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What is a "Hipster"?

#1

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It was raining out the other day and per usual when it rains I wear my fedora, and got called a hipster by a gaggle of Reagan babies.

What the Finland is a hipster?


#2

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Upper-Middle-Class kid that acts like he's a Jazz musician.

That has been the definition for the last 60 years.


#3

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

There must be something new to it then, because there is no way a grumpy old man with a hat matches that description.


#4



kaykordeath



#5

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

  • Bow tie
  • Hat
  • Suspenders
  • Facial hair
  • Non government approved source of alcohol
That's a fair description I suppose.


#6



Jiarn



Defined.


#7

Gusto

Gusto

Timeline:



#8

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Hipster


#9

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

There are really only two things that define a Hipster: What they hate and when they start hating it.

Hipsters love things when they are indie and not well known, because they get a thrill off of being part of a small, tight-knit group of like minded people (who get to pretend they are better than others because of obscure knowledge). However, when and if such things become popular or mainstream, they lose their inherent value to hipsters because now it's not "theirs". It's something they now have to share with everyone. Once this happens, their love turns to resentment and one of two things happens.

- They leave the scene and look for something else to be exclusive about.

OR

- They stay in the scene, proclaim they liked it before these new guys came in and keep pretending they are better for it.

Hipsters can be from any walk of life because EVERYTHING starts out indie. For example, the following are hipsters:

- People who only like the Final Fantasy games before 7.
- People who make a point of saying they knew a band when they were still working empty bar rooms.
- People who hate the fact that Call of Duty/Halo/Mario/whatever is the only game some people play.
- People who only drink imported or locally brewed alcohol (and only the actually imported stuff, not stuff made in the US/Canada under a foreign label).
- People who hate people who've only seen the movie of a book, not read the book.
- People who watch foreign movies and then complain about American remakes. (I'm guilty of this one)
- People who only watched subtitled anime.
- People who wear ANYTHING ironically.
- People who only read comics from companies other than DC, Marvel, or Darkhorse. Doubly so if they only like Black and White ones.
- People who carry a lunchbox for a series that went off the air over five years ago AND are over the age of 10. Double points if it's tin or another metal.
- ANYONE who thinks their fandom makes them special or better than other people.

I'm sure just about everyone meets at least one of these examples... however, what TRULY makes you a hipster is to the degree to which you hate. If these things just bother you, but don't drive you crazy, your not a real hipster. However, people who define themselves by these things are.


#10

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Weird, neither Tin's nor Allen's definitions come close define me as a person, so I hereby declare that I am not a "Hipster".
Added at: 17:19
- People who only like the Final Fantasy games before 7.
Never played FF before, my wife loves it and I don't mind if people play it
- People who make a point of saying they knew a band when they were still working empty bar rooms.
I like celtic, baroque, blues and AC/DC and don't judge people by what they listen to (barring age appropriate lyrics)
- People who hate the fact that Call of Duty/Halo/Mario/whatever is the only game some people play.
You're free to like and play whatever game you want
- People who only drink imported or locally brewed alcohol (and only the actually imported stuff, not stuff made in the US/Canada under a foreign label).
I match alcohol to the food or setting that is appropriate, weighted by finances
- People who hate people who've only seen the movie of a book, not read the book.
This only bugs me when people present obvious historical significant mistakes in the moves as true facts
- People who watch foreign movies and then complain about American remakes. (I'm guilty of this one)
Watch what you want, like what you like
- People who only watched subtitled anime.
I really don't know what anime is.
- People who wear ANYTHING ironically.
This boggles me, I wear clothes based on situational functionality. If my t-shirt seems ironic, it isn't it's just old and I enjoy wearing it because it's comfortable for the current situation
- People who only read comics from companies other than DC, Marvel, or Darkhorse. Doubly so if they only like Black and White ones.
I like comic books and comic strips, don't care where they come from
- People who carry a lunchbox for a series that went off the air over five years ago AND are over the age of 10. Double points if it's tin or another metal.
I did have a TML metal lunchbox, but my daughter has it now. What's wrong with metal lunch boxes?
- ANYONE who thinks their fandom makes them special or better than other people..
Well I am a Leafs fan.


#11

Emrys

Emrys

Does that mean Halforumites are hipsters because we're on Halforum or is that now mainstream?


#12

MindDetective

MindDetective

I looked down on hipsters before it was cool.


#13



Jiarn

The kind of hipster that really gets to me are the ones that purposely go against the grain, especially during highly sensitive subjects. It's often times confused with "trolling" but the difference is a troll knows he's wrong and does it for the fun of it. The hipster does it and believes it whole-heart. Facts are usually all they care about, emotion/reason/common sense won't play into their arguments. Mostly due to their own detachment from everyday people and their self-imposed restrictions on social interaction.


#14

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I think being a grown man watching Anime makes you no longer hip.


#15

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Emrys said:
Does that mean Halforumites are hipsters because we're on Halforum or is that now mainstream?
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Given Gustos statement that people find halforums by googling "drunk slut confessions" I'd say we are mainstream now, so I suppose we could by the definitions proposed be viewed as hipsters to any one who is new to the forums.


#16

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

sixpackshaker said:
I think being a grown man watching Anime makes you no longer hip.
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:Leyla: Noooooooo, my street cred is gone!


#17

drifter

drifter

sixpackshaker said:
I think watching Anime makes you no longer hip.
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FTFY


#18

Covar

Covar

sixpackshaker said:
I think being a grown man watching Anime makes you no longer hip.
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wow, broad strokes much?


#19

figmentPez

figmentPez

Emrys said:
Does that mean Halforumites are hipsters because we're on Halforum or is that now mainstream?
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It's relative. To people not on Halforums we might be hipsters, but to some Halforumites you have to be able to say "I was on the Image Comics PvP Forum before it was Halfpixel, before it was Halforums." to be a forum hipster.

(and I was active on the usenet before forums were popular. AGLAMI!)


#20

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Covar said:
wow, broad strokes much?
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No, that is a pretty narrow category.


#21

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Pfft. I was a hipster before hipsters were cool.


#22

figmentPez

figmentPez

ThatNickGuy said:
Pfft. I was a hipster before hipsters were cool.
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So, you just became one today?


#23

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Exactly. I'm ahead of the curve.


#24

Covar

Covar

pfft, I remember when the curve was a flat line, before all you bandwagon jumpers got on ahead of it.


#25

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Pfft. Bandwagon jumpers.

I was jumping bandwagons in diapers.


#26

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
Pfft. Bandwagon jumpers.

I was jumping bandwagons in diapers.
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Sounds like your prom nite.


#27

Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

sixpackshaker said:
I think being a grown man watching Anime makes you no longer hip.
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What if you watch it ironically?


#28

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Chad Sexington said:
What if you watch it ironically?
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You can try.


#29

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

figmentPez said:
It's relative. To people not on Halforums we might be hipsters, but to some Halforumites you have to be able to say "I was on the Image Comics PvP Forum before it was Halfpixel, before it was Halforums." to be a forum hipster.

(and I was active on the usenet before forums were popular. AGLAMI!)
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Pfft. I was on the internet before the web browser. :p

(that doesn't really make us hipsters, just old.)


#30

linglingface

linglingface

One of my favorite videos! Wahaha.


#31

Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

The circle of (hipster) life:



#32

Dave

Dave

HCGLNS said:
Given Gustos statement that people find halforums by googling "drunk slut confessions" I'd say we are mainstream now, so I suppose we could by the definitions proposed be viewed as hipsters to any one who is new to the forums.
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I'll be damned.


#33

strawman

strawman

Dave said:
I'll be damned.
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Probably.

drunk slut confessions


#34



Overflight

Obligatory pic:



I am of the opinion that the word hipster means absolutely nothing anymore. People seem to use it to refer to people younger than 40 who wear clothes. And I’m sure even if they didn’t, that would be “so counterculture” and end up being hipster too.
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#35

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

HCGLNS said:
There must be something new to it then, because there is no way a grumpy old man with a hat matches that description.
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...maybe you look younger than you think?


#36

Gusto

Gusto

Allen who is Quiet said:
:Leyla: Noooooooo, my street cred is gone!
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But I've long defined you as my hipster weeaboo twin!


#37

Cajungal

Cajungal

Every hipster I've known has taken great pains to never appear openly enthusiastic about anything.


#38

Jay

Jay

HCGLNS said:
It was raining out the other day and per usual when it rains I wear my fedora, and got called a hipster by a gaggle of Reagan babies.

What the Finland is a hipster?
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https://www.halforums.com/members/the-lovely-boehner.247/


#39

Steve

Steve



#40

Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

I posted that video on the previous page.

THAT VIDEO IS SO OVER


#41

Vagabond

Vagabond



#42



Wasabi Poptart

I have a friend who loves obscure music and film, she dresses like she robbed a bag lady who was once a Lisa Loeb impersonator, fashions herself a food snob, and tries hard to be a subversive from the comfort of her own home. She hates hipsters. I laugh because she *is* one.


#43

LordRendar

LordRendar

I dont know why everyone bashes on hipsters. The Hipsters we have here in my town all seem pretty nice,always ready to share a table at a full bar.
And I must confess,im a little Hipster myself....


#44

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

the definition of a hipster is: someone that isn't you that you think you're better than


#45

Shakey

Shakey

Apparently if you live in Minnesota there's a good chance you're a hipster.


#46



Wasabi Poptart

I don't think I'm better than anyone. I think people who try too hard to be against anything mainstream and look down their noses at people who are "sheep" are laughable though.


#47

strawman

strawman

I'm both better than everyone and a sheep.

Where's your hierarchy now?!


#48



Wasabi Poptart

I think your logic is a bit fuzzy.


#49

strawman

strawman

Ha. So cute, still holding onto the relic that is logic.

I remember when I used logic too, before it went commercial.


#50

figmentPez

figmentPez

The Lovely Boehner said:
the definition of a hipster is: someone that isn't you that you think you're better than
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Bullshit. Hipster has just become a synonym for elitist, and that's not an unreasonable association given the etymology of hipster, "one who is hip". It used to be that a hipster was a modern jazz fan, and I imagine there are still a number of people around who fit that description and are easygoing about it, as would fit the musical style they follow. However, there's a much broader definition of the term "a person characterized by a particularly strong sense of alienation from most established social activities and relationships" or "a person who is familiar with or informed about the latest ideas, styles, developments, etc. especially with a casual or knowing air."

The extreme of those, when a hipster both knows what's cool, and is outside of what everyone else is doing, is elitism. "I'm better than everyone else because I know what's cool and the mainstream doesn't." Anyone who acts like this is a jerk, and I'm happy to call them out on it. If I somehow offend modern jazz fans in the process, maybe they should just throw on some vinyl, mellow out and become familiar with the latest developments in the English language.


#51

Jay

Jay

The Lovely Boehner said:
the definition of a hipster is: someone that isn't you that you think you're better than
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The hell?


#52

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The Village Voice blames hipsters for messing up the NYC census.


#53

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Yesterday, the True Finns party told that they would not take part in forming a government with the National Coalition and the Social Democrats, because these two parties were in support of the bailout for Portugal - something that the hard-liner True Finns, some of whom got elected, said they'd never support.

Why is this relevant?

Because when the news came out, a lot of the social media were going 'Yay!' over this, yours truly included. When asked about his opinion on such joy about their withdrawal into the opposition, party leader Timo Soini said - and I quote (translated from Finnish, of course):

"I don't care about the opinions of hipsters."
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#54

Null

Null

To me, a "hipster" is someone who is utterly consumed by the superficial - music, clothes, body art, etc - and judge quality mostly by the basis of exclusivity, or failing that, outright oddity. They consider obscure or strange to be the same as good, or wear and consume the deliberately tacky "ironically" - as if it's a show of sophistication. Ugly brand new vintage t-shirts referencing an obscure TV high school, and especially a sports team or marching band derived from it, knit caps for weather at least 30 degrees cooler than it well ever get locally, scarves in summer. It's a way of signaling, "I'm quirky, unique, and have eclectic tastes, just like everyone I know and want to associate with!" You can say the same about any sub-culture, except with hipsters, it really doesn't get any deeper than that. It's all about one-upping each other with obscurity or inanity done "ironically" - and naturally, they badly misuse the entire concept of irony. It's pure self-indulgence and very often, at least in the kids I see at the college, done with someone else's money.

To quote Dale Gribble: "They walk slow because there's nowhere they gotta be, man."

I think the other thing is, the only things they seem to enjoy, or get eager about, is tearing down others. Seriously, a hipster will talk about going to a party someone's throwing, and inviting them to, "ironically". I guess the thought process is that they're so cool, the party's lame, but that because they're attending a lame party disingenuously, as an inside joke, it's okay.

Fuckers.


#55

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I post here ironically


#56

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

That's one way of terming it


#57



Jiarn

So much to say, but it's just too easy.


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