seeing a delicious cake on the table next to a pile of fresh shit. They don't touch or anything, they may even be under glass covers, but when you plan to take a bite out of that delicious, moist cake you can't help but think it was just a couple of inches away from that pile of shit.

Just my personal opinion.

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They're friends man. I hope that even if you don't like a friend's work (and who's to say he doesn't, I don't mind Kurtz's stuff generally myself) you wouldn't fucking Peter the apostle him.

Frankie;351216][QUOTE=North_Ranger said:

I have to be honest with you, I'm a little conflicted when it comes to Straub. I mean, I like his work, most of it is if not brilliant then dang good at least. It's his association with Kurt that bugs me somewhat. It's like seeing a delicious cake on the table next to a pile of fresh shit. They don't touch or anything, they may even be under glass covers, but when you plan to take a bite out of that delicious, moist cake you can't help but think it was just a couple of inches away from that pile of shit.

Just my personal opinion.

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They're friends man. I hope that even if you don't like a friend's work (and who's to say he doesn't, I don't mind Kurtz's stuff generally myself) you wouldn't fucking Peter the apostle him.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, I've never heard of using apostles as verbs. How do you Peter the apostle someone?

Shegokigo;351150][QUOTE=Fun Size said:

You compared the man to a piece of shit because his free-to-read comic sometimes isn't funny?

My new goal in life is to be this well known someday. :biggrin:

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He's compared to a piece of shit because that's exactly what he acts like. Nothing doing with his comic strip's amusement or lack thereof.[/QUOTE]

Easy cowgirl, I was simply referring to his particular reason. I know you guys enjoy holding on to the hatred for the Kurtz for your own, personal reasons. Whatever trips your trigger.

The Kurtz hate is strong with this one. Yessssss! YEEEEESSSSSSSS! Let the hate flow through you!



(I still like Kurt.)

Honestly, I don't care about Kurtz personally one way or another. Sometimes his comic makes me laugh - other times not so much. Really, I just hate to see anyone expending energy into maintaining a hatred that really doesn't accomplish anything. It's not like Scott is out there right now thinking about us, the good times we had, the discussions of his work each day, the way he used to hold after making love.

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I...I may have said too much that time.

Fun Size,

Just sit back and watch the overreacting. That's what the internet is all about!

It's about

having

some passion

man

Yeah, I know. I'd just rather see people apply their passion to important things, like human suffering or pie.

but yes this thread has all the vibes of the crazy ex-lover that will just NOT let it fucking go. All becoming fans of "YOU SHOULDVE JUST NOT LIED, JACKASS" and "THE MORE MEN I DATE THE MORE I LOVE MY DOG" on Facebook before proclaiming they're going to "Singles Awareness Day".

I met Kurtz once in person. He seemed alright, if a little aloof and a little arrogant. Otherwise, he was nice enough, and even offered us a free skull doll for my boy.

Online, that "little" aloofness and arrogance gets blown way out of proportion, oftentimes into total douchbaggery. I get the impression that he actively cultivates this image, so, meh, whatever.

I just think he's one of those people who come across differently than they intended online. I knew a girl who was the sweetest and nicest person you could ever meet but customers HATED her on the phone because they thought she was a total bitch.

I think Scott is the same way on the net. He's misunderstood a lot and that gets blown way out of proportion, then he compounds it by getting defensive and trying to explain himself. He doesn't LIKE looking like the bad guy so he tries to change minds and we all know how easy that can be.

Also, I hardly think people are devoting huge amounts of seething hatred. I think people exaggerate emotion to make up for the lack of inflection in text. Hate = irritated once mildly, etc.

All I know about Scott Kurtz is that I haven't checked PVP in weeks.

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Also, I hardly think people are devoting huge amounts of seething hatred. I think people exaggerate emotion to make up for the lack of inflection in text. Hate = irritated once mildly, etc.

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Mostly this.

Personally I don't think too highly of kurt just because he comes across as... well it's hard to find the right word. He doesn't seem like the kind of man you can could disagree with, especially when it comes to webcomics, just because he wouldn't let it go.

He often reminds me of a toned down Bobby Crosby, in a way.

phil;351640][QUOTE=fade said:

Also, I hardly think people are devoting huge amounts of seething hatred. I think people exaggerate emotion to make up for the lack of inflection in text. Hate = irritated once mildly, etc.

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Mostly this.

Personally I don't think too highly of kurt just because he comes across as... well it's hard to find the right word.[/QUOTE]

Pioneer? Tastemaker?

It's easy for you all to just dismiss Kurtz' actions. Kurtz peed in my cheerios, mang. I was looking forward to those cheerios! Like, what the fuck else was I supposed to consume?

GATDAMN.

Philosopher B. said:

It's easy for you all to just dismiss Kurtz' actions. Kurtz peed in my cheerios, mang. I was looking forward to those cheerios! Like, what the fuck else was I supposed to consume?

GATDAMN.

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Dude, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.

My bad everyone. Fuck Kurtz.

Fun Size;351828][QUOTE=Philosopher B. said:

It's easy for you all to just dismiss Kurtz' actions. Kurtz peed in my cheerios, mang. I was looking forward to those cheerios! Like, what the fuck else was I supposed to consume?

GATDAMN.

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Dude, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.

My bad everyone. Fuck Kurtz.[/QUOTE]

And take your leftovers? Hell, no.

I thought this thread was about Kris Straub. If it were about Kris Straub and his recent move to Seattle I'd say I'm looking forward to future collaborations between him and the PA guys. And if Scott moves up there (or when) I think there will be some fantastic material produced. Regarding Scott, I find in his video and audio streams a very likable individual. He and Straub together are comic gold.

Thank you, Steve. I concur.

I don't think Kurtz would move. I remember from old podcasts about how he wasn't going to leave his dad.

Steve said:

I thought this thread was about Kris Straub. If it were about Kris Straub and his recent move to Seattle I'd say I'm looking forward to future collaborations between him and the PA guys. And if Scott moves up there (or when) I think there will be some fantastic material produced. Regarding Scott, I find in his video and audio streams a very likable individual. He and Straub together are comic gold.

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escushion said:

I don't think Kurtz would move. I remember from old podcasts about how he wasn't going to leave his dad.

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And on the new one he said he is heading up to Seattle in 2 months.