You're nucking futs. The original comic series (not the comic that was based on the cartoon) was dark, bloody and freakin great.fade said:TMNT (original series)
I really thought the television show had a better, darker feel overall. The pilot was particularly good. I also preferred the more sophisticated way in which the mutagen worked in the show.
I know which one is the original. Liked the show better. Not saying the comic was bad, just liked the show better for various reasons.Shegokigo said:You're nucking futs. The original comic series (not the comic that was based on the cartoon) was dark, bloody and freakin great.fade said:TMNT (original series)
I really thought the television show had a better, darker feel overall. The pilot was particularly good. I also preferred the more sophisticated way in which the mutagen worked in the show.
Liking it better? Sure. Calling it "darker"? That's what I had issue with.fade said:I know which one is the original. Liked the show better. Not saying the comic was bad, just liked the show better for various reasons.
I freakin knew it!Shannow said:League of Extrodinary Gentlemen
Twilight
The Grinch
Wanted
Jumper
Beowulf
All of these are FANTASTIC!!!
Robert DeNiro's performance alone made it better.Dubyamn said:Stardust I hear even had Neil Gaiman saying it was better than the original.
I see what you did there.Shannow said:League of Extrodinary Gentlemen
Twilight
The Grinch
Wanted
Jumper
Beowulf
All of these are FANTASTIC!!!
You're fired.rabbitgod said:I hate to say it, but I thought LotR was better in movie form.
There are some parts where clearly the book is better, but as a whole I like the movie much better.
Even Dick praised the movie. He said that Scott reproduced his internal vision frighteningly well, and that even though the book and the movie diverge, he thinks they're complementary.Gill Kaiser said:Blade Runner.
*cracks knuckles*fade said:You're fired.rabbitgod said:I hate to say it, but I thought LotR was better in movie form.
There are some parts where clearly the book is better, but as a whole I like the movie much better.
Clean out your desk. Security will escort you out.
I'll whole-heartedly agree with this. Also with the bunny who liked the LOTR movies better than the books.Enresshou said:I'm going to catch hell for this, but V for Vendetta. I love everything else Alan Moore has done, but the comic just felt long and drawn-out to me. Yes, I know a lot of stuff was changed/adapted for the movie, but I preferred the movie to the comic.
Thank you.Simfers said:I'll whole-heartedly agree with this. Also with the bunny who liked the LOTR movies better than the books.Enresshou said:I'm going to catch hell for this, but V for Vendetta. I love everything else Alan Moore has done, but the comic just felt long and drawn-out to me. Yes, I know a lot of stuff was changed/adapted for the movie, but I preferred the movie to the comic.
Uhhh...the same overthetop stuff happens. There's just an extra chapter...which, really, isn't all that great in my opinion.ThatNickGuy said:I agree with Fight Club, except the ending. I know that even Paluhniuk prefers the movie ending, but I thought it was a bit too over the top and not as personal as the book's ending was.
From what I remember (been about 5 years since I last read it), the buildings and such didn't blow up, he shot himself and put himself in a coma. Then, his little foot soldiers said they'd keep on the fight in his name or something.ElJuski said:Uhhh...the same overthetop stuff happens. There's just an extra chapter...which, really, isn't all that great in my opinion.ThatNickGuy said:I agree with Fight Club, except the ending. I know that even Paluhniuk prefers the movie ending, but I thought it was a bit too over the top and not as personal as the book's ending was.
*throws coat over Rob* come on man, we gotta get you out of here before they eat you alive. Let's go go goRob King said:I thought the Watchmen movie was a more cohesive whole than the Watchmen graphic novel, what with the different ending and everything.
Oh god! Were those gunshots??ElJuski said:*throws coat over Rob* come on man, we gotta get you out of here before they eat you alive. Let's go go goRob King said:I thought the Watchmen movie was a more cohesive whole than the Watchmen graphic novel, what with the different ending and everything.
Quick, let's take [strike:142lvi0r]Shego's[/strike:142lvi0r] someone's conveniently placed van!ElJuski said:*throws coat over Rob* come on man, we gotta get you out of here before they eat you alive. Let's go go goRob King said:I thought the Watchmen movie was a more cohesive whole than the Watchmen graphic novel, what with the different ending and everything.
Are you crazy? The novel was much much better than the movie. Not that the movie was horrible, but there was so much more depth to the novel. There were so many huge chunks of the novel taken out for the movie, it changed the whole focus.MindDetective said:I would also add The Postman, which was not a very good book, in my opinion.
As far as I could tell, the movie only had two minor points in common with the book at all. It was an awful translation of the book, yes, but that wasn't the original question. The movie was better by many strides, I think.figmentPez said:Are you crazy? The novel was much much better than the movie. Not that the movie was horrible, but there was so much more depth to the novel. There were so many huge chunks of the novel taken out for the movie, it changed the whole focus.MindDetective said:I would also add The Postman, which was not a very good book, in my opinion.
It wouldn't really even make sense if they did, though, because "I, Robot" was a collection of multiple stories and had absolutely nothing to do with the plot of that celluloid travesty. I can't see how anyone could compare them.Calleja said:If anyone says "I, Robot", be prepared to be my nemesis.
[spoiler:2j8zwech]In the comic, the alien attack wasn't nearly as tied into the plot as the Manhattan-bombs were in the movie.fade said:Well I don't take offense. It was certainly more continuous with all the pirate parts and the Under the Hood excerpts removed. Outside of that though, it can't be too much more cohesive, since it's kind of a scene by scene transcription.
The problem is sometimes they do some amazing stuff with Iron Man, like Extremis (which would make a fucking awesome movie).HCGLNS said:The travesty that was the 1980's onward with Iron Man, makes the movie infinitely better.
And though this might disturb some, I find Charly better than Flowers for Algernon.
HIS SKIN IS HIS BRAIN!CynicismKills said:The problem is sometimes they do some amazing stuff with Iron Man, like Extremis (which would make a fucking awesome movie).HCGLNS said:The travesty that was the 1980's onward with Iron Man, makes the movie infinitely better.
And though this might disturb some, I find Charly better than Flowers for Algernon.
Then they go and do something like Ultimate Iron Man. :bush:
On that note, I'm surprised no one has said "The Iron Giant", which had only slightly more in common with the book. I'm exaggerating, but the book is very different.Gill Kaiser said:It wouldn't really even make sense if they did, though, because "I, Robot" was a collection of multiple stories and had absolutely nothing to do with the plot of that celluloid travesty. I can't see how anyone could compare them.Calleja said:If anyone says "I, Robot", be prepared to be my nemesis.
*cracks his knuckles* If I don't respond to this, I'm going to go mad.Rob King said:[spoiler:rdesxxsw]In the comic, the alien attack wasn't nearly as tied into the plot as the Manhattan-bombs were in the movie.fade said:Well I don't take offense. It was certainly more continuous with all the pirate parts and the Under the Hood excerpts removed. Outside of that though, it can't be too much more cohesive, since it's kind of a scene by scene transcription.
In the novel, Vedit had to invent that extra, new, out-of-nowhere element to be the outside force that he could unify earth against. He made an alien, but it could have been interplanetary nuclear bombs, meteor strikes, crab people, mole men, Captain Crunch, or any number of other things as easily as an alien.
In the movie, however, that outside force (Manhattan) was there from the beginning, unwittingly contributing to it, eventually being screwed over by it, and ultimately conspiring with it.
It just fit better into the whole story.[/spoiler:rdesxxsw]
I often don't agree with you; but this. Exactly this. Thank you. I miss the squid (but still really enjoyed the movie).ThatNickGuy said:*cracks his knuckles* If I don't respond to this, I'm going to go mad.Rob King said:[spoiler:2l6uyddd]In the comic, the alien attack wasn't nearly as tied into the plot as the Manhattan-bombs were in the movie.fade said:Well I don't take offense. It was certainly more continuous with all the pirate parts and the Under the Hood excerpts removed. Outside of that though, it can't be too much more cohesive, since it's kind of a scene by scene transcription.
In the novel, Vedit had to invent that extra, new, out-of-nowhere element to be the outside force that he could unify earth against. He made an alien, but it could have been interplanetary nuclear bombs, meteor strikes, crab people, mole men, Captain Crunch, or any number of other things as easily as an alien.
In the movie, however, that outside force (Manhattan) was there from the beginning, unwittingly contributing to it, eventually being screwed over by it, and ultimately conspiring with it.
It just fit better into the whole story.[/spoiler:2l6uyddd]
[spoiler:2l6uyddd]First of all, it wasn't a scene-by-scene transcription. For evidence of THAT, you've got Sin City, which is nearly a literal cut and paste job of the comic. However, there were huge chunks of dialogue removed from Watchmen, major plot changes, little changes that made other things make no sense (Laurie doesn't smoke, yet she still hits the flame thrower; a LOT of her fight for independence is removed).
The reason for the alien, rather than something home-brewed is because it's something that was so unfathomably out there that no one on Earth could even concieve it. They saw it as pure alien, therefore dangerous. Dr. Manhattan, on the other hand, was powerful, to be sure, but he was still human. And American. So, a giant threat like that, the blame would go to the U.S., not an unearthly source that the whole WORLD could unite against. Veidt had to create something that wasn't just a threat to the Earth, but something that we couldn't even percieve as something from Earth. So he created a giant fucking squid that caused people to die if they were in New York at the time and just looked at it. It send out brainwaves that drove people insane. That's near Lovecraftian threat, in the sense that you CAN'T understand it. And what's the best way to make someone fear something? By making it something that they don't understand. In Dr. Manhattan, they can somewhat understand him because he was human, he still looks relatively human.
The threat was tied into the book, but it was done nowhere near as blatant. You had the between-issues articles about missing artists, TV news reports about experimental teleportation devices, genetic experimentation (like Bubastis, who now serves NO purpose in the movie other than "Lookit the cool kitty!"). The reason that it's a fear of an outsider/intergalactic threat is that it's also regarding the Russians threatening to invade, which was a very clear threat back then and the propoganda made them out to be as foriegn as possible. Communism was an "alien" idea, one that Americans couldn't percieve, since they had the freedom to do whatever they wanted with their money. The whole idea behind Veidt's plan is that no one saw it coming, couldn't have possibly seen it coming and even the reader doesn't see it coming, unless they're paying close attention.[/spoiler:2l6uyddd]
Putrid garbage? That seems extreme. Yeah, see I don't often agree with you...ThatNickGuy said:I thought the movie was okay, at best. I do understand what they were trying to accomplish. And some of the things that they did get right from the comic, they got them REALLY right. Unfortunately, the things that they got wrong from the comic, they got them REALLY wrong.
As an adaptation, it was putrid garbage.
Then your hotdogs are not hardcore enough. Come eat with me sometime, I'll show you a motherfucking BBQ.Rob King said:I need heat to cook a hot-dog, but I settle on a campfire when I want to eat. I don't hang out around Los Almos waiting for testing to begin again.
Garbledina said:Then your hotdogs are not hardcore enough. Come eat with me sometime, I'll show you a motherfucking BBQ.Rob King said:I need heat to cook a hot-dog, but I settle on a campfire when I want to eat. I don't hang out around Los Almos waiting for testing to begin again.
Really? The Shining scared the hell out of me when I read it. The movie, not so much.Gryfter said:The Shining
Yeah this. Mind you, I love the movie too. But the book gets inside your head so well.WildSoul said:Really? The Shining scared the hell out of me when I read it. The movie, not so much.Gryfter said:The Shining
Despite the horrors depicted in it, I thought The Warriors was a really well-written, realistic feeling book, as well as a completely different beast from the movie with different goals. There's no denying that the movie is more of a fun romp, though.Dorko said:Ok, fairness time: I have not read the book I am about mention. But I have read ABOUT the major plot elements on wikipedia....and I gotta say:
The Warriors, which was so deeply altered so as to have completely new main characters and a VASTLY different set-up. But here are two big examples of what I mean:
[spoiler:2iyionsp]You know the love interest girl? Who defects from another gang? Yeah. The Dominators (the main characters) gang rape her and just leave her in the subway in the book. Also, the scene where Ajax (James Remar) aggressively hits on then kinda threatens to rape an undercover cop who arrests his ass? In the book that apparently three gang members. Who try to gang rape an older woman and get arrested for it. Also, none of the characters in the book are over the age of 18 which makes the repeated gang raping more troubling than it was.[/spoiler:2iyionsp]