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Sep 28, 2010#1

evilmike

The trailer has been released:

Sep 28, 2010#2

Dave

As much as I think it's a travesty that they are remaking a John Wayne movie...the cast and directors made me take notice. I was going to come in and ridicule this mercilessly, but I think it might be pretty good. Been a while since we've had a real honest-to-God western that was worth a shit. I think the last one was 3:10 to Yuma, which was another remake.

Last original GOOD western? Dunno.

Sep 28, 2010#3

sixpackshaker

Dave said:
As much as I think it's a travesty that they are remaking a John Wayne movie...the cast and directors made me take notice. I was going to come in and ridicule this mercilessly, but I think it might be pretty good. Been a while since we've had a real honest-to-God western that was worth a shit. I think the last one was 3:10 to Yuma, which was another remake.

Last original GOOD western? Dunno.

Silverado or Blazing Saddles.

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It looks nice. I don't have sound so I can't pass judgment yet. Jeff looks a little too hairy for a US Marshal though.

Sep 28, 2010#4

Dave

Do we really have to go back that far? I never saw the Assassination of the Outlaw Jesse James (and whatever the rest of the title is) so I don't know how good or bad it was. No Country for Old Men is actually categorized as a western.

Sep 28, 2010#5

sixpackshaker

I never understood why that film did not get a wide release. Probably the studios don't think Americans will sit still for a slow paced drama.

Sep 28, 2010#6

Espy

Drooling over here.

Sep 28, 2010#7

phil

Is tombstone a remake?

Otherwise back to the future 3 :smug:

Sep 28, 2010#8

Math242

Appaloosa was a pretty good movie

Sep 28, 2010#9

drawn_inward

I'm actually looking forward to this. I was upset someone was remaking a personal favorite. The trailer looks pretty damn great (except for Damon).

Some not so recent favs: Open Range, Deadwood, The Jack Bull, Lonesome Dove, Tombstone, Wyatt Earp, Unforgiven, The Searchers, Rooster Cogburn

All time fav = Stagecoach

I didn't really care for Appaloosa or 3:10 to Yuma.

Sep 28, 2010#10

sixpackshaker

phil said:
Is tombstone a remake?

Otherwise back to the future 3 :smug:

Not a remake per se, but the Gunfight at the OK Corral has been done on the order of 20 or so movies.

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and drawn, not many people will put Wyatt Earp down as a fav... I thought I was one of a few that liked it.

Sep 28, 2010#11

Adammon

Ah, the Coen brothers. An immediate 'skip' for me.

Sep 28, 2010#12

sixpackshaker

That should take some 'splainin' but I don't really care for an answer.

Sep 28, 2010#13

Krisken

Dave said:
As much as I think it's a travesty that they are remaking a John Wayne movie...the cast and directors made me take notice. I was going to come in and ridicule this mercilessly, but I think it might be pretty good. Been a while since we've had a real honest-to-God western that was worth a shit. I think the last one was 3:10 to Yuma, which was another remake.

Last original GOOD western? Dunno.

Unforgiven?

Not sure how i feel about this. They could have called it anything since it looks and feels so little like the original I think I am comfortable looking at it as not being a remake.

Sep 28, 2010#14

sixpackshaker

But now, 40 years later the Cohen Brothers can work from the novel more closely than the director could then.

Sep 28, 2010#15

Adammon

sixpackshaker said:
That should take some 'splainin' but I don't really care for an answer.

I've just never enjoyed any of their movies. I find them slow moving, pretentious art-for-the-sake-of-being-different. It's like reading King Lear. No one does it because they hope to be entertained by it, it's just well-written. I prefer to be entertained.

Sep 28, 2010#16

Espy

Fargo isn't entertaining?!?

The Hudsucker Proxy isn't entertaining?!?

O Brother, Where Art Thou? isn't entertaining?!?

I'm cool with people having different tastes but saying that no one watches a Coen brothers film to be entertained is just plain wrong son.

Sep 28, 2010#17

Adammon

Espy said:
Fargo isn't entertaining?!?

The Hudsucker Proxy isn't entertaining?!?

O Brother, Where Art Thou? isn't entertaining?!?

I'm cool with people having different tastes but saying that no one watches a Coen brothers film to be entertained is just plain wrong son.

I guess their humour is just so dry that I don't get it. I like my humour like I like my women, slippery!

Sep 28, 2010#18

Hailey Knight

Scud;440884][QUOTE=Dave said:
As much as I think it's a travesty that they are remaking a John Wayne movie...the cast and directors made me take notice. I was going to come in and ridicule this mercilessly, but I think it might be pretty good. Been a while since we've had a real honest-to-God western that was worth a shit. I think the last one was 3:10 to Yuma, which was another remake.

Last original GOOD western? Dunno.

Unforgiven?[/QUOTE]

That was going to be my suggestion.

Adammon prefers Meet the Spartans.

I was entertained by King Lear. None of Shakespeare's plays (to me, ignoring what professors say) were done to be literature in the centuries to come, they were made to entertain. Tastes have changed over time, but the stories are still strong, even if they're cliche. I'll readily admit crying at the end of King Lear in the James Earl Jones version I saw.

Sep 28, 2010#19

Adammon

escushion;441005][QUOTE=Scud;440884][QUOTE=Dave said:
As much as I think it's a travesty that they are remaking a John Wayne movie...the cast and directors made me take notice. I was going to come in and ridicule this mercilessly, but I think it might be pretty good. Been a while since we've had a real honest-to-God western that was worth a shit. I think the last one was 3:10 to Yuma, which was another remake.

Last original GOOD western? Dunno.

Unforgiven?[/QUOTE]

That was going to be my suggestion.

Adammon prefers Meet the Spartans.[/QUOTE]

Hur hur, it's fun to take things to extreme to make points, hur hur. I just don't get their humour or their notoriety.

Sep 28, 2010#20

Adammon

mr_thehun said:
well, what would you find a good comedy then?

do you like faulty towers, the flying circus, black adder, this hour has 22 minutes, the daily show?

No, yes, no, yes, yes.

Favourite comedies of all time: Airplane, Dr Strangelove, Arthur, Pink Panther (Sellers), Caddyshack, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, Shaun of the Dead, Royal Tenenbaums, etc.

Sep 28, 2010#21

PatrThom

I was going to say Blazing Saddles (which I have seen), but then I remembered Unforgiven (which I haven't). Both have already been mentioned. Good.

--Patrick

Sep 28, 2010#22

Hailey Knight

I gotta rent Unforgiven again. Damn good movie.

Sep 29, 2010#23

Philosopher B.

Never seen the John Wayne movie but this looks mighty interesting.

Sep 29, 2010#24

sixpackshaker

Philosopher B. said:
Never seen the John Wayne movie but this looks mighty interesting.

Hold off on the John Wayne one, and watch it after seeing this one. I want a fresh view at the 2 films.

Sep 29, 2010#25

wana10

good the bad and the weird was a lot of fun

Oct 1, 2010#26

fade

Huh. I loved the original. Big fan of westerns. You know which one I loved when I was a kid? High Plains Drifter. That's one creepy movie because of the supernatural element. And

the way they painted the town red and renamed it Hell to throw off the bad guys

.

Fun fact: My dad had a huge crush on the girl in the original and told me in great detail every time we watched it. She looked like a boy to me. Maybe my dad was trying to tell me something...

Oct 2, 2010#27

Null

fade said:
Huh. I loved the original. Big fan of westerns. You know which one I loved when I was a kid? High Plains Drifter. That's one creepy movie because of the supernatural element. And

the way they painted the town red and renamed it Hell to throw off the bad guys

.

Fun fact: My dad had a huge crush on the girl in the original and told me in great detail every time we watched it. She looked like a boy to me. Maybe my dad was trying to tell me something...

What's funny is that High Plains Drifter isn't supernatural, though it wants you to think that - Pale Rider /is/. And which girl, Verna Bloom or Marianna Hill? Neither of them appeared particularly boyish.

I like some Coen brothers films, but not others.

I thought 3:10 to Yuma was really enjoyable - taut and well acted, though I knew as soon as Alan Tudyk showed up that he'd wind up dead.

Oct 2, 2010#28

fade

I thought it was clear Eastwood's character died at the beginning. After all, no one seemed to recognize him.

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Even the wiki page calls it supernatural, and calls the Stranger an "embodiment of the spirit or reincarnation" of Marshall Duncan.

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In true grit, I'm talking about Kim Darby. Sorry, I switched back to True Grit. My fault.

Here she is, in all her boyish charm:

Oct 3, 2010#29

The Lovely Boehner

This movie had me at "Coen Brothers".

Also, Adammon, it's so weird you list Royal Tenenbaums as a favorite. It's much more dry than half the Coen Brothers, and definitely more "pretentious for the sake of being pretentious".

Oct 3, 2010#30

phil

It -does- have an Elliot smith song playing while someone tries to kill himself.

Oct 4, 2010#31

Adammon

Fine said:
This movie had me at "Coen Brothers".

Also, Adammon, it's so weird you list Royal Tenenbaums as a favorite. It's much more dry than half the Coen Brothers, and definitely more "pretentious for the sake of being pretentious".

I maintain that any movie with Ben Stiller cannot be pretentious, by definition. Plus Gene Hackman is awesome. (I wish he'd been cast in Shit my Dad Says instead of Will Shatner)

Oct 4, 2010#32

fade

I never really thought of Coen Brothers as being art for arts sake or pretentious. Sure, it doesn't hammer the point home (I mean you have to actually figure out the reason the Bounty Hunter has a Woody Woodpecker tattoo, but it's not rocket science).

Oct 4, 2010#33

evilmike

Full Trailer is up:

Oct 4, 2010#34

The Lovely Boehner

I saw that in theater and started rocking back and forth in my chair excitedly

Oct 4, 2010#35

Adammon

fade said:
I never really thought of Coen Brothers as being art for arts sake or pretentious. Sure, it doesn't hammer the point home (I mean you have to actually figure out the reason the Bounty Hunter has a Woody Woodpecker tattoo, but it's not rocket science).

Barton Fink?

Oct 4, 2010#36

sixpackshaker

Adammon;442153][QUOTE=fade said:
I never really thought of Coen Brothers as being art for arts sake or pretentious. Sure, it doesn't hammer the point home (I mean you have to actually figure out the reason the Bounty Hunter has a Woody Woodpecker tattoo, but it's not rocket science).

Barton Fink?[/QUOTE]

No, it was Hudsucker.

Oct 4, 2010#37

Adammon

sixpackshaker;442179][QUOTE=Adammon;442153][QUOTE=fade said:
I never really thought of Coen Brothers as being art for arts sake or pretentious. Sure, it doesn't hammer the point home (I mean you have to actually figure out the reason the Bounty Hunter has a Woody Woodpecker tattoo, but it's not rocket science).

Barton Fink?[/QUOTE]

No, it was Hudsucker.[/QUOTE]

No no, Barton Fink is pretty ostentatious.

Oct 4, 2010#38

Null

fade said:
I thought it was clear Eastwood's character died at the beginning. After all, no one seemed to recognize him.

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Even the wiki page calls it supernatural, and calls the Stranger an "embodiment of the spirit or reincarnation" of Marshall Duncan.

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Eastwood's character in High Plains Drifter wasn't the dead marshal. He was the dead marshal's brother, according to Eastwood (in an interview with James Lipton).

Oct 4, 2010#39

sixpackshaker

Adammon;442191][QUOTE=sixpackshaker;442179][QUOTE=Adammon;442153][QUOTE=fade said:
I never really thought of Coen Brothers as being art for arts sake or pretentious. Sure, it doesn't hammer the point home (I mean you have to actually figure out the reason the Bounty Hunter has a Woody Woodpecker tattoo, but it's not rocket science).

Barton Fink?[/QUOTE]

No, it was Hudsucker.[/QUOTE]

No no, Barton Fink is pretty ostentatious.[/QUOTE]

I thought you were guessing at the tattoo...

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