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The same video posted on reddit has generated a pretty interesting discussion on whether telling a lie or avoiding it when asked a question like this is "more moral" than speaking the truth. I thought it's an interesting point, but what there's no question in my mind about is that what makes public figures' consumption of any substance "scandalous" is 100% the media's fault.

What do you think? Paul's so dreamy in the video anyways.

He looks so different now.

Bieber should have said, "Where I was smoking it was legal. Deal with it."

Dave said:

Bieber should have said, "Where I was smoking it was legal. Deal with it."

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The question is more than legality, though. (And I thought he was in NY, is it legal there? I doubt the can justify medicinal). The whole "cut 4 bieber!" shit on twitter might have been a 4chan trolling more than anything, but A LOT of "beliebers" were APALLED at this behavior. Like what a musician does on his own time really affects his worth or talent. The problem is it *DOES* affect his career, but because the media makes it so. did you see the TMZ shit article with the photos, they added a really bad one of him laughing and captioned it something like "the giggles, bieber sure seems to find something a bit *too* funny"

Come the fuck on.

Yeah, the US has a weird duality to it that I don't quite understand. Weed is demonized while alcohol and cigarettes are romanticized and actively promoted. Look at the number of alcohol advertisements and you'll see what I mean. Yet alcohol is infinitely more dangerous to a person than weed, and smoking will fucking kill you if it's used properly.

You know what will happen if Bieber starts doing drugs? His music will improve.

Smoke away, kid. For all our sakes.

Calleja said:

The question is more than legality, though. (And I thought he was in NY, is it legal there? I doubt the can justify medicinal). The whole "cut 4 bieber!" shit on twitter might have been a 4chan trolling more than anything, but A LOT of "beliebers" were APALLED at this behavior. Like what a musician does on his own time really affects his worth or talent. The problem is it *DOES* affect his career, but because the media makes it so. did you see the TMZ shit article with the photos, they added a really bad one of him laughing and captioned it something like "the giggles, bieber sure seems to find something a bit *too* funny"

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It's not legal in NY, though there is a whole ton of public pressure to de-prioritize arrests for minor possession. The tubes make it sounds like he was in CA, so he better have had his medical card!

Yeah, all those weed arrests have hurt Willie's career.

sixpackshaker said:

Yeah, all those weed arrests have hurt Willie's career.

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Right, same demographic and standards applied to both performers. Good comment.[DOUBLEPOST=1357847161][/DOUBLEPOST]That McCartney video is awesome, though, it's the fucking 60s and he's already calling the media on their bullshit... of course, it took like 30 years until Anthology and then YouTube for you to see the video, the media didn't really want you to see it before that.

The interviewer can't do anything but ask the same question over and over again, like the answer "it's your responsibility for spreading it" wasn't enough. Ten times.

Actually Country Music is harsher to drug users than Pop. It was actually expected at one time...

Most teen celebrities that start off with the adorable, clean, sexy-but-not-slutty image have a hard transition to make to adulthood in terms of public appearance. If you don't throw off the clean-cut image of your youth, you will not make the leap. You lose the edge and the aging fans who no longer want to date a 16 year old.

But managing that change in public perception is difficult. I don't think that Lindsey Lohan did a good job, for instance, but she's still around which is better than can be said for many child and teen celebrities.

Justin's got a few rough years ahead of him, and you can be sure his agents and producers are working overtime to make sure some stuff leaks out, but not too much. It would be surprising if this was his first time, and that he did it accidentally in a place where it would be caught.

Still, it might be too early a reveal, and certainly a hard one with a steep cliff, so it may in fact be accidental.

He needs to follow Justin Timberlake and not Micheal Jackson...

It's 4:20 somewhere. Wait.

Basically, people have an image of someone, and they don't like it when that image is destroyed. If people see Justin Bieber as a wholesome, upstanding, nice young man, and then they see him smoking weed, it destroys the image and they feel betrayed.

It doesn't matter if weed is "better" etc etc than other substances; there's a stigma. I'm pretty open minded about things and I still associate the negative stigma of it too.

the correct answer was:

*blow weed smoke in face of whoever's asking*

Video not available here. Lovely

Anyway, teen fans of teen popstars have unrealistically romanticized views of their heroes: news at eleven. Britney was the clean and non-slutty pop queen at one point, too. So what? We want a generation whose teen idols never made one mistake or let anyone down? A teen idol caught for something minor like this is good education for later in life.

A politician whose career is made of being anti-drug, has a problem if he's caught with drugs. A teen pop star? No offense, but it's either going to be drinking, weed, heavier drugs, women, or weird furry pony fetishes. He's a teenager, he has more money and power over the people surrounding him than you ever will, he'll experiment. If his experiments at his age are "a joint", don't worry. He could be doing coke off a 16 year old girl's naked body, too.

Bubble181 said:

He could be doing coke off a 16 year old girl's naked body, too.

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Then he'd be cool like Led Zeppelin...

sixpackshaker said:

Then he'd be cool like Led Zeppelin...

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Better music and better entertainment, Zep really rocks

Bubble181 said:

Better music and better entertainment, Zep really rocks

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But they and their manager did terrible things to 16 year old girls.

sixpackshaker said:

But they and their manager did terrible things to 16 year old girls.

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And 16-year-old girls are doing terrible things to themselves over Bieber; the world has really made some progress.

Not saying Zep didn't do things that were totally wrong etc etc, for the record.

Bubble181 said:

And 16-year-old girls are doing terrible things to themselves over Bieber; the world has really made some progress.

Not saying Zep didn't do things that were totally wrong etc etc, for the record.

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you have this problem with your feet.

But Zep is still better music.

The_Khan said:

you have this problem with your feet.

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Yes, once again, they're getting quite chewy.