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I'm not posting this as a popularity contest or anything. I just want to know. According to makare, this place is better off without me. If the majority rules, I'll go. No hard feelings. I'm not making it a poll either. If you hate my guts, grow a sack and speak up. If you want me around let me know. I personally don't want to be around if the majority of posters don't want me to be here, so bring it.

You already know how I feel. I like you better than the persona. You're going to do whatever you want, though, so there's really no reason to divide the forum into Pro Chaz and Con Chaz.

You want honest? Remember when you were called a cancer on the forums? That was an understatement. I don't know what personal problems led you to become what you have become, but you have issues beyond these forums. You are an embarrassment to Dave and everyone else here. You have cost us members. Mods. Potential webcomic artists took one look at this place when you were on full voice and ran like hell. You killed any hope of a reconciliation between this forum and Scott and Kris.

You are not someone I could call friend. You are not someone I even want to admit I know. Every time your name comes up it's "oh crap. What did he do THIS time?"

I hope for your sake none of what you've posted finds it's way to your superiors' desks. I cannot for the life of me reconcile your PhD. with your life on these boards. May the two never intersect.

You need help beyond what I can suggest, but at some point it's bound to spill beyond these boards. I sincerely hope you get that help before it does. If it hasn't already.

I'll be honest with you, Chaz, there was a time when I hated you and your little doggy, too. That, however, has passed after we had that talk a while ago and buried the proverbial hatchet. So no, I'm not of the opinion that you should go.

However, I would like to point out that even if you do not intend to abrasive, your comments can be easily construed as such. And let's be honest, this thing you and makare are having? It's clumsiness if you fall into a pit of pig crap, but stupidity if you decide to wallow in it. Be the bigger man and let it go. You're both adults, and you should both realize how disturbing it is to have the forum turn into a battlefield with constantly growing insults, mockings and outright dickery. And I'm saying this to both of you. If you can't stand each other, fine, ignore each other. Tune out the messages. Hell, I admit having fonder feelings towards the dust bunnies under my bed than towards one or two forumites, but hey, it's a big forum. Live and let live.

I don't think there's anyone here who would say 'no' to a spirited discussion about a topic two or more people in the forums are passionate about. If anything, that's when the forum is really at its most interesting. But you really have to know where to draw the line. I don't know where this fight between you and makare started, and truthfully I don't even want to know, but when two people can't meet without starting a fight, someone will eventually end up spending time in the cooler. And we hate doing that, we really do. But the rules must be upheld, and they must abide with every forumite. We can't and we mustn't play favourites or target somebody for personal grudges.

So no, I wouldn't like to see you go. You are a spirited man, Chaz ol' boy, and for the most part I enjoy reading your posts. But despite us being online, let's try and be civil about it, yes?

Krisken said:

You already know how I feel. I like you better than the persona. You're going to do whatever you want, though, so there's really no reason to divide the forum into Pro Chaz and Con Chaz.

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I'm on the Krisken train here.

DarkAudit said:

You want honest? Remember when you were called a cancer on the forums? That was an understatement. I don't know what personal problems led you to become what you have become, but you have issues beyond these forums. You are an embarrassment to Dave and everyone else here. You have cost us members. Mods. Potential webcomic artists took one look at this place when you were on full voice and ran like hell. You killed any hope of a reconciliation between this forum and Scott and Kris.

You are not someone I could call friend. You are not someone I even want to admit I know. Every time your name comes up it's "oh crap. What did he do THIS time?"

I hope for your sake none of what you've posted finds it's way to your superiors' desks. I cannot for the life of me reconcile your PhD. with your life on these boards. May the two never intersect.

You need help beyond what I can suggest, but at some point it's bound to spill beyond these boards. I sincerely hope you get that help before it does. If it hasn't already.

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Yeesh... I'm sorry that webcomics mean so much to you...

Buddy, I wasn't asking for an internet psychoanalysis ok? You're plenty weird yourself, but I'm not going to bring that up in full detail.

don't go, but do calm down.

Christ. It's either "man up" this and that or "waaaaa no one understand me, no one likes me"

Learn how grown ups act, or leave. No one gives a fuck. Either way you may want to take some time to get over yourself.

sixpackshaker said:

don't go, but do calm down.

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Well, that's what Kiff was all about before a shitwagon of internet brigade douchebags figured it out and went whining to Dave about it. Chazwozel is already labeled as trouble, as DarkAudit dutifully points out. No matter what I do, or how "nice" I post, someone's going to get butthurt.
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phil said:

Christ. It's either "man up" this and that or "waaaaa no one understand me, no one likes me"

Learn how grown ups act, or leave. No one gives a fuck. Either way you may want to take some time to get over yourself.

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^ Case in point.

My face when I think of the possibilities for this thread

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Bumble the Boy Wonder said:

My face when I think of the possibilities for this thread

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Believe me, me too.

You made an alt and were circumventing your ban. It was hardly dickish for people to point it out to Dave.

Chazwozel said:

Well, that's what Kiff was all about before a shitwagon of internet brigade douchebags figured it out and went whining to Dave about it. Chazwozel is already labeled as trouble, as DarkAudit dutifully points out. No matter what I do, or how "nice" I post, someone's going to get butthurt.

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Actually, that is not what happened.

Contrary to popular opinion, the mods do figure things out themselves as well.

Do not jump into conclusions. Sometimes it will lead you to strange and completely wrong places. Like cutting down an octogenarian with a katana.

Hey, that octogenarian may have been a zombie. Ever think of that?

Krisken said:

You made an alt and were circumventing your ban. It was hardly dickish for people to point it out to Dave.

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Dave knew about the alt. I told him about it. He agreed to me making it, and thought it was a good idea, until you boneheads all went crying over it. Some of the mods knew about it too. It wasn't to circumvent anything. I did it during the ban so people couldn't figure out it was me, since Chazwozel was effectively... banned. I could have given two shits about being banned for a month.

So yes, you guys were utter and total cocks.

No, we weren't, but whatever. Again, it's about what Chaz thinks and everyone who disagrees is shit of the world.

Chazwozel said:

Dave knew about the alt. I told him about it. He agreed to me making it, and thought it was a good idea, until you boneheads all went crying over it. It wasn't to circumvent anything. I did it during the ban so people couldn't figure out it was me, since Chazwozel was effectively... banned. I could have given two shits about being banned for a month.

So yes, you guys were utter and total cocks.

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Dude, seriously, stop digging a deeper hole for yourself.

Also, I'm locking this thread now. If you have gripes about your alt being banned when you were banned from the forums, write to us mods and Dave.