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For me it's the Mario games. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy em from time to time but I really feel there is no-where else they can go with it. "What if we made Mario...3-D!" "We did, Super Mario 64""....fuck". If Nintendo gave this an ending they could work on making games that were actually original and brought something new to the table. Remember Pikmin? THAT WAS AWESOME!

Super Mario Galaxy was awesome and innovative. Sorry bout it, Mario's gonna be there for every new video game thing from now until infinity (except online gaming, lol)

3D Final Fantasy games.

Shegokigo said:

3D Final Fantasy games.

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Seconded.

Also I wouldn't say it needs to end, but Sonic could AT LEAST have a reboot. Anything to get rid of Silver the hedgehog. Worst character ever.

They did a 2D sequel. Sonic is redeemed.

Shegokigo said:

They did a 2D sequel. Sonic is redeemed.

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Meh, arright.

Metroid? I add the question mark cos I feel the series could go on, but it feels annoyingly repetitive. Begginning of game: Got my power-ups! 5-seconds later: I lost my power-ups! This would be all-right if this only happened once but there have been at least 8 games.

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Meh, arright.

Metroid? I add the question mark cos I feel the series could go on, but it feels annoyingly repetitive. Begginning of game: Got my power-ups! 5-seconds later: I lost my power-ups! This would be all-right if this only happened once but there have been at least 8 games.

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Welcome to Nintendo?

HAH! Rock on Quotemander.

Every fighting game with more than 3 sequels. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME! ADDING FREDDY KRUGAR DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING! When your series has a cross-over with DC-universe, you know your starved for ideas. Not to mention the horrible voice they got for the Joker.

Final Craptasy

Honorable mention to : Alone in the Dark

Jay said:

Final Craptasy

Honorable mention to : Alone in the Dark

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Oh yeaaaaaaaaaaah, that was game once wasn't it? Before my time I guess.

Final Fantasy shouls be put on trial for it's crimes. Not just for it's game, but for ALMOST EVERY RPG MADE AFTER BEING EXACTLY LIKE IT ! If I have to see one more Satan-damned angsty hero with a giant sword-I'MA BUSTA NUT!

Call. Of. Duty.

It's had a good run, but enough. Bleh.

Yes. Call of Duty. Modern Warfare. Halo etc

switch gears: The Simpsons. It's been ten years since they've put out a decent episode. Every time I try to watch a new one, just to see how it is, can't get through the first act without wanting to murder someone.

Also, it's about high-time The Office called it quits, about one Michael Scott ago.

Shegokigo said:

Yes. Call of Duty. Modern Warfare. Halo etc

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Yes, cos that's the only game my friends play. For the love of Satan, ONLINE IS NEVER FUN! They are mean!

ElJuski said:

switch gears: The Simpsons. It's been ten years since they've put out a decent episode. Every time I try to watch a new one, just to see how it is, can't get through the first act without wanting to murder someone.

Also, it's about high-time The Office called it quits, about one Michael Scott ago.

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Office for sure. Ed Helms is best as the funny secondary character, not the funny boss.

Your new name is Chester, Yoshimickster.

Yoshimickster said:

If I have to see one more Satan-damned angsty hero with a giant sword-I'MA BUSTA NUT!

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ElJuski said:

switch gears: The Simpsons. It's been ten years since they've put out a decent episode. Every time I try to watch a new one, just to see how it is, can't get through the first act without wanting to murder someone.

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This is what I point to when anyone says The Simpsons isn't good anymore. This part too.

Or to put it more simply, the real reasons people say The Simpsons isn't as good as it used to be is...

1.) You grew up and it didn't. It's still the same show, albeit with more exaggerated characterization.

2.) The things it parodied aren't around anymore. Family Sitcoms haven't been popular since Boy Meets World went off the air (with the exception of ones aimed at a Black audience). Oddly enough, this is probably why The Cleveland Show works; the thing it parodies is still on TV.

3.) Cable television and the Internet have divided the Pop Culture experience. Without a unified Pop Culture to reference, it's much harder to write hard hitting comedy because you don't know what your audience is watching. It's a moving target and has made the show much less relatable.

As for what series I want to die? How about the entire genre of realistic FPS games? At the very least, get rid of cover based shooters.

I disagree, while the new season seems to be doing alright for itself, I can always watch a lot of earlier season episodes and still really enjoy them but all you have to do is look at some of the incredible talent they had during their first decade on the air. The last decade or so of seasons were pretty damn dire.

No way is The Simpsons the same show as it used to be. I could think of a million examples, but there's a pretty big consensus on the internet that The Simpsons breaks up into the former and show, and Zombie Simpsons, which has been around 2000 +. If you want some real home-grown, point by point analysis, Dead Homer Society does a fantastic job of how atrocious that series has become.

None. If a game series still sells well and has people who enjoy it why should I care if they keep making more of them? I engage in the crazy and controversial practice of not playing games I don't enjoy.

Covar said:

None. If a game series still sells well and has people who enjoy it why should I care if they keep making more of them? I engage in the crazy and controversial practice of not playing games I don't enjoy.

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When game companies drop a large amount of development money on a sole franchise or type of game experience, they will not make the kind of game that you want to play, EVER.

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When game companies drop a large amount of development money on a sole franchise or type of game experience, they will not make the kind of game that you want to play, EVER.

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But plenty of people do make the kind of games I want to play.

Every single dating sim series EVER. This is a waste of the digital novel genre.

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....wha? Is the bird talking? This is confusing out of context.

Hatoful Boyfriend. You're welcome.

Shegokigo said:

Hatoful Boyfriend. You're welcome.

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Wow ....I am not sure what to think about this game. This is out there that's for sure.

Yoshimickster said:

HAH! Rock on Quotemander.

Every fighting game with more than 3 sequels. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME! ADDING FREDDY KRUGAR DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING! When your series has a cross-over with DC-universe, you know your starved for ideas. Not to mention the horrible voice they got for the Joker.

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I'd argue that the new Mortal Kombat game is one of the best fighting games to come out in years. Sure MK vs DC was pretty craptastic, but they totally redeemed themselves with the new game. Yes, Freddy is a DLC character, but unlike capcom, they don't make you buy a whole new game even if you don't want the new characters.

Also, it was the first fighting game to have a story mode that's worth playing.

Bowielee said:

Also, it was the first fighting game to have a story mode that's worth playing.

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A-*points up finger trying to argue* no comment. Wait are we talking the new game, or Mortal Kombat in general?

You indicated that the MK series is one that is no longer relevent citing MK vs DC and the inclusion of Freddy, which, yes, the series lost it's way pretty much from MK4 on. However, it has totally redeemed itself with MK9. The inclusion of Freddy was kind of gimmicky, but eh, it's something that's extra anyway.

Meh, arright. Another series I hope to die: any and all dragonball based fighting games. Not so much because of the controls, but because that it's marketing off a twenty year old series THAT HASN'T ANYTHING NEW!

The main platformer Mario games are all pretty solid, if anything Mario Party is the only one that's not been great. Metroid has nothing but good games save for Other M, which was developed by the guys who make Dead Or Alive, so it's not like anyone should have expected much.

Sonic doesn't need to die so much as stop adding all that weird storyline shit (were-hog, knights, etc) with extra fluff characters. Sonic Generations is the first great game in awhile, though I've heard Colors isn't bad.

Final Fantasy needs a reboot, not a cancellation. They need to look at solid titles like the Tales Of games to see how a more modern JRPG can still be outstanding without turning into Final Hallway XIII.

The only series I'd like to see stop for awhile is the wartime FPS stuff. Not so much for the style of game, but for the way they've changed gaming and the culture surrounding it.

CynicismKills said:

The only series I'd like to see stop for awhile is the wartime FPS stuff. Not so much for the style of game, but for the way they've changed gaming and the culture surrounding it.

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My thoughts exactly.

Ditto. Call of duty three....uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.

Any shooter that takes place during WWII - it doesn't matter the series - that whole genre needs to go down.

*crumples up WWII shooter concept art, throws into the trash*

Zappit said:

Any shooter that takes place during WWII - it doesn't matter the series - that whole genre needs to go down.

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What I find creepy is how you can play as the nazis in those games. It's only a matter of time before we hear the "You know while Hitler was evil, you gotta respect that he was a GENIUS military commander." We all know this person. And we are tired of talking to them.

I don't know a person that says Hitler was a genius military commander.

Although I've had a similar conversation about Lee, which, for what is worth, is actually a pretty interesting conversation.

where's my goddamn Civil War FPS? SHOOT *reload reload reload reload reload* SHOOT *get shot*

*amputate arm*

*poop until you die*

ElJuski said:

I don't know a person that says Hitler was a genius military commander.

Although I've had a similar conversation about Lee, which, for what is worth, is actually a pretty interesting conversation.

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...you have no idea how much I envy your life right now. I have had this conversation with THREE different people. Now Bizmarck, there was a ruler.

ElJuski said:

where's my goddamn Civil War FPS? SHOOT *reload reload reload reload reload* SHOOT *get shot*

*amputate arm*

*poop until you die*

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Oh it definitely exists.It's just friggin terrible from what I've heard.

Yoshimickster said:

What I find creepy is how you can play as the nazis in those games. It's only a matter of time before we hear the "You know while Hitler was evil, you gotta respect that he was a GENIUS military commander." We all know this person. And we are tired of talking to them.

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Charismatic? yes. Genius? no.

He DID know how to rally people.

that said, it is entirely possible to call a man smart, while acknowledging they are evil. It's only when those people try and revise history by saying they were smart...

see, General Lee, for instance. Principled, smart, man. Fucking racist.

See?

Certainly, Alexander the Great is a good example. He was one of the greatest tacticians in history, but he was also a conquering douchebag.

Resident Evil. It peaked at 2.

No way, 4 was fantastic.

Code Veronica was my favorite of the series...

Bowielee said:

Code Veronica was my favorite of the series...

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I have to agree. Code Veronica X was probably the high point of the "classic" style games.

ElJuski said:

No way, 4 was fantastic.

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Corollary: Other than the PC port.

Still hate it.

...the Oscars.

ElJuski said:

No way, 4 was fantastic.

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Four left behind the core story, the frights, and the puzzles. It was okay, but it didn't seem like RE.

I agree with Fade.

My favourite Resident Evil was actually 3.

Could never finish Code Veronica, and just didn't care about it after that.

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Four left behind the core story, the frights, and the puzzles. It was okay, but it didn't seem like RE.

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Doesn't make it any less of a Resident Evil title, but yeah, I get your point.

Not really sure I understand that. I mean, sure, it says RE on the box, and it has Leon in it, so technically, there's nothing I can say that does make it less of an RE title.

It's really a non-issue, don't know where I was going with that, don't really care.

I enjoyed features of RE 3 more than RE 2, but I never finished 3 and have finished 2 with both Leon and Claire. I haven't played Code Veronica though I do have a copy. I barely got past the third room in RE: Director's Cut. I have played the hell out of RE4 and still enjoy playing it. I don't know how to rate it as a "Resident Evil" game, but just as a game experience, I really enjoyed it.

WW2 FPS games have been done to death twice over. Final Fantasy could use a rest. Now, I really enjoyed X and XII - probably my favorite of the series - but I haven't heard great things about XIII, mostly that it's extremely linear and kind of boring, and the MMO installments haven't done too well either. I can't say that first hand, as I don't generally play MMOs.


Now, Final Fantasy Tactics on the other hand... well, I've only played the original. But it's still one of my favorite games. So more of that, yes please.

I thought RE4 was a great experience because they managed to preserve a lot of feel of the original games while making it eminently more playable, while starting a new (though slightly related) storyline.

I felt Dead-Rising should have died the moment New-Vegas came out. It felt soooooooooo pointless.

Dead Rising.... New Vegas? Huh?

I know you're not talking shit about Fallout... for your sake.

I think he was talking about the sequel to Dead Rising. Or he's talking about Dead Rising 2: Off the Record.

'Cuz no one would say something bad about Fallout 3 and New Vegas (aside from bugs).

Tress said:

I think he was talking about the sequel to Dead Rising. Or he's talking about Dead Rising 2: Off the Record.

'Cuz no one would say something bad about Fallout 3 and New Vegas (aside from bugs).

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A lot of hardcore Fallout fanboys seem to hate Fallout 3 actually. They claim the writing is subpar with the rest of the series, but as far as I can tell they just missed having the NCR in it.

Sorry, I thought the sequel to Dead Rising was called New Vegas, I forgot the name. Fall-out's an okay series from what I've seen.

Dead Rising's sequel is called

Brace yourself

Dead Rising 2

Slow down. Let me write that down.
*gets out pencil and paper*
Okay, can you spell that out for me? D.. E...?

checkeredhat said:

Slow down. Let me write that down.
*gets out pencil and paper*
Okay, can you spell that out for me? D.. E...?

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HUH! I thought it was one of those tacky sequels that didn't have a number attached to it. The scary thing is I've PLAYED this game. My memory sucks big time.

No, the Dead Rising: Off the Record thing was a re-imagining of Dead Rising 2, but with Frank as the lead instead of Chuck. It had an all new area, new survivors to rescue, some new bosses (including Chuck!), and an all new story. You can also have Chuck as your co-op buddy. It's quite a bit sillier and sort of feels like Frank made it all up to sell books.

AshburnerX said:

No, the Dead Rising: Off the Record thing was a re-imagining of Dead Rising 2, but with Frank as the lead instead of Chuck. It had an all new area, new survivors to rescue, some new bosses (including Chuck!), and an all new story. You can also have Chuck as your co-op buddy. It's quite a bit sillier and sort of feels like Frank made it all up to sell books.

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Wait...so was Dead-Rising 2 non-cannon? Cos you said "Off the Record" was a reimagining.I'm confused.

Yoshimickster said:

Wait...so was Dead-Rising 2 non-cannon? Cos you said "Off the Record" was a reimagining.I'm confused.

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It's a fair bet that Off the Record is non-canon, as it's mostly the same events as Dead Rising 2, but with Frank instead of Chuck as the main character, different people are innocent/guilty, and different people die. The main story goes off the deep end at the end (The boss is someone driving a giant robot in Uranus Zone). Dead Rising may be more silly than serious, but it's not THAT cartoony.

Right now the canon for Dead Rising is...

- Dead Rising (Outbreak in Willamette)
- Dead Rising 2: Case Zero (Outbreak in Las Vegas)
- Dead Rising 2 (Outbreak in Fortune City)
- Dead Rising 2: Case West (Chuck and Frank break into the Phenotrans facility to get evidence of the companies' malfeasance)

Dead Rising 3 has been announced as well. It's about an outbreak in Los Perdidos, California and stars Rick, an auto-mechanic. He's trying to restore a plane to escape before a bomb destroys the ruined city.

Weird. Megaman. This series should have stopped a looooooooooong time ago. I mean come on, ZX? Now your just tryin' to hard.

Final Fantasy.

I mean...how many sequals can you make to something that's "Final"

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Weird. Megaman. This series should have stopped a looooooooooong time ago. I mean come on, ZX? Now your just tryin' to hard.

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Actually, the fans DO want a definite ending for the original and X series, if only because it would put an end to the timeline and story speculation. The Zero series ended fine and leads into ZX. ZX clearly leads into Legends. But what we don't know is what happened to the original Megaman (we know that both Dr. Light and Wily died, but lived on as AI) and we haven't seen the end of the Maverick War.

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Final Fantasy.

I mean...how many sequals can you make to something that's "Final"

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The whole name is just some in-joke that stopped being funny years ago. Now its just an ironic name that every web-comic has made fun of.

Now, with Megaman X Light destroyed all original forms of Megman before hand right? So...did Light kill the original Megaman?

It was called Final Fantasy because Squaresoft was about to go under and the creators assumed the NES title was the last they'd make. Instead it became a huge success and they just kept using the title.

Also don't hold your breath on a new Mega Man. Capcom seems more content to troll the shit out of people instead of giving them a new title.

"Help us make Mega Man Legends!"
"Okay! Here's a shitload of input!"
"Fuck you that's not enough! CANCELLED"

"Fine you want Mega Man? HERE'S MEGA MAN"
(spoilers for a fighting game, if that matters)

Yoshimickster said:

Every single dating sim series EVER. This is a waste of the digital novel genre.

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Katawa Shoujo was here, and wants you to shut your whore mouth.

CynicismKills said:

It was called Final Fantasy because Squaresoft was about to go under and the creators assumed the NES title was the last they'd make. Instead it became a huge success and they just kept using the title.

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Indeed! Kinda like how DragonQuest still uses the name DragonQuest even though the quests in said games doesn't necessarily pertain to dragons.

Officer_Charon said:

Katawa Shoujo was here, and wants you to shut your whore mouth.

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dude. dude. dude. dude. dude. dude. dude.

play katawa crash

Allen who is Quiet said:

dude. dude. dude. dude. dude. dude. dude.

play katawa crash

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.... You ASS

checkeredhat said:

A lot of hardcore Fallout fanboys seem to hate Fallout 3 actually. They claim the writing is subpar with the rest of the series, but as far as I can tell they just missed having the NCR in it.

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I remember one old-school Fallout fan say Fallout 3 is more of an Elder Scrolls game, while New Vegas is more of a Fallout game.

bhamv3 said:

I remember one old-school Fallout fan say Fallout 3 is more of an Elder Scrolls game, while New Vegas is more of a Fallout game.

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Played through both, they feel pretty much exactly the same to me.
Never played through an Elder Scrolls game though. Tried Oblivion and did not enjoy it one bit.

Huh. I played Fallout 1 and loved it way back in like 98. Never played 2, but I thought 3 was awesome. In fact, at first, I thought it was just a remake of 1!

Yeah, in the 1st 10 minutes, with vague rememberences of a game that I played a decade earlier. I remember being rolling a vault-dweller who had to go out of the vault for some reason. A) Remakes don't have to be identical, and B) That'd be why "at first" was in there.

I never liked the first two Fallout games. Wasn't until 3 that I began to enjoy the series.

I never played the first two myself, but I've played through Fallout 3 and ever DLC for it, and freaking love that game. Played through New Vegas as well and loved it too, but haven't gotten through the DLC yet. Still on Dead Money.
So I can't speak for how similar or dissimilar to the original Fallout games it is, but I see Fallout fanyboys decrying Fallout 3 while slavering over New Vegas and I just don't get it.

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So, I think in a thread like this FF should just be an assumed.

Fallout 1 and 2 are fantastic, but you can't go back. They are products of their time and they will remain two of my favorite games of all time.

Hell, I went by Frank Horrigan on the internet for years.

I'd like to say Spyro the dragon, but I'm not sure if that counts since Spyro died a horrible death years ago. And was brought back to life in a horrible new form.

What you talking about? Skylanders has been getting decent reviews and the toys are flying off the shelves.

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What you talking about? Skylanders has been getting decent reviews and the toys are flying off the shelves.

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Because that's not a Spyro game. They just tacked Spryo on just for nostalgia factor. I ain't sayin' it's a bad game (albeit expensive) but I ain't buyin' it. Plus the fact that you "Don't need to play as Spyro" proves my point a smidge. They just added em in, because he was a famous name to begin wit. The first remake at least had some of the characters from the original series, this one doesn't have ANY of previous Spyro lore.

Seriously how much is a single toy, like 15 bones? That's basically a memory card.

I didn't realize Spyro was ever that popular.

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I didn't realize Spyro was ever that popular.

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What are you kiddin'? This was one of the most iconic Sony Platformer games out there! This was considered along with Crash Bandicoot to be Sony's mascot! And then Insomniac sold the license because Ted Price felt: "As a character, Spyro is kind of limited. Seeing as how he doesn't have hands, he can't do most things like hold a gun." THIS IS WHY THE RATCHET AND CLANK SERIES WAS MADE! Which ain't a bad series, but I'm still pissed at Ted.

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What are you kiddin'? This was one of the most iconic Sony Platformer games out there! This was considered along with Crash Bandicoot to be Sony's mascot! And then Insomniac sold the license because Ted Price felt: "As a character, Spyro is kind of limited. Seeing as how he doesn't have hands, he can't do most things like hold a gun." THIS IS WHY THE RATCHET AND CLANK SERIES WAS MADE! Which ain't a bad series, but I'm still pissed at Ted.

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I remember they made a big deal out of him at first, trying to make him another mascot alongside Crash Bandicoot, but I don't remember it ever catching on. Hell, I only know one person other than myself who has played any of the Spyro games, and I only played the first one.

I seriously thought he was just another failed attempt at marketing a mascot, like.... I don't know, Gex, or, VectorMan. OH! Or Tiny Tank (FUUUUUUUUUCK that game had the hardest boss battle ever)

He was most definitely NOT a failed mascot...just forgotten. Insomniac didn't know what they had so they sold it to Vivendi(formerly Universal Interactive) where they made shitty sequel after shitty sequel. Spyro Enter the Dragon Fly was one of the WORST sequels I've ever played. Most of the power ups were only useful in one level, and there was ONE only ONE boss-fight. And I'm not talking about Super Marios bros, now Bowser had different attack patterns in each level, this was ONLY one fight. And what sucks is that two other former bossess appeared in the game BUT THEY NEVER DID ANY-THING!

Huh, just looked him up on Wikipedia. I didn't know there was so many Spyro games, either.
I remember the first two, and then the next one I heard about (Also the last one I heard about) was Enter the Dragon Fly, the one you just mentioned.

I don't know how to explain it, I just didn't know.

checkeredhat said:

Huh, just looked him up on Wikipedia. I didn't know there was so many Spyro games, either.
I remember the first two, and then the next one I heard about (Also the last one I heard about) was Enter the Dragon Fly, the one you just mentioned.

I don't know how to explain it, I just didn't know.

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Sallright, not every series is for everyone. The first 3 Spyro games are like the Star Wars films. Silly, but great and incredibly memorable. And everything else was the equivialent of the prequel films. Messes with established cannon, doesn't hold up to the originals, all around BAD. I heard the remakes were at least okay but still.

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I seriously thought he was just another failed attempt at marketing a mascot, like.... I don't know, Gex, or, VectorMan. OH! Or Tiny Tank (FUUUUUUUUUCK that game had the hardest boss battle ever)

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Bonk

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Bonk

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Bubsy the Bobcat. I am glad that series died painfully. I can't believe that had a cartoon based on it.
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The only thing I remember about Spyro is that the first game's music gave me a serious migraine.

Heh, yeah I can see that. I loved it though. Felt weird and mysterious at times.

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Bonk

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I'd say Bonk succeeded as a mascott, it's just that the Turbo Grafix 16 failed as a console.

Talkin' failed game series, talk about Rayman....Raving Rabbid(see what I did there). I was so glad when this stupid series was over. They were so FREAKING annoying. They wer also a playable character in the Ninja Turtles brawl game. Whoever thought that was a good idea was out of their damn mind.

Left 4 Dead

Since it's a Valve game with two installments, it's already dead.

Basically. Though we're getting the full official release of Cold Stream soon and then they'll be picking the next mod campaign to make official.

Left 4 Dead 3 probably won't happen until after DotA has been out for a bit.

Every game series I don't play and enjoy.

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Every game series I don't play and enjoy.

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....well we might as well stop here. This is the ultimate "What series do you want to die post." It was a good run.

But seriously, Angry Birds. Mostly out of my INSANE jealousy that someone programmed a game so freaking simple and yet it's a damn cultural phenomena. The movie had a freakin' tie-in with Rio for cryin out loud! The original game wasn't that clever any-way, I remember plenty of games just like it as a kid.