TPM: Deport U.S. citizen?? how about microchip implant?

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Chibibar

Ok. this kinda disturbs me a little. First starts off deporting people who are born from illegal immigrant parents. Note: if you are BORN in the U.S. you are a citizen regardless of your parents' status.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/un-american-activities/

now, this particular senator is trying to find ways to deport children of illegal immigrant. Not sure of the method but I don't like the mentality of this.
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmem...ts-are-illegal-immigrants-video.php?ref=fpblg

Last.... Lets microchip the illegal immigrant??? ummm....... I think that HAS to be illegal somewhere.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/04/under_the_radar_in_this.php?ref=fpblg

My parents were students in the U.S. and NOT resident at the time when I was born. So I guess technically, they are legal "immigrant" but not really residence. Later they DID get green cards and citizenship. I am concern of the wording. Technically, my parents originally were NOT immigrant, they are here for school and suppose to go back to their respective country, so does that make me illegal and need to be deported?
 
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Chibibar

Heh. The bill doesn't seem to cover how many generation back (if any) basically, is it retroactive? or maybe possible all future kids?
 
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This smacks of a teabagger's wet dream publicity stunt. It'll never pass and in the event it ever gets through (probably in Arizona) it'll be struck down and right quick.

What I think is funny is that the people calling for all of this stuff are the same ones who call Obama socialist and fascist. Apparently the word and irony escape them entirely.
 
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Chibibar

Dave said:
This smacks of a teabagger's wet dream publicity stunt. It'll never pass and in the event it ever gets through (probably in Arizona) it'll be struck down and right quick.

What I think is funny is that the people calling for all of this stuff are the same ones who call Obama socialist and fascist. Apparently the word and irony escape them entirely.
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this is what we get when only like what? 20%? of register voters actually vote.

I think last year's election was the highest at 56% or something like that? (I'm too lazy to look it up)

edit: it is funny. I was talking to a faculty that wouldn't vote cause he believe he can't choose between lesser of two evil, but yet he felt that he can complain about the government. I told him, if you don't participate or even choose your own candidate how can you complain when you don't engage in the system? Of course this person also believe that Anarchy is the best solution to be in or Monarchy.
 
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Kitty Sinatra

Hey now. Living in a Monarchy is awesome. At least it was back when the Queen was young and beautiful.
 
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Chibibar

Kitty Sinatra said:
Hey now. Living in a Monarchy is awesome. At least it was back when the Queen was young and beautiful.
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I think the guy I talk to about true Monarchy (close to dictator I guess) where one person rules all. Not by Parliament, House of Lords, senates, etc etc. Just one person in charge of all, and if that person doesn't do a good job, remove them. I did ask him how is that going to happen? most of the time removing a Monarch can be pretty bloody since he/she also control the military.
 
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Soliloquy

What gets me is how much these people wave around the constitution when it suits them, and then kind of forget that it exists when they go after anything else.
 
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Dr. Bertroche said:
I can micro-chip my dog so I can find it. Why can't I micro-chip an illegal?
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What an awful, inhuman thing to say. I fucking hate this guy and I didn't even know he existed 5 minutes ago.
 
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Dr. Bertroche said:
I can micro-chip my dog so I can find it. Why can't I micro-chip an illegal?
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What an awful, inhuman thing to say. I fucking hate this guy and I didn't even know he existed 5 minutes ago.
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I actually scrolled up to see who this Dr. Bertroche guy was...then I realized it was from the article. :laugh:
 
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Soliloquy said:
What gets me is how much these people wave around the constitution when it suits them, and then kind of forget that it exists when they go after anything else.
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And that's different than just about every other politician in existence how exactly?
 
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